No threats to inflict bodily harm, death threats.

[AB de Royse777]

Can I get attention of a mod here please.

How old are you anyway?

my age is enough to make you unconscious.

There are many more to the contexts which are available here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5225802.msg53856333#msg53856333

Unofficial rule #8 says:

No threats to inflict bodily harm, death threats.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0

Cheers,

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[CoinCode_sh]

Hi,
Use "report to moderator" function for more quickly response then create a new topic.

[lovesmayfamilis]

I do not think that YOSHIE threatened you with anything. You should not continue your argument throughout the forum. It's time for everyone to calm down and get a thicker skin, says LoyceV.
Then you will not react like that to some kind of hot word.
Most likely these are translation difficulties, and you all misunderstood.

[AB de Royse777]

Good to see a response here bud.

Most likely these are translation difficulties, and you all misunderstood.

For some reason he started to think I am a girl and he wants to have a piece of me in the ladies room.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5225802.msg53856787#msg53856787

Edited the post after creating this topic so that things look lighter then it was before.

Also

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5225802.msg53856255#msg53856255
Edited this post even further later so that it looks like he is acting dumb.

I will keep Yoshie aside though but noticed Coolcryptovator and his pal TalkStar. Coincidentally both of them noticed it in the same evening/night.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5225802.msg53855512#msg53855512

"I will keep Yoshie aside though" (my statement in a clause) = "get rid of me...." (YOSHIE's statement)
How it's as threat here?

I too started to think it's a translation difficulties from YOSHIE assuming English is not his first language but these editings after creating this topic in here do not look good to me. Those were done to change directions?

Read this:

my age is enough to make you unconscious

And then read this:

my age is enough to make you unconscious,ladies' room

1st one sounds physical threat to me. He is literally saying he will knock me out! I hope I was able to clear it now.

Hi,
Use "report to moderator" function for more quickly response then create a new topic.

Yeah I reported it after seeing your response with the link of this topic.

[suchmoon]

1st one sounds physical threat to me. He is literally saying he will knock me out! I hope I was able to clear it now.

Maybe he meant you'll be shocked to unconsciousness when you find out that he's 287 years old

No, he's not literally saying that he will knock you out. Literally would mean that he said "I will knock you out". That would be a threat. What he actually said - I don't see it as a threat, more like bragging, but if you feel it's a threat - report to moderators and let them deal with it.

[TECSHARE]

I don't see any way this could reasonably be interpreted as a threat. I would suggest you drop this as it will acheive nothing.

[unibitcoinist]

Although it can or can not be directed as a threat, YOSHIE seems to be very rude and aggresive on Royse777 on this matter which should not be.
If it was not a threat, why YOSHIE would bother editing his reply now?

[suchmoon]

Although it can or can be directed as a threat, YOSHIE seems to be very rude and aggresive on Royse777 on this matter which should not be.
If it was not a threat, why YOSHIE would bother editing his reply now?

There is some sort of conflict between them, which I can't be bothered to look into, and both are acting... not in the most mature way. But YOSHIE is hard to understand on a good day so it's really a huge stretch to interpret a vague statement like that as an intentional threat.

[unibitcoinist]

it's really a huge stretch to interpret a vague statement like that as an intentional threat.

That must not be the standard to define a threat. Otherwise, someone can say someone "I will kill you." and later claim argue that I was drunk and it was not intentional.

[Rengga Jati]

What is necessary to discuss here? This seems just to show your conflict to him (YOSHIE). Your title thread doesn't really reflect what YOSHIE said, IMO. If you learn it deeply, it is quite different.

-snip- my age is enough to make you unconscious.

Unofficial rule #8 says:

No threats to inflict bodily harm, death threats.

In my view, what YOSHIE said is not a serious threat. What makes you think a serious threat? Word "unconscious"? How he can do it? Does he know you in real life, buddy? If NO, then you have no reason to worry about it.

Anyway, your perception may be different than what YOSHIE means. Maybe YOSHIE stated it only for a joke. Who knows?   So, I suggest you to NOT hastily conclude it!

*Regarding your conflict, I don't want to bother it. But I think it is better to end it because it only presents worthless/unnecessary debate. Both of you are great members, it is very unfortunate to see that conflict. Be mature guys, don't waste your time on unnecessary things.  

[hilariousetc]

I'm not sure what he's trying to say but I don't think those are threats and especially not death threats, probably just bad English. The use of 'unconscious' here I think he's just meaning something like shock instead. Maybe it's similar to saying something like if you knew my age you would be shocked.

As others have said, I would try to move on unless any other direct threats are made.

[LoyceV]

Can I get attention of a mod here please.

How old are you anyway?

my age is enough to make you unconscious.

Please, let's not expand the forum drama on scemantics any further! YOSHIE isn't a native English speaker, my guess would be the word he's looking for is "staggering".
And no, I didn't bother to look for context.

I do not think that YOSHIE threatened you with anything. You should not continue your argument throughout the forum. It's time for everyone to calm down and get a thicker skin, says LoyceV.

At least someone is listening

But he said............. Grow up! I'm really tired of the drama on this forum. Might I suggest a new rule, prohibiting anyone from creating a drama-thread if he didn't first create at least 2 good topics about Bitcoin?
Another good rule would be to prohibit the creation of such a thread without first placing the other person on ignore.

[AB de Royse777]

I suggest you to NOT hastily conclude it!

Yes you are right and human nature is - when they start conflicting with someone they starts seeing issues with everything they do. I really need to come out from this kind of behavior that drives me crazy and takes my control over from me.

After closely considering the responses here from others and giving a short break to me (of having few fags and some vodka) I would like to withdraw the accusations from YOSHIE to practice the good deeds of the forum and having a wide mind towards everything happens in the community.

I will lock this topic end of the day.

Cheers,

Update

Might I suggest a new rule, prohibiting anyone from creating a drama-thread if he didn't first create at least 2 good topics about Bitcoin?

Okay if you had not the bold part then I could create such topics (drama) at least few a week /s

[DireWolfM14]

@Royse777
I'm sorry to see you go through this.  I know you've recently been attacked for your points of view, which is unfortunate.  It would be nice if people could be more respectful of one another even when they vehemently disagree.  It seems obvious to me that you prefer to behave as if you were not hidden behind the security and anonymity of the internet, and I respect that.  

If you are going to engage in internet debates, then I suggest you expect some backlash.  Try not to take it so personally, and try to be more resilient when being insulted.  It's not healthy to allow that stuff to bother you, and it's not going to help your situation if you keep making a fuss about being bothered.  In fact, many will take that as a sign of victory, and in some ways it is.  You are granting your opponents the power to aggravate you.  You and you alone can give them that power, and only you can take it away.

[YOSHIE]

I'm sorry to everyone here, I'm not discussing it again "I'm wrong and I'm right" about this problem, everything is clear, in judgment, There are some suggestions from my close friends, about this that invites me to the positive things behind all this that is happening.

Honestly I don't like this kind of drama and its essence; "The bullet cannot come out of the weapon if no one presses the trigger. What happens is one positive thing that I can take from this incident, that is that human beings are not perfect sometimes good and sometimes bad.
I can only say that: if lust cannot be controlled and destruction can be obtained, both in the real world or on the internet.

Don't, press the trigger again.

[JollyGood]

I am glad to see the accusation withdrawn, there is nothing of substance to add further except I hope the matter ends here.

[alani123]

I do not think that YOSHIE threatened you with anything. You should not continue your argument throughout the forum. It's time for everyone to calm down and get a thicker skin, says LoyceV.
Then you will not react like that to some kind of hot word.
Most likely these are translation difficulties, and you all misunderstood.

Honestly though, threats, even when not active, are threats. Claiming that you are strong enough to put someone on the ground has the same effect as a more direct threat.

Imagine you disagree with me and I say "continue and I'll harm you".
Wouldn't be that much further away from "I could harm you if I wanted to".

In the second case, it's just implied that I don't like what you say and that it could happen that you get harmed by my actions if you continue. Both threats pose a threat to free speech and intercourse. I'd rather not have either. No reason to excuse somebody for advocating violence. Albeit not actively.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I do not think that YOSHIE threatened you with anything.

I don't think so either, just based on the wording of that post.  Honestly, I have no idea how to interpret that--but if that was a reply to my question, I wouldn't take it as any sort of threat.  I might be puzzled as to what he meant and might even ask for clarification, but I wouldn't see it as mean-spirited and certainly wouldn't report it.

But that's just me.  Since it's such an odd response and is open to whatever interpretation you give it, I can see how it might be perceived as malicious.  The language barrier on this forum doesn't help matters either.

probably just bad English.

That's what I was thinking.  If he really wanted to be threatening, I'm sure he could make it clearer.

[suchmoon]

Wouldn't be that much further away from "I could harm you if I wanted to".

Except this wasn't even close to that, especially given the language difference. For example there are hyperbolic expressions in colloquial English that translated into my native language would sound rude or even threatening ("I'd kill for this very tasty triple chocolate glazed donut that you're eating"). Let's just allow some space for that.

[JollyGood]

Going a step further it might have been better for the OP to simply ask for complete clarification in the same thread the alleged threat was made in or just to send a PM asking for an explanation. Starting a thread without taking one of those steps seems somewhat inappropriate and unnecessary in my opinion.

There might be more to this than meets the eye and it might be stemming from the time the OP was (according to some) seen to be keen to want to participate in the BestChange campaign whereas others including myself were highly cautious. I cannot say for certain if comments made around that time are still dragging on but it just might be the reason behind what it going on now: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5217470.0

I also think YOSHIE did not threaten the OP but what is important is to factor in how the OP felt reading the post and also how if a threat was made it probably would have been more explicit rather than innuendo.

I do not think that YOSHIE threatened you with anything.

I don't think so either, just based on the wording of that post.  Honestly, I have no idea how to interpret that--but if that was a reply to my question, I wouldn't take it as any sort of threat.  I might be puzzled as to what he meant and might even ask for clarification, but I wouldn't see it as mean-spirited and certainly wouldn't report it.

But that's just me.  Since it's such an odd response and is open to whatever interpretation you give it, I can see how it might be perceived as malicious.  The language barrier on this forum doesn't help matters either.

probably just bad English.

That's what I was thinking.  If he really wanted to be threatening, I'm sure he could make it clearer.