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February 18, 2020, 03:43:02 AM
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We all read threads where people say that it is impossible to win against the house because the edge that is always against a gambler.

But often when I am playing dice and I see chat and view stats of some gamblers there are actually some profiles that show profits while some show loss so my question is, do people actually make profits from dice or the stats are misleading or something?

And I am talking about regular gamblers who I mean are active in chat almost daily so it's not like they made profit once and stopped gambling, they are active and gamble almost every day so how some guys are managing profits while others are failing?

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In gambling there are people that turns negative with regards to their overall bet and there are very few gamblers who have positive output in their overall bet. So it's not impossible to win in any gambling websites but as what we have said maybe the edge of winners are likely 25% out of 100% gamblers.

There are lucky and most of the winners are wise or they have some techniques that let them win in gambling websites.

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February 18, 2020, 04:07:39 AM
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Of course there are gamblers who actually wins,
They are the reason why other gamblers doesn't quit on gambling because they are the proof that there could be someone who actually wins in gambling.
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February 18, 2020, 04:12:58 AM
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There are gamblers who win. Maybe those who know when to quit and are aware that gambling for long hours will result in losses. I sometimes gamble for long hours and most of the time this happens when I double my money or even sometimes triple my money, I lose all the time when I become greedy and try to extend playing hoping for more win. That is why it is important to know when to quit, even if you're lucky in your bets, your luck won't last for a whole day, at some point the house will get all your money before you know it.

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February 18, 2020, 04:39:05 AM
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I can confidently say that there are gamblers that actually won.

From dice games, sports bettings, cockfighting to lotteries, I knew a lot of people that gained their profit there. It is just that people are continuously betting, what I am saying here is that if a gambler continuously gambles, the more they are losing money. If a gambler continuously gambles, the higher the risk they are taking, the higher the chance they will lose.

Most of those gamblers I am saying won in lotteries and in cockfighting. They started businesses from the money they've won. Some started raising roosters that they could use or sell. Did they continue gambling? Yes, they did but the fact that they already built something proves they won.
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February 18, 2020, 05:21:33 AM
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Of course, there are actually gamblers who can win,
Especially when it comes to games like dice or lottery. This games are more on luck that is why the chances to win is very minimal. And those who can win always can be considered as really lucky or maybe they have some sort of strategy that they used to consecutively win in games.
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February 18, 2020, 05:29:53 AM
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I myself actually do some winnings in crypto gambling. It's just that, I was so greedy and my target profit is exceeding that I wanted to earn more so at the end the house will always win against me. The problem is that we can't manage well our emotions and our bank roll. Players usually win but busted so many times, too. Well, it's gambling. We should always accept the risks we should ways gamble only the amount that we can afford to lose.
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February 18, 2020, 05:38:46 AM
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Gambling wins or doesn't win depending on how a person understands what he is playing, poker, dice, balls etc.

If you are proficient in guessing and satristik gambling dice your chances of winning are 70% and if you don't understand the dice just from someone else's suggestion the chance of losing to you is 90%.

In my understanding gambling win and lose is very influential on these addicts expertise in the game.

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February 18, 2020, 07:22:18 AM
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Actually yes, many people win. For example I play on cryptocurrency casinos like CryptoGamble and to be honest never used regular ones. I find it more entertaining and more convenient 'cause I can use some of mine BTC or ETH. I take it as a fun, not as a main way to gain some income, I don't have a problem when to stop playing and that's the point.
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February 18, 2020, 07:22:33 AM
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Of course, there are actually gamblers who can win,
Especially when it comes to games like dice or lottery. This games are more on luck that is why the chances to win is very minimal. And those who can win always can be considered as really lucky or maybe they have some sort of strategy that they used to consecutively win in games.

Some people prefer to hide their winning stories from other people and keep winning for themselves. If we can know how many of them win, maybe there are not many people who win the money. In the dice gambling game itself, many people who lose their money without they realize how big money they already spend, so they still chasing the win money. But yes, the gamblers win in many gambling games.

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February 18, 2020, 07:33:24 AM
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Of course, there are actually gamblers who can win,
Especially when it comes to games like dice or lottery. This games are more on luck that is why the chances to win is very minimal. And those who can win always can be considered as really lucky or maybe they have some sort of strategy that they used to consecutively win in games.

Some people prefer to hide their winning stories from other people and keep winning for themselves. If we can know how many of them win, maybe there are not many people who win the money. In the dice gambling game itself, many people who lose their money without they realize how big money they already spend, so they still chasing the win money. But yes, the gamblers win in many gambling games.

There's no need to verify how many who wins because the obvious answer is there are more losers than winners and just like a business simple logic, when income is higher than your expenses, you'll end up profitable, that's the status of most dice gambling sites that's why they are still operating until now.

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February 18, 2020, 08:04:28 AM
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Well, I can tell you how that happens basically some people are smart and they make make profits and they actually don't gamble big enough to loose that initially gained profit stats. For example I win 0.01 bitcoins and now I can make sure I don't gamble higher than 0.001 BTC at all so this means I can never go in negative stats and another reason I have seen is some people love to have winning stats and they chat all day but won't gamble just to manage their stats as it is and if they feel like gambling they can make a new account and gamble there.
Creating a new account just to save your positive stats from an older account doesnt make sense though. It would just lead to multi accounting since most gambling sites are so strict in creating a new account.

Some people prefer to hide their winning stories from other people and keep winning for themselves. If we can know how many of them win, maybe there are not many people who win the money. In the dice gambling game itself, many people who lose their money without they realize how big money they already spend, so they still chasing the win money. But yes, the gamblers win in many gambling games.
People don't like to share their wins because it could put themselves at risk and apart from those people winning some of them have probably lost their winnings on another casino.

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February 18, 2020, 09:32:12 AM
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Is there a popular belief saying that all players lose in the long run? You do lose as soon as you don't accept the fact that you've won and turn greedy.

Yes, since the house edge is always there, and since it's working against a player, many people (at least here, on this forum) argue that everyone will lose in the long run. They do have a point to some extent, because most people will definitely lose in the long run, and not because they are greedy or anything, but because of the math: you have more chances of losing than that of winning because of the house edge. And if you think that, with a good self-control, you can always withdraw after winning a certain percentage of your balance, and thus stay in profit  continuously ... well, it can happen, but only because of luck, not because your strategy is so good. And you should always remember that in a dice game, regardless of your strategy, you are more likely to lose.

In short, people don't lose because they are greedy, and they don't win because they have great self-control, or whatever. All of that happens because of luck and luck only.

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February 18, 2020, 10:23:55 AM
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Yes, the stats can be real for most trusted gambling sites!!!It can be false to fraudulent gambling sites.You can win if you are lucky and in a reliable place, Gambling venues are created to make a lot of money, not to provide assistance to those in need Grin Grin

But if you think of the ratio between those who wins on luck and those who lose you can see a big difference in favor of those who lose, my wild guess is for every 8 losers there are two winners, house edge and the administrator will not allow majority of their gambler to win, if that happens they are very close to bankcruptsy.
i think the ratio is too low,for me it is 2 out of 10 who wins and lose,and this is what my experience tells me .
i had been into gambling for more than 2 decades and what i learn is i only win 2x in every 10 games and sometimes it is worst than that so the thing is more chances of losing compared to winning.









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February 18, 2020, 10:37:26 AM
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Of course, there are actually gamblers who can win,
Especially when it comes to games like dice or lottery. This games are more on luck that is why the chances to win is very minimal. And those who can win always can be considered as really lucky or maybe they have some sort of strategy that they used to consecutively win in games.

Some people prefer to hide their winning stories from other people and keep winning for themselves. If we can know how many of them win, maybe there are not many people who win the money. In the dice gambling game itself, many people who lose their money without they realize how big money they already spend, so they still chasing the win money. But yes, the gamblers win in many gambling games.

There's no need to verify how many who wins because the obvious answer is there are more losers than winners and just like a business simple logic, when income is higher than your expenses, you'll end up profitable, that's the status of most dice gambling sites that's why they are still operating until now.
Indeed!

It already proves out that the house always wins or this business is profitable due to this reason.If they werent winning in the end then we wont see lots of them.
Its indeed a simple logic or to think that there are indeed lots of losers to compensate to those who do win money while they do play gambling.
The true essence on playing gambling is to get entertainment but people goes far way beyond to that motive and messing their own lives because of it.

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February 18, 2020, 10:38:44 AM
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You should expect the chat to be misleading if there is no way to prove the claims. This doesn't mean that people don't win though. Winning reasonable amount of money shouldn't happen too often. And the numbers of big winners should be small.
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I think they are after all why would they keep on coming back if they are only losing all of the time?
Most of the old gamblers could have manage to do it before and I think there are some who still manage to win most of the time.
A gambling site would run out of gamblers if no one is winning on their site.

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February 18, 2020, 05:53:56 PM
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Depends on the game but more often than not the gamblers do not win all that much, even the people who have won a lot of money from gambling has actually managed to lose all of it back while spending a lot of money during the process, just to give an example there was a poker player who said he won over 10 million dollars and then lost it all but he claims he has spent close to 2 million dollars during the process and that means he didn't "lost it all back" he just lost the ones heh as left. That kind of "win" happens all the time, I don't know if that is win or lose deal because in the end dude is left with zero but at least he has a good amount of period of time in his life that he lived like rich and that kinda means that is good enough for some people.
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Gamblers can win, but only a few of them. (Whatever game it is, it's all just the same)

It is still possible to win against the gambling house because we can't call it fair if there is no gambler who can win. But the thing is, most of the time, gamblers lose to the house.

About the stats of winnings of those people that you see in live chats, it is real but it is only the amount of money they win, the amount of money they lose is always not included or not being shown to the public.


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February 18, 2020, 07:29:09 PM
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Yes, some gamblers do actually win but the ration is really very steep. Although the favor is in the house's court most of the time, but still, that is why it is called gambling - anything can happen. For example I take part in 10 gambles in a week and invest 10 bucks in total and lose 9 of them and by chance win 12 bucks in one gamble. So that will inspire me to gamble more whereas 50 more people like me are losing those 9 gambles which is a big profit for the house.  Roll Eyes

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We all read threads where people say that it is impossible to win against the house because the edge that is always against a gambler.

But often when I am playing dice and I see chat and view stats of some gamblers there are actually some profiles that show profits while some show loss so my question is, do people actually make profits from dice or the stats are misleading or something?

And I am talking about regular gamblers who I mean are active in chat almost daily so it's not like they made profit once and stopped gambling, they are active and gamble almost every day so how some guys are managing profits while others are failing?

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I have won few times but, the ratio to win and lose will always be 5:1. Where if I have lost 5 times I have also won 1 time. It also does not mean it happens every day, the ratio does change on some odd day but overall the house always wins.

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