Coronavirus Outbreak

[Natsuu]

Another thing with the corona outbreak I noticed in my country is that everybody is speaking of the British, Brazilian or South African virus mutation, but when speaking about the original virus it is not okay to say it is the Chinese virus. How can that be? It feels like there are so many things happening behind closed doors that we will never find out. It's been almost 1.5 years and we still don't know if it was an biological attack or not. I wish the politicians would pressure more to get answers.

Because the people that started calling it "The China Virus" are the same people that spread a bunch of misinformation about China spreading the virus on purpose.  Calling it the China Virus at this point doesn't really do much harm other than make you look like an ignorant idiot.

And the main reason is, the virus that is the original, has its own name which is "Corona virus", while mutations are different.

They are also called Corona virus, but mutated in different places. Imagine having specific names for different places like

Corona Virus - COVIDoo or something you want it to be named.

To avoid confusion, they use places where it mutates "Covid - South african variant", much easier to be remembered right?

[BADecker]

The only reason coronavirus is effective at all is because people are nutritionally unhealthy.

Nutritionally unhealthy has to do with things like:
- eating too much processed, grocery store food;
- eating too much food with insecticides or herbicides on it;
- taking too many medications;
- drinking too much coffee;
- not getting an appropriate amount of vitamins... especially thiamine;
- more; study up on nutrition on the Net.

The common cold is a coronavirus. People who take vitamin C and never catch a cold, almost never get Covid or one of its variants.

[Natsuu]

The only reason coronavirus is effective at all is because people are nutritionally unhealthy.

Nutritionally unhealthy has to do with things like:
- eating too much processed, grocery store food;
- eating too much food with insecticides or herbicides on it;
- taking too many medications;
- drinking too much coffee;
- not getting an appropriate amount of vitamins... especially thiamine;
- more; study up on nutrition on the Net.

The common cold is a coronavirus. People who take vitamin C and never catch a cold, almost never get Covid or one of its variants.

really, that's why even jetcrash, advocate of vitamins and healthy living in this community, got the virus. Ergo your deduction is incorrect.

You can get the virus even though you're healthy and lively, its just that it will not be as deadly as to people who are unhealthy, and old.

As simple as that.

[BADecker]

The only reason coronavirus is effective at all is because people are nutritionally unhealthy.

Nutritionally unhealthy has to do with things like:
- eating too much processed, grocery store food;
- eating too much food with insecticides or herbicides on it;
- taking too many medications;
- drinking too much coffee;
- not getting an appropriate amount of vitamins... especially thiamine;
- more; study up on nutrition on the Net.

The common cold is a coronavirus. People who take vitamin C and never catch a cold, almost never get Covid or one of its variants.

really, that's why even jetcrash, advocate of vitamins and healthy living in this community, got the virus. Ergo your deduction is incorrect.

You can get the virus even though you're healthy and lively, its just that it will not be as deadly as to people who are unhealthy, and old.

As simple as that.

Anybody can get anything for any number of reasons. How do we know? Loads of people who have gotten the Covid vaccine, still got Covid, afterward.

If the PCR test was used to determine that you have the virus... you might have the virus, but not because the PCR test determines anything. PCR lies back and forth all over the place.

If you are sick with Covid symptoms, you don't really know that it is Covid, even if your doctor tells you. How do we know? Because there aren't really any more flu cases. They suddenly disappeared, and Covid took their place. So, what did Jet Cash really have. Probably the flu, but nobody really knows.

[Tash]

We do know for a fact a virus can not be transmitted from person to person. Numerous attempts at doing so, all failed. People are sick of own wrongdoing, thats it.
No test, no pandemic.

[tvbcof]

As data from the 'vaccines', not to mention the roll-out leading up to them, continue to come in, it is becoming clear that some of our worst fears need to be taken seriously.  That would be, of course, a meaningful depopulation event.  Several musings:


1)  It has always been assumed that 'they' wouldn't do such a thing as widespread contagious disease with 100% sterilization because it might effect 'one of them'.  But note that technology has already been demonstrated that can result in procreation taking place in a lab.  Written about in fiction for about 100 years as well.  So, if that is all that is possible to sustain the human species is factory GMO humans it might be more of a feature than a bug to some of the technocrats.

I wouldn't bet the farm on no engineered event which would permanently sterilize all women simply because it might impact those in power.  Permutations of the theme involve a 'Handmaid's Tale' type situation, and fertility amongst the females in one's flock could be a huge value-add.

It's worth note the recent story about Israel discovering how to make a human using only two men with no women involvement needed.  Especially when the artificial womb they are at work on is perfected.


2)  Once the decision is made to 'go for it', there is really no point in just going part way.  You might as well solve 'the problem' for a long time into the future.  It's less dangerous from a 'blow-back' perspective as well.

Analysis of the writing on The Georgia Guidestones inevitably contain two assumptions which I find invalid.  (Noting that 'invalid assumption' is not the same thing as 'wrong'.)

  a)  Those who are responsible for the thing are the perps as opposed people who are nothing more than insiders.

  b)  The thing says clearly to _not exceed_ 500M population rather than to knock it down to that figure.  That implies a 'starting point' of potentially a much lower number.

[Cnut237]

As data from the 'vaccines', not to mention the roll-out leading up to them, continue to come in, it is becoming clear that some of our worst fears need to be taken seriously.  That would be, of course, a meaningful depopulation event.

You mean the data I linked to here, right? Summarised again below for convenience. The main fear at the moment is that there are sufficient numbers of anti-vaxxers to prevent effective herd immunity.

Moderna tested all participants when they received their second dose and reported in December that fewer asymptomatic infections occurred in the vaccinated group than the placebo group after the first dose. Johnson & Johnson also reported data from nearly 3,000 phase three trial participants who were tested two months after vaccination to see if they had antibodies from a new infection since vaccination. That preliminary data suggested a 74 percent reduction in asymptomatic infection.

people vaccinated with one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine had viral loads up to 20 times lower than viral loads in unvaccinated, infected people.

Two others, from the Mayo Clinic and the U.K., included more than 85,000 routinely tested healthcare workers who were fully vaccinated with the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. The vaccine reduced infection by 85 to 89 percent.

More evidence accumulated in March with a slew of studies about the mRNA vaccines. One with 9,109 healthcare workers in Israel found infections cut by 75 percent after two doses of the Pfize-BioNTech vaccine. Another revealed that the viral load fell fourfold in those who received one dose and then developed an infection.

Among more than 39,000 people screened for infection at the Mayo Clinic, patients had a 72 percent lower risk of infection 10 days after the first dose of either mRNA vaccine and 80 percent lower after both doses.

The New England Journal of Medicine published research letters showing reduced infections in fully vaccinated healthcare workers at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center, the Hadassah Hebrew University Medical Center in Jerusalem, and the University of California in Los Angeles and San Diego.

an early April CDC study of 3,950 healthcare workers who were tested weekly for three months after receiving both doses of either mRNA vaccine. Full vaccination reduced infection—regardless of symptoms—by 90 percent, and a single dose reduced infection by 80 percent.

the evidence shows that full vaccination with either mRNA vaccine cuts risk of infection by at least half after one dose, and by 75 to 90 percent two weeks after the second dose. Though less research is available on the Johnson & Johnson vaccine, the trial data suggest an infection reduction of more than 70 percent is likely. With the vaccines preventing this much infection, they’re also stopping the majority of vaccinated people from passing along the virus.

[tvbcof]

As data from the 'vaccines', not to mention the roll-out leading up to them, continue to come in, it is becoming clear that some of our worst fears need to be taken seriously.  That would be, of course, a meaningful depopulation event.

You mean the data I linked to here, right? Summarised again below for convenience. The main fear at the moment is that there are sufficient numbers of anti-vaxxers to prevent effective herd immunity.

Don't be a lazy fuck...in addition to a mouth-breathing idiot.  You cannot make something 'sourced' by pointing to a non-sourced bunch of chicken-scratch.  If you want to source something, source it.

On to more interesting things, there are increasing reports of the gene therapies fucking up women's menstrual cycles badly.  There are ALSO reports of non-vaccinated women who have to be around women who are vaccinated suffering the same basic kinds of issues with their menstrual cycles!

Then there is the footage of the person who (claims to) have gotten a hold of some Pfizer vaccine and found some bizarre organisms in it which seem a little bit like T. gondil.  That's the cat disease which, when it effects rats, makes the rats lose their fear of cats and thus more likely to be eaten.  So, it has the ability to cause neurological and behavioral issues in mammalian brains.  I only knew about it since pregnant women are not supposed to clean cat boxes due to the risk since it causes fertility issues and birth defects in humans.  I knew also of the interesting behavioral changes induced by the microbe, but until recently I did not know it was the same organism which had both of these interesting properties.

So, there is a theoretical possibility that 'vaccinated' people could indeed become infected with things and pass the infection along.  I'm warming to the idea of tagging vaccinated people so I know who to stay away from to say the truth.  At least until we get more actual scientific clarity on what the hell is going on.

There is a precedent for bacterial infections developed as non-lethal biological weapons effecting people who were not directly targeted.  It happened in the Texas prison system where 'they' were trying things out on prisoners and the guards and their families were infected.  After more development it seemed to become one of the agents associated with 'gulf war syndrome' which also impacted soldier's family members.  The microbe in that instance was primarily mycoplasma bacteria and the 'gain of function' variants of certain species of it.

[Tash]

In case someone missed it as media not reporting it. Join at what ever timeframe you like.
https://youtu.be/T7Jg6koGE-g


Klaus,  you can stick your new world order up your a**s
https://youtu.be/cyztBSVjIHo

[Natsuu]

The only reason coronavirus is effective at all is because people are nutritionally unhealthy.

Nutritionally unhealthy has to do with things like:
- eating too much processed, grocery store food;
- eating too much food with insecticides or herbicides on it;
- taking too many medications;
- drinking too much coffee;
- not getting an appropriate amount of vitamins... especially thiamine;
- more; study up on nutrition on the Net.

The common cold is a coronavirus. People who take vitamin C and never catch a cold, almost never get Covid or one of its variants.

really, that's why even jetcrash, advocate of vitamins and healthy living in this community, got the virus. Ergo your deduction is incorrect.

You can get the virus even though you're healthy and lively, its just that it will not be as deadly as to people who are unhealthy, and old.

As simple as that.

Anybody can get anything for any number of reasons. How do we know? Loads of people who have gotten the Covid vaccine, still got Covid, afterward.

If the PCR test was used to determine that you have the virus... you might have the virus, but not because the PCR test determines anything. PCR lies back and forth all over the place.

If you are sick with Covid symptoms, you don't really know that it is Covid, even if your doctor tells you. How do we know? Because there aren't really any more flu cases. They suddenly disappeared, and Covid took their place. So, what did Jet Cash really have. Probably the flu, but nobody really knows.

He knows, he's been diagnosed with covid, and his immunity documents shows that he is now resistant to the virus. So logically, what infected him is indeed the covid.

Vaccine doesn't make you 100% immune, even commercially, they advertise their vaccines to be 90%+ effective.

[BADecker]

Anybody can get anything for any number of reasons. How do we know? Loads of people who have gotten the Covid vaccine, still got Covid, afterward.

If the PCR test was used to determine that you have the virus... you might have the virus, but not because the PCR test determines anything. PCR lies back and forth all over the place.

If you are sick with Covid symptoms, you don't really know that it is Covid, even if your doctor tells you. How do we know? Because there aren't really any more flu cases. They suddenly disappeared, and Covid took their place. So, what did Jet Cash really have. Probably the flu, but nobody really knows.

He knows, he's been diagnosed with covid, and his immunity documents shows that he is now resistant to the virus. So logically, what infected him is indeed the covid.

Vaccine doesn't make you 100% immune, even commercially, they advertise their vaccines to be 90%+ effective.

First, how does he know that the diagnosis is correct. They haven't even isolated the virus, yet.

You can't show that you are resistant to something when nobody has even found the thing that they say you are resistant to.

Considering that potentially 300,000 have died from the vaccine, who cares if the vaccine makes you resistant or not? Stay away from the killer vaccines.

[Tash]

...and the stupid will believe it and ask to be treated.

[shahzadafzal]

"Bill Gates says no to sharing vaccine formulas with global poor to end pandemic"

Health advocates blast Microsoft billionaire for saying patent protections on life-saving vaccines must remain

https://www.salon.com/2021/04/26/bill-gates-says-no-to-sharing-vaccine-formulas-with-global-poor-to-end-pandemic_partner/

[franky1]

"Bill Gates says no to sharing vaccine formulas with global poor to end pandemic"

Health advocates blast Microsoft billionaire for saying patent protections on life-saving vaccines must remain

https://www.salon.com/2021/04/26/bill-gates-says-no-to-sharing-vaccine-formulas-with-global-poor-to-end-pandemic_partner/

wrong
BG said dont open source the PATENT. because some shady factories will make knock-off's that are not monitored/tested/quality assured.

BG said get the regulated/monitored vaccine labs to share the vaccine with the world. but dont allow any idiot with a test tube and a spoon to be allowed to make and sell it

[Gyfts]

https://nypost.com/2021/04/25/youre-no-safer-from-covid-social-distancing-at-6-or-60-feet-study/

New study from MIT suggests that the social distancing distance, whether it be 6 feet or 60 feet does not matter if you're indoors. Meaning all the businesses across the world throwing away money to covid proof their businesses wasted a lot of time and money for no effect. Wonder if this will change any guidelines in schools who are doing social distancing?

[hornetsnest]

...and the stupid will believe it and ask to be treated.

This is not correct but this is indeed the same traveler who also introduced Mr Macron to the temple and as all initiates receive the mysteries they predict your future because it is they who design it in accordance with Lu_ifer's will.

Anyway bits of it have been lifted from the book L'avenir de la vie but the interview with Michel Salomon did not proceed as above. The full translation of the interview is as follows:

Is this conceivable parasitic, a 1984 Orwellian based on a behavioral pharmacology?


I don't believe in Orwellism, because it is a form of technical totalitarianism with a visible and centralized Big Brother. I rather believe in decentralization. These machines to watch over our health, which we could have for our good, will enslave us for our good. In a way, we will undergo gentle and permanent conditioning.


How do you see the man of the twenty-first century?


I believe that we must very clearly distinguish two kinds of men of the twenty-first century, that is to say: the man of the twenty-first century from the rich countries and the man of the twenty-first century from the poor countries. The first will certainly be a man who is much more anguished than he is today, but who will find his answer to the pain of experiencing a sort of commercial form of conviviality.

But besides that, I am convinced that the immense majority who will have knowledge of these machines and the way of life of the rich, but who will not have access to them, will be extraordinarily aggressive and violent. It is from this distortion that the great chaos will be born which could be translated either by racial wars, conquests, or by immigration to our counterparts of millions of people who will want to share our way of life.


Do you believe that genetic engineering is one of the keys to our future?


I believe that genetic engineering will be in the next twenty years a technique as commonplace, as well known and present in everyday life as the internal combustion engine is today. It is moreover the same type of parallel that we can establish.

With the internal combustion engine, we could make two choices: either favor public transport and make life easier for people, or produce automobiles, tools for aggressiveness, consumption, individualization, loneliness, storage, desire, of rivalry. We chose the second solution. I believe that with genetic engineering we have the same type of choice and I believe that we will also choose, alas, the second solution. In other words, with genetic engineering we could little by little create the conditions for a humanity assuming itself freely, but collectively, or else create the conditions for a new commodity, genetic this time, which would be made of copies of men sold to men, of chimeras or hybrids used as slaves, robots, means of work.


Is it possible and desirable to live 120 years?


Medically, I don't know. I've always been told it was possible. Is this desirable? I will answer in several times. First of all, I believe that in the very logic of the industrial system in which we find ourselves, the extension of the duration of the life is no longer an objective desired by the logic of power. Why? Because for a long time it was a question of extending life expectancy in order to reach the maximum threshold of profitability of the human machine, in terms of work, it was perfect.

But as soon as we pass 60/65 years, man lives longer than he produces and it costs society dearly.

Hence I cry out that in the logic of industrial society itself, the objective will no longer be to extend life expectancy, but to ensure that even within a determined lifespan , the man lives as well as possible but in such a way that health expenses will be as low as possible in terms of costs for the collective. Then a new life expectancy criterion appears: that of the value of a health system, a function not of the extension of life expectancy but of the number of years without illness and particularly without hospitalization. Indeed from the point of view of society, it is much better for the human machine to come to a screeching halt rather than gradually deteriorating.

This is perfectly clear if we remember that two thirds of health expenses are concentrated in the last months of life. Likewise, cynicism aside, health spending would not reach one third of the current level (175 billion francs in 1979) if people all died suddenly in car accidents. So we have to recognize that the logic no longer lies in increasing life expectancy but in increasing the length of life without disease. However, I think that the increase of the duration of life remains a fantasy which corresponds to two objectives: the first is that of the men of power. The increasingly totalitarian and directive societies in which we find ourselves tend to be run by old men, to become gerontocracies. the second reason lies in the possibility for capitalist society to make old age economically profitable simply by making old people solvent. It is currently a market but it is not solvent.


This goes perfectly with the view that man today is no longer important as a worker but as a consumer (because he is replaced by machines in work). So, we could accept the idea of ​​extending life expectancy on condition of making old people solvent and thus creating a market. We can see very well how the current large pharmaceutical companies behave, in relatively egalitarian countries where at least the method of financing retirement is correct: they favor geriatrics, to the detriment of other fields of research such as tropical diseases.

It is therefore on the one hand, as a socialist, objectively against the extension of life because it is an illusion, a false problem. I believe that asking this type of problem makes it possible to avoid more essential questions such as that of the release of the time actually lived in the present life. What good is it to live to 100 years, if we win 20 years of dictatorship?


The world to come, liberal or socialist, will need a biological morality, to create an ethic of cloning or euthanasia, for example.


Euthanasia will be one of the essential instruments of our future societies in all cases. In a socialist logic, to begin with, the problem arises as follows: socialist logic is freedom and fundamental freedom is suicide; in consequence, the right to direct or indirect suicide is therefore an absolute value in this type of society. In a capitalist society, killing machines, prostheses which will make it possible to eliminate life when it will be too unbearable, or economically too expensive, will emerge and will be in common practice. It either a value of freedom or a commodity, will be one of the rules of future society.


Will not the men of tomorrow be conditioned by psychotropic drugs and subjected to manipulations of the psyche? How to protect yourself from it?


The only precautions one can take are related to knowledge and knowledge. It is essential today to ban a large number of drugs, to stop the proliferation of conditioning drugs; but perhaps the border has already been crossed.

On the other hand, isn't television an excessive drug?

Hasn't alcohol always been an excessive drug?

The worst drug is the absence of culture. People want drugs because they don't have the culture. Why do they seek drug alienation? Because they have become aware of their powerlessness to live and that this powerlessness translates concretely into the total refusal of life.

An optimistic bet on the man would be to say that if the man had the cutlure, in the sense of the tools of the thought, he could escape the solutions of impotence. So, to take the evil at the root, it is to give to the men a formidable instrument of subversion and creativity.

I do not believe that banning drugs would be sufficient because if you do not tackle a problem at its root, you inevitably fall into the gears of the police and it is worse.


How are we going to deal with mental illness in the future?


The problem of the development of the medicine of mental illnesses will come about in two stages. Initially there will be still more drugs, psychotropic drugs, which correspond to a real progress, for 30 years, in mental medicine.

It seems to me that, as a second step, and for economic reasons, a certain number of electoral means will be put in place, which will be either pain control methods (bio-feedback, etc.), or a computer system of psychoanalytic dialogues.

History teaches us that humanity evolves significantly only when it is truly afraid: then it first puts in place defense mechanisms; sometimes intolerable (scapegoats and totalitarianisms); sometimes futile (distraction); sometimes effective (therapeutic, if necessary setting aside all previous moral principles). Then, once the crisis is over, it transforms these mechanisms to make them compatible with individual freedom and to include them in a democratic health policy. „

„The pandemic that is beginning could trigger one of these structuring fears“ because it will raise, „better than any humanitarian or ecological discourse, the awareness of the need for altruism, at least interested. “

„And, even if, as we can obviously hope, this crisis is not very serious, we must not forget, as for the economic crisis, to learn the lessons, so that before the next – inevitable – prevention and control mechanisms are put in place, as well as logistical processes for the equitable distribution of drugs and vaccines. For that, we will have to put in place a global police force, global storage and therefore global taxation. We will then, much faster than economic reason alone would have allowed, to lay the foundations for a real world government. “

[BADecker]

^^^ Of course, more words are easier to find more holes in. I mean there are often more a's, b's, d's, e's, g's, o's, p's, and even q's, when there are more words. See the holes in those alphabet letters? 

[sirazimuth]

^^^ Of course, more words are easier to find more holes in. I mean there are often more a's, b's, d's, e's, g's, o's, p's, and even q's, when there are more words. See the holes in those alphabet letters?  

If I feel like wasting some time and actually read one of your "brilliant gem" posts such as this one, (usually when I'm bored and I need a chuckle, so I just browse to the  BADecker swill board p+s section)
its inevitably one big hole full of nonsense.

[Natsuu]

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wrong
BG said dont open source the PATENT. because some shady factories will make knock-off's that are not monitored/tested/quality assured.

BG said get the regulated/monitored vaccine labs to share the vaccine with the world. but dont allow any idiot with a test tube and a spoon to be allowed to make and sell it

If Bill Gates' statement is correct and the vaccine is 100% effective then that is a good step taken by Bill Gates...
The sale of counterfeit vaccines is rife even on the black market, if all companies could make this then there would be an imbalance.

It is already stated by manufacturers that they haven't still find the vaccine which is "100%" effective. Though as many times I would say, if you are unlucky enough to get the virus after having the vaccine, the effects are now different. You will most likely just have a flu then you're fine already.

[Tash]

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wrong
BG said dont open source the PATENT. because some shady factories will make knock-off's that are not monitored/tested/quality assured.

BG said get the regulated/monitored vaccine labs to share the vaccine with the world. but dont allow any idiot with a test tube and a spoon to be allowed to make and sell it

If Bill Gates' statement is correct and the vaccine is 100% effective then that is a good step taken by Bill Gates...
The sale of counterfeit vaccines is rife even on the black market, if all companies could make this then there would be an imbalance.

It is already stated by manufacturers that they haven't still find the vaccine which is "100%" effective. Though as many times I would say, if you are unlucky enough to get the virus after having the vaccine, the effects are now different. You will most likely just have a flu then you're fine already.

You mean a common cold (corronavirus) now upgrades to influanza  (flu), which is a hundred times worse.
Thanks but no thanks.


Skip the test and stay healthy