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January 20, 2020, 10:05:50 AM
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I am thinking of 30% in stock, 30% in fund, 40% in Bitcoin.

How about this ratio? Any thought?
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January 20, 2020, 10:11:57 AM
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What funds and what stocks?

Regarding crypto, the more investments you have in Bitcoin compared to other Altcoins the better for you. If you take a look at the following graph you will notice that from JAN 2018 Bitcoin's market dominance has constantly been going up from 34% - 67%.
https://coinmarketcap.com/charts/#dominance-percentage

This means that more and more investors trust and invest in Bitcoin while the investments in Altcoins are on a constant downtrend.

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January 20, 2020, 10:14:09 AM
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Depends mostly on your own risk tolerance. Even as little as 5%-10% can increase your return considerably while keeping risk relatively low. Only thing to keep in mind is that alts are usually a losing bet, as Pmalek already pointed out.

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January 20, 2020, 10:20:32 AM
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I am thinking of 30% in stock, 30% in fund, 40% in Bitcoin.

How about this ratio? Any thought?
if i were you i will put 50% to bitcoin and the other 50% will be divided to other investment.
Well your choice is still not bad 40% i think is enough to start investing in bitcoin.

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January 20, 2020, 10:23:17 AM
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First determine the best price you would like to buy, and determine the best price for selling. Try to wait for those prices.

If you want to go for 30 / 30 / 40, I would recommend to split the last 40 into 30 for Bitcoin, and 10 for Alt projects. There is a lot of opportunity in Defi; Ethereum, Tezos, ... also staking projects like Livepeer.
Then split your allocations into 2% parts, enter each market with a 2% share of each respective allocation, and test the waters. If you're comfortable, add 2% on a dip. (trends are generally entered on a breakout, but this is risky in crypto due to the extreme volatility; I generally like to wait for a confirmation of support after a breakout, it is however possible to miss the big movements like in 2017 for example this way.)
Follow the trend until the weekly RSI is very overbought, before you consider selling. Also check the monthly RSI and MACD and compare with previous tops in the macro cycle. In case of Bitcoin, check the stock to flow model, and follow traders like Willy Woo on Twitter.

Good luck.

On a side note; stocks have never been more expensive in history, value compared to earnings, it's a 10 year old bull market, inside a 90 year old bull market, I'd be very careful there. Crypto is a very young bull market, and might be the next generational trade. (stocks were the generational trade of the sixties, meaning it was the biggest opportunity for that generation; internet/tech was the generational trade of the nineties, etc...)
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January 20, 2020, 10:25:52 AM
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This is a very decent sum for investing. My first rule is always to divide and mitigate possible risk so don't invest everything at one place.
Everything depends on your plans and goals, also risk apetite but at your place U would invest about half of that sum into Bitcoin. The rest I would put into something else but not cryptocurrencies, totaly different type of investment.

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January 20, 2020, 10:36:53 AM
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it is not something that random people on a forum can help you with! this is not a place to get specialized financial advice. not to mention that it depends on a ton of different factors. like is this capital your entire net-worth or is it like pocket money and you don't care if it was lost? how much risk you are willing to take? how familiar are you with all these markets you named?

what you do can be different for each person in different countries! for instance where i live, the stock market is currently booming so a higher investment could result in a good return but i am not familiar with the market and i don't like it that much so i don't even go near it.

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January 20, 2020, 10:40:27 AM
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I am thinking of 30% in stock, 30% in fund, 40% in Bitcoin.

How about this ratio? Any thought?
I do not understand what you mean, in stock and in funds, where you trade, what you use leverage trading, in bitcoin trading without leverage is not the same as forex trading where we must have funds as collateral, in my opinion trading on bitcoin or other popular coins, and avoid new altcoins.
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January 20, 2020, 10:43:03 AM
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I am thinking of 30% in stock, 30% in fund, 40% in Bitcoin.

How about this ratio? Any thought?

I make that easy for you. You can buy 1 bitcoin and hold the rest of the money without buying altcoins. By doing that, you don't have to fear with the fluctuating bitcoin price, and you don't have to confuse on trading. You can use your time to do many things, or you can use your time to work in your real life.

But you can use the rest money to buy altcoin to investing besides bitcoin, but you need to find a low price before you buy so you don't feel worried if the price is down.

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January 20, 2020, 10:48:02 AM
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With that huge money, I will go for BTC at once. only in BTC, you can have a higher percentage of safe investment if you have patient enough to wait for the slight bull run. with that lot of money in your hands, I'm sure you will have a hard time focusing to hold it for too long. after you will see some price hike after you buy some Bitcoins, the best thing to do is sell it as soon as possible. like most of the holder does.

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January 20, 2020, 10:48:20 AM
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It depends on you. But if I have that amount I would buy one whole bitcoin at like 6-7kish price and just hold it while I will use the remaining for forex and altcoin trading. That is the best for me but it varies per person some might go on stocks and bonds like you, it is really up to you on where you are confident in investing.

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January 20, 2020, 10:49:03 AM
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I am thinking of 30% in stock, 30% in fund, 40% in Bitcoin.

How about this ratio? Any thought?
You can expect a better answer if you give more details about what the purpose of your investment is and your risk profile. If you're ok with some risk on crypto, I think it's a well-balanced portfolio. You can further diversify your stock picks for better risk management. I wouldn't expect crazy growth though as stock and bond don't usually grow as fast as crypto in a bull run.

If you think that the 2020 halving will fuel another bull run and ok with high risk, go all-in on Bitcoin.

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January 20, 2020, 10:57:56 AM
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I am thinking of 30% in stock, 30% in fund, 40% in Bitcoin.

How about this ratio? Any thought?
I still think it's quite risky to invest in stocks.  Currently, the world debt is very large and political chaos is constantly happening, I am afraid that in the future businesses will be seriously affected.  So investing in businesses will be risky right now.  I think that 30% should be invested in bitcoin or gold and hold it for a long time, its price will increase sharply.



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January 20, 2020, 11:11:41 AM
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This completely depends on you, and can only be answered by you.

The factors involved in making these types of decisions are as follows:

  • Age
  • Responsibilities
  • Whether you have debt or not
  • Risk tolerance
  • Holding duration
  • And then some

Obviously, since you haven't provided these information, only you know the answer.

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When it comes to investing in crypto, the first thing is to figure out what you are getting into, not just literally what coin, but how you will keep those coins safe. The dumbest move would be to invest $3000 in BTC and leave everything on crypto-exchange, and the best you can do is to invest in a hardware wallet (Ledger or Trezor - $50+).

Regarding ratio, it is smart to not put all in the same basket, but that decision is up to you. I personally think this and next year will be very good in terms of rising BTC prices, but don't take this as financial advice since BTC is a very risky investment.

I think you have a much bigger problem with stock selection and funds, and how smart that investment is given the recession that has been knocking on our door for some time, only time can tell.

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I am thinking of 30% in stock, 30% in fund, 40% in Bitcoin.

How about this ratio? Any thought?

The only thing I will suggest regarding crypto investment is that first learn it and then invest. People have lost enormous money by invsting huge money without having a clear understanding of the crypto market.
Stocks are less volatile and give less profit/loss as compared to crypto.
Fund? which funds are you referring to mutual funds?

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January 20, 2020, 11:45:05 AM
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I am thinking of 30% in stock, 30% in fund, 40% in Bitcoin.

How about this ratio? Any thought?

It doesn't matter if you have 10k, 100k, 100000k
I would never invest more than 10% in bitcoin.

You can lit 10% and it become 40%, that's ok. But going 40% is very aggressive.

Bt is highly volatile and it may crash back to 3000. Are you ready for that?

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January 20, 2020, 11:47:43 AM
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Well in my case, as long as I do not need the money in the future, I would invest it on cryptocurrency because there is a chance that the value of it will become higher than before. If you think that you need your money sooner or later, you should not invest it since the bitcoin or crypto is a type of long term investment. You cannot just sell it right after you bought it because you might lose your money/income.

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January 20, 2020, 11:51:33 AM
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OP, you started this thread--where did you disappear to?  The question was asked what you meant by "fund" and I'm curious about that as well.  If you mean mutual funds, that's basically the same thing as stocks.  I don't know why members create threads like this and then just vanish.

If you're young, like in your 20s, 40% in bitcoin might be viable but even then it's extremely risky and I probably wouldn't put that much into crypto regardless of your age.  I would probably invest 80% in stocks (and an index fund wouldn't be a bad way to go) and 20% in bitcoin--and I'd stay away from altcoins, too, if your total investment is $10k.  No need to make that crypto component any more risky than it has to be.

It doesn't matter if you have 10k, 100k, 100000k
I would never invest more than 10% in bitcoin.
That's probably a wise choice.  My 20% recommendation was probably too much, but that reflects my belief in it.

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January 20, 2020, 11:53:15 AM
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With that huge money, I will go for BTC at once. only in BTC, you can have a higher percentage of safe investment if you have patient enough to wait for the slight bull run. with that lot of money in your hands, I'm sure you will have a hard time focusing to hold it for too long. after you will see some price hike after you buy some Bitcoins, the best thing to do is sell it as soon as possible. like most of the holder does.

I don't advise to invest the whole amount in BTC at once because we know that bitcoin can be very unpredictable at times and the price isn't always good as well so it is not practical to use all the money to invest in Bitcoin but you can give bitcoin the highest percentage, say, 50% of it is for bitcoin and the remaining 50% of the money you can invest on some other investments, it could be to stocks or funds.

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