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Ito ay pagsasalin lamang. Upang mabasa ang orihinal na pinagkunan, pindutin lamang ang link na ito: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5169937


Dalawang uri ng spam:
(1) Spam na may walang kwentang mga post, ngunit naiiba sa mga nilalaman (bahagi ng mga ito ay plagiarized, o gumamit ng ilang mga template).
(2) Spam na may buong nilalamang post: tulad ng nangyari nung nakaraan
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Hi How to make money on the stock exchange Yobit
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Coins rise 200%+ or more

80 huge signals

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Paano ireport ang mga post na spam na iyon?
(1) Gamitin mo ang mga hakbang na ipinakita sa gabay na iyon (mula sa mga kawani ng forum)
Gumagawa sila ng mga post sa spam, ngunit walang dahilan upang ma-nuke ang mga ito kung gumawa sila ng spam post sa una o pangalawang beses. Ang ibig kong sabihin para sa mga kasong iyon, i-report mo ang kanilang mga post at ang pinakahuling dapat gawin ay tanggalin ang kanilang mga post.
May isang gabay dito (mula sa isang kawani ng forum):
[Guide] Reporting effectively
Dapat mong gamitin ang iyong oras upang basahin nang mabuti ang gabay na iyon.
Sa madaling salita, may ilang mga paraan/ tool upang matulungan kang gawin ito:
- Report to moderator button: Ang button na ito ay nasa kanang sulok sa ilalim ng bawat post.
- Patrol: This page help you to fastly have overview on real-time spam situation in the forum, on all boards.
- Report History
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Only users who have reported a certain number of reports have access to this page
- Modlog:
- Seclog:
- Mga checker sa plagiarism: Edubirdie.com;
Grammarly; Small SEO tools .
- Karagdagang tools (userscripts):
[HACK] One-click mod report, not for the faint of heart, na iminumungkahi ko sa iyo na gamitin para sa pag-rereport.
[Userscript] Report to moderator on post history
[Userscript] Bitcointalk Post Filter
[Guide]How to detect rule-breakers.Techniques and tips.

(2) Para sa mga kasong iyon. Ang pangunahing layunin na pag-report sa mga ito ay: ma-nuke ang kanilang mga account. Sa pamamagitan ng pag-nuke sa kanilang mga account, malinaw na hindi mo kailangang i-report ang lahat ng kanilang mga post na spam.
Halimbawa:
- Kung ang isang spam farm ay mayroong 100 account, ang bawat account ay nakagawa na ng 10 mga spam post (na may mga parehong nilalaman). Ang mga bagay na kailangan mong gawin ay ituro ang lahat ng 100 account na iyon, at ang kanilang post-template. Ito ay sapat na, at hindi mo na kailangang mag-ulat ng 100 x 10 = 1.000 mga post sa pag-farm na iyon.
Iminumungkahi ko ang report template:
Pangalan ng account, link sa profile
Halimbawa, sa account na iyon, maaari kang mag-report tulad nito:
Alinochka_bw_Py, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile ;u=2602925
Matapos ma-nuke ang account, dapat mong i-edit ang ulat na tulad nito. Ang paggawa nito ay upang ianunsyo sa mga kawani ng forum na ang nai-report na account ay na-nuke na.
Alinochka_bw_Py, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile ;u=2602925, Nuked!

Siyempre magagawa mo ito:
Alinochka_bw_Py.
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[url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2602925]Alinochka_bw_Py[/url].
Gayunpaman, ang paggawa nito ay nangangailangan ng oras, at sa palagay ko hindi dapat tayo gumugugol ng masyadong maraming oras para sa mga pag-report ng spam.

I-customize ang iyongpatrol page
I just discovered interesting things on patrol page, so I updated the thread today.

Now, let me presenting what I discovered.

Beside the standard patrol page, that most of us know, at: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent;patrol (1)
There is another 'hidden' patrol page, in which posts made in bounty threads disabled by default, at: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent;patrol;nobounty (2). I knew about that page by @suchmoon or @Vod, and originally it was disclosed in Russian board.

Generally
  • The (1) page is overwhelming spam posts, and there is no reason to find spam posts in bounty threads, with abundant proof of authentication or weekly report posts
  • The (2) page is more helpful, but by default, there are still so many posts over many boards

So, what users can do if they want to limit posts in their interest boards, such as Altcoin Discussions?
There is solution, but users have to manually customize their patrol page. Here is a guide, given by @o_e_l_e_o
Patrol isn't really hidden. You can make a link to it appear at the top of each page immediately above the link to your Watchlist by going to Profile - Forum Profile Information - and checking the box titled "Show patrol link".

What is hidden is that you can customize the patrol link to view other recent posts. Patrol shows the last 200 posts by newbie accounts. If you delete ";patrol" from the link, so you are left with https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent, you will see the last 100 posts by all accounts. You can also customize this by adding ";boards=x,y,z" on to the end, where x, y, z (and so on) are the boards you are interested in. For example:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent;boards=1 will show the last 100 posts in Bitcoin Discussion
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent;boards=7,8,57 will show the last 100 posts in Economics, Speculation and Trading Discussion.

You can also chain this together together with patrol, so for example:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent;boards=1;patrol will show all the posts by newbies on Bitcoin Discussion out of the last several hundred newbies posts. I'm not sure exactly how many recent newbie posts the forum keeps on file to populate this list from, but it's not a huge number (in the region of several hundred) I think, and since the vast majority of newbie posts are spamming the altcoin boards with bounty reports, then usually this will only show you a small handful of posts.
What users have to do (if they want to customize patrol page) are:
- Having a list of interest boards/ sub-boards and their identifying figures of those boards/sub-boards
- Bookmarking the customized patrol page: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent;boards=X
- Changing the X-value to their interest boards/ sub-boards at specific timepoints when they want to check spam posts.
Notes:
Users can includes multiple boards/ sub-boards in the customized patrol page
I listed a few boards/ sub-boards and their identifying numbers
  • Meta: 24
  • Bitcoin Discussion: 1
  • Altcoin Discussion: 67
  • Trading Discusion: 8
  • Gambling Discussion: 228

Maraming mga bagay ang mai-rereport, na maaari mong makita dito: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ. Sa ibaba, naglista ako ng mga pinaka-karaniwang bagay, na kung saan ang panuntunan #22 ay ang isa sa aking natutunan kamakailan lang.
1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. [1][e]

2. No off-topic posts.

13. Bumps, "updates" are limited to once per 24 hours.[2]

21. Old bumps should be deleted. [2]

22. Advertising (this includes mining pools, gambling services, exchanges, shops, etc.) in others threads' is no longer allowed, including, but not limited to, in altcoin announcement threads. [8]


Saan dapat mag-report?
Ang unang thread na dapat mong isipin kapag nais mong mag-report ng spam ito:
[CLUB] The SpamBusters! First anniversary! We made a change thank you Smiley

Mangyaring huwag kalimutan na sa anumang oras mula ngayon, maaari mong makuha ang iyong reporter badge
Seeking reporter badge images

Kamakailang mga paksa sa Yobit spam (hindi mo na kailangang gumawa ng bagong mga thread)
Spamming service massively. Please nuke!
Massive spam bot attack underway
Spam, abuse of multi accounts, account farming


Iba pang mga tool
Browser Addon That Helps You Ignore Spammy Comments
New options for patrol pages and ignore board preferences (profile page), please (Mayroong mga kapaki-pakinabang na bagay upang matulungan ang iyong report na mas mapadali)
Active users and top posters on Bitcointalk.org in the past 1 hour/ 24 hours/ 7 days (3 time-frame options) (ang page na ito ay sobrang makakatulong upang matignan ang newbie pataas na mga spammer.
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January 02, 2020, 03:44:22 PM
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Masyadong mahaba yung post. Sa tingin ko hindi din naman naintindihan nung nagsalin yung kanyang isinalin  Cheesy
Hindi naman siguro kailangan gamitin lahat ng mga tools nandyan sa post. Kailangan mo lang siguro malaman kung ano ang off-topic, spam advertisement, low value post, at yung mga necro-bumping kahit wala naman bagong dinagdag sa topic.

Tungkol naman sa tanong kung madalas gamitin ang "Report to moderator" button, narito ang aking stats sa ngayon
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You have reported 201 posts with 99% accuracy (198 good, 2 bad, 1 unhandled)
Konti pa lang yan kumpara sa mga iba dito, maraming mas masisipag mag-report kagaya ni rhomelmabini. Tignan niyo mga dating report records dito https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5148290.0

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Personal record ko:
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You have reported 1352 posts with 99% accuracy (1320 good, 17 bad, 15 unhandled)

Note lang para sa lahat: wag matatakot na madagdagan ang bilang ng bad reports. As long as hindi tayo nagrereport ng basta basta lang ng di napag isipan ng kahit konti, walang masama dito. As long as more than 90-95% siguro ang accuracy natin(or 80%+ pag sobrang taas ng bilang ng reports), enough proof na yan para makita na ok ang mga reports natin.
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Thanks @roseziojohn sa shout-out  Grin

Just an update this is my current reports count.
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You have reported 2301 posts with 100% accuracy (2272 good, 21 bad, 8 unhandled).

Sa nakaraan mga buwan medyo lie low kasi daming mga gawain sa personal na buhay. Bad or unhandled ang importante you make use of this feature para ipakita mo na may malasakit ka rin sa forum na hindi ito maging tahanan ng mga spammers. Just take note hindi lang spam ang pwedeng ireport pwede niyo ring ireport yung mga naliligaw na threads sa ibang board, minsan yan din yung mga nirereport ko as a sign of helping people na rin nga matuto sila kung saan dapat ito nababagay.
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January 03, 2020, 12:37:46 AM
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May ilan din akong mga naireport na post lalo na yung literal na spam posts at mga nag nnecro bump na posts. Pero medyo matagal na rin siguro yung last na report ng post ko dahil may full time job na ako at bilang na lang rin ang oras ko dito sa forum.

Ito naman ang summary ng sa akin.
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You have reported 98 posts with 98% accuracy (93 good, 2 bad, 3 unhandled). 
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Is there any way or a specific comment na need ilagay sa comment space before submitting a report. Usually, ang nailalagay kong comment ay 'One Liner', 'No contribution on the topic', 'Spamming' mostly ganon lang. Since hindi ako madalas tumambay sa mga boards that contains spam threads kaunti lang din yung report summary ko.

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You have reported 47 posts with 94% accuracy (44 good, 3 bad, 0 unhandled).
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Is there any way or a specific comment na need ilagay sa comment space before submitting a report. Usually, ang nailalagay kong comment ay 'One Liner', 'No contribution on the topic', 'Spamming' mostly ganon lang. Since hindi ako madalas tumambay sa mga boards that contains spam threads kaunti lang din yung report summary ko.

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You have reported 47 posts with 94% accuracy (44 good, 3 bad, 0 unhandled).

That will do. Usually nga ako "spam" or "off topic" nga lang eh. And mostly naman is obvious kung bakit nireport ang isang post at malalaman agad ng mod/admin ung rason ng report kahit hindi indicated. Kumbaga heads up lang ung report comment para kung hindi ganun ka obvious ung offense nung post.
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January 03, 2020, 03:14:28 AM
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Sa sobrang haba nung post parang nawala yung pinakpunto ng report to moderator button. Pwedeng isummarize na lang ang mga basehan sa pagreport sa:

  • spam
  • off-topic
  • plagiarized
  • necro-posting o ang pagpost sa napakaluma ng thread
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Is there any way or a specific comment na need ilagay sa comment space before submitting a report. Usually, ang nailalagay kong comment ay 'One Liner', 'No contribution on the topic', 'Spamming' mostly ganon lang. Since hindi ako madalas tumambay sa mga boards that contains spam threads kaunti lang din yung report summary ko.

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You have reported 47 posts with 94% accuracy (44 good, 3 bad, 0 unhandled).

That will do. Usually nga ako "spam" or "off topic" nga lang eh. And mostly naman is obvious kung bakit nireport ang isang post at malalaman agad ng mod/admin ung rason ng report kahit hindi indicated. Kumbaga heads up lang ung report comment para kung hindi ganun ka obvious ung offense nung post.

If obvious kasing spam, off topic, madaling makita, so madaling ma aksyonan, compared sa report na nag hahanap ng fault sa nirereport, kahit napakaliit, most of the time nilalagpasan ng moderator pag ganun...

Tips:

Plagiarism: report the said post  and include the post na kinopyahan, not the post na nireport in a thread na plagiarism yung post...

Spam/off topic: state kung bakit nasabi niyong off topic or spam yung post, stating a "phrase" from the post na sa tingin niyo mas matimbang ang pagiging spam/off topic niya sa thread...

You can also report threads na nag iinvite lang ng spammers or can lead para mag post ang poster ng kahit anong pwede itype kahit di na pag isipan...

Ref spams are obvious, reporting it like "spam" " ref " is enough...
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Is there any way or a specific comment na need ilagay sa comment space before submitting a report. Usually, ang nailalagay kong comment ay 'One Liner', 'No contribution on the topic', 'Spamming' mostly ganon lang.
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Case to case basis I guess. May na-report ako dati at mahaba yung explanation ko. Meron kasi iba na nag-spam ng parehong thread, yung tipong on topic parehong post pero wala ng dagdag na value. Ganito yung galawan, yung unang comment ay nasa first page at pangalawang comment ay nasa third page na pero parang first time pa lang niya mag-comment.

Pwede mo naman gamitin yung guide na nasa OP din kung gusto mo malinawan pa [Guide] Reporting effectively



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January 04, 2020, 02:23:33 AM
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I usually report threads na may topic na obviously trying to scam though of course, it is been proven na scammer sya in the past or reputed forum members had say so.

Sa sobrang haba nung post parang nawala yung pinakpunto ng report to moderator button. Pwedeng isummarize na lang ang mga basehan sa pagreport sa:

  • spam
  • off-topic
  • plagiarized
  • necro-posting o ang pagpost sa napakaluma ng thread
I agree but maybe OP want to be broad or specific what those spam post could look like.

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Anyway, I may sound ignorant but how or where can I see my report summary? I might overlooked it.
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January 04, 2020, 02:46:54 AM
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Anyway, I may sound ignorant but how or where can I see my report summary? I might overlooked it.
I had also missed the 'Your report history' link, but I've started to report spam from the Bitcoin Discussion topic 3 days ago (with nearly 0 report count that time). I haven't really paid attention for the number of the reports so close, so I can only guess that the magic number is somewhere around 300 reports, because today I'm over 300 and the 'Your report history' link has appeared. It's good to see which post were reported in vain...
Is this what you are looking for? Actually, most of the members who had at least 300 reports regardless of how good or bad it is can see their full report summary.
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I usually report threads na may topic na obviously trying to scam though of course, it is been proven na scammer sya in the past or reputed forum members had say so.

Sa sobrang haba nung post parang nawala yung pinakpunto ng report to moderator button. Pwedeng isummarize na lang ang mga basehan sa pagreport sa:

  • spam
  • off-topic
  • plagiarized
  • necro-posting o ang pagpost sa napakaluma ng thread
I agree but maybe OP want to be broad or specific what those spam post could look like.

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Anyway, I may sound ignorant but how or where can I see my report summary? I might overlooked it.

Try clicking the report to moderator button. You don't have to actually send it. Makikita mo doon yung summary mo.
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Try clicking the report to moderator button. You don't have to actually send it. Makikita mo doon yung summary mo.

I think he is not referring to the default report summary upon clicking the Report to moderator button. Maybe he is referring to a summary if your report has been handled and rated as good or bad.


This photo was taken by the original thread, just to serve as an example.
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Ako sa patrol natingin at nirereport ko kung sa tingin ko ay spam. Usually ni rereport ko ay yung mga necro bumping lalo na newbie o brand new account na mukang robot.  Smiley Or yung mga newbie account na talagang obvious na nag shill sa kanilang website para makakuha ng clicks o traffic galing sa forum.

Personal record ko:

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Use this function to inform the moderators and administrators of an abusive or wrongly posted message.
Please note that your email address will be revealed to the moderators if you use this.
 
You have reported 325 posts with 100% accuracy (322 good, 1 bad, 2 unhandled). Do not worry about your accuracy too much; one accurate report is worth many inaccurate reports.
 
Your report history

@Casdinyard - makikita mo lang ang mga na ireport mo kung makakapag report ka ng 300 good posts. Otherwise, hindi magiging visible sa yo ang "Your report history" link.



Edit: Marami ring newbie na ganito ang style: Don't get tricked by hidden spam on this forum.

At kung meron sa inyo makakahuli ng copy pasting/plagiarism member, pwede nyo ring i report to sa Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed.
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January 05, 2020, 03:07:40 AM
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Try clicking the report to moderator button. You don't have to actually send it. Makikita mo doon yung summary mo.

I think he is not referring to the default report summary upon clicking the Report to moderator button. Maybe he is referring to a summary if your report has been handled and rated as good or bad.


This photo was taken by the original thread, just to serve as an example.

Akala ko yung summary lang nung report mo kung ilan ang good, bad or unhandled. Summary pala nung mga reported posts at threads mo.

Nasagot na rin ni Baofeng sa baba na makikita mo lang yun depende sa number of reports.
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January 05, 2020, 04:28:26 AM
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sobrang Haba nakakahilo na basahin at halos hirap na maintindihan kabayan,but thanks anyway sa effort and sharing.

sakin kasi every report na ginagawa ko ay very specific,i make the full details on why i am reporting yong nasabing post at kung kinakailangan pati ang account mismo ay binabanggit ko sa report form ko.

though kadalasan mga non related post or mga generic text lang,lalo na yong mga nang ha hijack ng thread na nakakairita mabasa,tapos maglalagay pa ng Links considering na hijacker na nga sila?obvious na merong masamang intention sa kapwa ..


and also medyo off topic pero para sakin? dapat talaga lahat ng members ay makipag cooperate for doing this actions,lahat tayo dapat magtulungan para sa ikagaganda ng Forum at para sa makabuluhang discussion hindi lang sa local section kundi sa buong forum.
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January 05, 2020, 08:44:04 AM
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Ang tagal na nung huling post na nireport ko pero ito yung stats ko. Karamihan ng mga na i-report ko ay threads na hindi naka post sa tamang board, plagiarism at mga spam post na pang advertise marami nito dati sa Bitcoin Discussion. Para sa plagiarism ginagamit ko yung thread na ni link ni Baofeng. Nalilito kasi ako dun sa comment bar ng report to moderator.

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January 05, 2020, 09:13:04 AM
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Magandang tool to kung isa kang campaign manager dahil makikita mo lahat ng walang quality na post ng mga members. Pero para sakin di ko masyado ginagamit yung report functionality kasi ang alam ko merong bot ang bitcointalk moderators para sa ganung spammers at plagiarism.
Pero pag feeling ko na yung thread may masamang hangarin like pang hack or investment scheme dun na ako uma-action like commenting and giving awareness to other users. Mahirap nmang ireport kasi nag aassume palang ako at wala pang full proof.
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Is there any way or a specific comment na need ilagay sa comment space before submitting a report. Usually, ang nailalagay kong comment ay 'One Liner', 'No contribution on the topic', 'Spamming' mostly ganon lang. Since hindi ako madalas tumambay sa mga boards that contains spam threads kaunti lang
Basahin mo yung mga examples dito ni Welsh na pwede mong ilagay sa comment better na naka bookmark siya if in case gusto mong magreport madali mong mahanap yung thread.

di ko masyado ginagamit yung report functionality kasi ang alam ko merong bot ang bitcointalk moderators para sa ganung spammers at plagiarism.
Pero pag feeling ko na yung thread may masamang hangarin like pang hack or investment scheme dun na ako uma-action like commenting and giving awareness to other users. Mahirap nmang ireport kasi nag aassume palang ako at wala pang full proof.
Don't be afraid na gamitin if you think it needs to be reported kasi the mods will investigate naman yang report mo, if it needs basis or proof better to find one or you can make a thread about it.
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