I'm seriously concerned about the money being stuffed down the vaccine toilet.

[franky1]

just to add more slaps to jetcash's lack of research and understanding

based on 35million working aged(tax payers) in the UK
the oxford vaccine phase one equates to 5pence per tax payer cost for trial
the oxford vaccine phase two equates to 12p per tax payer

then its 12p a tax payer per 'cluster' of phase 3. which is not that many multiples because other countries are also doing their own 'cluster' of phase 3.

so in essence. it costs a tax payer well under £1 for all 3 phases of vaccine trials

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[erikoy]

How is it possible that kodak and fuji are making vaccines? A company that has known to be a photography business now getting involved in making vaccines? I did not get the point but no way a government will going to support a vaccine which coul not be reliable as a cure for covid19. If camera companies are now switching their inventions to making vaccines and if found out their vaccines are reliablr then that would be better. But if it will goes wrong then good luck to the US government or the official that has been making it to happen wasting money of the poeple will be more an issue compared to covid19 vaccine.

[franky1]

How is it possible that kodak and fuji are making vaccines?

they are not doing the lab experiment of human studies/bio markers..
they are just making the chemicals needed to make the vials of vaccine

kodak is known for its chemical activation manufacturing process. they know what chemicals react with what

things like a oil found in animals and plants that when combined with a certain molecule binds to a certain receptor known to be used by the immune system.

this kind of oil is natural and makes the vaccine target being absorbed into the immune system thus be more efficient to get the immune to respond to the vaccine rather then wait around

kodak know chemistry and know how to get supplies of chemicals.

so when astra zenika say they need a certain oil. kodak can supply it in bulk

kodak has been making medical ingredients for years. but they are not making the final vaccine compound.. thats for places like astra zenika johnson & johnson and GSK

[Cratoon]

Pretty sure we're at the point where being concerned about vaccine research and development is the last thing to do.

What we really should consider is how lockdown affects the economy.

[Jet Cash]

I agree, but so much money has been squandered on research that will never produce a beneficial product, that the governments have to justify it. This means that they have to implement restrictions and demands that reduce the building of immunity, and extend the recovery period for those who have problems as a result of infection. If they can ramp up these results then maybe they will try to mandate vaccination to move more of the public's money into the coffers of the Pharma companies.

[franky1]

money for vaccine research is only the same amount of money for a 2 week circuitbreak lockdown for only birmingham UK.

the funny thing is the oxford vaccine is actually making money from america. yep UK benefiting from vaccine research.

oops. wait.. now i get it.. your in the UK but your one of them weird people that think your deep down american and you are pretending that american things affect you.
now its starting to explain things where you keep thinking that big pharma profits on people. you keep forgetting how the UK health system works

maybe oneday you will take your MAGA hat off and remember that your british. but that day is only a possibility when you stop reading american conspiracy sites

more money is wasted trying to commercialise battered marsbars in retail shops and guess what. they didnt last long.
so if you wanna cry about wasting money for corporate products. i can name many

[paxmao]

The best thing about negationists is that they will eventually exclude themselves from humanity´s gene pool.

But they are the ones that aren't becoming ill, and if they aren't ill, they can't spread the Kung 'flu virus, so their friends and progeny are not going to be sick. ...

You cannot "convince" a virus that it does not exist. As of now, 4 members of my direct family have had the virus. I tried to convince them that it was not possible, but they were somehow not into it.

[franky1]

i know 2 people that had it..
but even if i said 'your free of the virus because jetcash' they still would have got sick

while jetcash has been crying for a while now about how much money.. he has shown 100% lack of actually researching the cost.

UK can vaccinate 35million people with all the R&D costs for under £50m
lets call it £1.20 per vaccination cost to taxpayer worse case

well he probably fills up his camper van with petrol at say £20 a week
of which £4 is VAT
of which £8 is fuel duty

so that £12 tax from just one week of car fuel can cover all the costs of 10 people a week
if he has just one coffee a day for 7 days. thats £7. 5% vat. thats 35p
thats just about another person a month

41people get a vaccine just from his coffee trips a month.
246people for the 6 months he has been visiting morrisons to get on wifi and cludge this forum
and it hasnt cost him a single penny more then he would usually spend

..
the rest of his spending (income tax/national insurance, VAT on bills, Vat on groceries and other stuff) can pay for other things.

but i hope he realises that the small spend of just a coffee a day plus the fuel to get him there. well thats helping 246 people for just the last 6 months of his ranty chants on this forum
246.. yes jetcash 246 people will get to have a vaccination just from your coffee/wifi habit