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[nutildah]

Pretty ugly, though at least the slightest bit exciting. Lots of sloppy plays, shit passes, idiotic penalties, and players nobody's ever heard of. Now in the last 2 minutes and down by 9, the Jets seem to have given up completely. Forget about not knowing anything about football, my luck has been absolute shit so far this season. Congrats to the Jets for being the first team to go 0 and 4.

In this instance, the money shifting the line was off - it went from Denver -2 to Denver +1.5 - the line should have been shifting the other way, LOL.

At the conclusion, one of the announcers referred to the game as "Thursday Night Slop." Sounds about right.

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[morvillz7z]

headline before the game last night:

"Winless Jets have 'four flat tires'; will Adam Gase be spared?" - espn

They, the Jets, ain't going to fire Gase, aren't they...but what's the point in keeping him then?

0 and 4 for a second straight year, with pretty tough schedule ahead, Jets closed last season winning 6 of their last 8 games but i will be shocked if they win more than 2 games this season.

Slightly annoyed my O3.5 turnovers prediction did not hit with so many bad/inaccurate passes thrown, Rypien did his job with 3 interceptions, i just needed a little help from Darnold ahhh  At least Broncos QB got 2 TDs:

[Hueristic]

headline before the game last night:

"Winless Jets have 'four flat tires'; will Adam Gase be spared?" - espn

They, the Jets, ain't going to fire Gase, aren't they...but what's the point in keeping him then?

Funny how no-one blames the real reason the Jets suck.

Rex Ryan destroyed that team and their chances for the next half decade or so. It's going to be a slow long recovery to get over all his short sighted incompetent moves.

[xxjumperxx]

Gase is a terrible coach!
Yes the team might have its issues but Gase is just terrible! Im so glad he got fired from my Dolphins!
Jets might go winless until he gets let off!

[ChiBitCTy]

Gase is a terrible coach!
Yes the team might have its issues but Gase is just terrible! Im so glad he got fired from my Dolphins!
Jets might go winless until he gets let off!

The funny thing is that Bears fan ( I'm a chicagoan / bears fan ) were freaking out when he left the team.  My dear god I haven't seen a team as bad as the Jets in quite some time ( your Dolphins aren't too far off however lol ).  That being said , and he is a god awful coach, the Jets are with out question trying to lose to gain better draft position for next year.  Wonder if they'll take what's his name from Clemson ( I would sure hope so).

[South Park]

I feel like the Jets will win against the Broncos. At first I really favor the Broncos in this matchup but now that you mentioned they're starting with their third string QB I think they're in a dire spot here. With that said i'm taking the Jets here and hopefully they get their first win.  

Edit : Well the Jets continuing to prove me wrong once again. 

This will be the first time I've rooted for the Jets in... possibly ever.

As someone that had to keep track of the Jets and watch some of their games, albeit unwillingly, I can say they never fail to disappoint and have been difficult to watch for a long time, this was a game that in theory they should have won and well they didn’t, right now it seems the Jets are playing to get the first draft pick of the next year and at this rate it seems they will get it easily as there is no team that is this bad.

The funny thing is that Bears fan ( I'm a chicagoan / bears fan ) were freaking out when he left the team.  My dear god I haven't seen a team as bad as the Jets in quite some time ( your Dolphins aren't too far off however lol ).

The difference is that at least the Dolphins show good things from time to time and you see a minimum of competence, they also still have a wild card in Tua which we do not know how it will turn out, and if Tua shows something similar to what both Burrow and Herbert have shown then the first pick the Dolphins used is justified, but when I see the Jets almost nothing works and I do not see how they can turn it around in a relatively quick manner.

[ChiBitCTy]

I feel like the Jets will win against the Broncos. At first I really favor the Broncos in this matchup but now that you mentioned they're starting with their third string QB I think they're in a dire spot here. With that said i'm taking the Jets here and hopefully they get their first win.  

Edit : Well the Jets continuing to prove me wrong once again. 

This will be the first time I've rooted for the Jets in... possibly ever.

As someone that had to keep track of the Jets and watch some of their games, albeit unwillingly, I can say they never fail to disappoint and have been difficult to watch for a long time, this was a game that in theory they should have won and well they didn’t, right now it seems the Jets are playing to get the first draft pick of the next year and at this rate it seems they will get it easily as there is no team that is this bad.

The funny thing is that Bears fan ( I'm a chicagoan / bears fan ) were freaking out when he left the team.  My dear god I haven't seen a team as bad as the Jets in quite some time ( your Dolphins aren't too far off however lol ).

The difference is that at least the Dolphins show good things from time to time and you see a minimum of competence, they also still have a wild card in Tua which we do not know how it will turn out, and if Tua shows something similar to what both Burrow and Herbert have shown then the first pick the Dolphins used is justified, but when I see the Jets almost nothing works and I do not see how they can turn it around in a relatively quick manner.

I hear ya with Tua.  I personally don't know his game very well but I'm sure you are having dreams of a Kyler Murrary or Mahomes type player.  I once had this dream for Mitchell Trubisky lol.  It's actually not very funny as it keeps me up at nights, seriously lol.

What do you think about Tannehill leaving and then going absolutely bonkers for Tennessee? I suppose a change of scenery can really jump start someones career..but you have to wonder how badly Miami may have been miss-managing him. 

[vella85]

Just looking at a couple of games on the surface with not doing an in depth review, I like the Giants to cover the spread but I am waiting to see if it is pushed out to +14 or +14.5 as I would feel more comfortable. I also like the Bills to cover the spread, what do you guys think of these two picks?

[wheelz1200]

Just looking at a couple of games on the surface with not doing an in depth review, I like the Giants to cover the spread but I am waiting to see if it is pushed out to +14 or +14.5 as I would feel more comfortable. I also like the Bills to cover the spread, what do you guys think of these two picks?

Honestly I'm a giants fan and I like rhe rams in this one even if its over 14.  The giants offense and defense is horrendous I mean historically bad.  I can see this being another 36-17 type of game.  They have zero run game and danny is running for his life with this O line.  Rams are going to have a field day with them.

[bbc.reporter]

Just looking at a couple of games on the surface with not doing an in depth review, I like the Giants to cover the spread but I am waiting to see if it is pushed out to +14 or +14.5 as I would feel more comfortable. I also like the Bills to cover the spread, what do you guys think of these two picks?

We are together on the Bills hehe. I also like the Washington Redskins to cover +13.5 - +14. I speculate the Ravens' mood will not be very positive after the loss to the Chiefs. Lamar might be thinking Herbert is better than him hehehehe.

Also, I know everyone hates the Cowboys in here, however, they might cover -4.5 in their home stadium.

Who has Chiefs -7? That was lucky. Cam Newton has the coronavirus.

[tyKiwanuka]

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Honestly I'm a giants fan and I like rhe rams in this one even if its over 14.  The giants offense and defense is horrendous I mean historically bad.  I can see this being another 36-17 type of game.  They have zero run game and danny is running for his life with this O line.  Rams are going to have a field day with them.

Agree, though I don't think the Giants will score 17 here, maybe just a couple of FG's, if they get good field position via turnovers

Also, I know everyone hates the Cowboys in here, however, they might cover -4.5 in their home stadium.

This caught my attention too, but more the ML. Browns won two in a row now and should have gotten some confidence, but it was "just" against Bengals/Football Team. If Dallas is able to win the TO battle and score a bit more on their own TO, they should comfortably win this.


I also like the Bucs -7 against the Chargers. Herbert had another good game, but the overall Chargers performance was not as good as against the Chiefs, which is normal when the hype has gone and there are no special circumstances (like playing your first game in your new stadium). On top of that, LA will miss important pieces of their defense with CB Harris, DE Ingram and DT Jones out for today; Bosa is not 100%.

I somehow like the Bengals to get their first W today against Jacksonville. This is probably because I saw the Jaguars last week and it was just pathetic (though the first two games were very solid, but divisional matchups with extra motiviation). Bengals should have already won @Steelers last week and this 1.75 today looks good enough to give it a try imo.

I won't touch the Raiders game, but wish everyone good luck with their bets on the Bills, I wouldn't feel comfortable betting on them today They struggled against Rams/Dolphins already and Raiders are a different team in home/away games.

[nutildah]

I also like the Bucs -7 against the Chargers. Herbert had another good game, but the overall Chargers performance was not as good as against the Chiefs, which is normal when the hype has gone and there are no special circumstances (like playing your first game in your new stadium). On top of that, LA will miss important pieces of their defense with CB Harris, DE Ingram and DT Jones out for today; Bosa is not 100%.

Even though I'm a Chargers fan this is an extremely sensible pick and I'm gonna take it. I need a win after 3 losses in a row. Seems like an easy-peasy victory for Tampa Bay right here. Now that I have almost all games available on TV (Xbox rather), Sundays have been the best day of the week.

[morvillz7z]

Here are my losing bets for today:

main 4 acca: Cardinals ML + Seahawks ML + Tampa ML + 49ers ML - something over 3 total odds
not so main 4 acca: Tampa -6.5 + Bears/Colts O43.5 + Dolphins/Seahawks O54.5 + Bills -3 - just over 10 total odds
singles: Minshew O1.5 pass TD, Fitzpatrick O1.5 pass TD, Wilson O2.5 pass TD

edit;

Panthers really surprise me.

Indeed, back to back wins, i didn't not see it coming, as a surprising win as you can get.
Cardinals ruined my main ticket, lost the second one as well, short just one point on the Over Seahawks/Dolphins
Fitzmagic with zero pass TD!
Yo Russell Wilson where are the 5 fucking TDs? 
Only Minshew was able to get his 2

[tyKiwanuka]

Cowboys getting embarrassed by the Browns, who are averaging 9yds per rush so far I really like the offense of the Cowboys - they are exiting to watch - but if the defense can't stop a nosebleed......

Cardinals ML

Panthers really surprise me. I thought they would struggle mightily this season, but they are really doing good.....since CMC is injured. Just shows that a single player isn't that important and markets often overreact when important players are missing (unless it's a QB of course).
Chargers also doing very well despite all those players missing on defense. But Tampa should still win this, HC will be tough to beat though.

[ralle14]

That 4th quarter attempt by the Cowboys was impressive it almost felt like they're about to win it until they made a bad return kick that was caught in the 50 yard line then escalated in to a quick touchdown by OBJ. 

[vella85]

I got two parlays going at the moment and with one of them I just need the Bills to win and in the other I need the Bills to win and the Giants to cover +14.5 which I must say they are doing much better then most expected so we'll see how this one turns out. Anyway the big one for me is for the Bills to win as then my risky parlay will hit thanks to the Browns causing an upset which I thought they would.

[Hueristic]

I got two parlays going at the moment and with one of them I just need the Bills to win and in the other I need the Bills to win and the Giants to cover +14.5 which I must say they are doing much better then most expected so we'll see how this one turns out. Anyway the big one for me is for the Bills to win as then my risky parlay will hit thanks to the Browns causing an upset which I thought they would.

Nice.

[ChiBitCTy]

At the moment I’m looking decent to win 2 of my 3 fantasy football leagues this week and that makes me a happy man.  I’m obsessed , it’s sad lol.  Interesting day of games so far. Of course my bears are sucking ass as I expected. Big dick Nick , more like little dick nick smh 

So at this point there’s no debate who the best team in the league is, but who’s number 2 and 3 for you guys ? I think Seattle deserves the second spot and Bills / GB tie for third.  Too bad Seattle has a shitty D, I thunk it’s going to kill their shot at a championship. 

[nutildah]

I got two parlays going at the moment and with one of them I just need the Bills to win and in the other I need the Bills to win and the Giants to cover +14.5 which I must say they are doing much better then most expected so we'll see how this one turns out. Anyway the big one for me is for the Bills to win as then my risky parlay will hit thanks to the Browns causing an upset which I thought they would.

Hey, congrats! It was touch-and-go with the Bills game for a few minutes but now you've gotta be feeling pretty positive about the outcome. Round of beers for everybody, on you! 

Luckily I got refunded from the Bucs / Chargers game as the score hit the line exactly. I plowed that back into Buffalo... My total gambling balance is still down 50% for this season but I'm gonna keep at it.

[tyKiwanuka]

short just one point on the Over Seahawks/Dolphins

It was pretty hard to find an under in the early games, but you found it All other games went over - ARI/CAR depends on the line, could have been push - and a whopping 60.75 pts were scored on average, never seen anything like that before

So at this point there’s no debate who the best team in the league is, but who’s number 2 and 3 for you guys ? I think Seattle deserves the second spot and Bills / GB tie for third.  Too bad Seattle has a shitty D, I thunk it’s going to kill their shot at a championship.  

For me:

1. Chiefs
2. Ravens
3. Seahawks
4. Packers

Then Bills, Patriots, Steelers in no particular order. Lots of AFC teams and I would add 49ers from NFC if not for the injury trouble they have atm. I am not yet sold on the Bills, because so far they only played Jets/Dolphins/Rams/Raiders. They will play Titans/Chiefs/Patriots/Seahawks in their next 4/5 games, maybe I will have to change my mind after those games. Same goes for Steelers, who have yet to play a top team.


The NFC East is so bad this year A combined record of 2-12-1 and one of those 2 wins came from a divisional game. Only Dallas was able to get a "real" win for the division and it was this miracle against the Falcons, which they should have lost, if not for some Falcons players messing things up with the onside kick. But Cowboys and Giants will meet next week, so it will be 3 wins for the NFC East in seven days for sure.