Poker talk - Specifically Hold'em - Hands and or strategy

[figmentofmyass]

If you had limped behind you might have been able to push them off with a kxx flop.  I have begun to call some limpers as opposed to raising them... especially in the series play.

the problem with limping is there are 3 more to act preflop. we're guaranteed at least 3 in the pot (if no one raises) and i may not be in position postflop. in terms of preflop equity a limp seems fine but the problem is the difficulty in playing it postflop with a small stack.

Is anyone going to review this hand?

AA vs KK......not much to be said. you both played it correctly.

there's a big element of chance involved in preflop all-ins. KK beats AA nearly 1 in 5 times. that's poker!

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[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Okay guys, here is a hand and how would you progress when you will have such hand?



In the pre-flop I gone with BB and then in the flop I think I gone with pot amount or called the guy khaleddj, really can not remember but in the turn what would you do?
I will tell mine after listening some of you although it's very much assumable �
However keep in mind that in poker you will have better hands always from the other guy.
I have the screenshot of the next turn and how we ended but let's hear all of you first 😀

[Globb0]

What is the threat? I suppose if he has 2 queens.

Check and let him try and push you off?

[webtricks]

Okay guys, here is a hand and how would you progress when you will have such hand?

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In the pre-flop I gone with BB and then in the flop I think I gone with pot amount or called the guy khaleddj, really can not remember but in the turn what would you do?
I will tell mine after listening some of you although it's very much assumable
However keep in mind that in poker you will have better hands always from the other guy.
I have the screenshot of the next turn and how we ended but let's hear all of you first

I see you are already very much into the game so it is do or die position for you. With Full House on turn, I will surely going 'all-in' on this hand. There are very less possibilities to lose from there. Let me count, if other guy is holding AA, KK, QQ, JJ, A10, K10 or 22, only then the other guy has a chance to win if river turns out to be one of A, K, J or 2. Else you are winning this hand. Possibility of that happening is 1 in 1611. Either you have won this hand, or SwC has the most rigged random generator or stars are absolutely not with you.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Either you have won this hand, or SwC has the most rigged random generator or stars are absolutely not with you.

I think I should wait for few more users to have their input in it.

Say other guy has a AA or KK or JJ, will he go ALL-IN in this situation?
How about having QQ for the other guy?

[Steamtyme]

the problem with limping is there are 3 more to act preflop. we're guaranteed at least 3 in the pot (if no one raises) and i may not be in position postflop. in terms of preflop equity a limp seems fine but the problem is the difficulty in playing it postflop with a small stack.

for sure. In these cases i'm really just paying for a flop. Kind of a delayed all-in. It really depends on how the villains proceed. If i connect with the board there is a good chance i'm jamming regardless.

I don't know if i'm going to continue to deviate from a push/fold here with limping. I have to give it some more time but it's also not a spot i run into often. I almost prefer being oop in these spots, if BB checks it looks fairly strong.

You are only losing to 1 combination at this point QQ. I would probably put them all-in here, the other option is call and see if they keep barreling the river.. If you lose to a 1 or 2 card outer with a KK AA holding so be it but you can't play a winning game and fold expecting that to happen. It would suck but sometimes it is just your turn to lose chips unfortunately.
Most likely they have the other T, overpair, or straight/draw, flush draw.

A good tell if they may have this pocket pair is did they 3-bet you pre-flop?? Not always but this can be a clue to their holding

[figmentofmyass]

Either you have won this hand, or SwC has the most rigged random generator or stars are absolutely not with you.

I think I should wait for few more users to have their input in it.

Say other guy has a AA or KK or JJ, will he go ALL-IN in this situation?
How about having QQ for the other guy?

at these chip stacks, the guy is pot committed either way.

even if he 3bet preflop (suggesting possible QQ) there's pretty much no way i'm getting away from this hand on that board at these stacks. second nut boat, no quads possibility, and you've already put in damn near your whole stack. this is one spot where i'm smooth calling the turn and getting the rest in on the river.

i'm assuming you're setting us up for an epic beat? QQ or JJ/KK/AA hitting a better full house on the river?

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

i'm assuming you're setting us up for an epic beat? QQ or JJ/KK/AA hitting a better full house on the river?

I must say you have a good analytical sense. FYI, my river always sucks, in vary rare case I get favor from the Poker God LOL

How many winning combinations the other guy can have?

AA and in the river: A
KK and in the river: K
QQ and in the river any card
JJ and in the river: J
Any card from hearts and he has two hears in his had

What else he can have?

A good tell if they may have this pocket pair is did they 3-bet you pre-flop?? Not always but this can be a clue to their holding

May be this will help.
As you can see he was the BB so
In the pre-flop I think I gone with BB, he checked
In the flop he rose and I doubled I guess. I did not want to go big, I wanted to milk others to maximize my return and then he called it
In the turn you can see he placed 300 chips and it was my turn...

May be this will help to understand his moves in the hand.

[Globb0]

Oh I see 1 more card to come. What a tease.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Oh I see 1 more card to come. What a tease.

[Globb0]

What does that mean? I don't get it

Why not just tell us, if you don't want the opinions you asked for?

[figmentofmyass]

i'm assuming you're setting us up for an epic beat? QQ or JJ/KK/AA hitting a better full house on the river?

I must say you have a good analytical sense. FYI, my river always sucks, in vary rare case I get favor from the Poker God LOL

How many winning combinations the other guy can have?

AA and in the river: A
KK and in the river: K
QQ and in the river any card
JJ and in the river: J
Any card from hearts and he has two hears in his had

What else he can have?

i guess there is a possibility he is semi-bluffing the heart flush draw, but obviously he's drawing dead since you have a boat.

he checked from the BB, so he could have anything going in. random ten combinations come to mind.

the bet-call on the flop and small bet on the turn (rather than shoving) suggests he could be holding a T. if he's holding KT or AT, i could see a potentially nasty river outcome here.

i'm still not folding.......

Why not just tell us, if you don't want the opinions you asked for?

it's better this way. posting the full results at the same time encourages "results-oriented" analysis. this way, we can run through the likely possibilities without being influenced by the actual hand result.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

i'm assuming you're setting us up for an epic beat? QQ or JJ/KK/AA hitting a better full house on the river?

I must say you have a good analytical sense. FYI, my river always sucks, in vary rare case I get favor from the Poker God LOL

How many winning combinations the other guy can have?

AA and in the river: A
KK and in the river: K
QQ and in the river any card
JJ and in the river: J
Any card from hearts and he has two hears in his had

What else he can have?

i guess there is a possibility he is semi-bluffing the heart flush draw, but obviously he's drawing dead since you have a boat.

he checked from the BB, so he could have anything going in. random ten combinations come to mind.

the bet-call on the flop and small bet on the turn (rather than shoving) suggests he could be holding a T. if he's holding KT or AT, i could see a potentially nasty river outcome here.

i'm still not folding.......

Why not just tell us, if you don't want the opinions you asked for?

it's better this way. posting the full results at the same time encourages "results-oriented" analysis. this way, we can run through the likely possibilities without being influenced by the actual hand result.

Globb0, patience brother, you ain't having fun here? 😀

@figmento, I am not going to say anything yet on your inputs to ensure that others are not getting biased from it. Let's wait for Steamtyme and webtricks to give their final inputs before I post the result. I hope you are cool till then?

What does that mean? I don't get it

Here  you go another one 😀



The first one was because you did not realize in the first place that the river was yet to come.

[Globb0]

You were a newbie once not so long ago.

Sorry if I offended you with my presence.

I only saw QQ as the risk, now I realise A 10 and so on thanks to FOMA

This is why I keep losing. Im not quite seeing it all

sorry bt

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

You were a newbie once not so long ago.

Sorry if I offended you with my presence.

I am still newbie man, not even 2 and half months that I am in poker. And you did not offend me brother. I took it easy as usual.

I only saw QQ as the risk, now I realise A 10 and so on thanks to FOMA

You mean an A10 in the other one's hand?
Yeah and in the river he will need another A
K10 and int he river K is another possibility for him to win too.

This is why I keep losing. Im not quite seeing it all

I play a lot of free rolls both in SwC and in sportsbet.io. Try them. More time means you will have more experience with the hands.

[webtricks]

Let me make up my final mind. Now thinking from the other guy's head. You said he was the one who raised to pot amount on flop. Considering only 2 10 and Q were dealt, he surely making pair from the flop cards. So he's either holding 2 or 10 or Q. If a player is holding QQ, 9 out of 10 times, player raises in preflop. So I am ruling out the possibility of QQ here. My guess is he's holding 22. River card was another 2. You lost QQTTT against 2222.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Let me make up my final mind. Now thinking from the other guy's head. You said he was the one who raised to pot amount on flop. Considering only 2 10 and Q were dealt, he surely making pair from the flop cards. So he's either holding 2 or 10 or Q. If a player is holding QQ, 9 out of 10 times, player raises in preflop. So I am ruling out the possibility of QQ here. My guess is he's holding 22. River card was another 2. You lost QQTTT against 2222.

Got yours and now let's wait for Steamtyme on his final thought before I post the result 😀

[Steamtyme]

Sorry I'm at work lol. Shouldn't wait on me to much. I assumed this was a loss as the bad beats are what you bring for our enjoyment lol.
Tough call on what they have especially given the game. Some of these guys will bet any T like it's the nuts. That wouldn't get you a loss, i like what webtricks thought about the 22. I still think depending on stakes they might not raise any pocket pair.
So i'll take JJ with a J on the river.... or the KK/AA lol. This is a big leak I had to overcome letting go of monsters in these spots.

And yes as mentioned before your hand should never be folding here.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Right let's end this drama now 😀



Honestly speaking, on the table I did not have any of these in mind:
2222
AAA
KKK (it was a K in the river by the way)
QQQ
JJJ
Or even a flash on hearts

In the flop I had 2 pairs and I doubled and in the turn when he chipped 300 I was happy to go ALL-IN without thinking much about those possibilities. I mean who would. He matched it and then card was shown and the river card was dealt.

I never had a 2nd thought of losing this hand from the flop round.

[johhnyUA]

A few words about my strategy: never limping, except cases where i would like to see flop and i'm SB or BB on table. Limping is in fact one of the worst things, if you're not a pro player but rather noob (like me).

Do not rise on tables where too much aggressive players. One of them will definitely re-raise and i will be on a hard choice: call or lose money.

Trying to not call "all in" in pre flop, even with good hands (like JJ or KK) because opponent can be lucky as hell, and will beat me with his set or something bigger.