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January 05, 2020, 07:05:16 PM
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Can ISIS resurrect after great fighter against ISIS, General Qasem Soleimani was assassinated?   I know one guy usually cant move hills, but he was capable man and was working hard to achieve ISIS demolish all over Iraq in last 10 years.
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January 05, 2020, 07:08:28 PM
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I'm having difficulty in understanding exactly what he has done in the past few years. Reports seem to be ambivalent. Here is a comment by Mahyar Tousi, who is a Persian living in England, and with family in Iran.

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January 05, 2020, 10:37:13 PM
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I'm having difficulty in understanding exactly what he has done in the past few years.

It is not hard to find that really. I got this as first hit on google. https://theintercept.com/2019/11/18/iran-isis-iraq-kurds/

Question is what is next. Does Iran have anyone to replace ​Soleimani in this fight. He was great organisers. Iran will definitively continue to fight, but how efficient they will be.
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January 05, 2020, 10:47:58 PM
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Can ISIS resurrect after great fighter against ISIS, General Qasem Soleimani was assassinated?   I know one guy usually cant move hills, but he was capable man and was working hard to achieve ISIS demolish all over Iraq in last 10 years.

was qasem soleimani really a fighter against isis? i am not sure we are dealing here with diverse financial systems,

isis had a monoplistic chaliph like a kingdom, while iran is a theistic republic,

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January 06, 2020, 08:52:36 AM
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Can ISIS resurrect after great fighter against ISIS, General Qasem Soleimani was assassinated?   I know one guy usually cant move hills, but he was capable man and was working hard to achieve ISIS demolish all over Iraq in last 10 years.
It was a grave mistake by the US to kill Qasem Soleimani now, he was in the hit list for a very long time from the late 70s and none of the president wanted to take a direct action and it is because of followers he have and he helped maintain a balance in my opinion as he was a capable leader who is loved by many and you can see the funeral possession which is attended by millions.

Question is what is next. Does Iran have anyone to replace ​Soleimani in this fight. He was great organisers. Iran will definitively continue to fight, but how efficient they will be.
Esmail Ghaani is appointed as the replacement and he even has a history in warfare but his skills to group everyone is to be seen.

was qasem soleimani really a fighter against isis? i am not sure we are dealing here with diverse financial systems,
Yes he was fighting against the ISIS with the help of Shia militia groups and he had the skills as a commander while his opinions are followed by Hezbollah and Kurd groups.

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January 06, 2020, 09:08:40 AM
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Can ISIS resurrect after great fighter against ISIS, General Qasem Soleimani was assassinated?   I know one guy usually cant move hills, but he was capable man and was working hard to achieve ISIS demolish all over Iraq in last 10 years.

I think that it can.
And possibly it will become stronger as it will sparkle a new hatred in their organizations due to the fact that they lost their leader. It is hard to eliminate them and by killing one person doesn't make any difference.
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January 06, 2020, 01:37:07 PM
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Can ISIS resurrect after great fighter against ISIS, General Qasem Soleimani was assassinated?   I know one guy usually cant move hills, but he was capable man and was working hard to achieve ISIS demolish all over Iraq in last 10 years.

I don't think so! The defeat of ISIS was mostly due to the collaborative efforts of coalition forces spearheaded by USA excluding that of Iran's militias headed by the late Soleimani and even without their help, I think ISIS was already doomed to collapse.
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January 07, 2020, 05:21:45 AM
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The US did virtually nothing to fight ISIS on the ground.  All we did was bomb the shit out of small Sunni towns to disrupt ISIS' revenue while displacing ~20% of the Syrian population.  Sure we did some raids on high-ranking officials, but all of the ground work was carried out by Kurds and Iran-backed mliitias.   Sunnis in the Iraqi military indirectly refused to fight ISIS which is why they overran their positions until Iran intervened.  

Most of what the US did was indirectly back ISIS by supporting antigovernment, ISIS-neutral Sunni rebels in Northern Syria.  This spread the Syrian army too thin to effectively fight ISIS in the midst of a stalemate in places like Aleppo.  I think people underestimate the long-term consequences of our actions.
 There are tens of millions of Syrians and Iraqis who now have a rightful claim to lifelong hatred of the US.  Much morso than what existed pre 9/11.
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January 08, 2020, 03:11:35 PM
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I don't think so! The defeat of ISIS was mostly due to the collaborative efforts of coalition forces spearheaded by USA excluding that of Iran's militias headed by the late Soleimani and even without their help, I think ISIS was already doomed to collapse.

But it did not collapse. My question is what will next few years bring. Can they resurrect to their previous power?
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January 08, 2020, 03:46:15 PM
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I don't think so! The defeat of ISIS was mostly due to the collaborative efforts of coalition forces spearheaded by USA excluding that of Iran's militias headed by the late Soleimani and even without their help, I think ISIS was already doomed to collapse.

But it did not collapse. My question is what will next few years bring. Can they resurrect to their previous power?

If Iran starts concentrating on US forces and attacks on the US allies then definitely ISIS will be resurrected. Who knows, Iran may secretly start supporting ISIS in order to hurt US allies in the region.

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January 08, 2020, 03:49:20 PM
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I don't think so! The defeat of ISIS was mostly due to the collaborative efforts of coalition forces spearheaded by USA excluding that of Iran's militias headed by the late Soleimani and even without their help, I think ISIS was already doomed to collapse.

But it did not collapse. My question is what will next few years bring. Can they resurrect to their previous power?

ISIS is not a new idea at all. It's an ideology that Sunni are the real muslims and they should rule all over the world. It started as Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad lead by Al-Zarqawi.
Even Osama Bin Laden was not a fan of their ideology.
ISIS is extremist part of Islam and most of the Islamic people are not if favor of them. There are just a few terrorist nation that funds ISIS and It would not be destroyed until these governments change.




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Gen sulemani was not fightining against ISIS but only againest enemies who are threatening Iran interest in the region. His death was not condemned by Sunni muslims in the region only Iran with his supporters.

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January 09, 2020, 12:43:16 AM
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The death of one man is irrelevant. It's not as if he had special magic powers and other who take his place are mere humans.
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