Win a Presidential plane...

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Ok, today we have a huge update about the topic. The Mexican president decides to make for this a reality or kind of...

To explain this i will talk in Mexican Pesos, so, remember 1 dollar = 20 pesos.

Today AMLO (Mexican President) decide to make raffle and he doit public, but he changes the rules of the game:

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As you can see in the ticker, there will be 100 winners of $20,000,000 pesos. And there will be a total of 6,000,000 tickets $500 each ticket.

So, the total amount to get from this raffle is $3,000,000,000 Pesos, $2B will be to pay the 100 winners, and the other $1B will be for the plain maintenance in the next 2 years, hospital equipment and other stuff.

No one will win a presidential plane, only the value of the plain... For me, this sounds like a big scam. What do you think guys?

This is definitely problematic, if the government wanted to get rid of the plane the raffle made sense, it will be a weird prize but one that is incredibly valuable, but now the plane is not part of the raffle at all, they are going to keep it and while the prizes are good this is very different than what they promised at the beginning, it is not a scam in my eyes but it is definitely a huge change, did they explained why they want to keep the plane?

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This is definitely problematic, if the government wanted to get rid of the plane the raffle made sense, it will be a weird prize but one that is incredibly valuable, but now the plane is not part of the raffle at all, they are going to keep it and while the prizes are good this is very different than what they promised at the beginning, it is not a scam in my eyes but it is definitely a huge change, did they explained why they want to keep the plane?

I agree with you, the totally chance the rules, the prize is totally different from what they promise from the start. They didn't explain why they will keep the plain, but some rumors are saying they get a demand from Boing saying they can't sell or raffle or do something with the plain until they finish the debt with them.

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This is definitely problematic, if the government wanted to get rid of the plane the raffle made sense, it will be a weird prize but one that is incredibly valuable, but now the plane is not part of the raffle at all, they are going to keep it and while the prizes are good this is very different than what they promised at the beginning, it is not a scam in my eyes but it is definitely a huge change, did they explained why they want to keep the plane?

Yes, as far as I know, they want to make fund for some government projects, the money that they will be collected will help them to build more infrastructure, build new programs and many more, also the president is the one who are going to sell this plane, so it is sure that this is true and it will be a win-win for the bettors and for the government of that country.

I agree with you, the totally chance the rules, the prize is totally different from what they promise from the start. They didn't explain why they will keep the plain, but some rumors are saying they get a demand from Boing saying they can't sell or raffle or do something with the plain until they finish the debt with them.

Oh, they have debt? does the government already pay the plane to Boeing? in that case, I think they need to pay them first before make it as a raffle , for no more problems in the future.

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Yes, as far as I know, they want to make fund for some government projects, the money that they will be collected will help them to build more infrastructure, build new programs and many more, also the president is the one who are going to sell this plane, so it is sure that this is true and it will be a win-win for the bettors and for the government of that country.

The idea was to invest some of the money in hospital equipment. But the numbers arent clear at all. In the end, the plain will not be sold, the loto prize will come from the sold tickets.

Oh, they have debt? does the government already pay the plane to Boeing? in that case, I think they need to pay them first before make it as a raffle , for no more problems in the future.

Yep, the debt still on:

However, Mendoza said the government still owes Banobras 2.7 billion pesos (US $143.7 million) for the purchase of the plane

https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/presidential-dreamliner-remains-unsold/

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This is definitely problematic, if the government wanted to get rid of the plane the raffle made sense, it will be a weird prize but one that is incredibly valuable, but now the plane is not part of the raffle at all, they are going to keep it and while the prizes are good this is very different than what they promised at the beginning, it is not a scam in my eyes but it is definitely a huge change, did they explained why they want to keep the plane?

I agree with you, the totally chance the rules, the prize is totally different from what they promise from the start. They didn't explain why they will keep the plain, but some rumors are saying they get a demand from Boing saying they can't sell or raffle or do something with the plain until they finish the debt with them.

I am confused here, they are wanting to sell it while they have debt because of it, why not just give that plane back? I don't know how these works but his predecessor bought a plane in his pocket or the government's pocket? If he bought it in his own pocket why is he even allowing the government to use it as a  presidential plane if it is his private plane? The president doesn't even want to ride it, he took normal flights.

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Yep, the debt still on:

However, Mendoza said the government still owes Banobras 2.7 billion pesos (US $143.7 million) for the purchase of the plane

https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/presidential-dreamliner-remains-unsold/

To be honest, now I'm completely lost with this story. If they needed money for hospitals and stuff, why didn't they sell the plane when there were actual buyers?

Since the plane was relocated to the United States, 42 potential buyers have been identified, 12 expressed interest in purchasing the plane and six made offers, two of which were above its estimated value, Mendoza said.

Could it be that they were planning the raffle already, the raffle with which they could get the money without giving out the plane?

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Yep, the debt still on:

However, Mendoza said the government still owes Banobras 2.7 billion pesos (US $143.7 million) for the purchase of the plane

https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/presidential-dreamliner-remains-unsold/

To be honest, now I'm completely lost with this story. If they needed money for hospitals and stuff, why didn't they sell the plane when there were actual buyers?

They needed the money but I don't think that then can just sell it due to the said reason above.

Even if they can get an actual buyer, they can't still determine if this will be sold as soon as they need to. Also, before they can sold this Presidential plane, they need to finish their debt first.

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Yep, the debt still on:

However, Mendoza said the government still owes Banobras 2.7 billion pesos (US $143.7 million) for the purchase of the plane

https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/presidential-dreamliner-remains-unsold/

To be honest, now I'm completely lost with this story. If they needed money for hospitals and stuff, why didn't they sell the plane when there were actual buyers?

They needed the money but I don't think that then can just sell it due to the said reason above.

Even if they can get an actual buyer, they can't still determine if this will be sold as soon as they need to. Also, before they can sold this Presidential plane, they need to finish their debt first.

They should really pay up their obligation first and i dont know that its possible for a thing to become a prize or some sort even if its still not totally unsold or completely owned by you.

Its quite a shameful thing for this kind of revelation which they are tying to make money by using that plane lottery hype but totally covering up the main issue?

Wondering if people would able to trust this kind of lottery.

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This topic is getting complex with time. This week the president gets a $2,000M pesos check and he say the money will be used to pay the 100 winning tickets... And this week he makes deals with business men to sell them $1,500M pesos in tickets (The half of the tickets).

So, since there is no clear where the money comes from and what will be used for, and since there will not be a presidential plane in the raffle,  i will lock this thread.