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January 25, 2020, 05:41:57 PM
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Nobody knows you.

Aceeakell (alt account of Otto_diesel) tried to abuse the trust system.



It means; “Hello, I’m a DT2 member can you add me on your trust list.”

I would like to thank Bthd for showing courageous behavior by sending me this photo.



Begging for merit as he always did.


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January 25, 2020, 07:18:47 PM
Last edit: January 26, 2020, 01:10:59 AM by Blacknavy
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Otto_diesel tried to learn how much money that I earned by trading Bitcoin.





Just two months later, a newbie guy tried to learn where I live. He told me that he had won a university that is so close in my town. He must have been read my old posts.
Same guy tried to dox me by sending a phone number. I didn't call him. It was just a trap. He just tried to learn my phone number.
His (newbie guy) posted on the forum were ideologically very similar to me. This account has been created by someone who explicitly wants to know my identity.
He sent me 33 different PM. At the same time, Otto_diesel sent me 14 PM.






After I publish these images that you can see above, Otto threatened to harm me physically via private message.
According to Otto, he used violence against a Bitcointalk user who lived in Çanakkale/Turkey before.





That's why we wanted to be the default trust member in the Turkish local forum, but you constantly slander, you constantly defame us!
After all this bullshit, we don't even have a DT1 member because of your greedy behaviours.
We just voted for reliable members in this election but your mafia gave distrust all of our trusted members.
It doesn't matter anymore because I don't care.

You and your sweet friends are the authority here.
Enjoy.

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January 25, 2020, 08:49:44 PM
Last edit: January 25, 2020, 09:02:32 PM by marlboroza
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That's why we wanted to be the default trust member in the Turkish local forum
And yet "you" did literally nothing.

but you constantly slander, you constantly defame us!
After all this bullshit, we don't even have a DT1 member because of your greedy behaviours.
That is simple not true. All flags created by timelord are opposed by many members. I can't speak for others, just for myself, but I guess this is my greedy behavior:



Actually, dannybrown is the only member I voted for.

 Undecided

You just don't make any sense, you have made assumption for I don't know what reason and convinced yourself it is true. Well it isn't. Tell me one good reason why I was trolled back then when I exposed account which you are accusing now!

Edit: I just finish reading lauda's thread, looks like mutual accusation. I have no clue why you are changing behaviors.

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January 25, 2020, 09:08:27 PM
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I generally don't find it right for so many people who from the Turkish local forum to get negative trust. Whenever we try to do something good, some of us suffer because of the hostile behaviour from other global DT members. What do you mean by being trolled? I'm not sure that I got it.

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January 25, 2020, 10:25:16 PM
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I generally don't find it right for so many people who from the Turkish local forum to get negative trust.
It really doesn't matter. Analogy - if 1000 people rob a bank, 1000 people are bank robbers, you can't say 1000 people robbed bank and only 1 is bank robber and others are fine. Also, if 999 people are bank robbers and one isn't, you can't say that one person who didn't do it did it.

You have to get this "Turks", "my people" "against Turks" etc out of your head.  By doing that, you are creating stereotype, and that is really bad. No one here cares from where you are coming from. There are some good people and there are some bad people just like everywhere else.

Whenever we try to do something good, some of us suffer because of the hostile behaviour from other global DT members.
Read above. "we" and "global DT members" don't exist here. We are all individuals, this is forum after all. I have no idea why you agreed with Vispilio's extortion thread.

Btw, report PM threats to moderator.

Back to topic, you said:

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Aceeakell (alt account of Otto_diesel) tried to abuse the trust system.
Do you have any proof to back up your claim that Aceeakell = Otto_diesel?

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January 25, 2020, 10:48:28 PM
Last edit: January 25, 2020, 11:08:39 PM by eddie13
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I generally don't find it right for so many people who from the Turkish local forum to get negative trust. Whenever we try to do something good, some of us suffer because of the hostile behaviour from other global DT members.

It seems to me that the Turkish board has been neglected by the account diggers scrutinization for the most part up until some/many of them started making it on DT and/or voicing their opinions in meta/rep, drawing attention to themselves and now many are being and have been scrutinized almost all at once, and they don't understand what it happening..

What you Turks are not understanding is that all of us here have been subject to this same scrutinization the entire time, all the time, constantly, and the only ones left standing for the most part are those with absolutely clean account histories..

Look at the current thread about QuickSeller.. Look at the thread on The-Devil.. It happens ALL THE TIME.. It just happened to me a couple weeks ago..

If you are clean, then you will be fine..
If you are not, then it will probably be found and you will have to answer for it..

A lot can be forgiven with the right attitude even if some naughty stuff is found, but having an offensive attitude, claiming it is because of racism, claiming it is because of chipmixer conspiracies, is going to do nothing but make your situations worse..

I think a few/bunch of you I have seen are probably pretty good guys and valuable users.. I hope you all don't fuck it up by fighting a war that you aren't going to win..

Cooperation and honesty is a good path forward.. Accusations is not a good path forwards..  

Half of it is almost a shit-test to see how you handle yourself in tough situations.. Going off the handle like wolwoo is a fail of the shit-test.. Conducting yourself professionally and responding factually without aggression may pass the shit test even if they find some dirt on you..


Welcome to the global boards where accounts are destroyed left and right over all sorts of things..
I wish I could help you guys survive your initiation, buy ya'll are doing more to make it worse than to make it better..


BTW I think the OP is probably mostly BS.. But look where your attitudes are landing you..
marlboroza   2020-01-25   Reference   Knowingly supported defamation. Read reference for more details.

Ouch.. Shouldn't have done that..
Maybe if ya'll knock it off with the accusations and turn it around, marlboroza may eventually remove it, but not if you just keep up the same shit you will probably get more of the same..

Turks should really stop and think about their best avenue for an optimal outcome of their situation..  
Should have done that a while ago, and it's getting close to being too late..
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January 25, 2020, 10:58:51 PM
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I generally don't find it right for so many people who from the Turkish local forum to get negative trust. Whenever we try to do something good, some of us suffer because of the hostile behaviour from other global DT members.

I don't even know where most of people I communicate with come from (except marlboroza, who's a cowboy from Texas obviously), and I couldn't care less despite lunatics like you or Vispilio doing their best to create an image of members of a certain board being stuck-up assholes.

Just knock it off, it was funny the first few times, it's just pathetic now.

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January 26, 2020, 12:03:07 AM
Last edit: January 26, 2020, 01:09:19 AM by Blacknavy
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Just knock it off, it was funny the first few times, it's just pathetic now.

You don't have to read, press CTRL + W

I think a few/bunch of you I have seen are probably pretty good guys and valuable users..

Thank you for your kind words.

Turks should really stop and think.

Talk with them because I'm alone here.
Even if he removes his red trust, my reputation was destroyed many times last six months.
I don't care anymore.

I have no idea why you agreed with Vispilio's extortion thread.

Many inactive accounts woke up after the Chipmixer campaign announcement and at the same time some accounts tried to ruin Vispilio's reputation.
Although we couldn't agree with Vispilio, this reason was enough I to support him.

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Aceeakell (alt account of Otto_diesel) tried to abuse the trust system.
Do you have any proof to back up your claim that Aceeakell = Otto_diesel?

- Each people have own characteristics.
- I love reading.
- I'm obsessed with writing styles (there are some spelling mistakes).
- Aceeakell sent fake sMerits to fairy_person as Otto_diesel did. (Do you think this post deserves 5 merits?)
- fairy_person is same with otto_diesel in terms of ideological.
- fairy_person was created at the same time The rain rose that is alt account of Otto_diesel, proofs were provided by you.

anlaşılan polonyada da kemalist zihniyet hakim, oradada bürokrasi statüko koltuğu bırakmamak için milli iradeye direniyor..

Both accounts hate Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, the founder of our Republic.

Unfortunately, almost all accounts created in December 2017 belong to Otto_diesel.

For example: aya54, loveistanbul, mynet, sofikurban, redboxneo, 1453ist, 1453eko, bitterx and many more.

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January 26, 2020, 12:46:08 AM
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I don't even know where most of people I communicate with come from (except marlboroza, who's a cowboy from Texas obviously)

"Smoke that cigar and lets do some wide net shotgunning, Billy"

Many inactive accounts woke up after the Chipmixer campaign announcement and at the same time some accounts tried to ruin Vispilio's reputation.
Although we couldn't agree with Vispilio, this reason was enough I to support Vispilio.
We? You should stop fucking following those self-proclaimed "influence people". You got your own brain so use it.

proofs were provided by you.
My blockchain evidence has been debunked and called flimsy connection.
Your proof on the other hand is circumstantial, so what's your point, except that you are now calling my connection...not flimsy?

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January 26, 2020, 12:49:51 AM
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We? You should stop fucking following those self-proclaimed "influence people". You got your own brain so use it.

You already know English isn't my native language, right?

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Your proof on the other hand is circumstantial, so what's your point, except that you are now calling my connection...not flimsy?

I don't know what filmsy means, everything is clear i think.

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January 26, 2020, 02:02:16 AM
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We? You should stop fucking following those self-proclaimed "influence people". You got your own brain so use it.

You already know English isn't my native language, right?
What I want to say is that you must have your opinion and use your brain, don't go and follow people like everything they say is truth and only valid opinion.

I don't know what filmsy means, everything is clear i think.
Ok. Lets just say that connection you linked "someone" called not good.

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January 26, 2020, 06:46:04 AM
Last edit: January 27, 2020, 12:31:36 AM by Blacknavy
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I didn’t follow anyone, I supported him because I believe this is the right thing. In my opinion, it was no a coincidence that some inactive accounts activated after the Chipmixer campaign announcement, they attacked Vispilio.

I got a few distrusts after the this election, I asked why those people gave me a distrust. Most of them didn’t reply. I started to research other DT members and I saw there are some objective DT members were tagged and distrusted by others. And then, some Turkish users (it’s not a race card) started to behave strategic. Totally, I had got 9 distrust. It was unfair. And now, I know there is a problem here about trust system, and many people don’t want to say their idea because they are afraid of getting negative trust like you sent me one.

that makes you high-risk and I don't have any reason to believe your words neither to trust you in trading terms.

High-risk in trading terms, really?
When I give money, people don’t even check whether the money is original or not in face-to-face Bitcoin trading.

Ok. Lets just say that connection you linked "someone" called not good.

- All the accounts were created at the same days.
- All the accounts joined OAX sig.
- All the accounts has same last active.
- And some of them are his alt accounts and it provided by you (gumusi, the rain rose)
- They are doing same spelling mistakes and they obviously traded merit.

Are you sure that you’ve read carefully? That is why it is necessary to have a DT1 member in the local forum. Actually, proofs that I sent here enough.

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January 26, 2020, 11:55:24 AM
Last edit: January 26, 2020, 12:15:56 PM by marlboroza
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Are you sure that you’ve read carefully? That is why it is necessary to have a DT1 member in the local forum. Actually, proofs that I sent here enough.

And yet "you" did literally nothing.

And now, I know there is a problem here about trust system, and many people don’t want to say their idea because they are afraid of getting negative trust like you sent me one.
I will place negative to every user who supports defamation and extortion campaign against service and their employers. There is more then enough evidence of defamation by now.

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January 26, 2020, 12:46:09 PM
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I will place negative to every user who supports defamation and extortion campaign against service and their employers. There is more then enough evidence of defamation by now.

No one started extortion campaign against service because there is no problem about ChipMixer or DarkStar_. I’m the first person who’ve talked about ChipMixer in Turkish section. As I guessed, DarkStar_ selected Kalemder for ChipMixer and I already knew that he would select him.

Ben en başından beri Kalemder’i garanti olarak görüyorum.

I’m a merit source and I distribute 500 (+ personal sMerits around (~530-580) sMerits) each month. So, I know who from the local forum deserves to be in this campaign.

I fully agree with what Vispilio says.
Whenever something good happens in the Turkish local forum or one of people applies for a campaign, their reputation were damaged by several shooters.
They all look like respectable members because they abuse the trust system with their network.
In this way, they have an endless reliable account pool.


It is my idea and you gave me a red trust because of my thoughts. This attitide shows that my thoughts are true. I’ll not beg you to remove redtrust that you gave me. As I mentioned above, my reputation was ruined several times last six months. I’m tired of endless drama. Nobody can’t tell what should I think.

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January 26, 2020, 03:30:17 PM
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Don't insult my intelligence is my last post in this thread.

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January 26, 2020, 08:55:59 PM
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Don't insult my intelligence is my last post in this thread.

I couldn’t understand what you mean. Anyway, I’ve never defame DarkStar_ or ChipMixer. DarkStar_ is one of the most objective members on Bitcointalk. There are many posts that I recommended people to add him to their trust list. Moreover, he was on my trust list before I removed all of my trust list. He is the first person that helped us to understand how people should use the new default trust system. I’d talked to him before I started the election for the local forum.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5178202.msg52383750#msg52383750
http://loyce.club/trust/2019-06-01_Sat_14.47h/1018510.html

It wasn’t about DarkStar_ or ChipMixer, my comment was about unfair default trust system and some greedy guys who are racing each other to join sigs. They are obviously abusing the trust system because there are many accounts that were activated after the ChipMixer announcement. It means, they are alt accounts and they defamed other appliciants to raise their chance. Moreover, why should I defame ChipMixer? I didn’t even apply to ChipMixer in this term. It doesn’t make sense.

I fully agree with what Vispilio says.
Whenever something good happens in the Turkish local forum or one of people applies for a campaign, their reputation were damaged by several shooters.
They all look like respectable members because they abuse the trust system with their network.
In this way, they have an endless reliable account pool
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It was obviously about people who were abusing the trust system, not about a service.

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