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January 08, 2020, 08:09:45 PM
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I heard that Google Play Store has reinstated MetaMask and it is now available again.

To avoid issues with Google Play (and Apple) not approving crypto wallets and dapps, developers should consider providing a web based wallet and web3 browser for dapps which can be accessed from any device with an Internet connection without having to download anything to their device.

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I don't think this is about banks. It's not even so much about cryptocurrencies.

Google is much more threatened by decentralized apps like MetaMask and DTube than anything else. That's the primary takeaway for me. Google's entire model is to monetize the underlying internet infrastructure. Now, the infrastructure is being built to make Google obsolete.
It could help to remember bittorrent is one of the oldest and largest decentralized apps of all time. 30% of total internet bandwidth was credited as being bittorrent traffic in past years. I don't remember google ever waging a war against them.

The question to ask is: How do torrents threaten Google's business model, and to what extent?

Google's primary revenue stream is derived from search engine advertisement income (adsense). Which decentralized apps pose no threat to.

Years from now, that may not be true. Right now, consumers give away their (extremely profitable) personal data to Google in exchange for fast, reliable search results. Dapp browsers open up the possibility for blockchain-based competitors that allow for more equitable arrangements between advertisers and consumers. Eventually, you could even be paid tokenized ad revenue for viewing search results -- rather than Google pocketing that revenue. And you probably would if the search results were good enough, right?

Google created Chrome for the same reason. With Safari and Mozilla searches, Google needed to pay out a portion of ad revenue to third parties. Chrome allowed them to keep everything for themselves.

Dapp browsers do the exact opposite. They allow for a world that cuts Google out entirely -- and it can be done by incentivizing consumers with tokenized blockchain rewards. This logic can be applied to Google's other revenue sources like YouTube and the Play Store. These platforms become unattractive in a robust Dapp economy that better compensates end users for their patronage.

Granted, we are years away from this stuff coming to fruition, but I suspect both Google and Apple see the incoming threat. That's why I believe they are both removing Dapp browsers from their app stores.

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January 08, 2020, 10:17:32 PM
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I heard that Google Play Store has reinstated MetaMask and it is now available again.

To avoid issues with Google Play (and Apple) not approving crypto wallets and dapps, developers should consider providing a web based wallet and web3 browser for dapps which can be accessed from any device with an Internet connection without having to download anything to their device.


Or the users could simply download app from the developers' official website becase mobile browser currently lacking extension to install wallet and the only other way other than using app in mobile is through using exchange.
Google have some reason for not approving metamask and it's more likely that they are concerned about the security of that apps or maybe the developers is taking it down themselves.

 
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January 08, 2020, 11:50:31 PM
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BitCoinTalk.org Censorship goes way beyond anything Google has ever done  🤐🤐🤐🤐   This forum has Censored posts of mine that should have never been censored.  They have an interest in pumping up the price of Bitcoin and do their best to eliminate discussion that is a threat to this goal.    This forum started out with the right intentions, but has gone very corrupt.

If you value freedom, demand better. 

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January 09, 2020, 04:39:01 AM
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BitCoinTalk.org Censorship goes way beyond anything Google has ever done  🤐🤐🤐🤐   This forum has Censored posts of mine that should have never been censored.  They have an interest in pumping up the price of Bitcoin and do their best to eliminate discussion that is a threat to this goal.    This forum started out with the right intentions, but has gone very corrupt.

If you value freedom, demand better. 

Hard Facts

That's the nature of private platforms. As annoying as it is, you kind of have to accept it. If you are against this kind of censorship, maybe you should try going to SteemIt or something like that.




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January 09, 2020, 06:19:45 PM
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BitCoinTalk.org Censorship goes way beyond anything Google has ever done  🤐🤐🤐🤐   This forum has Censored posts of mine that should have never been censored.  They have an interest in pumping up the price of Bitcoin and do their best to eliminate discussion that is a threat to this goal.    This forum started out with the right intentions, but has gone very corrupt.

If you value freedom, demand better. 

Hard Facts

That's the nature of private platforms. As annoying as it is, you kind of have to accept it. If you are against this kind of censorship, maybe you should try going to SteemIt or something like that.

A personal blog could possibly a solution to create contents that you really want you, and only you could modify, add, and delete. Basically a forum could be a good way, but we have moderators here that make sure the contents we are posting aren't breaking any rules, so, aside from posting about a pump and dump of a cryptocurrency, we need to align our idea for the greater good, basically considering the utilitarian approach to help people make decision freely, and to deliver them with information that are useful.

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January 09, 2020, 07:07:48 PM
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I heard that Google Play Store has reinstated MetaMask and it is now available again.

To avoid issues with Google Play (and Apple) not approving crypto wallets and dapps, developers should consider providing a web based wallet and web3 browser for dapps which can be accessed from any device with an Internet connection without having to download anything to their device.



There's a little problem with that, because having the crypto wallet as an app is the only thing that sets it apart from all of the online wallets on the internet. It would open MetaMask up to getting hacked, which is not possible in its current state because it runs fully on the device. Also if the functionality for discovering all of the dapps were put in a website then it would feel clunky at best, since that would make it centralized.
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January 10, 2020, 04:25:59 AM
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BitCoinTalk.org Censorship goes way beyond anything Google has ever done  🤐🤐🤐🤐   This forum has Censored posts of mine that should have never been censored.  They have an interest in pumping up the price of Bitcoin and do their best to eliminate discussion that is a threat to this goal.    This forum started out with the right intentions, but has gone very corrupt.

If you value freedom, demand better. 

Hard Facts

That's the nature of private platforms. As annoying as it is, you kind of have to accept it. If you are against this kind of censorship, maybe you should try going to SteemIt or something like that.

A personal blog could possibly a solution to create contents that you really want you, and only you could modify, add, and delete. Basically a forum could be a good way, but we have moderators here that make sure the contents we are posting aren't breaking any rules, so, aside from posting about a pump and dump of a cryptocurrency, we need to align our idea for the greater good, basically considering the utilitarian approach to help people make decision freely, and to deliver them with information that are useful.

BitcoinTalk is relatively free, but they also have a lot of strict rules.

The only way to stop this kind of thing from happening but still achieve a wide user base is to go on any of the blockchain mediums. There's a few of them out there, like SteemIt. Minds, possibly. There's other alternatives. But really, you are going to really be trading out some benefits/cons for other benefits/cons since SteemIt has it's own set of problems (although I do think it's a decent platform overall).




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January 13, 2020, 11:19:11 PM
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Right now, consumers give away their (extremely profitable) personal data to Google in exchange for fast, reliable search results. Dapp browsers open up the possibility for blockchain-based competitors that allow for more equitable arrangements between advertisers and consumers. Eventually, you could even be paid tokenized ad revenue for viewing search results -- rather than Google pocketing that revenue. And you probably would if the search results were good enough, right?


Right now I'm using Brave browser which pays BAT (Basic Attention Token) revenue if end users have ads enabled. There definitely are emerging platforms utilizing crypto with the potential to compete with google for ad revenue.

The reason I question the idea of google opposing decentralized apps involves crypto not being necessary for this.

A tech startup could rollout a proprietary, centralized, app that pays users to view ads via paypal. A platform wouldn't need to be decentralized or utilize crypto / token based payment, to compete with google for advertisement based market share.

There are many platforms like: https://www.usertesting.com/

Which harvest user data without utilizing decentralization, blockchain or anything crypto related. One could make the argument that any token based, decentralized, ad competitor to google could do the same job utilizing fiat based payment networks.

There's no real motive in google targeting decentralized apps as all of them could be monetized using apple pay, paypal and other 3rd party apps.

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A personal blog could possibly a solution to create contents that you really want you, and only you could modify, add, and delete. Basically a forum could be a good way, but we have moderators here that make sure the contents we are posting aren't breaking any rules, so, aside from posting about a pump and dump of a cryptocurrency, we need to align our idea for the greater good, basically considering the utilitarian approach to help people make decision freely, and to deliver them with information that are useful.
You are absolutely right about the words about the Supreme Good.  After all, what the owner of a personal blog can write may not be allowed at the forum with great activity, where Everyone has the right to print information and Everyone has the right to use this information, because in this case the administration monitors risks and general mood.  A lot of cryptocurrency users inadequately respond to this or that information, which is very often used as manipulations by cryptocurrency users.  I understand that the bitcointalk forum is designed to popularize cryptocurrency in society and to improve the knowledge of cryptocurrency among users and therefore Moderators very often delete negative information so as not to mislead users of the forum.

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Right now, consumers give away their (extremely profitable) personal data to Google in exchange for fast, reliable search results. Dapp browsers open up the possibility for blockchain-based competitors that allow for more equitable arrangements between advertisers and consumers. Eventually, you could even be paid tokenized ad revenue for viewing search results -- rather than Google pocketing that revenue. And you probably would if the search results were good enough, right?


Right now I'm using Brave browser which pays BAT (Basic Attention Token) revenue if end users have ads enabled. There definitely are emerging platforms utilizing crypto with the potential to compete with google for ad revenue.

The reason I question the idea of google opposing decentralized apps involves crypto not being necessary for this.

A tech startup could rollout a proprietary, centralized, app that pays users to view ads via paypal. A platform wouldn't need to be decentralized or utilize crypto / token based payment, to compete with google for advertisement based market share.

There are many platforms like: https://www.usertesting.com/

Which harvest user data without utilizing decentralization, blockchain or anything crypto related. One could make the argument that any token based, decentralized, ad competitor to google could do the same job utilizing fiat based payment networks.

There's no real motive in google targeting decentralized apps as all of them could be monetized using apple pay, paypal and other 3rd party apps.

Hard to convince anyone to use different browser or even another search engine like Duckduckgo when they are so used to google. I myself have been using the brave browser for a longtime but since I have my gmail registered to my accounts that had been there long before I discover what google is doing, I'm still using my gmail. Its a slow transition I guess until we can kill the monopoly of Google.


 
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January 16, 2020, 04:38:29 AM
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Right now, consumers give away their (extremely profitable) personal data to Google in exchange for fast, reliable search results. Dapp browsers open up the possibility for blockchain-based competitors that allow for more equitable arrangements between advertisers and consumers. Eventually, you could even be paid tokenized ad revenue for viewing search results -- rather than Google pocketing that revenue. And you probably would if the search results were good enough, right?


Right now I'm using Brave browser which pays BAT (Basic Attention Token) revenue if end users have ads enabled. There definitely are emerging platforms utilizing crypto with the potential to compete with google for ad revenue.

The reason I question the idea of google opposing decentralized apps involves crypto not being necessary for this.

A tech startup could rollout a proprietary, centralized, app that pays users to view ads via paypal. A platform wouldn't need to be decentralized or utilize crypto / token based payment, to compete with google for advertisement based market share.

There are many platforms like: https://www.usertesting.com/

Which harvest user data without utilizing decentralization, blockchain or anything crypto related. One could make the argument that any token based, decentralized, ad competitor to google could do the same job utilizing fiat based payment networks.

There's no real motive in google targeting decentralized apps as all of them could be monetized using apple pay, paypal and other 3rd party apps.

Hard to convince anyone to use different browser or even another search engine like Duckduckgo when they are so used to google. I myself have been using the brave browser for a longtime but since I have my gmail registered to my accounts that had been there long before I discover what google is doing, I'm still using my gmail. Its a slow transition I guess until we can kill the monopoly of Google.



On a personal level, I had switched tons of things over around 5 years ago and my last thing to switch was my e-mail address from a corporate overlord to a better provider. I left it for last because part of me never wanted to switch because I thought it would take too long and not be worth it because of all the legacy accounts I had tied to the e-mail address.

But honestly, despite having 100s of accounts, I was able to migrate them all in about 10-20 hours of work and couldn't be happier to this day about it. My only regret is not having done it sooner.

So if that's any encouragement, I'd say go for it. And it's always better now than later. The longer you wait, the even more entrenched it becomes, not the reverse.




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