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January 20, 2020, 09:25:21 PM
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I know the forum recently got overwhelmed by the wave of newbies. All this warnings that we can take from the current thread dedicated to newbies who do not know how everything works here.
But let's ask ourselves, how many actual newbies from all of those newbies? I bet more than a half of those users already had accounts on the forum, but where banned by different reasons, I guess the main of them is trading of merits, which is actually turned into epidemic nowadays, just because of everyone desire to become a higher ranked member to earn more from posting and commercial.
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January 20, 2020, 09:52:24 PM
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These things will only disappear considerably once more severe punishments and rules on the forum are implemented. Accounts with sh*tty 1-2 line replies which are obviously just there to increase their post count should be getting punished with 4 steps:

1. Warning
2. Temporary ban (24-48h)
3. Temporary ban (1-2 weeks)
4. Permanent ban

Hopefully this reply doesn't qualify as an off-topic, I'm talking about punishments in order to increase the % of trusted and legit members.

That'll never happen for posting straightforward junk. Too much work for starters.

The punishment is that if you're shit you'll never make any progress. Eventually that'll sink in and people will either leave or start to put some effort in. That's also starting to happen with senior accounts as well. The decent sig campaigns are demanding a certain amount of earned merit no matter what your rank is.

The merit and ranking system is far from ideal, I'd prefer to see it less demanding lower down, but it will eventually cut off most of the oxygen to the hopeless zombies out there and reward the people who make this place better.
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January 20, 2020, 10:05:13 PM
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That'll never happen for posting straightforward junk. Too much work for starters.

The punishment is that if you're shit you'll never make any progress. Eventually that'll sink in and people will either leave or start to put some effort in. That's also starting to happen with senior accounts as well. The decent sig campaigns are demanding a certain amount of earned merit no matter what your rank is.

The merit and ranking system is far from ideal, I'd prefer to see it less demanding lower down, but it will eventually cut off most of the oxygen to the hopeless zombies out there and reward the people who make this place better.

100% agree with you, no comment. The forum sections are looking better than they did in 2017-2018 anyways, there is improvement and I can't deny it. The dozen/hundred-pages megathreads filled with crappy posts are now less visible (they were scary, lol), and most junk accounts are now around the Newbie ranks which shows how much they're starting to lose power overall. I'm starting to ignore these useless accounts now, just to make sure I'll have them even less visible than before on my side.
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January 20, 2020, 10:14:35 PM
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That'll never happen for posting straightforward junk. Too much work for starters.
I guess it really is too much work, as there is a forum rule against spamming especially when one is wearing a signature.
Staff do not want to hand out bans for unconstructive posts but if we feel that you as a user are continually making very poor or unsubstantial posts due to your paid signature the following bans will be issued:

First offense: 7 days
Second offense: 14 days
Third offense: 30 days
Fourth: Permanent ban
But I can't remember anyone getting banned for this recently. While the ranking system works fine, there are already lots of accounts with merits (bought or airdropped) that are around the forum and sufficient to generate lots of spam to adversely affect the forum.

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January 21, 2020, 10:18:46 AM
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I've unfortunately been influenced by the opportunity to earn some cryptos by joining campaigns too before, and I know what it's like to post just for that reason. Made my own mistakes, hopefully those will be changed for the better. These opportunities on this forum have been turned negatively into alts & useless posts and threads.
I had the opposite effect on my account. I joined campaigns without realizing what to post and in order to post or to answer queries I was in need of content which significantly paved way for learning a lot about bitcoin. If we know something about bitcoin and the market, we won't be spamming!

Learn a lot, post what you know, never repeat the same stuff which others have already said, educate others with your knowledge on bitcoin and I would say if everyone on this forum follow this, none will spam to an extent...

I joined this forum in one of the worst times (start of 2018) where spam was almost uncontrollable and people were posting even without knowing the intention behind what they were posting about. Each legit account (which isn't bought) is completely like a newborn baby out here (regardless of the account owner age in real life) and I grew up in this forum in one of the shittiest times learning all the shits from so called Sr accounts and was driven off in a wrong way. But to the contrary one who got to register here at the 2013-2014 era didn't really face any hardships and had learned all their way since majority of the old users from 2010 still had a stay here.

Hopefully I got to realize the purpose of this forum exactly after 2-3 months of registration. This is certainly the most important times when a newbie tends to realize their mistakes in the crypto world and start pumping out their potential to learn almost everything. I started with learning about the technical aspects of some altcoins and slowly moved to bitcoin. I would say this transition should happen in most of the newbies roaming out here in this forum and crypto on the whole, but the spammers and shitposters (bounty hunters from 2017-2018 era) never had this transition and were still the shittiest people here on the forum. I always had a list of forum accounts which I got to read a lot from the early times of my registration and most of them have left due to the subliminal failure of Altcoins.
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January 21, 2020, 10:41:03 AM
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But to the contrary one who got to register here at the 2013-2014 era didn't really face any hardships and had learned all their way since majority of the old users from 2010 still had a stay here.

If you'd arrived here in 2014/15 you would've been subjected to an army of psycho bears attempting to scare you into running away. They were a lot more relentless and malevolent than any common or garden google translate zombie that came later. There was no equivalent to them in 2018 as they must have realised preaching Bitcoin's guaranteed death would look laughable by that point.
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January 21, 2020, 10:42:00 AM
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I joined this forum in one of the worst times (start of 2018) where spam was almost uncontrollable and people were posting even without knowing the intention behind what they were posting about.

From your perspective, the beginning of 2018 may have looked bad, but I have been a member of this forum since mid-2015, and before that I have been a guest for at least a year. Back then, there were signature campaigns that did not have managers but bots that counted posts (old yobit/bitmixer). I can tell you from personal experience that it was a much worse spam time than in 2018. At that time the accounts were still selling without any consequences, and it was a golden age for fraudsters who scam so many users with green trust Legendary/Hero accounts.

Much has changed for the better, but this forum is still the ideal platform for various types of fraud, of which we can only protect ourselves if we use common sense.

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