🔥 Vile Chipmixer Bounty Abuse 🔥 Probably the Biggest Con Job on Bitcointalk

[Vispilio]

Since I believe there are still some moral human beings with good intentions left on this forum, I would like to address the following statements to everyone and especially to the attention of theymos, to Darkstar_ (because he has been entrusted as the gatekeeper of Chipmixer bounty), and to the organization ChipMixer because the millions of dollars they spend on this forum are being manipulated for the financial nepotism of a few members who have entrenched themselves with deep DT voting power, and who influence everyone and everything going on in this forum through their asymmetric sMerit privileges and endless trust system abuse via constant intrigue and drama they propagate on the Reputation boards...

First of all some objective facts (please correct me if there are minor mistakes on the exact figures, they are mostly extrapolated from this graph: )

Chipmixer Campaign Representation on Local Boards (as of today):

German: 3-4

Arabic: at least 3

Indonesian: at least 3

French: 3-4

Russian: 2-3

Spanish: 1-2

Turkish: absolute 0


Going by the latest statistics, Turkish board is the 3rd most active local board coming right after the Russian boards and in a close race with Indonesians, and Turkei in general is known as a very crypto enthusiastic culture with tremendous amount of capital pouring into crypto activities.

And yet, for mysterious reasons, anytime there is a Chipmixer application by an influential Turkish member, especially around the time when there are open spots on this campaign, character assassins emerge from their holes to come up with some of the nastiest and most ludicrous false accusations against the applicants.

Case in point, our most recent example, just take a look at some of the libelous threads opened against me exclusively only in the last 3 days:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219538.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219981.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219960.0


My friends and I naively responded to each and every one of similar libelous accusations in the past, and the people who came after us were even facetiously declared untrustworthy by the general community; however it's very easy to see for anyone paying attention to forum dynamics that practically it led to no improvements...

The reputations of the useful trolls used for hit jobs are quickly restored (sometimes even with "counter!" trust ratings in the silly games the Chipmixer mafia plays...), but even though most rational people in the larger BTT community agree that severe injustices are being committed, they cannot bring themselves to openly defy the wrath of the DT mafia, and so gradually all the outside members lose their DT influence and selections, and the core echo chamber continue their fascistic abuse of all forum dynamics.

I would like to ask Darkstar_ and ChipMixer, why do they let well documented manipulators like suchmoon and marlboroza remain on the most respected campaign in the forum, and worse yet, how can their blatantly biased opinions have such a strong influence on your selection criteria ? Are they writing the checks of your bounty awards every week ?..

If you are the CEO of a company, and your employees are actively working in shadows to prevent your brand from spreading into a very large sector (here the Turkish, Eastern European and Middle Eastern Markets), do you let them stay employed, or do you penalize them ?

If it's all a little game to you to reward some of your close friends and staff members, then drop the circus act altogether, don't open Chipmixer applications, don't shamelessly deceive people.

If it's really a meritocratic selection and you are an ethical man working for an ethical company, then reward the people who are acting professionally adding substantial original content to the forum and who have undeniable influence both in their local sections & in general.

And penalize those who conspire in the shadows to disenfranchise entire groups of the forum for their own personal spiteful or money driven reasons...


If you are unable to break free from the chains of the DT mafia influence in your selection criteria, then I can assure the Chipmixer organization, and any other group interested in advertising here, there are many capable people on this forum, myself included, who are brave enough to take on this task with top class professionalism and fairness.

All the Best

[1713952880]

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[Lafu]

You should Move this to the Reputation Board - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=129.0

Has nothing to do realy with the Forum !

Because its Darkstar_  that have his reason for allow or accept the Users he want and what Users are not !

He has his Opinions and Rules what Users are get there and who not !

[muslol67]

You should Move this to the Reputation Board - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=129.0

Has nothing to do realy with the Forum !

Because its Darkstar_  that have his reason for allow or accept the Users he want and what Users are not !

He has his Opinions and Rules what Users are get there and who not !

No my friend, the topic is exactly where it should be.
He is not talking about Darkstar or his choice. He talks about an attack on almost everyone in the Turkish community when there is an improvement in such critical positions in the forum.

You can see if you look at it closely and objectively what he is talking about. He talks about the CM campaign because many Turkish members have been baseless and unsubstantiated accusations since the launch of the campaign.

[TryNinja]

What is a “local board representative”? I’m pretty active in the Portuguese board, AFAIK.

Anyways, I doubt anyone has a problem with “Turkish users”, and people keep saying this, but you keep using the same argument. The issue is the user and its personality and not its nationality. This obvious isn’t going to change anything if you keep using that card. You are basically calling the same discussion that there is every time.

[Lafu]

He talks about the CM campaign

And thats why the thread should be in the Reputaion Board !

Its not going against or about the Forum !!

Its going about the CM campaign

[mindrust]

Why do you think that chipmixer campaign needs to be represented on Local Boards?

Chipmixer is a private company, the guy who is responsible as a campaign manager chooses whoever he likes.

I sent an application to the campaign as well but I know exactly why I am not accepted (because I am a WO addict) Thanks god I haven't lost my senses completely to throw the "It is because I'mma Turkish ha" card.

The whole Turkish local looks like that in my eyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q79jZG-UGxk

[Vispilio]

What is a “local board representative”? I’m pretty active in the Portuguese board, AFAIK.

Anyways, I doubt anyone has a problem with “Turkish users”, and people keep saying this, but you keep using the same argument. The issue is the user and its personality and not its nationality.

TryNinja, if you can't stand the word "Turkish" replace it with "Humans" or "Wolves" or whatever you like  , the fact remains the same, a huge influential section of the forum has no Chipmixer banners on it primarily because of the shameless nepotistic behavior of a couple of vile members entrenched in the DT system.

You should Move this to the Reputation Board - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=129.0

Has nothing to do realy with the Forum !

Because its Darkstar_  that have his reason for allow or accept the Users he want and what Users are not !

He has his Opinions and Rules what Users are get there and who not !

I believe it belongs in Meta because the Chipmixer mafia is using every single dynamic that the forum has rewarded them with, from Merit distribution to abusive Trust ratings,

to bring about nepotist outcomes in the Chipmixer selections, which is undeniably influencing Darkstar_ as I presume he wouldn't want to create an unfavorable political wind

for himself in the forum so as not to lose his other non-Chipmixer related privilieges...

[Blacknavy]

I fully agree with what Vispilio says.
Whenever something good happens in the Turkish local forum or one of people applies for a campaign, their reputation were damaged by several shooters.
They all look like respectable members because they abuse the trust system with their network.
In this way, they have an endless reliable account pool.

The whole Turkish local looks like that in my eyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q79jZG-UGxk

the Turkish community in Bitcointalk is extremely intellectual and liberal. Stop that.

[Halab]

Before writing this message, I would have waited for Darkstar to name the last 2 lucky ones who will join the CM campaign.
Because I'm not sure that this topic will help the turkish community, on the contrary.

[Lafu]

I believe it belongs in Meta because the Chipmixer mafia is using every single dynamic that the forum has rewarded them with, from Merit distribution to abusive Trust ratings,
to bring about nepotist outcomes in the Chipmixer selections, which is undeniably influencing Darkstar_ as I presume he wouldn't want to create an unfavorable political wind
for himself in the forum so as not to lose his other non-Chipmixer related privilieges...

Again it Looks like a personal problem between you and a lot of Turkish Users with Chipmixer and Darkstar_ !!
The Forum or the Admins have nothing to do with it because Chipmixer is privat Company .

Because I'm not sure that this topic will help the turkish community, on the contrary.

I guess that too !

[muslol67]

He talks about the CM campaign

And thats why the thread should be in the Reputaion Board !

Its not going against or about the Forum !!

Its going about the CM campaign

One of us don't want to try misunderstanding.
He mention about CM campaign because we are facing same problem all important events and activities in the forum. Haters coming out the surface and puke their badly intentions on this forum!

he is mentioning CM campaign because it is the last example we can talk about it. So not just this campaign, we've seen this attempt before it. Ok?

Why do think that chipmixer campaign needs to be represented on Local Boards?

Chipmixer is a private company, the guy who is responsible as a campaign manager chooses whoever he likes.

I sent an application to the campaign as well but I know exactly why I am not accepted (because I am a WO addict) Thanks god I haven't lost my senses completely to throw the "It is because I'mma Turkish ha" card.

The whole Turkish local looks like that in my eyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q79jZG-UGxk

It is pitty. We are know who you are really.
Another looser who denies his own identity and opposes the society he comes from.
And we have some saying those behaving and talking like in our (you an me both!) country! And I am sure you that you already knew.

[TheBeardedBaby]

Hold on, the candidates are chosen by personal qualities. What it has to do with the Turkish community? DarkStar just recently announced that he will focus more on the Local boards, and since then only 2 candidates were elected and there are 2 more open slots to be filled. Hold your horses and wait until it's you know the final results.
In addition DS_ announce that there will be more slots open next weeks.

[mindrust]

It is pitty. We are know who you are really.
Another looser who denies his own identity and opposes the society he comes from.
And we have some saying those behaving and talking like in our (you an me both!) country! And I am sure you that you already knew.

Wrong again. I am a Turkish patriotic beyond your imaginations but I also hate morons.

If the society I came from acts like a moron, then I don't see any problems with opposing it at least till they gather their shit together.

I am yet to see a Turkish poster posts just because he likes to be here. No, It is always the damn signature camps. Signature camps are not jobs. Some of them may pay a lot but as long as your only aim to join sig camps then you'll never be seen as a legit member.

...And I thought vispilio was one of the smarter guys guys there...

[wolwoo]

Why do think that chipmixer campaign needs to be represented on Local Boards?

Chipmixer is a private company, the guy who is responsible as a campaign manager chooses whoever he likes.

I sent an application to the campaign as well but I know exactly why I am not accepted (because I am a WO addict) Thanks god I haven't lost my senses completely to throw the "It is because I'mma Turkish ha" card.

The whole Turkish local looks like that in my eyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q79jZG-UGxk

This is a message of racism. Nazis
Ban this man

[Vispilio]

Wrong again. I am a Turkish patriotic beyond your imaginations but I also hate morons.

If the society I came from acts like a moron, then I don't see any problems with opposing it at least till they gather their shit together.

I am yet to see a Turkish poster posts just because he likes to be here. No, It is always the damn signature camps. Signature camps are not jobs. Some of them may pay a lot but as long as your only aim to join sig camps then you'll never be seen as a legit member.

...And I thought vispilio was one of the smarter guys guys there...

It's not up to you to decide who the fuck comes here for whatever motivation, you deeply confused little man. 

You need to ask yourself this mindrust: if you are disliked by every single person you come into contact with from your home country, how can you call yourself a patriot ?..

You can only call yourself "Damat Ferit" or "Ali Kemal". You know with your attitude, you would get lynched on the streets of Turkei, so you hide in the shadows, secretly boiling in your bile, and hating the country that rejects you.

Yes Turkiye has a lot of problems, but something about you unites even the divided Turkish society in positively rejecting you in every way. Does that tell you anything about yourself  ?

Do you believe even for a moment that when even your own country men can't stand you and your deeply unbalanced nature, would foreigners like you ?..
So you float in the world lost and confused, heimatlos, always hateful, always bitter, anyways this thread isn't about your problems, so don't bring your shit here anymore. I hope you get much better.

Good luck.

[muslol67]

It is pitty. We are know who you are really.
Another looser who denies his own identity and opposes the society he comes from.
And we have some saying those behaving and talking like in our (you an me both!) country! And I am sure you that you already knew.

Wrong again. I am a Turkish patriotic beyond your imaginations but I also hate morons.

If the society I came from acts like a moron, then I don't see any problems with opposing it at least till they gather their shit together.

I am yet to see a Turkish poster posts just because he likes to be here. No, It is always the damn signature camps. Signature camps are not jobs. Some of them may pay a lot but as long as your only aim to join sig camps then you'll never be seen as a legit member.

...And I thought vispilio was one of the smarter guys guys there...

I said that we have some saying for your situations already.

Mevlana said (%100 match with you!);

"Ben lafa bakarım laf mı diye, bir de söyleyene bakarım adam mı diye"

Translate won't be %100 same mean but as much as I can;

I look at the word if it is word, then I look at who said it if he is a man!

[mindrust]

Good luck.

I am not disliked by every other Turkish people. Why are you are making up stories?

Anyway keep it up, you are great at digging your own grave.

Likewise.

[Lauda]

The very opening of this thread, and the presented "case" pushes me into agreeing what others think about OP. Disappointed.  

the Turkish community in Bitcointalk is extremely intellectual and liberal. Stop that.

Did you intentionally write the complete opposite of the actual situation? No "extremely intellectual" person screams racism when criticized in any way.
Public side note: Don't lash out with the racism nonsense, many of the people that I've worked with over the years come from various backgrounds including Turkey (i.e. were turkish).
Public side note 2: I don't think most of the Chipmixer people like me at this point in time.

[Vispilio]

Good luck.

I am not disliked by every other Turkish people. Why are you are making up stories?

Anyway keep it up, you are great at digging your own grave.

Likewise.

oh we are not digging graves they are flower beds , it's a personal hobby of mine to hunt ex-Turkish traitors like you across the globe (and have a nice friendly chat with them )...

Pray to whatever pagan God you picked up in foreign lands that you don't ever get to meet me in real life. Bye.

[mindrust]

Good luck.

I am not disliked by every other Turkish people. Why are you are making up stories?

Anyway keep it up, you are great at digging your own grave.

Likewise.

oh we are not digging graves they are flower beds , it's a personal hobby of mine to hunt ex-Turkish traitors like you across the globe (and have a nice friendly chat with them )...

Pray to whatever pagan God you picked up in foreign lands that you don't ever get to meet me in real life. Bye.

Now I am a traitor and a pagan god worshipper? Those are some quite serious accusations. Where are your evidences?

And also a real life threat. Good good. Keep it like that.

Anything else?