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January 14, 2020, 11:37:16 AM
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It was explained here https://www.etorox.com/news/opinions/understanding-the-effects-of-bitcoin-halving/

Reading at that article, it all has a positive effect to the market.  And I believe it so, in fact, the long-term effect of halving to the market price will help the traders to have a sustainable market gain and for the economic growth of crypto. Then I supposed to think that for a long bearish season there is something that could help to stop and that is how HALVING can do. And I'll find out that this will be the best solution that we must have and not just procuring of having stable coins or a centralized market.

Halving not just plays an important role in a growing market we have but it is very important to acquire.

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January 14, 2020, 12:41:00 PM
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Bitcoin block reward halving has a positive influence on bitcoin as it further reduces the amount o BTCs that are rewarded hence decreasing its supply yet facing the same increase in demand. The reason why this tend to affect the entire market is because most o the altcoins fall under the dominance of BTC and that is why the entire market also tends to increase in price as BTC keeps on rising. This is clearly being seen at the moment on coinmarketcap.

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January 14, 2020, 01:07:46 PM
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It does. As Satoshi implied in Bitcoin's whitepaper, Bitcoin mining is analogous to gold mining. Using this same analogy, reward halving in Bitcoin mining is just like the decrease or the depletion of the supply of gold. The amount of gold miners successfully mine is also decreasing over time as the supply dwindles. This is I guess the basis of Satoshi designing Bitcoin miners being rewarded lesser and lesser over time as the supply of Bitcoin yet to be mined also dwindles. The result is the increase of value or preciousness of gold or Bitcoin, provided the demand does not plummet significantly.

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January 14, 2020, 01:21:41 PM
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The outlook of bitcoin will be positive after halving because it is going to limit the number of processing or mining and this will create permanent scarcity which will increase demand on the other hand.

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January 14, 2020, 01:51:58 PM
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Obviously, block halving will make BTC scarce, as it cuts down the supply. And we all know that when an asset is so scarce, the price will shoot up in the future. And historically, we have seen that kind of effect and we may see some bullish trend right after the said event.

Some small-to-mid miners though might be affected, or if they really wanted to continue, they should upgrade their mining gear. I think it's not that bad, reinvent otherwise you will die in this business. So I would say that bitcoin halving has a important role to keep BTC alive until every supply is mine.

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January 14, 2020, 02:01:13 PM
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Halving is very good for Bitcoin because of the law of economics, and more precisely because of the reduction in growing supply. When supply is not growing and demand increases, so does the price naturally increase also.

The only negative thing may be that miners will start capitulating and those who have had a large amount of BTC may want to sell their inventory. However, this is only a theoretical threat. Let's hope this doesn't happen.

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January 14, 2020, 02:11:02 PM
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And I believe it so, in fact, the long-term effect of halving to the market price will help the traders to have a sustainable market gain and for the economic growth of crypto.

sorry to disappoint but that is not what halving does.
you can simply take a look at hundreds of altcoins that had halvings and crashed hard because of it. the latest was one of the biggest altcoins called litecoin!
your mistake is that you are generalizing what happens to bitcoin, to the entire market. the fact is that bitcoin price rises a lot due to halving only because there is an increasing demand for bitcoin in which case the halving only acts as the catalyst not the cause.

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January 14, 2020, 02:22:21 PM
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The halving is a very big fundamental event for Bitcoin. If you want to have a reference point it is much more important than the annual earning reports for companies.

A 50% reduction in the mining rewards is pretty significant taking into account that probably the most selling pressure existent in the market are the miners who sell to cover their operational costs.
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January 14, 2020, 02:28:46 PM
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It has to be positive there's no other way. It's like mining gold and you suddenly hit granite and know that you used to drill the rocks but from now on it's explosives and those are more expensive and more dangerous. Less gold is going to be mined and it's going to cost more. It's the same with Bitcoin.

Of course it works only as long as there's demand. If demand drops price will not increase despite the change in difficulty and rarity.
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January 14, 2020, 02:36:32 PM
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From my experience, i have seen always when a halving gets closer the markets start some crazy moves. My theory is that miners have the power of market manipulating, and, since they don't want to earn less money, then they bump the price on the halving. But is just a theory.

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January 14, 2020, 02:44:12 PM
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Of course, halving will positively affect the market. Halving is reducing or cutting the rewards to be given to bitcoin miners, this will result in less supply and more demand also results in increase in price. The effect of halving may last for a long period of time. Many investors will be attracted to invest in cryptos and hopefully, the market will flood green marks for months.

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January 14, 2020, 02:51:03 PM
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Halving not just plays an important role in a growing market we have but it is very important to acquire.

Then why?
Is it really meant like that by satoshi?
Looks to me like etoro just created a new definition of the halving.

Block rewards halving.
That just means they will have lesser to take.
Which also means that the market needs to suffice what the miners needed.
If I could just get some bitcoin and my electric bill is too large that it cannot suffice how much per bitcoin is then I am out.

Halving might not be a good event for the miners but if the price is right then I think it will still be profitable.

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January 14, 2020, 02:56:29 PM
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It has to be positive there's no other way.
What about the vulnerability of bitcoin? This halving event will force small or even medium miners to stop operating which means bitcoin will become more vulnerable.

It can be overcome if an increase in the price of bitcoin is enough to make miners continue to profit. But what if it's not happening?

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January 14, 2020, 03:08:28 PM
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It has to be positive there's no other way.
What about the vulnerability of bitcoin? This halving event will force small or even medium miners to stop operating which means bitcoin will become more vulnerable.

It can be overcome if an increase in the price of bitcoin is enough to make miners continue to profit. But what if it's not happening?
Vulnerable from what? Even the small miners have stopped their operation since long time ago and if there's lost of hash in the process it will readjust the difficulty. this halving will not necessarily bring bitcoin into its downfall but instead could encourage people to see that bitcoin actually worth more than what it is right now and for your information if so many miners are quitting, there'll always be someone who will take their role to get the profit.

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Bitcoin has controlled inflation and is based on coin halving that is halving the reward after a certain period of time. Before Iran/USA tension halving was the only thing before us that could take bitcoin out from bearish trend and now all of sudden price is up due to global issue. I don't think halving will have any impact on bitcoin price.

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January 14, 2020, 03:17:11 PM
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Of course, halving will positively affect the market. Halving is reducing or cutting the rewards to be given to bitcoin miners, this will result in less supply and more demand also results in increase in price. The effect of halving may last for a long period of time. Many investors will be attracted to invest in cryptos and hopefully, the market will flood green marks for months.
Still, many miners right after halving generate losses for some period (eg. until they receive new mining rigs) and therefore they sell part of coins in their possession, usually pushing the price of that crypto lower, while some other miners simply switch from that crypto to one which is much more profitable to mine.

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January 14, 2020, 03:21:58 PM
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It has to be positive there's no other way.
What about the vulnerability of bitcoin? This halving event will force small or even medium miners to stop operating which means bitcoin will become more vulnerable.

It can be overcome if an increase in the price of bitcoin is enough to make miners continue to profit. But what if it's not happening?

If that happens, difficulty and hash rate will adjust making it profitable and attracting new miners.

But do not worry since history is in favor of the price going up on each halving.
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January 14, 2020, 03:23:11 PM
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Basically, halving was designed by the creator of the Bitcoin to control the inflation which is good, something that no other currency has been able to do. People tend to buy Bitcoin as much as they can before halving and this trend has happened as in the previous halving, many people speculate that the price increase was due to political conditions in the world now but in my opinion this because of halving.
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Bitcoin has controlled inflation and is based on coin halving that is halving the reward after a certain period of time. Before Iran/USA tension halving was the only thing before us that could take bitcoin out from bearish trend and now all of sudden price is up due to global issue. I don't think halving will have any impact on bitcoin price.

My point is quite contracting to this because the tension between the both parties we know for sure, is just creating a market price for a short term gain and already been in to market correction lately. The sudden increase in the market price of bitcoin today is due to the fact that bitcoin has a good market graph telling traders and investors that the long wait is over, in addition, bitcoin halving is supporting this increase with an assurance that we will have a good market price for bitcoin in the next few months.

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The role of halving is crucial for bitcoin to stay alive and catch more value by time passing so yea , halving is super important when it comes to crypto markets. We're 4months way from halv and the impact of it may not be positive in 1st time as the price might be going down a little like it always did after a halv but give it a few months and we will see the impact of halving showing up on price and maybe even trigger the bull run.

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January 14, 2020, 03:59:45 PM
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Of course, it does. We all know that it plays an important role in Bitcoin and us. Even before 2020, most of us were already expecting so much about bitcoin halving. It was designed to be there because it has a purpose and a role. Actually halving is such a great idea by Satoshi. From the past halving, it gives a positive impact on bitcoin price and the upcoming halving, it will also cause a pump to the price. And lastly, this coming halving will determine if bitcoin will set a new all-time high price.

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January 14, 2020, 04:28:45 PM
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Vulnerable from what?
The 51% attack of course.

Even the small miners have stopped their operation since long time ago
What I meant with small miners before was personal / family miners with a garage or warehouse full of mining stuff.

if there's lost of hash in the process it will readjust the difficulty.
Yes, that means the difficulty will become lower. But what's the point of this? The hash rate is still lower than before.

If that happens, difficulty and hash rate will adjust making it profitable and attracting new miners.
The difficulty will become lower in line with the hash rate which means the bitcoin network will be less secure

for your information if so many miners are quitting, there'll always be someone who will take their role to get the profit.
The miners are quitting not to leave a room for a new miner, but because there is no more room for them.

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January 14, 2020, 04:33:20 PM
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Of course, it does. We all know that it plays an important role in Bitcoin and us. Even before 2020, most of us were already expecting so much about bitcoin halving. It was designed to be there because it has a purpose and a role. Actually halving is such a great idea by Satoshi. From the past halving, it gives a positive impact on bitcoin price and the upcoming halving, it will also cause a pump to the price. And lastly, this coming halving will determine if bitcoin will set a new all-time high price.

So in your opinion, halving event is to increase the price and achieve a new ATH? Halving is very well advised and one of the most important features of Bitcoin.

Here is very interesting comment and prediction about coming halving from @theymos:

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Some have said that this halving won't have as much effect as the last two, but it's still a reduction in monetary inflation from 3.7%/yr to 1.8%/yr, which is far from nothing, and in fact I see it as permanently bringing BTC out of the inflationary era and into the deflationary era. I'm not sure that we'll see 20k again in 2020 (though it could happen), but I think that 10k+ is quite likely several months after the halving. Historically, the post-halving runup has happened some time after the halving, presumably after people started to really feel the reduced supply.

For now though I don't see enough enthusiasm or other upward pressure. To the institutional investors who most push the market, BTC is largely seen as "leveraged gold", but the US/worldwide economy looks fine for now on its surface, fiat inflation isn't a widespread concern, etc. (BTC also has fundamental value beyond its value as "gold" -- a hedge against inflation and fiat collapse --, but this is a large component of the price currently.) So absent any major news, I think that the trendline is slightly downward for now. ("Major news" would be mostly regulatory-related, such as an approved BTC ETF or increased regulatory pressure. Probably the downside risk is higher than the upside risk here.)

One point of upward pressure is that there may have been some tax-loss-harvesting sales in Q4, which would now disappear. Not sure how big of an effect this was. And you might justify early-year volatility as people locking in gains ASAP in tax year 2020.

I predict that we'll sit in the 6k-7k range for some time between now and the halving, and although I wouldn't be too surprised to see prices in the lower half of that range, I'll guess near the high end, leading to my prediction of 6751-6800 on April 1. On the other hand, I predict that the supply reduction as well as mounting worldwide economic shakiness will cause a large runup (at least above 10k) in the second half of 2020. In the unlikely event that I win, please donate the BTC to a BTC-accepting charity of your choice (eg. intelligence.org or fee.org).

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Certainly halving is very important to Bitcoin, Halving helps reduce the reward per block down and makes Bitcoin scarce. With the increasing demand of investors, but bitcoin is increasingly scarce, it will certainly help the price of bitcoin increase greatly. Like the previous two halving in the past, the price of bitcoin has risen sharply, so it is certain that this halving will also help bitcoin go up and we will see new ATH of bitcoin this year.



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In all trading markets in general, when supply falls and demand remains the same, it will drive up prices and the bitcoin market will be no exception.
As mining becomes tougher and the rewards become smaller and smaller, the price of bitcoin will rise. This we have seen in the past, every time bitcoin halves the price will increase sharply.

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January 14, 2020, 05:00:43 PM
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Halving is termed to be the biggest event in the crypto market. Till date it has made big changes in the price of bitcoin as well as on altcoins. Halving taking place every four years too is a reason for it to get more importance. Over the past soon after or before the days close to halving the price used to pump much higher. The same is the expectation this year, lets hope for the best to take place.

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Historically the halvings have boosted the price. I expect the same to happen this year. It makes sense that if the mining reward gets cut in half that the price increases due to lower supply and less mining reward for the same amount of work.

 
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January 14, 2020, 06:30:23 PM
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Halving not just plays an important role in a growing market we have but it is very important to acquire.
I will consider this if it now the first time of bitcoin halving. But it seems we are now on the third time which proven from the first and second that usually, it will be pumped up after months of the halving. So analytically speaking, when halving will occur there is an effect that will happen even it is late. If you remember in the year 2017(the 2nd time of halving) the market price of bitcoin was drastically pump up. Infact, we dont really know what will happen next in the bitcoin price.

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January 14, 2020, 08:22:26 PM
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We know the purpose of halving and thinking that satoshi did ever thought of this event for bitcoin, he's really saw the possibility that it will help to improve the ecosystem of bitcoin.

Historically the halvings have boosted the price. I expect the same to happen this year. It makes sense that if the mining reward gets cut in half that the price increases due to lower supply and less mining reward for the same amount of work.
It did boosted the prices after it but it will not be immediate as we can see right now. There are some other reasons why we are seeing the market starts to act like this but I don't have an idea why it's like that but everyone is loving it.

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The general market is already reacting to some positive bull run, I can't say it's solely USA-Iran face off because there will be no war anymore. This halving that is coming up may be part of the many reasons why we are seeing some massive price growth, when we seems not to be expecting it soon.

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And I believe it so, in fact, the long-term effect of halving to the market price will help the traders to have a sustainable market gain and for the economic growth of crypto.

sorry to disappoint but that is not what halving does.
you can simply take a look at hundreds of altcoins that had halvings and crashed hard because of it. the latest was one of the biggest altcoins called litecoin!
your mistake is that you are generalizing what happens to bitcoin, to the entire market. the fact is that bitcoin price rises a lot due to halving only because there is an increasing demand for bitcoin in which case the halving only acts as the catalyst not the cause.
It maybe I am wrong that point it out in general and I don't find out or even see Bitcoin's halving has a negative impact on altcoins (esp. for litecoin) during the last halving 2016. Because I always consider this Bitcoin halving is a reward for all, in fact, most altcoins have also an increase in their price at that time. But it is no wonder why that those altcoins that are dead already will be dead at all and don't have a chance to twist their current position.

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January 15, 2020, 05:19:52 AM
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if you look at block reward halving as a design to have a finite supply and a controlled supply distribution (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Controlled_supply) then yes, halving plays a very important role in the crypto world as the combination of having a cap and decreasing the reward is making it deflationary.
but when you think of halving as a price pumper then no it has no role to play whatsoever. specifically not in crypto market as a whole. when speaking of the market, the demand is the more important factor not the supply.

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The general market is already reacting to some positive bull run, I can't say it's solely USA-Iran face off because there will be no war anymore. This halving that is coming up may be part of the many reasons why we are seeing some massive price growth, when we seems not to be expecting it soon.

Not expecting and just letting it be helps a lot to not put hype and FUD. It can only be because of halving but the effect is really seen that the price is indeed increasing, we need to still be updated so we can buy at lower price before halving took place.

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January 15, 2020, 07:18:35 AM
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It still depends on what will happen after the halving, i think the fate of bitcoin future is in the miners hands, there might be issue if miners get reduced, i know new asic miners will rise from the deep but will miners keep mining bitcoin even when the block reward has been cut in half?

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I think bitcoin halving will play an important role for crypto currency, we just saw it today on coinmarketcap.com almost all green altcoins for some reason we are heading for halving, we know bitcoin halving reduces the block reward is the same as reducing the number of bitcoins in circulation and printed every day, the less bitcoin is printed and the higher the demand it will obviously increase the price and the value of bitcoin itself will usually have an effect or impact on other crypto currencies
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January 15, 2020, 08:23:11 AM
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I think bitcoin halving will play an important role for crypto currency, we just saw it today on coinmarketcap.com almost all green altcoins for some reason we are heading for halving, we know bitcoin halving reduces the block reward is the same as reducing the number of bitcoins in circulation and printed every day, the less bitcoin is printed and the higher the demand it will obviously increase the price and the value of bitcoin itself will usually have an effect or impact on other crypto currencies
What if the opposite happens? If the less Bitcoin is printed and low in demand, I think the price of Bitcoin won't change if that's the case. Many people are sure that later after Halving the price of Bitcoin and other Altcoins will increase dramatically, but they forget if later it turns out that demand is getting lower because rewards given to Miners are reduced so Miners are reluctant to mining.

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January 15, 2020, 09:10:52 AM
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Certainly halving is very important to Bitcoin, Halving helps reduce the reward per block down and makes Bitcoin scarce. With the increasing demand of investors, but bitcoin is increasingly scarce, it will certainly help the price of bitcoin increase greatly. Like the previous two halving in the past, the price of bitcoin has risen sharply, so it is certain that this halving will also help bitcoin go up and we will see new ATH of bitcoin this year.
I also understand that this event is important and, as it means, this halving will make bitcoin more rare, especially when the demand for bitcoin is constantly increasing, it can is the starting point for the value of bitcoin to reach an historic milestone but usually, that's just the case when things are positive but this market too many problems can break the normal logic. I am not sure if halving will be an important contribution or it is just a net for fishes like us to plunge into, a lot of things are suspicious in halving

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January 15, 2020, 11:02:35 AM
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Of course, halving will have a positive impact on the market as the miners' rewards are reduced by half, this calls for caution coupled with the increasing difficulty level in bitcoin mining. People will sentimentally want to hoard their bitcoin creating some kind of scarcity and high demand resulting in a price hike.

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January 15, 2020, 11:37:30 AM
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Of course it's important because this will shape the overall psychology of the bitcoin market.
Creating a positive thing in the market due to a reduction in the circulation of bitcoin.
So that there is a possibility that prices will rise slowly. This has happened more than once since bitcoin existed.

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January 15, 2020, 12:49:44 PM
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if you look at block reward halving as a design to have a finite supply and a controlled supply distribution (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Controlled_supply) then yes, halving plays a very important role in the crypto world as the combination of having a cap and decreasing the reward is making it deflationary.
Well halving is designed for bitcoin to become the digital gold making it to the limit will make it stable if all were going to accumulate and it will going to be the highest in economic class. The deflationary aspect of bitcoin is given by that event on which the exact time and date of occurrence is still unsure but most of the estimation based on pattern of the past halving is on last week of May up to June.


but when you think of halving as a price pumper then no it has no role to play whatsoever. specifically not in crypto market as a whole. when speaking of the market, the demand is the more important factor not the supply.
price pumper? I guess it does since every halving follows by a high demand resulting the price to increase and I think the trendiness of bitcoin compare to the last halving that occurred in 2016 is way bigger than it is now so most probably that will going to have a massive impact on bitcoin price although 85% of total supply has been mined. Does it play a vital role? for me it's a YES.

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January 15, 2020, 01:14:05 PM
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Halving has a big role on the bitcoins price and in the crypto market because we all know that when halving happens, the supply of the bitcoin will be lessen in to half that will make the price of bitcoin to be controlled or manipulated. They are doing it to maintain the real price of bitcoin. But I guess, it will take 1 more year before halving will take effect.

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January 15, 2020, 01:20:11 PM
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People believe in halving so much. For sure it places important role. Maybe we even see great pump after it
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but when you think of halving as a price pumper then no it has no role to play whatsoever. specifically not in crypto market as a whole. when speaking of the market, the demand is the more important factor not the supply.
price pumper? I guess it does since every halving follows by a high demand resulting the price to increase and I think the trendiness of bitcoin compare to the last halving that occurred in 2016 is way bigger than it is now so most probably that will going to have a massive impact on bitcoin price although 85% of total supply has been mined. Does it play a vital role? for me it's a YES.

In my opinion, the opposite is true (if I understood you correctly.) With previous halvings, the impact on supply was much larger, because the difference in the reward was greater. The last halving made the biggest bull run because the popularity was huge. Now most people have heard about Bitcoin and most investors who were interested in high-risk investments lost through the two-year bear market. A slight difference in the reward in coming halving, i.e. a small impact on supply and less demand caused by losses after the last ATH, can make, that if there will be a bull run at all, will be much smaller than the last.

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January 15, 2020, 01:26:25 PM
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Halving has a big role on the bitcoins price and in the crypto market because we all know that when halving happens, the supply of the bitcoin will be lessen in to half that will make the price of bitcoin to be controlled or manipulated. They are doing it to maintain the real price of bitcoin. But I guess, it will take 1 more year before halving will take effect.

This is very hurtful to see being a long term holder if we wait for another year to see the effect of halving. If manipulation is there, then why it took so long to experience another green market to generate a good gains after all? Once the real price is met after corrections takes place, i believed it won't take longer as long as it establish a strong momentum.

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January 15, 2020, 01:37:57 PM
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This is very hurtful to see being a long term holder if we wait for another year to see the effect of halving. If manipulation is there, then why it took so long to experience another green market to generate a good gains after all? Once the real price is met after corrections takes place, i believed it won't take longer as long as it establish a strong momentum.

In the first place we will not be hurt because we consider ourselves to be long term hodlers, in such a case that the main reason we keep hodling is to wait for profits. I advise that if we plan to really achieve greater profits with the market, I suggest to have alloted money to invest, instead of trusting the market and not having enough funds to support ourselves. Bitcoin halving will serve just a support for growth of market and might just drive the price of bitcoin because of hype in a short term. Real profits will be received if we really wait for the market correction to happen.

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Sure, Halving is very important to bitcoin and this entire market. The price of Bitcoin increases after each halving, so the next halving will take place in May will certainly help bitcoin reach higher values. Right now Fomo has helped bitcoin reach $ 8700 and it will continue to increase in the near future. Until the halving begins, I believe that the price of Bitcoin will surpass ATH in 2019

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January 15, 2020, 01:45:47 PM
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Btc mining Block rewards will be decreased again, this means there will be more scarcity and lower rewards for miners, of cos this is an important momentum in bitcoin life cycle, the halving hype is already spreading on the internet and people are jumping in to buy bitcoin

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~snip~

The article is very interesting, especially the article when it says:

 
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This attribute of Bitcoin accounts for its perfectly inelastic supply and with halving at periodic intervals, the rate of growth in supply will decrease with every passing event until 2140.
https://www.etorox.com/news/opinions/understanding-the-effects-of-bitcoin-halving/

I think that as the reward is reduced the value of Bitcoin for simple Offer-Demand will rise, the Halving effect may begin to be seen from now on, the interest in Investors can be reflected in the Hodl mode, it is necessary to highlight that the New ATH looks very promising.

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~snip~

The article is very interesting, especially the article when it says:

 
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This attribute of Bitcoin accounts for its perfectly inelastic supply and with halving at periodic intervals, the rate of growth in supply will decrease with every passing event until 2140.
https://www.etorox.com/news/opinions/understanding-the-effects-of-bitcoin-halving/

I think that as the reward is reduced the value of Bitcoin for simple Offer-Demand will rise, the Halving effect may begin to be seen from now on, the interest in Investors can be reflected in the Hodl mode, it is necessary to highlight that the New ATH looks very promising.

Of course, I have high hopes, like everyone, but in the post above I described some doubts:

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A slight difference in the reward in coming halving, i.e. a small impact on supply and less demand caused by losses after the last ATH, can make, that if there will be a bull run at all, will be much smaller than the last.

I hope that I am wrong and after this halving the demand will be even higher than after the previous one, but I am not 100% sure that it will be so.

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January 15, 2020, 02:53:30 PM
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This is very hurtful to see being a long term holder if we wait for another year to see the effect of halving. If manipulation is there, then why it took so long to experience another green market to generate a good gains after all? Once the real price is met after corrections takes place, i believed it won't take longer as long as it establish a strong momentum.
the effect of one year after Halving always looks like an iceberg, if everything happens this year then speculation will experience the end point of price saturation, this is far more worrying because the market also wants sustainable prices with a rally that continues to be measured, but there is indeed one thing that will make the movement more quickly meet momentum such as strong fundamentals stemming from government sentiment.
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January 15, 2020, 03:18:24 PM
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Sure, Halving is very important to bitcoin and this entire market. The price of Bitcoin increases after each halving, so the next halving will take place in May will certainly help bitcoin reach higher values. Right now Fomo has helped bitcoin reach $ 8700 and it will continue to increase in the near future. Until the halving begins, I believe that the price of Bitcoin will surpass ATH in 2019
Halving plays a huge role into ensuring that bitcoin is alive  and good aside from the fact that it draws in more people to invest in bitcoin. It's pretty much like advertising by bitcoin which when people catch wind of, would definitely encourage them into investing in bitcoin.

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yes This year halving is expected in May, and surely it will pump the price higher this time also.  When the miners will be rewarded by half the number of bitcoins, by reducing this number the supply of coins will be decreased and this will increase the demand of it in the market. This Increase in demand will lead to sharp increase in price. History will be repeated and halving will take Bitcoin higher.

 
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yes This year halving is expected in May, and surely it will pump the price higher this time also.  When the miners will be rewarded by half the number of bitcoins, by reducing this number the supply of coins will be decreased and this will increase the demand of it in the market. This Increase in demand will lead to sharp increase in price. History will be repeated and halving will take Bitcoin higher.
This is true thats why halving season is very important to us. Everybody is preparing for that season and also everybody is expecting for a good income after the halving because what you have said right after the halving season, the demand will incrrase thats why the price of the bitcoin and other coins will be pump and rise. In that season is the best time to encourage people in joining crypto world because the price of the coin is at its highest peak.
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yes This year halving is expected in May, and surely it will pump the price higher this time also.  When the miners will be rewarded by half the number of bitcoins, by reducing this number the supply of coins will be decreased and this will increase the demand of it in the market. This Increase in demand will lead to sharp increase in price. History will be repeated and halving will take Bitcoin higher.
This is true thats why halving season is very important to us. Everybody is preparing for that season and also everybody is expecting for a good income after the halving because what you have said right after the halving season, the demand will incrrase thats why the price of the bitcoin and other coins will be pump and rise. In that season is the best time to encourage people in joining crypto world because the price of the coin is at its highest peak.
I believe that everyone is learning how the previous halving did great to the market. The hopes will soon to be real as we all think of the positive results about the event. We're trying not to be excited but the current market trend pushes as to believe.

Does halving places a big role in the crypto market? Absolutely it was and we can't deny how it makes a change turning into good.
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In that season is the best time to encourage people in joining crypto world because the price of the coin is at its highest peak.

Encouraging people at the peak price is one of the worst scenarios for newbies, who get first blindfolded by greed, and then panicking during correction/bear market. One of the easiest ways to actually make people cryptocurrency environment is just a bunch of scammers.

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January 16, 2020, 07:50:33 AM
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I think bitcoin halving will play an important role for crypto currency, we just saw it today on coinmarketcap.com almost all green altcoins for some reason we are heading for halving, we know bitcoin halving reduces the block reward is the same as reducing the number of bitcoins in circulation and printed every day, the less bitcoin is printed and the higher the demand it will obviously increase the price and the value of bitcoin itself will usually have an effect or impact on other crypto currencies
What if the opposite happens? If the less Bitcoin is printed and low in demand, I think the price of Bitcoin won't change if that's the case. Many people are sure that later after Halving the price of Bitcoin and other Altcoins will increase dramatically, but they forget if later it turns out that demand is getting lower because rewards given to Miners are reduced so Miners are reluctant to mining.
it's just a speculation that various possibilities could occur, do you understand what I mean, the demand does not come to the needs but it could be due to the buyer's push for long-term investment, but no one knows much, you also speculate if it happens otherwise, so there is no who knows for sure but many possibilities that lead to what I think
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It was explained here https://www.etorox.com/news/opinions/understanding-the-effects-of-bitcoin-halving/

Reading at that article, it all has a positive effect to the market.  And I believe it so, in fact, the long-term effect of halving to the market price will help the traders to have a sustainable market gain and for the economic growth of crypto. Then I supposed to think that for a long bearish season there is something that could help to stop and that is how HALVING can do. And I'll find out that this will be the best solution that we must have and not just procuring of having stable coins or a centralized market.

Halving not just plays an important role in a growing market we have but it is very important to acquire.

I agree Bitcoin halving event does have an important role in the crypto market.  With this event, hype and excitement of Bitcoin market relive.  It gives holders and non-holders reasons to acquire more Bitcoin because it reminds us that Bitcoin is a deflationary currency that may increase in value over time due to the law of supply and demand.  Aside from that, this even brings more investors to cryptocurrency market for the same reason.

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January 22, 2020, 03:00:08 AM
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yes This year halving is expected in May, and surely it will pump the price higher this time also.  When the miners will be rewarded by half the number of bitcoins, by reducing this number the supply of coins will be decreased and this will increase the demand of it in the market. This Increase in demand will lead to sharp increase in price. History will be repeated and halving will take Bitcoin higher.
This is true thats why halving season is very important to us. Everybody is preparing for that season and also everybody is expecting for a good income after the halving because what you have said right after the halving season, the demand will incrrase thats why the price of the bitcoin and other coins will be pump and rise. In that season is the best time to encourage people in joining crypto world because the price of the coin is at its highest peak.
I believe that everyone is learning how the previous halving did great to the market. The hopes will soon to be real as we all think of the positive results about the event. We're trying not to be excited but the current market trend pushes as to believe.

Does halving places a big role in the crypto market? Absolutely it was and we can't deny how it makes a change turning into good.
as explained in the article given by the OP, the half bitcoin event will recur every 4 years, if so, then of course it will place an important role in the crypto market especially regarding price movements after being reduced by half then bitcoin will experience a significant price increase
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January 22, 2020, 04:49:33 AM
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yes you are right halving day is very important for the development of bitcoin. and this is an effective way to make the price of bitcoin increase. and also with halving can attract new investors to join and invest in bitcoin. and the presence of halving also pushed to enter the bull market. halving day that happens every 4 years gives us the opportunity to make a profit after a few years in the bear market.

 
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January 22, 2020, 05:01:20 AM
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yes you are right halving day is very important for the development of bitcoin. and this is an effective way to make the price of bitcoin increase. and also with halving can attract new investors to join and invest in bitcoin. and the presence of halving also pushed to enter the bull market. halving day that happens every 4 years gives us the opportunity to make a profit after a few years in the bear market.
Yes you are right thats why everybody is excited about the halving season. There is a lot of benefits that we can get from that particular season. It can help our economic growth because of the price inflation. And also those people who hoard a lot of coins will be more possibly rich. And yes we can encourage a lot of people to join and I think this is possible because of the price inflation on that time.
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I often wonder what were the conversation prior to the previous halving and did the predictions come true.
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Very important for Bitcoin growth. Since bitcoin was created, we have experienced two halving before. And these two halving helped the value of Bitcoin grow strongly and directly helped bitcoin go up to $ 8700 now. Surely this year after halving, the price of bitcoin will increase the same as 2 times before, I expect something as big as 2017 and the price can surpass $ 20000 if possible.

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January 22, 2020, 06:44:49 AM
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but when you think of halving as a price pumper then no it has no role to play whatsoever. specifically not in crypto market as a whole. when speaking of the market, the demand is the more important factor not the supply.
price pumper? I guess it does since every halving follows by a high demand resulting the price to increase and I think the trendiness of bitcoin compare to the last halving that occurred in 2016 is way bigger than it is now so most probably that will going to have a massive impact on bitcoin price although 85% of total supply has been mined. Does it play a vital role? for me it's a YES.

i am not saying bitcoin price is not going to go up because of halving, i am saying it won't be pumped. there is a big difference.
a "pump" due to halving is what happened to LTC in its halving before the last. it got pumped hard by market manipulators and crashed hard right before halving and never recovered. a "rise" is what happens to bitcoin every halving, price goes up has a correction and then continues to to go up still after the halving.

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The speculated "pump" will happen because there will be less Bitcoins minted even after validating same number of transactions. Supply will not increase with the same speed but demand will. Its a great logic to fight with the inflation and the community surely know the after effects of this. I think we will be in the pumping 4 years of BTC after this halving.

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January 22, 2020, 07:00:25 AM
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Bitcoin's halving effect has two sides. For the good one, the price increases because of slower supply generation (only good for speculators). For the negative side, it discourages some miners because of 50% less profit (bull run doesn't immediately happen, and so some are discouraged because of cost-to-profit factors).

Another thing to note is that Bitcoin is deflationary, which makes it difficult to be a currency. If price steadily increases on the long-term chart, then Bitcoin would be only used as a platform for speculation rather than actual usability.
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but when you think of halving as a price pumper then no it has no role to play whatsoever. specifically not in crypto market as a whole. when speaking of the market, the demand is the more important factor not the supply.
price pumper? I guess it does since every halving follows by a high demand resulting the price to increase and I think the trendiness of bitcoin compare to the last halving that occurred in 2016 is way bigger than it is now so most probably that will going to have a massive impact on bitcoin price although 85% of total supply has been mined. Does it play a vital role? for me it's a YES.

i am not saying bitcoin price is not going to go up because of halving, i am saying it won't be pumped. there is a big difference.
a "pump" due to halving is what happened to LTC in its halving before the last. it got pumped hard by market manipulators and crashed hard right before halving and never recovered. a "rise" is what happens to bitcoin every halving, price goes up has a correction and then continues to to go up still after the halving.

We don't need any more pumping. Only thing desired is stable bitcoin price for its long term survival, pumping no doubt gives good return in short duration for day traders but it discourages other from crypto market. i am hopeful too that coin halving will increase price

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yes this halving tends to have a positive effect on bitcoin price for the long term if you look at the previous halving how price movements occur indirectly when halving occurs. the simple theory is that when there are fewer or fewer, it will be expensive. but it will impact the miners, some will probably give up and some will stick with the record they will withhold the results and not sell at low prices.
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There's a lot of misconception about halving. Halving is just the miners getting half of the rewards from mining and verifying blocks. Most people think that halving's purpose is to make Bitcoin and altcoin price surge, but its really not, its just that people realize that Bitcoin supply is limited so they tend to get carried away by the FOMO and buy alot. In every halving its not guaranteed that the price will really have a bullrun.

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yes this halving tends to have a positive effect on bitcoin price for the long term if you look at the previous halving how price movements occur indirectly when halving occurs. the simple theory is that when there are fewer or fewer, it will be expensive. but it will impact the miners, some will probably give up and some will stick with the record they will withhold the results and not sell at low prices.
Halving It really affects the price of Bitcoin, because Miners will only get 6.25 btc every 10 minutes after Halving later, so the level of difficulty will increase so as to make Bitcoin even rarer. When supply is small while demand is high then of course it will make the price increase.

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January 22, 2020, 08:17:09 AM
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halve aims to reduce the supply of bitcoin circulating in the market, half of events in the past have preceded a large increase in the price of bitcoin, and on the other hand the amount of demand also tends to increase or remain, so if new supply is circulating in the market if it cannot keep up with demand then it is very likely that the price of bitcoin will rise.

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January 22, 2020, 08:23:11 AM
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yes this halving tends to have a positive effect on bitcoin price for the long term if you look at the previous halving how price movements occur indirectly when halving occurs. the simple theory is that when there are fewer or fewer, it will be expensive. but it will impact the miners, some will probably give up and some will stick with the record they will withhold the results and not sell at low prices.
Halving It really affects the price of Bitcoin, because Miners will only get 6.25 btc every 10 minutes after Halving later, so the level of difficulty will increase so as to make Bitcoin even rarer. When supply is small while demand is high then of course it will make the price increase.
Will the fee of transaction increase with the decreasing miner income? because if it doesn't increase, many miners will die. only large mining companies might survive until bitcoin is depleted.
because the miner is very important to create a new block of each transaction, of course I worry if most of the losers and do not want to do mining.
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Halving plays a very important role in the bitcoin community. Firstly, it has a huge psychological effect on price. Bitcoin gets scarers and it is expected that in the long term the it will have a positive effect on price.

It also further goes to show the superiority of bitcoin over fiat currencies, unlike fiat currencies, that prints more notes yearly, bitcoin mines fewer coins every 4years.
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January 22, 2020, 09:50:20 AM
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It obviously has a long-term impact on price, because price is always related to supply based on the supply and demand equation. The question is whether investors have priced in the halving long before the event. I am not sure, but because I am not a day trader or short-term investor the question is somewhat irrelevant to me. In the long run, without a doubt it affects price.
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January 22, 2020, 10:00:19 AM
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Halving of Bitcoin is a long-awaited event for investors, because they hope for an increase in the price of digital gold. At the same time, when the price of bitcoin increases, new investors interest in It increases. This means that Bitcoin is becoming more popular.



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January 22, 2020, 10:06:02 AM
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We don't know the future but we all know what happened during and after the first 2 halvenings. I believe it will remain the same - price surge about or right after the halvening to about 10-15K and one year later in 2021 a bullrun to 60-180K. of course a wise step would be to cash out prior to the peak price and buy the same amount of BTC when next 60-80% bottom comes. Most likely BTC will become more and more valuable over time so it is wise to accumulate when we can.
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January 22, 2020, 10:07:56 AM
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Halving of Bitcoin is a long-awaited event for investors, because they hope for an increase in the price of digital gold. At the same time, when the price of bitcoin increases, new investors interest in It increases. This means that Bitcoin is becoming more popular.

Yeah it's the basic logic of bitcoin halving that already held before, price must be increase because supply is less and bitcoin is harder to get.
So the demand must be increase because people are always hunted for something that are limited.
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January 22, 2020, 05:33:46 PM
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We don't know the future but we all know what happened during and after the first 2 halvenings. I believe it will remain the same - price surge about or right after the halvening to about 10-15K and one year later in 2021 a bullrun to 60-180K. of course a wise step would be to cash out prior to the peak price and buy the same amount of BTC when next 60-80% bottom comes. Most likely BTC will become more and more valuable over time so it is wise to accumulate when we can.
Many analysts predicted that, this time halving would lead to the positive increase in the value of Bitcoin, we cannot guess the exact price of rise but that would definitely be positive move for the market. One of the famous analyst predicted that the price will rise 100% in 2020. Bitcoin post results after halving will help to boost the economy and will help and favor the investors in many ways.
Almost investor always waiting with halving time of bitcoin because become most important moment how to get bitcoin touch with higher price, I think right now many possible profit with bitcoin halving because price can up suddenly with higher price and look profit keep continue for several months later.
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January 22, 2020, 05:58:53 PM
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Halving seem to simulate the gold supply in the world as well. Although there are still sources of gold everywhere, the cost to dig and mine those gold are just going to make gold more valuable. The important role of halving is for the economy not to over supply the market while halving also contributes on price spikes. We all know the price will go up even the new investors that are coming to crypto all for this purpose.

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January 22, 2020, 06:20:57 PM
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Historically the halving is a time when the price increases and continues an increase for about a year or more. But we’ve only had a couple of them to look at. I think with the block reward being reduced, it makes since that this is a time when the price will increase.

 
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