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February 07, 2020, 01:25:13 AM
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Mexico could raffle his presidential plane, the idea is to sell 6M tickets of $25 dollars each one, and the winner gets a presidential plane evaluated in $130 million.

This crazy idea is because the Mexican president wan to sell the plane to spend the money on other projects.

What do you think would you buy a ticket?

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https://robbreport.com/motors/aviation/mexico-may-raffle-off-presidential-plane-2893600/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/17/mexico-amlo-presidential-plane-raffle
Well, for me this is a sort of easy way to raise a funds to spend to other projects a good intention for the president. By doing math the total amount of the sale for the presidential plane would a huge profit, and i'm thinking about who are willing to to buy that ticket to take their chance to win the plane.
who knows what is the deal behind this?who can assure us that the money will be used for other project?and like what other poster said above having a Presidential plane saves the government Lots of money whenever they are travelling because he(the president) must be accompanied by many delegation and for sure he wont be flying by Himself so the reality about selling to spend in other project is questionable.
If ever, i would only buy one ticket for it and if i won, selling it is the best option for me i don't even think about using it its a luxurious plane and costly when it comes to maintenance selling it and use the money to spend onto other things would be a great idea. I knew some other will going to buy many tickets to have a better chance they can afford it.
if lucky to win,then you can even Rent the plane because that can be a bread and butter as this is a transportation thing the only problem is how to maintain and secure the plane by simple people?
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February 07, 2020, 02:52:26 AM
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If ever, i would only buy one ticket for it and if i won, selling it is the best option for me i don't even think about using it its a luxurious plane and costly when it comes to maintenance selling it and use the money to spend onto other things would be a great idea. I knew some other will going to buy many tickets to have a better chance they can afford it.
if lucky to win,then you can even Rent the plane because that can be a bread and butter as this is a transportation thing the only problem is how to maintain and secure the plane by simple people?

Even if he rent the plane, he needs to have rich people potential customer who will rent the plane, and he should have a busy day to travel from one country to another country. I am not sure that he can find that customer since not all rich people want to rent the plane because they prefer to buy the plane by themselves.

The best thing that people can do if they win that plane is selling back to the government, but they cannot sell it as a high price because if they sell it too high, the government won't try to buy that plane. They only have 2 years to find the potential buyer to sell that plane, but if they cannot find the buyer, then they need to think about the fee of the plane.
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February 07, 2020, 03:09:50 AM
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Selling is the best thing to do if ever you won that presidential plane.

The maintenance is quite expensive to keep it for an ordinary citizen. But since the ticket only cost $25 its a big reward winning the plane.

The best thing that people can do if they win that plane is selling back to the government, but they cannot sell it as a high price because if they sell it too high, the government won't try to buy that plane.
Well even they buy it in cheaper price it will be acceptable since you only spend few dollars for the ticket to be able to win that plane.

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February 07, 2020, 03:18:37 AM
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Mexico could raffle his presidential plane, the idea is to sell 6M tickets of $25 dollars each one, and the winner gets a presidential plane evaluated in $130 million.

This crazy idea is because the Mexican president wan to sell the plane to spend the money on other projects.

What do you think would you buy a ticket?

Sources:
https://robbreport.com/motors/aviation/mexico-may-raffle-off-presidential-plane-2893600/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/17/mexico-amlo-presidential-plane-raffle
Well, for me this is a sort of easy way to raise a funds to spend to other projects a good intention for the president. By doing math the total amount of the sale for the presidential plane would a huge profit, and i'm thinking about who are willing to to buy that ticket to take their chance to win the plane.
who knows what is the deal behind this?who can assure us that the money will be used for other project?and like what other poster said above having a Presidential plane saves the government Lots of money whenever they are travelling because he(the president) must be accompanied by many delegation and for sure he wont be flying by Himself so the reality about selling to spend in other project is questionable.
If ever, i would only buy one ticket for it and if i won, selling it is the best option for me i don't even think about using it its a luxurious plane and costly when it comes to maintenance selling it and use the money to spend onto other things would be a great idea. I knew some other will going to buy many tickets to have a better chance they can afford it.
if lucky to win,then you can even Rent the plane because that can be a bread and butter as this is a transportation thing the only problem is how to maintain and secure the plane by simple people?
I didn't even know, but I guess the OP knews it and he based it from other news.

You're right, it is questionable where does the president will spend the money in the first place it is a property and money from the government.

Absolutely, thanks for another good idea as it will give a passive income than thinking where to spend the money if i'm going to sell the plane and have a business. That's the only problem to maintain it since it was a luxury, there should be a certain rules to be added to the passengers and to keep the workers to check the plane regularly as long as i can pay them.
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February 07, 2020, 03:43:18 AM
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Selling is the best thing to do if ever you won that presidential plane.

The maintenance is quite expensive to keep it for an ordinary citizen. But since the ticket only cost $25 its a big reward winning the plane.

The best thing that people can do if they win that plane is selling back to the government, but they cannot sell it as a high price because if they sell it too high, the government won't try to buy that plane.
Well even they buy it in cheaper price it will be acceptable since you only spend few dollars for the ticket to be able to win that plane.
for sure Buyers are already in place even before the raffle starts or maybe the government itself will offer to buy the plane again.
there are many scenarios can happen because the motive of the event is also questionable for why it needs to be sell or raffled when each presidents need a private plane when travelling abroad,it is not only because they can safe a lot but also the safeties and security of president and His whole delegation as for sure prominent people will be with Him every trip.

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February 07, 2020, 03:53:00 AM
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I find some interesting lines into this article.https://nypost.com/2020/02/03/mexican-president-wants-to-raffle-off-his-plane/

Mexican president do make such lottery or raffle to distract from Mexico's record homicide rate and violence and also this,
It says the ticket fee of $25 will go toward medical equipment and hospitals offering free care for the poor.

Do you really buy on that reason?


If this really happens and all the collected money goes in a good cause, there is nothing better than that. The idea of Mexican president is not only interesting but also it made many people surprised that such an idea could come from the president house.  Smiley

Do anyone knows, has this lottery been started and when the draw will be done ? I would really love to know how many people participated and who was the lucky winner.


This is indeed a nice way to get money to help a country collect funds without losing anything in reality and the plane will be bought back with profit. When people will know that the amount collected will be used to help the poor and the needy, many will join the lottery, even they had no interest in the prize.
Don't know about the exact date but i read 15 Feb.
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He said he’ll make a final decision on the drawing Feb. 15.

I doubt he will sell out 6 million tickets by then, so he will probably end up giving the plane away for a lot less than it's worth.

It would have been much more efficient to simply sell the plane at an auction, to a chart company or even an airline company.

He would probably have raised more money that way, and hence made more money to pour into healthcare/schools etc.

I do agree to this to some extent. Airplane is a very expensive item and there are possibilities that this plan may fail. But the idea is good. If he could apply the same to any of the presidential car or any other precious belonging, the results could be far better and many more people will be interested to get those things which are easy to maintain.

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February 07, 2020, 04:25:19 AM
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The best thing that people can do if they win that plane is selling back to the government, but they cannot sell it as a high price because if they sell it too high, the government won't try to buy that plane.
Even me, if I will have it or won it, I would rather sell it, just imaging I just only bet a small amount like $25 then I will get that plane cost millions its been a 10000000x the amount I release, this would be a a hard to win thing since many people wanted it, but I will still try my luck, because I am very lucky in raffle and such lottery, there is not bad in just trying.

Even if he rent the plane, he needs to have rich people potential customer who will rent the plane, and he should have a busy day to travel from one country to another country. I am not sure that he can find that customer since not all rich people want to rent the plane because they prefer to buy the plane by themselves.
The best thing that people can do if they win that plane is selling back to the government, but they cannot sell it as a high price because if they sell it too high, the government won't try to buy that plane. They only have 2 years to find the potential buyer to sell that plane, but if they cannot find the buyer, then they need to think about the fee of the plane.
Yes , there will be a huge amount of earning as well when you will make that plane for rent , I think it is more good to do that, it could be a long term investment, will consider this one as well , when I won that plane.

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February 07, 2020, 05:06:06 AM
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The best thing that people can do if they win that plane is selling back to the government, but they cannot sell it as a high price because if they sell it too high, the government won't try to buy that plane.
Even me, if I will have it or won it, I would rather sell it, just imaging I just only bet a small amount like $25 then I will get that plane cost millions its been a 10000000x the amount I release, this would be a a hard to win thing since many people wanted it, but I will still try my luck, because I am very lucky in raffle and such lottery, there is not bad in just trying.

Even if he rent the plane, he needs to have rich people potential customer who will rent the plane, and he should have a busy day to travel from one country to another country. I am not sure that he can find that customer since not all rich people want to rent the plane because they prefer to buy the plane by themselves.
The best thing that people can do if they win that plane is selling back to the government, but they cannot sell it as a high price because if they sell it too high, the government won't try to buy that plane. They only have 2 years to find the potential buyer to sell that plane, but if they cannot find the buyer, then they need to think about the fee of the plane.
Yes , there will be a huge amount of earning as well when you will make that plane for rent , I think it is more good to do that, it could be a long term investment, will consider this one as well , when I won that plane.
I think you can sell it for a high price even though some people/ the government itself will offer that is almost very low compare to the plane itself. The plane cost is 130M$ I think Selling it for 10M-50M is not a bad price considering that you just win it for a 25$. Personally, If someone offer me 10M for that plane I will sell it right away as long all the tax is paid and I will get an exact 10M$, like it or hate it, it's a jackpot and it's a freaking Million Dollars, so yeah! it's not bad and I think I will participate in this kind of raffle or somehow lottery  Grin

I just have some question in my mind, why does their country want to sell/raffle their presidential plane? If they are going to replace it then, good for them! But if not, that would be a huge loss for them, every country should have a presidential plane, and it's one of the needs of every president.

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February 07, 2020, 06:56:31 PM
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Ok, today we have a huge update about the topic. The Mexican president decides to make for this a reality or kind of...

To explain this i will talk in Mexican Pesos, so, remember 1 dollar = 20 pesos.

Today AMLO (Mexican President) decide to make raffle and he doit public, but he changes the rules of the game:


As you can see in the ticker, there will be 100 winners of $20,000,000 pesos. And there will be a total of 6,000,000 tickets $500 each ticket.

So, the total amount to get from this raffle is $3,000,000,000 Pesos, $2B will be to pay the 100 winners, and the other $1B will be for the plain maintenance in the next 2 years, hospital equipment and other stuff.

No one will win a presidential plane, only the value of the plain... For me, this sounds like a big scam. What do you think guys?

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February 07, 2020, 07:32:42 PM
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Ok, today we have a huge update about the topic. The Mexican president decides to make for this a reality or kind of...

To explain this i will talk in Mexican Pesos, so, remember 1 dollar = 20 pesos.

Today AMLO (Mexican President) decide to make raffle and he doit public, but he changes the rules of the game:



As you can see in the ticker, there will be 100 winners of $20,000,000 pesos. And there will be a total of 6,000,000 tickets $500 each ticket.

So, the total amount to get from this raffle is $3,000,000,000 Pesos, $2B will be to pay the 100 winners, and the other $1B will be for the plain maintenance in the next 2 years, hospital equipment and other stuff.

No one will win a presidential plane, only the value of the plain... For me, this sounds like a big scam. What do you think guys?

A little bit confusing due to that Mexican dollar conversions but as far as i understand
6M tickets would be sold out $500 each or this one is on mexican peso?

Good thing that they would give out or do having 100 winners but some question is that whose gonna own the plane?
or would still be on the posession of the government and do only ask out some have part of 1B peso in the lottery?

It do really sounds scam after all.

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February 07, 2020, 09:54:51 PM
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As an update to this lottery, Mexico abandoned the idea of raffling the presidential plane. It seems the president is aware of the reactions this lottery is getting from the internet.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/07/mexico-lopez-obrador-presidential-jet-raffle

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February 07, 2020, 10:23:59 PM
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A little bit confusing due to that Mexican dollar conversions but as far as i understand
6M tickets would be sold out $500 each or this one is on mexican peso?

Good thing that they would give out or do having 100 winners but some question is that whose gonna own the plane?
or would still be on the posession of the government and do only ask out some have part of 1B peso in the lottery?

It do really sounds scam after all.


6M tickets at $500 pesos each one, that's $25 dollars each ticket who can win a max of 20M pesos (That's 1M dollars each winner ticket.)

The plane will stay in hands of gov. an they will rent it, that's the idea.

As an update to this lottery, Mexico abandoned the idea of raffling the presidential plane. It seems the president is aware of the reactions this lottery is getting from the internet.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/07/mexico-lopez-obrador-presidential-jet-raffle

As the article say, and as i explain, the plain will not be the prize. People will win the value of the plain.

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February 07, 2020, 10:31:54 PM
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As an update to this lottery, Mexico abandoned the idea of raffling the presidential plane. It seems the president is aware of the reactions this lottery is getting from the internet.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/07/mexico-lopez-obrador-presidential-jet-raffle

As the article say, and as i explain, the plain will not be the prize. People will win the value of the plain.

As the article says the prize of this lottery will be divided into 100 winners. The actual prize pot of the lottery will be $100M which is not the actual price or value of the presidential plane. It is also stated the Navy will be holding the plane.

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February 07, 2020, 11:09:31 PM
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As an update to this lottery, Mexico abandoned the idea of raffling the presidential plane. It seems the president is aware of the reactions this lottery is getting from the internet.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/07/mexico-lopez-obrador-presidential-jet-raffle

As the article say, and as i explain, the plain will not be the prize. People will win the value of the plain.

As the article says the prize of this lottery will be divided into 100 winners. The actual prize pot of the lottery will be $100M which is not the actual price or value of the presidential plane. It is also stated the Navy will be holding the plane.
What a nice play, by that they even don't want to give the plane in the first place eh? Its way more understandable if they just bring an around the world tour with that plane.
100 winners = 1 Plane... LoL
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February 07, 2020, 11:10:24 PM
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As an update to this lottery, Mexico abandoned the idea of raffling the presidential plane. It seems the president is aware of the reactions this lottery is getting from the internet.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/07/mexico-lopez-obrador-presidential-jet-raffle

As the article say, and as i explain, the plain will not be the prize. People will win the value of the plain.

As the article says the prize of this lottery will be divided into 100 winners. The actual prize pot of the lottery will be $100M which is not the actual price or value of the presidential plane. It is also stated the Navy will be holding the plane.
They do alter the rules and i do see its much better rather than taking a single presidential plane. 100 winners is much preferable than 1
but they shouldnt hope that they would totally sell out 6m tickets which totally cost of $150M. .. 50M usd for maintenance isnt justifiable.

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February 08, 2020, 01:39:14 AM
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Ok, today we have a huge update about the topic. The Mexican president decides to make for this a reality or kind of...

To explain this i will talk in Mexican Pesos, so, remember 1 dollar = 20 pesos.

Today AMLO (Mexican President) decide to make raffle and he doit public, but he changes the rules of the game:

As you can see in the ticker, there will be 100 winners of $20,000,000 pesos. And there will be a total of 6,000,000 tickets $500 each ticket.

So, the total amount to get from this raffle is $3,000,000,000 Pesos, $2B will be to pay the 100 winners, and the other $1B will be for the plain maintenance in the next 2 years, hospital equipment and other stuff.

No one will win a presidential plane, only the value of the plain... For me, this sounds like a big scam. What do you think guys?
Yes as its sounds a money making for them. I have no doubt people will still try their luck and will buy a raffle ticket, The good thing is 100 people will be the winner which looks like a good odds for the people to be convinced.
I will not going to buy a ticket anymore also the price marks up
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February 08, 2020, 01:43:45 AM
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I think you can sell it for a high price even though some people/ the government itself will offer that is almost very low compare to the plane itself. The plane cost is 130M$ I think Selling it for 10M-50M is not a bad price considering that you just win it for a 25$. Personally, If someone offer me 10M for that plane I will sell it right away as long all the tax is paid and I will get an exact 10M$, like it or hate it, it's a jackpot and it's a freaking Million Dollars, so yeah! it's not bad and I think I will participate in this kind of raffle or somehow lottery  Grin

I just have some question in my mind, why does their country want to sell/raffle their presidential plane? If they are going to replace it then, good for them! But if not, that would be a huge loss for them, every country should have a presidential plane, and it's one of the needs of every president.

You can accept if people/the government offers to repurchase the plane before the two years free service is gone, so we don't have to think about the high cost for the service. Selling for $10M still huge money, and with that money, you can buy many things Grin

Perhaps, they want to get money for the country, so they make that lottery, and if someone from their country wins that plane, they can buy the plane at the cheap price. They offer 2 years of free service so people who win that plane can enjoy for that plane, and perhaps, they can travel to another place before they sell the plane.

But finally, we have an update.


Yes, I think that sounds a scam because they change the rule, but it makes sense if they give the plane value to the winner. But we don't know the real info behind that lottery. All in all, the government still got a lot of money from that lottery.

Rent the plane will be a good idea from the government because that can give a chance for their people to feel how to travel to another place with the presidential plane.
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February 08, 2020, 01:46:53 AM
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Win planet or ticket i dont undrestand ,
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February 08, 2020, 02:12:40 AM
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As an update to this lottery, Mexico abandoned the idea of raffling the presidential plane. It seems the president is aware of the reactions this lottery is getting from the internet.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/07/mexico-lopez-obrador-presidential-jet-raffle

This is better.

A lot of arguments for that plane, let the Navy handle the rest of it. In terms of the lottery, I think the $100M is better than one plane. The fact that they will be dividing that to the 100 winners is also good for me. Comparing the prize of one presidential plane to $100M divided into 100 winners, the latter is so much better.
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February 08, 2020, 03:07:27 PM
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As an update to this lottery, Mexico abandoned the idea of raffling the presidential plane. It seems the president is aware of the reactions this lottery is getting from the internet.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/07/mexico-lopez-obrador-presidential-jet-raffle

This is better.

A lot of arguments for that plane, let the Navy handle the rest of it. In terms of the lottery, I think the $100M is better than one plane. The fact that they will be dividing that to the 100 winners is also good for me. Comparing the prize of one presidential plane to $100M divided into 100 winners, the latter is so much better.
This is for me a good deal than the actual plane, the cost of the parking and maintenance will cost millions of dollars because of this it was widely criticized with ten people sharing the 100 million post is a good attraction, people will have a good chance to win than picking one winner only on this lottery.

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