Free Ross Ulbricht?

[gentlemand]

I find all the murder stuff pathetic, not that I necessarily doubt his desire to do it.

1 - someone is willing to kill an anonymous stranger by walking into a situation they know nothing about on the word of another anonymous stranger.

2- make up a load of bollocks in return for a large amount of money with zero comebacks or risk.

I'd love to know if one single cold called 'dark market' assassination has taken place anywhere in the world.

More likely a bunch of 11 yr old scammers in Siberia have done rather nicely.

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[xtraelv]

I wrote an article about it how it related to the bitcoin forum Silk road and Bitcointalk. How it played a role in its rise and fall.

Ross Ulbricht knew what he was doing was illegal and could result in serious criminal charges.

He deliberately kept a low key profile and was careful with his cyber security.

But he got caught. I believe the sentence is excessive but I also feel that he is downplaying the seriousness of his offending.

Drug addiction is a sickness and should be treated as such. But I feel the motivation for Silk road was the thrill of getting away with it and greed.

I'm not convinced that Ross Ulbricht has remorse for his actions and also suspect he still has some bitcoin stashed away.

[DireWolfM14]

I find all the murder stuff pathetic, not that I necessarily doubt his desire to do it.

1 - someone is willing to kill an anonymous stranger by walking into a situation they know nothing about on the word of another anonymous stranger.

2- make up a load of bollocks in return for a large amount of money with zero comebacks or risk.

I'd love to know if one single cold called 'dark market' assassination has taken place anywhere in the world.

More likely a bunch of 11 yr old scammers in Siberia have done rather nicely.

I'm in agreement with this.  I don't know about 11 year-olds in Siberia, I think it's more likely one of the various law enforcement agencies investigating Ulbricht were behind the Redandwhite account.  Which is probably why the government didn't think they could get a conviction for conspiracy to commit murder.  The way the discussion transcripts read, I think a good defense lawyer could get the all of that evidence thrown out since it looks a lot like entrapment.  There are arguments the the targets weren't real people, and also likely to be fabrications of the investigation teams.

However, in my opinion that doesn't absolve Ulbricht from actually trying (and paying) to have those people murdered.  That's probably why the judge allowed such a severe sentence for his other convictions.  It seems pretty clear that he was willing to kill people to preserve his ability to earn money, or prevent his identity from being leaked.  I don't know how anyone can justify that behavior.   

[GazetaBitcoin]

@OP you sound like you watched the documentary I mentioned in the 3rd reply to your post. If not, I encourage you to do so It will enlighten you a lot.

[UNOE]

How did they get those messages from the article if their messages were PGP encrypted?
The transcripts make him seem as he's watching out for cyber security.
It crossed my mind that these could be fake.

[gentlemand]

How did they get those messages from the article if their messages were PGP encrypted?
The transcripts make him seem as he's watching out for cyber security.
It crossed my mind that these could be fake.

He was arrested logged in to Silk Road with his admin account. That was what his entire arrest was planned around. They had to grab it before he could close or encrypt his laptop.

Everything was on there and wide open to them once they secured it - his journal, chat logs, wallets, you name it.

[UNOE]

How did they get those messages from the article if their messages were PGP encrypted?
The transcripts make him seem as he's watching out for cyber security.
It crossed my mind that these could be fake.

He was arrested logged in to Silk Road with his admin account. That was what his entire arrest was planned around. They had to grab it before he could close or encrypt his laptop.

Everything was on there and wide open to them once they secured it - his journal, chat logs, wallets, you name it.

Damn! That was a quick bust!
How did they locate him?
I know I should watch the documentaries, but I never get enough time for that.

[gentlemand]

Damn! That was a quick bust!
How did they locate him?
I know I should watch the documentaries, but I never get enough time for that.

In the end the fatal fact was the silly git leaving a post with rossulbricht@gmail.com on this here very forum. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47811.msg568744#msg568744  I think he deleted the original post but it was quoted by someone else. Now it's archival. It was found by a bog standard google search.

This is his account on here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3905 and the same account made the first ever mention of Silk Road anywhere. He deleted that post too but it's quoted here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175.msg43039#msg43039

For some reason no one had looked into it even though they'd been looking for DPR for a year or two by then.

There's a pretty rapid summary here but of course there was a fair bit more leading up to it - https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/01/the-incredibly-simple-story-of-how-the-govt-googled-ross-ulbricht/

They already had other details about DPR and once they started to look at Ross's internet footprint they converged enough to go after him.

[Carlton Banks]

I think he's a twat who knew what he was getting into. He's also the victim of a system out for his blood.

You cannot really mitigate calling him a twat that way. "Twat" literally means "vagina", and tends to be used as a perjorative to describe someone who is submissive, weak, lacking courage and/or lacking wisdom, and yet over-confident (which is, in addition, shall we say rather a short-sighted way of regarding the many facets of the wondrous organ we may refer to with a little more affection as the pussy)

It's somewhat ironic that you yourself often display behaviour and attitudes that are submissive and bereft of courage, and yet still over-confident (although seemingly founded on a selfish form of wisdom). Notice how I'm telling you what you are without feeling the need to use perjorative language to do so.

Ross may have been short-sighted, but he had the courage to try to change the world, and will always be remembered for doing so. Nobodies die. Somebodies live

[UNOE]

Damn! That was a quick bust!
How did they locate him?
I know I should watch the documentaries, but I never get enough time for that.

In the end the fatal fact was the silly git leaving a post with rossulbricht@gmail.com on this here very forum. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47811.msg568744#msg568744  I think he deleted the original post but it was quoted by someone else. Now it's archival. It was found by a bog standard google search.

This is his account on here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3905 and the same account made the first ever mention of Silk Road anywhere. He deleted that post too but it's quoted here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175.msg43039#msg43039

For some reason no one had looked into it even though they'd been looking for DPR for a year or two by then.

There's a pretty rapid summary here but of course there was a fair bit more leading up to it - https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/01/the-incredibly-simple-story-of-how-the-govt-googled-ross-ulbricht/

They already had other details about DPR and once they started to look at Ross's internet footprint they converged enough to go after him.

Damn.
That was a really rookie mistake, and they took quite long to figure out something you could easily google.
Thanks for the summary.