vapourminer
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
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October 28, 2020, 10:14:52 AM |
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Another point in favor of using for authorization purpose HW security keys instead of Trezor (or Ledger) is that the latter has more electronics components inside (display itself and related biasing circuits it requires) thereby wallets in general are less reliable devices, so one shouldn't trust them his/her accounts, could fail at any time.
true but the trezor allows written seed based backup of your 2fa master code (whatever you call it). it can be recreated on another trezor, if needed. once a yubikey is toast you need a another that was already registered to that account/device/whatever, or some other secondary way to get in. then delete the old hardware key and add a new one. whereas a new trezor restored with the seed acts exactly like the old one. plug it in and go. trezor makes a great backup to a yubikey imo. both have strengths and weaknesses as far as 2FA. |
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Insanerman
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October 28, 2020, 12:59:03 PM |
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Am I right in understanding that the most functional and convenient to date is the Yubico YubiKey 5 NFC security key? yes, yubico are currently leading here. i would recommend to test couple different models since they have different workflows (nfc/port) Not unless a user wanted to have a more useful security key such as using Ledger and Trezor as their 2FA physical key -- in which is much expensive yet the features and use, even the security measures, can be the same level as the YubiKey but on the upper hand when it comes to being a hardware wallet as well (which is really their focus). Hence, if the user were more onto cryptocurrencies and a security-sensitive with his holdings, yet a little wanted to be secured in passwords per se, I guess Ledger and Trezor are better. (just my .69 cents) |
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Mandarava
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October 30, 2020, 03:58:56 PM |
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The yubikey is small and very tight to the touch, and really has nothing to break unless it is exposed to very high temperatures. Therefore, in terms of reliability, it is great.
He is not afraid of water, he is not afraid of falls even from great heights. The same cannot be said about Trezor.
If the Trezor gets caught in heavy rain or falls into the water, then everything will be over with him. Therefore, they are both good, but each in their own area.
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vapourminer
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
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October 30, 2020, 04:07:00 PM |
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The yubikey is small and very tight to the touch, and really has nothing to break unless it is exposed to very high temperatures. Therefore, in terms of reliability, it is great.
He is not afraid of water, he is not afraid of falls even from great heights. The same cannot be said about Trezor.
If the Trezor gets caught in heavy rain or falls into the water, then everything will be over with him. Therefore, they are both good, but each in their own area.
fresh or grey water in a trezor may not kill it if dried/cleaned properly. yubikey doesnt care of course. but step on a trezor vs step on a yubikey. yeah no contest. but ive dropped a trezor from like 4 or 5 feet dozens of times too. |
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October 30, 2020, 11:14:53 PM
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but step on a trezor vs step on a yubikey. yeah no contest.
There's also a metallic one (made from aluminium), this might be fine when stepped on but it's expensive compared to every other hardware wallet on the market. |
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vapourminer
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
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October 30, 2020, 11:33:52 PM |
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but step on a trezor vs step on a yubikey. yeah no contest.
There's also a metallic one (made from aluminium), this might be fine when stepped on but it's expensive compare to every other hardware wallet on the market. oops forgot that one. i did want a couple when i saw them too. |
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Mandarava
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October 31, 2020, 07:20:26 AM |
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Special leather covers are sold for the Trezor, they certainly increase its mechanical strength, but still, in terms of strength, it loses much to the yubikey. And i think even if the Trezor will is in a leather case and someone weighing over 200 pounds steps on it with their heels, not even a leather case will help him.
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Mandarava
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November 02, 2020, 04:37:36 PM |
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In terms of mechanical strength Yubikey 5 USB-A has the linchpin. When you plug the key horizontally into USB port and accidentally push it down with force while touching golden plate it bends and may break down. To prevent this I plug the key only vertically and touch it on both sides so as not to bend
In any case, the yubikey looks much stronger and more durable than the teresor. It would be nice to get the Trezor developers to think about improving their devices a bit so that they don't look like empty plastic boxes. It would be great if the Trezor was also completely monolithic. |
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