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January 01, 2020, 09:59:45 AM
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I suppose it's something to do with the idea of sitting in your cacks at home while doing it being appealing but it still strikes me as bizarre.
That is appealing though. I can post on the forum while lying in bed, while watching TV, while stirring a pot of chilli, while sitting in the car waiting for someone I'm picking up, etc.

Your point about the time/effort ratio is obviously spot on, and I earn a lot more from my regular job than I do from renting my signature and avatar, both in terms of absolute earnings and in terms of per unit time, but I can't do my regular job when I've otherwise got 10 or 20 minutes to spare like in my examples above. If it's a choice between killing time browsing Facebook or playing Candy Crush, or learning and discussing on here, I'd still be picking the latter even without a financial incentive.

I suppose the line is when you start dedicating 8 hours or more a day to participating in bounty campaigns. In those cases, a minimum wage job will generally pay significantly more than hours spent chasing worthless tokens. Get a physical job and you even get fit at the same time, rather than sitting hunched over a computer all day.

Newcomers are mostly being misled by their peers on believing that it's easy to earn here in the forum.
It is easy, though, if you are happy to work for peanuts. You can be accepted to YoBit or altcoin campaigns without even being able to formulate a coherent sentence. You can join bounty campaigns just by spamming Facebook shares and Twitter retweets. Minimal effort and zero brain power needed. Only time.
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January 01, 2020, 12:29:17 PM
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That is appealing though. I can post on the forum while lying in bed, while watching TV, while stirring a pot of chilli, while sitting in the car waiting for someone I'm picking up, etc.

I suppose the line is when you start dedicating 8 hours or more a day to participating in bounty campaigns.

I would hope it is the former for most people and it does indeed have plenty of appeal and very few people wouldn't do that given the chance.

In reality though I reckon the latter is much more likely. Maybe they have priced up what their labour could be sold for elsewhere and decided here is good enough but internet earning and Bitcoin earning seem to chuck that objectivity out the window in many a case.

Good luck to 'em all the same.
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January 01, 2020, 12:35:54 PM
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If theoretically, this forum will disappear one day, I will treat it as a great loss in my life. Visiting and reading in this forum everyday is already like a routine of my life. Aside from the fact that I am earning a lil bit of satoshis here weekly. This forum has vast information that it can offer for all levels of crypto users to any kind of crypto topic you can think of, that most of them can't be found on any other crypto sites. So I think a lot of people will be very sad if this situation happens.
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January 01, 2020, 12:55:06 PM
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Maybe they have priced up what their labour could be sold for elsewhere and decided here is good enough but internet earning and Bitcoin earning seem to chuck that objectivity out the window in many a case.
I've seen a couple of users mention in the past that they like earning these tokens, because although they know what they earn will only be worth a few cents (if they can even find a buyer), they hold on to the hope that one of them will exponentially grow. I suppose it's people who missed out on the early days of bitcoin, and seem to think that if you collect enough useless tokens at least one of them will turn in to "the next bitcoin", which is obviously not the case.

I've also pointed out that even with this line of reasoning, simply getting a job and buying these tokens will still result in much larger holdings, but as you say, objectivity goes out the window.
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January 01, 2020, 01:06:57 PM
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I am a scholar of Bitcointalk, it provides me what I need especially my tuition fees and my allowance. Its been already almost 2 years, since I started earning here, my account has so many memories, but the most precious thing was, this forum was able to help me to continue pursue my dreams.

I hope this can stay still until I graduated next 2021. Yes, only a year left then I'll be a professional human being, so I hope Bitcointalk can still help me for this last coming year. I am really greatful for this forum as well as to its users.
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January 01, 2020, 01:18:59 PM
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I've seen a couple of users mention in the past that they like earning these tokens, because although they know what they earn will only be worth a few cents (if they can even find a buyer), they hold on to the hope that one of them will exponentially grow. I suppose it's people who missed out on the early days of bitcoin, and seem to think that if you collect enough useless tokens at least one of them will turn in to "the next bitcoin", which is obviously not the case.

I've also pointed out that even with this line of reasoning, simply getting a job and buying these tokens will still result in much larger holdings, but as you say, objectivity goes out the window.

I can get behind that, but I would at least commit to a token that I could actually, like, sell.

Can't remember what campaign it was, it might have been Coinsbank, but one week paid 0.3 BTC when the price was in the depths of the toilet in 2015. Had you told me that for a brief period that week's 'labour' would be worth $6000 within less than three years I would at least have trimmed my pubes before posting those burger shots. And plucked my clinkers.
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January 01, 2020, 01:24:48 PM
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There's always, always been a weird disconnect with earning and the internet. For some reason people would do some mindless activity they'd refuse in the real world and they'd do it for a tenth of the money too. This isn't in any way unique to crypto either.

Human ignorance never fails to amuse me...

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That is appealing though. I can post on the forum while lying in bed, while watching TV, while stirring a pot of chilli, while sitting in the car waiting for someone I'm picking up, etc.

You can be a designer, a programmer and still work remotely from your bed ( if you are that kind of person Tongue ) and earn far greater than what any campaign would you pay you. E.g I can design a logo in 2-3 hours timeframe. I usually charge anywhere between $150-$250 for a standard logo. I could virtually do 1 logo a week and make the same amount as the person in chip mixer campaign. I will have far greater "Free time" than anybody who has to fill the quota of 50 posts a week. People are usually ignorant about how money can be made. I will repeat myself There are far better ways to make "Easy" money then typing comments on an Internet forum...

E.g Programming is essentially "googling" > Stack Overflow > Copy Paste, In a nutshell. These sig spammer/ plagiarisers can make a killing if they can figure out how to code...  Grin
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January 01, 2020, 08:01:49 PM
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What would happen if the forum vanished?
Not having much free time due to demanding work, I have never participated in signature campaigns, so the lack of the forum would not cause me less profit.

However…. however I try to write whenever possible, and this has led me to read (and intervene) practically every day over the years. So if the forum disappeared I would have a lot of free time  Grin but on the other hand I would be very sorry because this forum made me learn a lot.
Especially on two fronts:
1) I met completely positive people (less positive ones just ignore them)
2) in addition to improving knowledge on some crypto, from the forum I learned several other things, for example:
- use tools that I didn't use before and that have nothing to do with crypto: Slack but above all Discord
- discover interesting TG channels: e.g. Hacker news
- readings on some topics that I had never followed, for example (and you will see that it has nothing to do with crypto) the beautiful book "The Selfish Gene" by Richard Dawkins.

So ultimately if the forum faded I would be very sorry because I got a cultural enrichment that goes far beyond the crypto world.
But it won't die ...   Wink

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January 01, 2020, 08:14:59 PM
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I'd have so much more time without this forum Cheesy
At this time, I would for instance be sleeping because the kids wake up in a few hours. And yet, here I am.

We'd all get bored so fast without this forum... It's my excuse to get out of everything atm... I decided to go Christmas day without using the forum and that was hard enough. I don't even think I managed it either 😂.



If this forum went and there was nothing similar to replace it, most importantly, I'd have to turn to twitter, YouTube or some other social. Media and that would be awful... I've considered branching out but the community here is great... Even if you get a troll you can't work out if they're trolling or just condescending (for want of a better word) - where else do we get this sort of service.
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January 01, 2020, 09:28:43 PM
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I suppose it's something to do with the idea of sitting in your cacks at home while doing it being appealing but it still strikes me as bizarre.
That is appealing though. I can post on the forum while lying in bed, while watching TV, while stirring a pot of chilli, while sitting in the car waiting for someone I'm picking up, etc.

Your point about the time/effort ratio is obviously spot on, and I earn a lot more from my regular job than I do from renting my signature and avatar, both in terms of absolute earnings and in terms of per unit time, but I can't do my regular job when I've otherwise got 10 or 20 minutes to spare like in my examples above. If it's a choice between killing time browsing Facebook or playing Candy Crush, or learning and discussing on here, I'd still be picking the latter even without a financial incentive.

Yeah, the freedom of being able to do them whenever you want can't be overstated. It's what I like about being a mod as well. There's absolutely no expectation or requirement for you to handle x amount of reports or be online 9-5 or whatever hours are expected of you. If I wake up at 4AM and fancy doing some posts or reports I can do. If I want to spend most of my day doing something else I can do that also. I don't need to get time off to go on holiday and don't need to call in sick. If I want to sleep in or do nothing that day then I can.


Newcomers are mostly being misled by their peers on believing that it's easy to earn here in the forum.
It is easy, though, if you are happy to work for peanuts. You can be accepted to YoBit or altcoin campaigns without even being able to formulate a coherent sentence. You can join bounty campaigns just by spamming Facebook shares and Twitter retweets. Minimal effort and zero brain power needed. Only time.

It's fairly easy for people like us with high-ranking accounts but the earning opportunities for a newbie are not like they used to be. Back in the day anyone could sign up and start posting on campaigns like PrimeDice straight away. Now it is very very difficult to get an account ranked up to a decent member-ship level with earning potential and will take you years to achieve that, and that's not even including the merit requirements which for an average poster are going to be very difficult to achieve.

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There's always, always been a weird disconnect with earning and the internet. For some reason people would do some mindless activity they'd refuse in the real world and they'd do it for a tenth of the money too. This isn't in any way unique to crypto either.

Human ignorance never fails to amuse me...

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That is appealing though. I can post on the forum while lying in bed, while watching TV, while stirring a pot of chilli, while sitting in the car waiting for someone I'm picking up, etc.

You can be a designer, a programmer and still work remotely from your bed ( if you are that kind of person Tongue ) and earn far greater than what any campaign would you pay you. E.g I can design a logo in 2-3 hours timeframe. I usually charge anywhere between $150-$250 for a standard logo. I could virtually do 1 logo a week and make the same amount as the person in chip mixer campaign. I will have far greater "Free time" than anybody who has to fill the quota of 50 posts a week. People are usually ignorant about how money can be made. I will repeat myself There are far better ways to make "Easy" money then typing comments on an Internet forum...

E.g Programming is essentially "googling" > Stack Overflow > Copy Paste, In a nutshell. These sig spammer/ plagiarisers can make a killing if they can figure out how to code...  Grin

But you still need to be skilled in those things. I can't do any sort of designing or programming but it's fairly easy to post about whatever you fancy and all it requires is a bit of time effort and that's why its so appealing to many people. If people could earn decent money elsewhere then they likely would already be doing so, but for many they don't really have a choice or haven't discovered a better alternative yet.

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January 01, 2020, 09:47:00 PM
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This forum is as neccessary in the life of a Cryptocurrency enthusiast as oxygen is to the life of land dwelling creatures.
Personally not only would I be losing a good source of income, but I would also be losing a big source of entertainment and news, this is where I get to see the latest projects in the Cryptocurrency space and this is the forum where I get to meet other Cryptocurrency enthusiasts and discuss about things related to our shared interest.

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January 02, 2020, 09:49:08 AM
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I don't use any other social media platform to get the information about crypto market so if bitcointalk get vanished maybe I don't have access to any news other than the prices of cryptos,which might collapse my future crypto investment plans or I get up ended with investing on wrong coins.

And also I will be missing new gambling sites which uses crypto payment,any site which has good or bad will be exposed in their ANN and other sections but if forum vanishes people uses paid reviews to dump the growth of actual legit sites.
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This forum is as neccessary in the life of a Cryptocurrency enthusiast as oxygen is to the life of land dwelling creatures.
Personally not only would I be losing a good source of income, but I would also be losing a big source of entertainment and news, this is where I get to see the latest projects in the Cryptocurrency space and this is the forum where I get to meet other Cryptocurrency enthusiasts and discuss about things related to our shared interest.

As true as it may sound, there are other forums like this, who technically work the same, maybe some tweaks on the rules here and there but should provide the same services. But let's be honest, this forum is too good (I should say), it gives a lot of information, opportunities, etc. This has been the foundation actually, and that alone makes this forum stands out compared to others.

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January 02, 2020, 11:05:46 AM
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Honestly, I'm mostly a lurker here on the forum, but I've started getting more active recently since I appreciate the community spirit here on Bitcointalk.

Scrolling through the scam accusation and reputation threads shows me that people really look out for each other here, even if there are a few nefarious individuals that seek to disrupt the peace.

With that said, since I mostly lurk, Bitcointalk disappearing wouldn't have a huge effect on my life. But I do plan to get more involved, so I would be losing that.

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