[CFNP] BestChange Signature Campaign | Sr Member+

[The Cryptovator]

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Hi, guys Thank you all for your applications!

The new participant of the signature campaign is tranthidung.

You should learn to read topic title at least before apply. The title itself described [CFNP]
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[Best_Change]

Attention

We have an important announcement for those participants  who abuse posting in Spam Megathreads. Guys, if you don't fix it, we'll remove you from our campaign. Posting in Spam Megathreads is almost a 100% attempt to trick the advertiser. Moreover, it is just spam that uglify the forum.

We know who in our campaign is doing these things, and we give you the opportunity to change your behavior.

[JeromeTash]

Attention

We have an important announcement for those participants  who abuse posting in Spam Megathreads. Guys, if you don't fix it, we'll remove you from our campaign. Posting in Spam Megathreads is almost a 100% attempt to trick the advertiser. Moreover, it is just spam that uglify the forum.

Just asking for a small clarification. Are gambling discussion threads like this and this also in the same category of unwanted threads?

The threads were intended to avoid spamming the Gambling discussion board with same league topics by different members. I do like discussing sports and casinos sometimes and I wouldn't want to be caught off guard 

[Best_Change]

Attention

We have an important announcement for those participants  who abuse posting in Spam Megathreads. Guys, if you don't fix it, we'll remove you from our campaign. Posting in Spam Megathreads is almost a 100% attempt to trick the advertiser. Moreover, it is just spam that uglify the forum.

Just asking for a small clarification. Are gambling discussion threads like this and this also in the same category of unwanted threads?

The threads were intended to avoid spamming the Gambling discussion board with same league topics by different members. I do like discussing sports and casinos sometimes and I wouldn't want to be caught off guard 

We are not going to remove participants who sometimes post in such threads. We will remove participants who mainly write in such threads.

[YOSHIE]

Just asking for a small clarification. Are gambling discussion threads like this and this also in the same category of unwanted threads?

The discussion you mentioned doesn't matter, as long as it doesn't lead to spam & bot, or off topic.

What is meant is not allowed like this: Topic: Is this account a bot?

Meaning: the topic talks about "Cryptocurrency" and instead you answer about "gambling". That is what is meant not allowed.

While you walk on the tracks in a straight line, you are fine.

[coupable]

Attention

We have an important announcement for those participants  who abuse posting in Spam Megathreads. Guys, if you don't fix it, we'll remove you from our campaign. Posting in Spam Megathreads is almost a 100% attempt to trick the advertiser. Moreover, it is just spam that uglify the forum.

Just asking for a small clarification. Are gambling discussion threads like this and this also in the same category of unwanted threads?

I am not sure about this, but i think if your post isn't in the first two pages of the thread, it can be considered as "spam in mega threads" which is also discouraged by forum policy. In my opinion, i think it's better to start a new topic rather than continue posting in page 20.
I am just sharing my opinion here.  

[Questat]

Attention

We have an important announcement for those participants  who abuse posting in Spam Megathreads. Guys, if you don't fix it, we'll remove you from our campaign. Posting in Spam Megathreads is almost a 100% attempt to trick the advertiser. Moreover, it is just spam that uglify the forum.

Just asking for a small clarification. Are gambling discussion threads like this and this also in the same category of unwanted threads?

I am not sure about this, but i think if your post isn't in the first two pages of the thread, it can be considered as "spam in mega threads" which is also discouraged by forum policy. In my opinion, i think it's better to start a new topic rather than continue posting in page 20.
I am just sharing my opinion here.  

Did you check the link? it's "Premier League" and "2020 NBA Season". It could be a mega thread but it's not a spam thread as NBA and Premier League have updates in regular basis, you can't just make a thread to discuss a certain news or event, everything related to the NBA and Premier League has to be discussed in the certain thread.

[examplens]

Attention

We have an important announcement for those participants  who abuse posting in Spam Megathreads. Guys, if you don't fix it, we'll remove you from our campaign. Posting in Spam Megathreads is almost a 100% attempt to trick the advertiser. Moreover, it is just spam that uglify the forum.

We know who in our campaign is doing these things, and we give you the opportunity to change your behavior.

I guess all campaign participants thinking that they doing great work. maybe they just don’t understand the essence of the discussion here and advertisement which it brings. Many users think if they write two-line text, it can't be spam, although the post is completely useless.
I think you should write some notification through a spreadsheet for each critical participant, so you will be sure that everyone is warned. We talking about users who are posted in megathreads, how to expect from them to read and understand your attention in your last post.

[cryptoaddictchie]

There are lots of discussion whether a thread is a spam mega or not. But the idea of BestChange is to reduced posts made on a oversaturated spam thread that have common topics like what LoyceV described.

Lots of us posting on different section we used to or we enjoyed, it will not hurt us if we are to minimized those posting habit on some sections that concludes as spam mega thread. Just like the BM told here:

We are not going to remove participants who sometimes post in such threads. We will remove participants who mainly write in such threads.

I am posted also on some mega thread particularly on my thread but I always make sure Im only posting there if necessary for some clarification and update cause I have responsibility to response or discuss something there which only on topic and part of my OP. So I guess JeromeTash saying is okay, as long we can minimized it there is no problem at all and like yoshie said as long it does not lead to any kind of spam.

We talking about users who are posted in megathreads, how to expect from them to read and understand your attention in your last post.

Agreed. Maybe a note on each of those warned will get the attention.

_{Its only my opinion of what BestChange trying to say, limit or avoid some of the thread that becomes a spam thread. We should appreciate his warning as this could help us find organic discussion without repetitive ideas all over again.} Just my take on this matter. Cheers,

[Best_Change]

As we said before, we are not going to remove participants who sometimes post in such threads. But, for example, if there are 8-10 out of 25 posts in such threads, this is a problem. Our ads are drowning in a stream of posts. We don't like that, guys.

[Little Mouse]

Every campaign spends money to get some advertisement. Posts in such megathread which generates none of value to the forum, no value to the advertiser, should be filtered I think. There are some altcoin discussion megathread which are repeating posts all the time.
I would suggest Bestchange to limit on posts on Altcoin Discussion board since most of the times that's the heaven of spammers. They usually discuss nothing there almost. So, limiting like 10 posts a week or 12 would be better in my opinion.
Anyway, it's great to see that Bestchange is considering chance and a warning to its participants.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

As we said before, we are not going to remove participants who sometimes post in such threads. But, for example, if there are 8-10 out of 25 posts in such threads, this is a problem. Our ads are drowning in a stream of posts. We don't like that, guys.

Well said as some of those thread are very captivating and an interesting place to display your ad as conversation ongoing on the thread aren't repeated convo and new members are attracted to the discuss daily. A perfect example is the premier discussion where I see new users daily coming to join the conversation.

Since your ads are mainly focusing on attracting traders, then the gambling board isn't a perfect board so is understandable if you punish users, using the section especially from megathread to reach the minimum weekly post court.

Promoters have to understand, that the company hiring them need to see a reason to continue advertising on the forum, so while they contribute positively, they should also put their hirer into consideration and try to give them the best publicity possible. Any decisions taken by @Best_Change should be accepted in good fate.

[bakasabo]

Since your ads are mainly focusing on attracting traders, then the gambling board isn't a perfect board.

There is an another side of the coin. These gamblers might wish to use bestchange as a bridge to withdraw winning into fiat money. If they win a lot (with help from tips and posts from gamblers from gambling board), then the probability they wish to withdraw and enjoy IRL what they achieved is higher. Than bestchange is the best intermediary between crypto and fiat as they offer variety of ways to make an exchange.

In this situation, maybe it will be better to limit the amount posts counter in megathreads towards weekly minimum required?

[Questat]

In this situation, maybe it will be better to limit the amount posts counter in megathreads towards weekly minimum required?

It has been answered already

But, for example, if there are 8-10 out of 25 posts in such threads, this is a problem. Our ads are drowning in a stream of posts. We don't like that, guys.

Maybe BC can change the minimum to 10 and the maximum is  25 posts (paid posts), so users who are busy outside the forum does not need to do burst posting just to reach the minimum requirement.

a good example is from Chipmixer campaign,

1. We will pay a maximum of 50 posts every week. Posts will not be rolled over, and there is no minimum number of posts.

[tranthidung]

There is an another side of the coin. These gamblers might wish to use bestchange as a bridge to withdraw winning into fiat money. If they win a lot (with help from tips and posts from gamblers from gambling board), then the probability they wish to withdraw and enjoy IRL what they achieved is higher. Than bestchange is the best intermediary between crypto and fiat as they offer variety of ways to make an exchange.

Gamblers use bitcoin and crypto. It is correct but the main aim of one signature campaign is having as much exposures as possible to readers. Readers are forum members. People rarely spend their time to read in spam mega threads. I occasionally visit and post on those threads, not much honestly. Because my infrequently visit there, my thinking can be wrong but there are not many high quality posts in spam mega threads.

Having exposure in gambling threads is good because gambling is one of biggest adoption area for cryptocurrency.

The side effects will appear if posts are mostly made in gambling discussion board. I might strict but most of discussion boards (in the names) are place for spam. There are good posters, and good posts but too hard to find. Consequently, making a good post in those boards almost does not make a difference in terms of exposures on readers' eyes and attention. They will fastly be covered by other low quality posts.

In this situation, maybe it will be better to limit the amount posts counter in megathreads towards weekly minimum required?

2 to 3, in maximum, I suppose. 10% of weekly post quota in Spam mega thread is enough. If one participant has big love in those threads, s(he) is free to posts any posts in those thread for personal favorite. But remember to make more posts outside those places to satisfy weekly post requirements of the campaign.

In 2019, I wrote the thread Bitcointalk posting etiquette, in which you can see the section

Don't post in Spam Mega thread
Spam mega threads are spam ones, in which users post without reading. Please read:

• Spam Megathreads.

If you are good poster or have intention to be a good poster, you should stay away from Spam Megathreads.

[Slow death]

As we said before, we are not going to remove participants who sometimes post in such threads. But, for example, if there are 8-10 out of 25 posts in such threads, this is a problem. Our ads are drowning in a stream of posts. We don't like that, guys.

I understand perfectly, in the last few weeks I have posted more in these sessions: premier league, Italian League and La Liga because I do sports betting, but I must confess that I never knew that these threads were considered spam, I mean it doesn’t make any sense to consider them spam .

But from the point of view of marketing and in order to achieve better results for your company I totally agree with you that it is necessary to do a few posts in mega thread sections.

[Oasisman]

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I think you should write some notification through a spreadsheet for each critical participant, so you will be sure that everyone is warned. We talking about users who are posted in megathreads, how to expect from them to read and understand your attention in your last post.

Please do this @best_change. So the participants will be addressed individually on what areas to improve and avoid into a specific posting habits, and more importantly for the effectivity of the advertisement as well.

[minairia3]

2 to 3, in maximum, I suppose. 10% of weekly post quota in Spam mega thread is enough. If one participant has big love in those threads, s(he) is free to posts any posts in those thread for personal favorite. But remember to make more posts outside those places to satisfy weekly post requirements of the campaign.

I like this idea, but how can we know if the mega threads were posting are spam threads if the topic is good. I agree with the additional post if necessary to compliment with the signature requirement. Or also we can try the suggestion by Questat. But depends on bestchange if implementing pay per post will suit their time to check specifically.

Maybe BC can change the minimum to 10 and the maximum is  25 posts (paid posts), so users who are busy outside the forum does not need to do burst posting just to reach the minimum requirement.

Will support bestchange with this, If they found a system flawed then there must be reason for this. Tranthidung explained well details on this, and the only choice for us is to improved on posting on good sections and avoid spam threads and helped company for the ads to be more visible.

[Joca97]

Do you still take applications for your signature campaign?

[kotajikikox]

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I think you should write some notification through a spreadsheet for each critical participant, so you will be sure that everyone is warned. We talking about users who are posted in megathreads, how to expect from them to read and understand your attention in your last post.

Please do this @best_change. So the participants will be addressed individually on what areas to improve and avoid into a specific posting habits, and more importantly for the effectivity of the advertisement as well.

I think this will help the whole team to progress and also not only about the Posting from Megathreads instead every bad details of each participants will be addressed.

This is important matter about the communication from the manager and the participants.

GoodLuck BestChange for the new rules you will be implemented this will help everyone from forum members and to the forum itself.

Do you still take applications for your signature campaign?

The Title clearly says  about  CNFP meaning there are no new participants needed,Unless there is opening later when the manager finished counting.