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January 14, 2020, 06:49:20 PM
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I have always wondered why any of the large BTC whales are not dumping BSV coins

Like the Winklevoss twins, and any early OG from the forum.
All together you guys may have hundred of thousands of BTC (and subsequent forks).

Surely with the limited number of exchanges accepting BSV, it would be easy to dump that shit and increase your bag of BTC.

Pero, I sold all my BSV at $60 mark early 2019.  (obviously selling today would have been more profitable).
I sold to be able to tell myself that I don't own any of that faketoshi shitty coin.

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January 14, 2020, 08:42:16 PM
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I have always wondered why any of the large BTC whales are not dumping BSV coins

Like the Winklevoss twins, and any early OG from the forum.
All together you guys may have hundred of thousands of BTC (and subsequent forks).

Surely with the limited number of exchanges accepting BSV, it would be easy to dump that shit and increase your bag of BTC.

Pero, I sold all my BSV at $60 mark early 2019.  (obviously selling today would have been more profitable).
I sold to be able to tell myself that I don't own any of that faketoshi shitty coin.

Almost no reason for any BTC holder to own that shit.  First they would have had to own some Bcash at the time of the bcash sv fork, so there is NOT much reason for any BTC holder to hold Bcash, unless they happened to have NOT split their bcash from their BTC in late 2017.. sure there are some folks who have not touched any of those coins.. but that hardly leads anyone to believe that there should be peeps with brains who own bcash SV... .,.

So, any ability to sell BSV will rely on buyers, and whether you diptwats who support Bcash SV keep buying into the baloney bullshit will show whether faketoshi or is casino buddy are going to be able to cash out any profits.  Up to you whether you decide to pay those two scammers and/or any of the other diptwats on their team supporting such lying scum scammers.

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January 14, 2020, 09:20:11 PM
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I think BSVBTC could work out a nice short trade on a shorter time-frame. After a 100% gain in a day, I don't see much more upside, only Craig & co dumping bags:



Could be wrong, but worth the risk reward in my opinion. Completely overbought, though conflicting indicators as Bitfinex shows heavy selling pressure from a ridiculous wick to 0.24 btc, whereas Bittrex and others shows strong buying pressure (as there wasn't much of a sell off).

Entry: break of Agressive 13 sequential count.
Stop: high of the 9 candle
Profit: base of the rally

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January 14, 2020, 09:48:36 PM
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Almost no reason for any BTC holder to own that shit.  First they would have had to own some Bcash at the time of the bcash sv fork, so there is NOT much reason for any BTC holder to hold Bcash, unless they happened to have NOT split their bcash from their BTC in late 2017.. sure there are some folks who have not touched any of those coins.. but that hardly leads anyone to believe that there should be peeps with brains who own bcash SV... .,.

So, any ability to sell BSV will rely on buyers, and whether you diptwats who support Bcash SV keep buying into the baloney bullshit will show whether faketoshi or is casino buddy are going to be able to cash out any profits.  Up to you whether you decide to pay those two scammers and/or any of the other diptwats on their team supporting such lying scum scammers.


I disagree with you.
Up to a few weeks ago the forum had 500+ BSV and BCH  (from the funds returned by Ognasty)

Many whales could have unmoved BTC bought in the  2014-2015-2016
Basically anyone that had BTC before august 2017 and that didn't sold the BCH also has the BSV.

For example, the dude that gave 2 batches of 50BTC to the Grin project from unmoved coins since their mining in 2011.
I believe a guy like this would have dozen of thousands of BTC.

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January 14, 2020, 09:58:58 PM
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I think BSVBTC could work out a nice short trade on a shorter time-frame. After a 100% gain in a day, I don't see much more upside, only Craig & co dumping bags:



Could be wrong, but worth the risk reward in my opinion. Completely overbought, though conflicting indicators as Bitfinex shows heavy selling pressure from a ridiculous wick to 0.24 btc, whereas Bittrex and others shows strong buying pressure (as there wasn't much of a sell off).

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January 14, 2020, 10:37:05 PM
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Almost no reason for any BTC holder to own that shit.  First they would have had to own some Bcash at the time of the bcash sv fork, so there is NOT much reason for any BTC holder to hold Bcash, unless they happened to have NOT split their bcash from their BTC in late 2017.. sure there are some folks who have not touched any of those coins.. but that hardly leads anyone to believe that there should be peeps with brains who own bcash SV... .,.

So, any ability to sell BSV will rely on buyers, and whether you diptwats who support Bcash SV keep buying into the baloney bullshit will show whether faketoshi or is casino buddy are going to be able to cash out any profits.  Up to you whether you decide to pay those two scammers and/or any of the other diptwats on their team supporting such lying scum scammers.


I disagree with you.
Up to a few weeks ago the forum had 500+ BSV and BCH  (from the funds returned by Ognasty)

Many whales could have unmoved BTC bought in the  2014-2015-2016
Basically anyone that had BTC before august 2017 and that didn't sold the BCH also has the BSV.

For example, the dude that gave 2 batches of 50BTC to the Grin project from unmoved coins since their mining in 2011.
I believe a guy like this would have dozen of thousands of BTC.

Fair enough.. but whether any of these bcash sv holders are going to split their coins or go through the process of transferring them to any of the still existing exchanges that trade that crap might be another story.  They might choose just to just ignore the obvious scam project.  Of course, if the price goes high enough, they might change their thinking, too.  We can agree to disagree and not necessarily continue to speculate regarding what factors might motivate the splitting and movement of bcash sv coins that still are likely out there.

Of course, there is the little shenanigans that scammer csw and casino buddy are planning to allow for them to have possession of all of those non-moved coins.. so there is that ploy that is going on too, so really surprising that anyone would give any value to such an obvious scam that relies upon ongoing pumpening so that they can dump coins that previously were not even theirs... hahahahahaha.. Maybe we can also agree that their level of scum is very creative.   Wink Wink

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- https://twitter.com/mygooglev0ice/status/1217209373820444672

- https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.376.0_1.pdf

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Until then, he's still a fraud.


I don't understand much about the Satoshi drama, but is good to know the sentiment of some Bitcoin maximalist that Craig is only a fraud for the moment, and when he finally prove that he is Satoshi then the flippening will happen faster than what we though.

But why hold the proof, the ultimate proof, too long? This has become a useless drama because Craig is saying a lot of things. He is claiming this and that but he lacks any proof, undeniable proof, a proof beyond all doubt, that would finally end everything and completely shut the mouth of all critics?

Until then, flippening is at most an illusion.

 
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Until then, he's still a fraud.


I don't understand much about the Satoshi drama, but is good to know the sentiment of some Bitcoin maximalist that Craig is only a fraud for the moment, and when he finally prove that he is Satoshi then the flippening will happen faster than what we though.

But why hold the proof, the ultimate proof, too long? This has become a useless drama because Craig is saying a lot of things. He is claiming this and that but he lacks any proof, undeniable proof, a proof beyond all doubt, that would finally end everything and completely shut the mouth of all critics?

Until then, flippening is at most an illusion.

As far as i understand, he did not sign any key or proof anything because if he do so he will be breaking the rules of the tulip trust, he just said that he receive the keys that unlock those address so he can now sign or move those coins legally.

So if he do so, that means he is Satoshi?
And by default BSV is the original Bitcoin?


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January 15, 2020, 05:08:19 AM
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Until then, he's still a fraud.


I don't understand much about the Satoshi drama, but is good to know the sentiment of some Bitcoin maximalist that Craig is only a fraud for the moment, and when he finally prove that he is Satoshi then the flippening will happen faster than what we though.

But why hold the proof, the ultimate proof, too long? This has become a useless drama because Craig is saying a lot of things. He is claiming this and that but he lacks any proof, undeniable proof, a proof beyond all doubt, that would finally end everything and completely shut the mouth of all critics?

Until then, flippening is at most an illusion.

As far as i understand, he did not sign any key or proof anything because if he do so he will be breaking the rules of the tulip trust, he just said that he receive the keys that unlock those address so he can now sign or move those coins legally.

So if he do so, that means he is Satoshi?
And by default BSV is the original Bitcoin?



I already anticipate (and I believe others have asserted the same) that Craig might be able to show that he has access to the copies of satoshi keys on the BSV chain.. which is a BIG so fucking what.

He needs to be able to show that he has access to those keys on the BTC chain..   The court is NOT that dumb, even though Craig is probably dumb enough to assert that BSV is bitcoin.... which does not really mean shit, because BSV is a November 2018 creation, even though it had used bcash and BTC transactional history, but that capacity to get access to unmoved coins will be caused by centralized manipulation on a chain that is a copy of a copy of a copy... not even close to the real bitcoin....  The court should really just lock him up and throw away the key when they see him trying to play that copy of a copy of a copy card.

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January 15, 2020, 07:52:42 AM
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Until then, he's still a fraud.


I don't understand much about the Satoshi drama, but is good to know the sentiment of some Bitcoin maximalist that Craig is only a fraud for the moment, and when he finally prove that he is Satoshi then the flippening will happen faster than what we though.

But why hold the proof, the ultimate proof, too long? This has become a useless drama because Craig is saying a lot of things. He is claiming this and that but he lacks any proof, undeniable proof, a proof beyond all doubt, that would finally end everything and completely shut the mouth of all critics?

Until then, flippening is at most an illusion.

As far as i understand, he did not sign any key or proof anything because if he do so he will be breaking the rules of the tulip trust, he just said that he receive the keys that unlock those address so he can now sign or move those coins legally.

So if he do so, that means he is Satoshi?
And by default BSV is the original Bitcoin?


Do I still need to respond to this? I guess JayJuanGee's reply is more than enough.

By the way, it is a fallacy to call what comes after as the original and what comes before as the fake one. That defies logic.  Roll Eyes

 
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January 15, 2020, 10:10:50 AM
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In this last filling by Satoshi, he gave 1600 address that he claims he owns and that hold bitcoin he mined, the total amount is approx a bit over 1,000,000 BTC

So if Craig is lying about that, why the real owners of those 1600 address don't move their coins?
So is Craig telling the truth? he owns the satoshi address? he is satoshi?

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In this last filling by Satoshi, he gave 1600 address that he claims he owns and that hold bitcoin he mined, the total amount is approx a bit over 1,000,000 BTC

So if Craig is lying about that, why the real owners of those 1600 address don't move their coins?
So is Craig telling the truth? he owns the satoshi address? he is satoshi?

There's no way Craig is Satoshi. If he was really Satoshi he wouldn't have felt the need to tell dozens or even hundreds of lies over the year. He wouldn't have perjured himself in court, or made idiotic statements defaming others (such as theymos and sirius, two of the original members of this forum), which caused the judge to enter into a default judgment for the plaintiff.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536/gov.uscourts.flsd.521536.377.0.pdf

Craig is a con man. People buying SV are buying into a con. It will end poorly for them.

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January 15, 2020, 12:51:20 PM
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Currently is 4.4% more profitable to mine BSV than BTC

Is BTC at risk of losing hash power because miners will switch to BSV?


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January 15, 2020, 12:54:43 PM
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Let's see him move a bunch of those coins from several of the 1600 addresses. Perhaps he got one, but the important ones are within the first 100 blocks, particularly the genesis block and the key used in block 70 (as payment to Hal.)

That and his PGP key.

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January 15, 2020, 01:00:33 PM
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Currently is 4.4% more profitable to mine BSV than BTC

Is BTC at risk of losing hash power because miners will switch to BSV?


of course, it is easier to pump smaller cap coins. that's why you can make it more profitable for a certain period of time.

don't worry, miners will switch to BSV to get more USD or BTC hehe.
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Interesting, and when do you think BSV will overtake XRP and take the 3rd position?
This week?

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January 15, 2020, 01:32:33 PM
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lol someone would be insane to buy now unless u have good inside info.
still, a shit scam even if has a lame pump, which is all bs behind it.

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January 15, 2020, 01:55:21 PM
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lol someone would be insane to buy now unless u have good inside info.
still, a shit scam even if has a lame pump, which is all bs behind it.

Funny because i been hearing the same thing since it was 50$


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