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August 17, 2020, 02:47:33 AM
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I had an idea a few days ago. Shouldn't sent merit have some influence over recognition score?

It is a form of iteration between users. Maybe it could have some low weight in the recognition formulate. (less than earned merit ofc)

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 #362

I had an idea a few days ago. Shouldn't sent merit have some influence over recognition score?

It is a form of iteration between users. Maybe it could have some low weight in the recognition formulate. (less than earned merit ofc)

I would say no, because merit received is influenced by merit sent.

Also, assigning weights to the simple formula will makes the cries of manipulation louder.

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August 17, 2020, 09:52:47 AM
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Shouldn't sent merit have some influence over recognition score?
That would mean a higher Recognition score for Merit sources.

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It is a form of iteration between users.
So is received feedback (positive, neutral and negative). Even sent feedback makes a user more recognized, especially if they're on DT. And Trust list inclusions add to it too.

I wouldn't add any of these though.

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I agree that the formula should be as simple as possible being on the DT can be included into recognition score. For every period on DT you can get a little extra.

Maybe not so much being in DT but rather some sort of cumulative total of all inclusions and exclusions weighed by something or other (wanted to say merit but that might be wrong).

I'd probably do something like this if I had time, even if it's not part of the recognition score.

That would be nice as some extra stats.

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August 17, 2020, 05:42:00 PM
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I agree that the formula should be as simple as possible being on the DT can be included into recognition score. For every period on DT you can get a little extra.

Maybe not so much being in DT but rather some sort of cumulative total of all inclusions and exclusions weighed by something or other (wanted to say merit but that might be wrong).

I'd probably do something like this if I had time, even if it's not part of the recognition score.
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I just discovered a few typos (which are present on both mobile and desktop views) in the page named "General Information for Profile ID".

In order to reach the bug, you have to perform the following actions:

- launch the site on mobile or desktop
- search (and find) any valid profile
- read the information presented at the following sections of the page: "Registration Date", "Has given XXX merit to YYY profiles (ZZZ merit/profile)", "Has received AAA merit BBB times from CCC profiles" and "Posts XXXX (Rank YYYY)"

Result:
- there is no space after the ":" placed just after "Registration Date" - the section appears this way: "Registration Date:3/28/2018". For consistency and correctness, there should be a space after ":".
-there is an extra space between "(" and the number of merits in the "Has given XXX merit to YYY profiles" section - the section appears this way: "Has given 1982 merit 1503 times to 458 profiles ( 4.3 merit/profile)". For consistency and correctness, there should be no space after "(".
- there is an extra space before ")" in the "Posts XXXX" section - the section appears this way: "Posts 4906 (Rank 437 )". For consistency and correctness, there should be no before ")".
- the term "merit" should be changed with "merits" in the following two sections: "Has given XXX merit to YYY profiles" and "Has received AAA merit BBB times" - the sections appear this way: "Has given 1982 merit 1503 times, to 458 profiles (4.3 merit/profile)" / "Has received 1358 merit 870 times".

I hope this helps.

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So how many UID's did owlcatz end up trusting or distrusting?  The Trust Log conks out in the "M's" (the suspense is killing meRoll Eyes [1a], [1b]

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So how many UID's did owlcatz end up trusting or distrusting?  The Trust Log conks out in the "M's"
"TrustLog" needs an option for "next page" Smiley
I didn't check all, but most of them have negative feedback from JollyGood. This is just going to spam my Trust list viewer too, adding one new page per user per week for the rest of eternity  Shocked Undecided

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So how many UID's did owlcatz end up trusting or distrusting?  The Trust Log conks out in the "M's"
"TrustLog" needs an option for "next page" Smiley
I didn't check all, but most of them have negative feedback from JollyGood. This is just going to spam my Trust list viewer too, adding one new page per user per week for the rest of eternity  Shocked Undecided

Or collapse each user's entries unless you click on "more" when there are more than one entry in a 24 hour period.

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My apologies... But... Not really.... My list was long overdue for a major overhaul.

There were also other changes as well, if that makes anyone feel better Roll Eyes


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Does anyone know how will BPIP website and extension behave when new forum software is installed?
I started to test new software and I see many changes compared with this, and I think this will break BPIP.
It would not like to lose all the goodies so easy Smiley

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Does anyone know how will BPIP website and extension behave when new forum software is installed?
I started to test new software and I see many changes compared with this, and I think this will break BPIP.
It would not like to lose all the goodies so easy Smiley

When is the purported new forum software coming?

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When is the purported new forum software coming?
No idea, but they say majority of work is finished, now they are fixing bugs.

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Does anyone know how will BPIP website and extension behave when new forum software is installed?
I started to test new software and I see many changes compared with this, and I think this will break BPIP.
It would not like to lose all the goodies so easy Smiley

Impossible to say. EpochTalk doesn't even have features like merits or trust flags. Scraping the other stuff like users will depend on how it's set up. For example default settings allow showing the full user list but Bitcointalk has that feature disabled in SMF so if it gets also disabled in EpochTalk then we'd have an issue since there are no numeric sequential user IDs (or post IDs, or thread IDs), which we currently depend on for scraping.

Ideally the forum should have a basic API, which would make it easier for everyone, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Does anyone know how will BPIP website and extension behave when new forum software is installed?
I started to test new software and I see many changes compared with this, and I think this will break BPIP.
It would not like to lose all the goodies so easy Smiley

When is the purported new forum software coming?

I just gonna quote myself here :

Can't we just move to the new forum, instead of asking for new elements to be added on this old-forum? Its been so many years that the forum has been under development, so it only makes more sense.

Is there an ETA for when the new forum is to be fully out? I see the github commits on the discord bot, but other than that not much Sad

It's not that easy just to migrate to Epochtalk. ETA will be determine by the users, see the below quote. At the moment there are a few running forums with Epochtalk and one of them is supported by Cyrus team so if anyone want to join and help with bug hunting is very welcome here > https://coinbistro.com
If we don't do anything the project will never come to life.
In short: If you want the software quicker, go run your own forum with it, and work to get any problems or missing features you find resolved via bug reports, etc. This would increase public interest, provide much-needed testing, and I might even hire you to work on bitcointalk.org when we're ready to do the final transition here.

Even that I don't agree 100% with theymos on that, for me it will be easier to hire a proper QA and do the job for a month or two instead of dragging this project for years and years, I'm trying to help with it when I have time, like everyone should do.

@OP I get you idea but we have the most important sign, BTC it's enough for me. Let the other altcoin forums bang their heads in the wall on the new shtcoin signs.... Wink

Further questions regarding the New forum sotware are to be posted  here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=167.0
So we do not derail this topic.

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Is it possible to create a search filter on the website that can help Zero down to specific profiles using some of this parameters like;
- Number of received Merits,
- Number of Activity Points
- Date or Year of Registration
- Number of posts?

Like If I wanted to see profile that was registered in 2015, with 167 Merits and has 777 activity points. I would just feed in the data and get the results of profiles in that range.

It would be a good tool for bursting account sales and other investigations if it's implementable.

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Like If I wanted to see profile that was registered in 2015, with 167 Merits and has 777 activity points. I would just feed in the data and get the results of profiles in that range.
You can start at my Merit data, find the latest version, and manually check these users:
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   713. 167 Merit received by levyashin (#1023029) from 35 unique users in 39 transactions
   714. 167 Merit received by cryptomaniac_xxx (#2789889) from 49 unique users in 119 transactions
   715. 167 Merit received by cryptohunter (#92110) from 58 unique users in 89 transactions
   716. 167 Merit received by coins4commies (#1752004) from 17 unique users in 55 transactions
   717. 167 Merit received by aTriz (#135920) from 56 unique users in 64 transactions
   718. 167 Merit received by Lydian (#176461) from 52 unique users in 117 transactions
   759. 157 Merit received by vh (#690806) from 21 unique users in 51 transactions
   760. 157 Merit received by start the art (#162183) from 29 unique users in 39 transactions
   761. 157 Merit received by rare_designer (#2702851) from 18 unique users in 20 transactions
   762. 157 Merit received by chronicsky (#353680) from 23 unique users in 55 transactions
   763. 157 Merit received by Yury1 (#1056566) from 34 unique users in 38 transactions
   764. 157 Merit received by Ranyar (#1023316) from 89 unique users in 92 transactions
   765. 157 Merit received by MadZ (#174480) from 50 unique users in 87 transactions
   766. 157 Merit received by Hakamura (#1160086) from 62 unique users in 64 transactions
   767. 157 Merit received by Gyfts (#306998) from 30 unique users in 56 transactions
   768. 157 Merit received by 0x256 (#2680306) from 32 unique users in 102 transactions
  1551. 67 Merit received by todxx (#2023343) from 15 unique users in 19 transactions
  1552. 67 Merit received by mikhael (#255771) from 9 unique users in 9 transactions
  1553. 67 Merit received by chem96 (#1061308) from 21 unique users in 37 transactions
  1554. 67 Merit received by cheddur_announce (#1339582) from 9 unique users in 9 transactions
  1555. 67 Merit received by TraderTimm (#17398) from 16 unique users in 37 transactions
  1556. 67 Merit received by TheHas (#1115736) from 21 unique users in 30 transactions
  1557. 67 Merit received by Rodeo02 (#863277) from 19 unique users in 29 transactions
  1558. 67 Merit received by PancherBitCoin (#880986) from 7 unique users in 8 transactions
  1559. 67 Merit received by Nerobasta (#947624) from 5 unique users in 5 transactions
  1560. 67 Merit received by CoinClarity (#1092548) from 27 unique users in 44 transactions
  1561. 67 Merit received by 1369 (#206960) from 4 unique users in 6 transactions

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It would be a good tool for bursting account sales and other investigations if it's implementable.
I've searched for this several times, without results.
But even if you find a match, anyone can try to sell an account with 13587 Posts, 1946 Activity, 6823 Merit and green Trust. It doesn't prove anything.

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August 24, 2020, 02:31:53 PM
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Is it possible to create a search filter on the website that can help Zero down to specific profiles using some of this parameters like;
- Number of received Merits,
- Number of Activity Points
- Date or Year of Registration
- Number of posts?

I have some thoughts on that. It would likely be an API but technically creating a user-friendly search form on top of it wouldn't be too hard. But it's quite far down the TODO list.

Like If I wanted to see profile that was registered in 2015, with 167 Merits and has 777 activity points. I would just feed in the data and get the results of profiles in that range.

There are 67 users registered in 2015 with activity between 750-800 and most of them have 250+ merits with a few having ~100. Nobody close to 167.

It would be a good tool for bursting account sales and other investigations if it's implementable.

Might be this one: The Management

But even if you find a match, anyone can try to sell an account with 13587 Posts, 1946 Activity, 6823 Merit and green Trust. It doesn't prove anything.

Not finding a match might be better - it's a 100% scam then.
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August 24, 2020, 09:43:36 PM
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My apologies... But... Not really.... My list was long overdue for a major overhaul.

There were also other changes as well, if that makes anyone feel better Roll Eyes

How does adding multiple hundreds of UID's to your distrust list qualify as a "major overhaul"?

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Ideally the forum should have a basic API, which would make it easier for everyone, but I'm not holding my breath.

https://epochtalk.org/reference/api-reference.html#get-recent-messages
That is only per user, but they do have a framework.

As long as the forum displays the last update, you can always recursively parse any top level category as needed.

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