Coronavirus Outbreak

[BADecker]

Hey, TECSHARE. Don't you just love these jokers? You can show them all day long the proof of this or that, and they turn right around and make it seem like nothing.

I just watched the video in the signature area in Tash's post. Just like the doctors who were unwilling to try something different, even in a what-do-you-have-to-lose situation.

They are a pathetic bunch, don't you think?

I'm gonna go take some vitamin C right now.

[TwitchySeal]

Hey TECSHARE, If you don't find a way to kick your conspiracy/pseudo-science blog addiction, you're going to end up like BADecker.

 

[TECSHARE]

[Whatabout... whatabout...whatabout...]

This is a non sequitur. The premise is China used this as a biological weapon regardless of the virus origins. Furthermore, this targeted the rest of the globe, not just the USA. You have fun playing with your whataboutisms though.

Your premise is a post hoc ergo propter hoc.

Thanks for the excessively self fellating pedantic way of saying "correlation does not equal causation". This is false by the way. Evidence of China actively covering up the scope of the outbreak to put themselves in a better financial position by weakening the ability of the rest of the world to respond is documented, not just assumed.



"DHS report: China hid virus’ severity to hoard supplies"

https://apnews.com/bf685dcf52125be54e030834ab7062a8




"Wuhan Institute of Virology (China) Sought to Patent Gilead’s Remdesivir"

"On January 21, it was reported that China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology of the Chinese Academy of Sciences filed a patent for commercial use of remdesivir in China."

https://www.trialsitenews.com/wuhan-institute-of-virology-china-sought-to-patent-gileads-remdesivir/



"Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in January 2020"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_COVID-19_pandemic_in_January_2020




"Why Are the Chinese Made IR Thermometers So Cold?"

https://apelbaum.wordpress.com/2020/05/04/why-are-the-chinese-made-ir-thermometers-so-cold/




"Chinese Company that Makes Forehead Thermometers ‘Jokes’ About Making Faulty Product for Sale in US in Order to Spread Disease"

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/chinese-company-that-makes-forehead-thermometers-jokes-about-making-faulty-product-for-sale-in-us-in-order-to-spread-disease/



"$20 trillion lawsuit against China! US group says coronavirus is bioweapon"

https://www.businesstoday.in/current/world/usd-20-trillion-lawsuit-against-china-us-group-says-coronavirus-bioweapon/story/399071.html

[franky1]

lets just clarify things for all the "from a lab" idiots

the reason they traced it from bats is not by testing bats in december/january. and comparing RNA
but the lab studies loads of viruses over many years and collects the rna sequences and stores the DATA
emphasis DATA

the data of human infected covid patients samples. of covid. was scanned into a computer and it was set to compare it to other human virals.
it revealed no other human virals of exact match. hense it was declared 'novel'(new)
however they then compared it to similar viruses and see its in the same family as corona viruses but again for emphasis not the same as sars or mers.
basically meaning its definitely not tuberculosis or ebola as its nothing like them.
so they knew it was corona virus discovered 2019

next they compared it to all the corona based viruses found in all samples previously collected from random wild animals over the years. and spotted bats tested, from a cave many miles east of wuhan had it way before humans

the virus did not 'come from a lab' it came from bats and was just sampled in a lab
the studies reveal that the bat/human comparisons shown such close comparison to show its from the same strain they see there was some NATURAL mutation which is why they feel that it was a bat->pangolin->human cross contamination

usually if it was man made/edited certain pattern of mutation would reveal this.
there is no sign of man made editing
(EG man made editing would be to mix different viruses together. viruses known to mix well using lab techniques.. this has not been the case)

[franky1]

meanwhile in other news
after realising the 'first cases' on the east coast of USA were over 70% imports jan 19th-feb27(30% secondary infectees from those imports).
and realising it was imports from EUROPE not china, other countries in EUROPE then retrospectively looked back on previous patients with 'flu like symptoms' before france even knew of covid.
and noticed they had ~88 patients between early december-jan16 that fit the (then unknown) now known symptomology of covid.

they narrowed the list down more and decided to again test those samples of just over a dozen samples which they had stored. but this time specifically for covid19 because obviously they didnt have a 'covid test' in december.

out of those they found one patient in fance had covid in when he came to a french hospital on december 27th. and his daughter had it too. so france had covid before december 27th

.........
i can easily see that trump will probably blame france for infecting NYC due to this revelation.. its his style

(the french guy had not travelled to china. but his wife worked at a supermarket fishmonger which handles sushi. (so belief is the contamination came from a food import from china. but this is speculation and not proved))

[TECSHARE]

"Food Rationing Has Begun As Supply Chain BREAKS, Burgers Dropped From Menu, Stores RESTRICT Meats"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2yLUF76LEI


Hey Salty, come back and tell me more about how this has all been accounted for.

[franky1]

"Food Rationing Has Begun As Supply Chain BREAKS, Burgers Dropped From Menu, Stores RESTRICT Meats"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2yLUF76LEI
Hey Salty, come back and tell me more about how this has all been accounted for.

yep its a problem. but you have to look at the cause

wendy's didnt prepare its supplychain in january/february/march. it did not give extra budget to allow slaughterhouses to section off area's to allow social distancing.
so of course butchers in the slaughter house started getting sicker with slaughterhouses becoming a hotzone of viral spread.
less staff to cut and mince the meat=less minced meat to send to stores

good old america. yea there was a virus. but if you dont act and do something to prevent it spreading. you cant then blame the virus for the spread

those people will be out of action for a couple months.
lets hope america wise up and actually put some money in to retrofit factories to actually allow social distancing and fit employee's that cant socially distance with proper PPE (not just a cloth mask and gloves) so that they can avoid it rrepeating in waves
but knowing america. they wont
expect many waves of this happening

[franky1]

also. an irish flght company is using the excuse that thir planes air filtration system is not adequate to remove the small viral sized pathogens from the air.. so instead of actually changing the filtration system. they stupidly said there was no point in socially distancing passengers as they will all be breathing everyones air anyway. and started to do flights at full capacity. yep people shoulder to shoulder all because they didnt want to upgrade the filters and didnt want to fly at 30% capacity (1 person per 3 seats)

expect airports/planes to be the next hotzones

edit to reply to below
badecker thinks i give a crap about merit. i give away 50 merit to people i dislike. i dont need or want it.
im not looking to earn merit.
ive been a merit source so get merit even without trying. thats how little i care about it
badecker just angry and does not realise he is not even worthy of any

edit to reply to below without bumping
the idiot below thinks the lockdown IS the pandemic.
he thinks relaxing the lockdown is relaxing the pandemic. he does not realise the lockdown relaxed the pandemic and relaxing the lockdown strengthens the pandemic.
he has no clue and just angry that he doesnt earn merit for posting scripts

[BADecker]

Expect a lot of franky1 blabber to fill these pages, because F-1 is trying to maintain the pandemic status quo, even though there is no reason for the pandemic. So, he will be blabbing his head off just to cover up posts with correct info.

It'll give him higher activity, even if it doesn't give him greater merit.

[dupeddonk]

my town has under 100 cases and 0 deaths but schools are closed and my wife isnt allowed to run her business and she got shut out from the $10,000 loan even though she was one of the first to apply.  we have to decide by june 1 if we want to renew lease for 24 months. if things dont change will probably just shut it down.

[franky1]

my town has under 100 cases and 0 deaths but schools are closed and my wife isnt allowed to run her business and she got shut out from the $10,000 loan even though she was one of the first to apply.  we have to decide by june 1 if we want to renew lease for 24 months. if things dont change will probably just shut it down.

i think the way forward is to try more local/regional/'hotzone' monitoring. try to control the flow of communtuing log distances to stop other towns bringing it into your town for instance. and only lockdown towns/regions if case numbers rise up quickly

this is not the fault of the virus. but of political actions to not act for weeks/months. and then move to fast too generally even for area's without large cases.

however as seen in sweden by them having a relaxed approach. it actually became an advertisment to bring people from norway an denmark into sweden . so if countries are to do more regional monitoring and react regionally they will definetly have to control the borders

as for your wifes business. what type of business is it. is there a way she can pivot the business to operate slightly differently but still function

[TECSHARE]

https://time.com/5798168/coronavirus-mortality-rate/

[BADecker]

https://time.com/5798168/coronavirus-mortality-rate/

I think what happened is that SARS and MERS built up the immune systems of folks. And since Covid is so similar, it was easy for the already-present-immune-antibodies to convert slightly to protect from Covid. Possibly the antibodies for SARS or MERS work directly on Covid without any conversion at all.



EDIT: I think I'll drink the last of the OJ, and pop a gram of vitamin C at the same time.

EDIT 2: Btw, it's Walmart/Chinese vitamin C, so who knows what might be in it?

[TECSHARE]

With the newly revised CDC death rates, the percentages are even lower than that in the US.

[TwitchySeal]

With the newly revised CDC death rates, the percentages are even lower than that in the US.

"No, The CDC Did Not Revise Down The Number Of COVID-19 Deaths"
Several tweets went viral that falsely claimed the CDC had drastically revised down the number of deaths in the US from the coronavirus — but it seems some people didn't read to the end of the page.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/coronavirus-death-toll-cdc-misinformation

[Tash]

With the newly revised CDC death rates, the percentages are even lower than that in the US.

So less people die than the last years (95%)
39910 Covid-19 deaths and less than 6000 from flu. Good to know a cure for the flu is found, in the 2017/2018  season 80,000 flu deaths


https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/

Data as of May 5, 2020

-	COVID-19 Deaths	All Deaths	% of last years	Pneumonia Deaths	Deaths with Pneumonia and COVID-19	Influenza Deaths	Deaths with Pneumonia, Influenza, or COVID-19
Total Deaths	39,910	751,953	95	67,372	17,683	5,910	94,681

Impressive
Alaska   -
Hawaii   -
Montana   -
North Carolina    0
Wyoming   -

New York City   12,178  that is 30.51% of the whole country, Impressive

[TwitchySeal]

With the newly revised CDC death rates, the percentages are even lower than that in the US.

So less people die than the last years (95%)
39910 Covid-19 deaths and less than 6000 from flu. Good to know a cure for the flu is found.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/

No.

You need to read the words.  The provisional death count of 39910 refers to the certified deaths.  It takes 1-2 weeks to certify a death, which means the number we're seeing today is lagging 1-2 weeks..

It is important to note that it can take several weeks for death records to be submitted to National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), processed, coded, and tabulated. Therefore, the data shown on this page may be incomplete, and will likely not include all deaths that occurred during a given time period, especially for the more recent time periods. Death counts for earlier weeks are continually revised and may increase or decrease as new and updated death certificate data are received from the states by NCHS. COVID-19 death counts shown here may differ from other published sources, as data currently are lagged by an average of 1–2 weeks.


Reported deaths is currently 68k+.  https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

Stop letting the media fool you.

[tvbcof]

OMG!! TANZANIA GETS POSITIVE VIRUS TESTS ON GOATS AND PAPAYA! ROFLMAO!!

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpvsrCH6wtQ

Why anyone trusts the W.H.O. for anything except a few laughs is beyond me.

[franky1]

With the newly revised CDC death rates, the percentages are even lower than that in the US.

So less people die than the last years (95%)
39910 Covid-19 deaths and less than 6000 from flu. Good to know a cure for the flu is found.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/

Data as of May 5, 2020

-	COVID-19 Deaths	All Deaths	% of last years	Pneumonia Deaths	Deaths with Pneumonia and COVID-19	Influenza Deaths	Deaths with Pneumonia, Influenza, or COVID-19
Total Deaths	39,910	751,953	95	67,372	17,683	5,910	94,681

the last 2-3 weeks have not yet added complete data as it takes time for the CDC to collate data
what you do need to realise is that the weekly average of flu and pneumonia(other causes) did not go down. meaning that those with other flus are not pushed into the covid numbers.

take the week of the 4/4/2020. and compare it to a week in january before this whole thing started in america

-	COVID-19 Deaths	All Deaths	% of last years	Pneumonia Deaths	Deaths with Pneumonia and COVID-19	Influenza Deaths	Deaths with Pneumonia, Influenza, or COVID-19
2/1/2020	0	57,403	97	3,697	0	471	4,168
4/4/2020	8,219	65,140	117	8,839	3,934	436	13,345

 it shows 8k covid(lab confirmed). then lots of other amounts for other stuff which then total 13k
yet public stats like worldometer are not showing as that week having 13k deaths as covid they are showing just ~8k.. heck they are not even showing 65k (all deaths) so that disproves the whole classing all deaths as covid.
heck they are not showing 79k meaning worldometer and public stats are not just throwing random deaths as being covid.
the numbers for the week ending 4-4-2020 tally. and the number of deaths from other flu/pneumonia have not decreased from their average. so that suggests doctors are not mis-classing death causes as covid.
infact some of the just pneumonia cases have increased meaning some may have had covid, and just not tested.
again revealing doctors only class as covid if it tests positive


doctors actually run tests and do scans and diagnose. they dont just play ailment lotto and pick a random cause.

anyway numbers for 4/18/2020, 4/25/2020, 5/2/2020 are not manipulated or revised down. they are just not yet included because data is still coming into the CDC where they double check things. thats why its called provisional

[BADecker]

With the newly revised CDC death rates, the percentages are even lower than that in the US.

So less people die than the last years (95%)
39910 Covid-19 deaths and less than 6000 from flu. Good to know a cure for the flu is found.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/

Data as of May 5, 2020

-	COVID-19 Deaths	All Deaths	% of last years	Pneumonia Deaths	Deaths with Pneumonia and COVID-19	Influenza Deaths	Deaths with Pneumonia, Influenza, or COVID-19
Total Deaths	39,910	751,953	95	67,372	17,683	5,910	94,681

the last 2-3 weeks have not yet added complete data as it takes time for the CDC to collate data
what you do need to realise is that the weekly average of flu and pneumonia(other causes) did not go down. meaning that those with other flus are not pushed into the covid numbers.

take the week of the 4/4/2020. and compare it to a week in january before this whole thing started in america

-	COVID-19 Deaths	All Deaths	% of last years	Pneumonia Deaths	Deaths with Pneumonia and COVID-19	Influenza Deaths	Deaths with Pneumonia, Influenza, or COVID-19
2/1/2020	0	57,403	97	3,697	0	471	4,168
4/4/2020	8,219	65,140	117	8,839	3,934	436	13,345

 it shows 8k covid(lab confirmed). then lots of other amounts for other stuff which then total 13k
yet public stats like worldometer are not showing as that week having 13k deaths as covid they are showing just ~8k.. heck they are not even showing 65k (all deaths) so that disproves the whole classing all deaths as covid.
heck they are not showing 79k meaning worldometer and public stats are not just throwing random deaths as being covid.
the numbers for the week ending 4-4-2020 tally. and the number of deaths from other flu/pneumonia have not decreased from their average. so that suggests doctors are not mis-classing death causes as covid.
infact some of the just pneumonia cases have increased meaning some may have had covid, and just not tested.
again revealing doctors only class as covid if it tests positive


doctors actually run tests and do scans and diagnose. they dont just play ailment lotto and pick a random cause.

anyway numbers for 4/18/2020, 4/25/2020, 5/2/2020 are not manipulated or revised down. they are just not yet included because data is still coming into the CDC where they double check things. thats why its called provisional

You are so silly. Deaths from Covid and deaths from other things don't just happen that way because they are suddenly diagnosed. If that were the case, you could say that people around the world barely die, because doctors don't diagnose the cause of death of millions of people. Those people aren't really dead. No doctor said they were. They only act like they are dead, right?

Covid in January = 0
Covid in April = 8,219

Nobody know that for sure. Doctors could easily have been misdiagnosing or misreporting the numbers for either month. Get some proof already.