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August 20, 2014, 11:49:57 PM
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You forgot the PSU costs. Everyone always forgets the PSU cost. The S3 does not cost $305, it costs at least $350.

Only if you're setting up a single S3. If you doing any sort of farm, you're going to use server power supplies which cost maybe $10 per S3.
Got any examples?  This seems unlikely to me.

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August 21, 2014, 12:05:48 AM
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You forgot the PSU costs. Everyone always forgets the PSU cost. The S3 does not cost $305, it costs at least $350.

Only if you're setting up a single S3. If you doing any sort of farm, you're going to use server power supplies which cost maybe $10 per S3.
Got any examples?  This seems unlikely to me.

The Dell 750w can be purchased for around that, a few cables and a large enough quantity would get that price.

Or you could purchase a breakout board adds a bit more to the PSU cost, its easier and sometimes looks nicer.
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August 21, 2014, 12:08:56 AM
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Got any examples?  This seems unlikely to me.

here is your example : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637595.0

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August 21, 2014, 12:23:00 AM
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But +18.5 BTC for RoadStress
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Most of it was contributed for good causes. Go find the GB and read the OP

I'm not saying anything... He earned it

Btw, wouldn't' it be fair to wait with offering SP31 for sale until you release compenstion offers so we would have a chance to calculate your compensation against possible buy of SP31?
Atm, I don't know if I should invest in SP31 or not, becasue I have got no clue what the compensation is going to include...

Also, me and many have not even had a chance to earn anything yet from my GB units to invest in SP31...
Yeah no shit, we should have got first dibs on any October hardware this is getting ridiculous
I didn't even know Oct hardware was up for sale so even if we are able to put any btc together we will be again at the back of the bus ....niiiice

I guess we will have to wait for the response until late Thursday although someone has been obviously reading our posts, because I had one of my other posts about KNC (I called them cryptoc*nce) deleted just 2 hours after the above post
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August 21, 2014, 12:39:29 AM
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I didn't even know Oct hardware was up for sale so even if we are able to put any btc together we will be again at the back of the bus ....niiiice

Spondoolies doesn't want your order.  They want orders from people who have cash.  Orders from people to whom they owe cash do nothing but annoy them.  Previous customers are a pain in the ass.  They just want new fresh blood with pockets full of cash.  Previous customers keep asking for reductions due to getting fucked on their last order.  You think a company can make money dealing with people who expect 'compensation'. No way.  That is not how it works.

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August 21, 2014, 12:41:21 AM
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Got any examples?  This seems unlikely to me.

here is your example : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637595.0

Seems like that is going to cost more than $10 per S3. 

which cost maybe $10 per S3.

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August 21, 2014, 12:50:07 AM
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Got any examples?  This seems unlikely to me.

here is your example : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637595.0

Seems like that is going to cost more than $10 per S3. 

which cost maybe $10 per S3.


If you don't want the fancy board, and use just bare cables and something to hold them on the PSU you could find Dell 750w's for around $10 with a few dollars more to buy the cables.
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August 21, 2014, 01:05:03 AM
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Edit:
We're honoring the 250 machines price point although less than 200 were actually paid.

I hope enough people see this. I won't praise SP-Tech for this because people trolls will say I am biased, but this should be remembered.


No drama here..but just a note that on the group buy above.....the closed group buy page shows 386 units sold and less then 200 paid for according to Spondoolies...wow!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=575499.0

I did not realize that on such group buys (perhaps?) you can have such a drop in NOT paying etc.... Kinda shocked that
almost 50% do not pay..IN FULL....maybe this is common just pointing it out....

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One customer, the 185 machines, decided not to honor the reservation.
Above 98% of the rest did.

Well..that certainly will do it....had me wondering there...ouch!

Thanks for your efforts on our behalf on here....good to see the support active on a forum by an equipment seller...it is refreshing ..
and unfortunately unique in my experience.

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Thanks Spondoolies-Tech for honouring the Group Buy price point for the rest of us. I'm shocked to hear that the 185 machine Whale dropped out.

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August 21, 2014, 01:42:37 AM
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Got any examples?  This seems unlikely to me.

here is your example : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=637595.0

Seems like that is going to cost more than $10 per S3. 

which cost maybe $10 per S3.


If you don't want the fancy board, and use just bare cables and something to hold them on the PSU you could find Dell 750w's for around $10 with a few dollars more to buy the cables.

you are forgetting the time and work required to modify the server psu - could take half an hour to cut cables and solder them on. Atop that, server gear may have lower efficiency and lifespan compared with an 80+ gold ATX supply, and can be way louder (if that matters in the setup)

I personally switched all my DPS800 stuff over to 1200W GOLD or better supplies when i found some on the used market at good prices

24" PCI-E cables with 16AWG wires and stripped ends - great for server PSU mods, best prices https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=563461
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August 21, 2014, 01:48:56 AM
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I really want a SP31, and agree that it is far and away the best miner on the market right now, but just can't get over that $4000 price with a two month lead time.

Come on Spondoolies, please make it easier for me to be a repeat customer!  Smiley

yeah that price at 5.5TH for when you would get it looks high to me now with the likely difficulty changes coming the next 4 difficulty turns imho.

yeah looking at the end of oct likely when/if you get the unit in hand best case scenario...I'm not sure.....at current prices prob should just buy coin..
anywone have any idea what difficulty is ? likely ? to be of say next 3 turns of the clock?

I mean KNC is dumping 2nd and 3rd batch neptunes in that time frame the sp30's hit sept 20th the next batch of antiminer S3's hit
could we be looking at 20% diff changes till the next lull?

don't ask me just throwing out here to see what sticks on the wsll

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August 21, 2014, 03:30:27 AM
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Just found about http://www.rigwarz.com/ My only know-how comes from the forum, but it seems that I found an unbiased opinion about the SP30. It seems that it's doing very good besides all the trolls whining. Only 2 days ROI difference between S3 and SP30. Makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside.

Edit: Well if you add the 12 PSU cost I think that the SP30 might achieve ROI just a little faster than the S3s. Math is nice! Crypto is uber!
RigWarz clearly says .67 while you say .578.  Your trickery, slant and bullshit at every turn is boring.  

Read 10x time the below highlighted part:

so anybody have any information about underclocking and extending the sp30 lifetime in light of the giant difficulty increases?

Max voltage 0.67 (can't set it lower from the web GUI) and I'm getting 3.62Th/s and 0.58W/GH!

So 0.58W/Gh is by underclocking, not normal operation. Tard.

S3+ ROI: 180 days

SP31 ROI: 360 days

If the difficulty will be just a bit better than in your projections then the SP31 is clearly a winner. I can't help noticing that after the so praised ROI the S3 is doing close to nothing, while the SP31 is still doing something. Also I can lower the power efficiency down to 0.58W/GH and doing that will help me earn more money after difficulty reaches 70 billion so getting ROI will be faster than in your projection.

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August 21, 2014, 04:06:27 AM
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If the difficulty will be just a bit better than in your projections then the SP31 is clearly a winner. I can't help noticing that after the so praised ROI the S3 is doing close to nothing, while the SP31 is still doing something. Also I can lower the power efficiency down to 0.58W/GH and doing that will help me earn more money after difficulty reaches 70 billion so getting ROI will be faster than in your projection.

You are forgetting to add in the hosting costs $400/month

How is that Lexical analysis working out bickneleski?
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If the difficulty will be just a bit better than in your projections then the SP31 is clearly a winner. I can't help noticing that after the so praised ROI the S3 is doing close to nothing, while the SP31 is still doing something. Also I can lower the power efficiency down to 0.58W/GH and doing that will help me earn more money after difficulty reaches 70 billion so getting ROI will be faster than in your projection.

You are forgetting to add in the hosting costs $400/month

Not even in Advania I'm not paying $400/month. My October SP31 will be hosted with jtoomim where I will pay ~$240/month.

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August 21, 2014, 04:25:11 AM
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S3+ ROI: 180 days

SP31 ROI: 360 days

If the difficulty will be just a bit better than in your projections then the SP31 is clearly a winner. I can't help noticing that after the so praised ROI the S3 is doing close to nothing, while the SP31 is still doing something. Also I can lower the power efficiency down to 0.58W/GH and doing that will help me earn more money after difficulty reaches 70 billion so getting ROI will be faster than in your projection.

Care to share your projections which make the SP31 a winner? I can't find any scenario where that turns out to be the case.

If you buy 5.5TH worth of S3's you will mine ~$1200 worth of bitcoins before SP31's even begin shipping. 5.5TH worth of S3's would use about 4200W or 1200W more than an SP31.

At $0.1/kwh it would take 416 days of mining before the SP31 becomes a better deal.

As for the S3's making close to nothing after ROI, check again. (Changed it to 5.5TH worth of S3's)

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S3+ ROI: 180 days

SP31 ROI: 360 days

If the difficulty will be just a bit better than in your projections then the SP31 is clearly a winner. I can't help noticing that after the so praised ROI the S3 is doing close to nothing, while the SP31 is still doing something. Also I can lower the power efficiency down to 0.58W/GH and doing that will help me earn more money after difficulty reaches 70 billion so getting ROI will be faster than in your projection.

Care to share your projections which make the SP31 a winner? I can't find any scenario where that turns out to be the case.

If you buy 5.5TH worth of S3's you will mine ~$1200 worth of bitcoins before SP31's even begin shipping. 5.5TH worth of S3's would use about 4200W or 1200W more than an SP31.

At $0.1/kwh it would take 416 days of mining before the SP31 becomes a better deal.

As for the S3's making close to nothing after ROI, check again. (Changed it to 5.5TH worth of S3's)

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Are any miners a "winner" if ROI is the only focus?

Do these posts not belong in Mining Speculation?

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August 21, 2014, 04:34:56 AM
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As usual you are misleading. You are assuming that you will start hashing with all S3s on 14.09 while the SP31 starts hashing on 20.10. That is wrong and your whole calculations are way off. SP-Tech never shipped first batch after 15th of the month.

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As usual you are misleading. You are assuming that you will start hashing with all S3s on 14.09 while the SP31 starts hashing on 20.10. That is wrong and your whole calculations are way off. SP-Tech never shipped first batch after 15th of the month.
According to the site, they ship second half of October.
http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/sp31-yukon-october-batch-1
Is there a reason to think they'll ship before that?
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According to the site, they ship second half of October.
http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/sp31-yukon-october-batch-1
Is there a reason to think they'll ship before that?

Didn't even see that. I assumed that Batch 1 will stat before 15. But the misleading is still there. The S3 will not hash on 14 September.

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Didn't even see that. I assumed that Batch 1 will stat before 15. But the misleading is still there.
You assume a lot of things, and so far your track record isn't that great...

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You assume a lot of things, and so far your track record isn't that great...

I'm also assuming that you will not have 100% uptime with over 12 S3s Smiley

Edit: Usually my assumptions are based on the past facts, not on guesses.

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