Having secondary/multiple accounts purpose is..?

[~KiD~]

Hi everyone!
Like is stated on the title.. I have a few questions about the benefit/allowance of having multi-accounts on the forum, since I saw this is allowed.
What is the purpose of having multiple accounts (alt/alts) on this forum?
And why is this allowed in the first place? I find it kind of weird.. at least.

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[IIV]

Bitcoin and this forum are made with keeping privacy in anonymity in mind. Though the site keeps a log of your IP and can be forced to reveal it when legally asked to, it maintains the privacy in every other circumstances. That's why it doesn't stop multiple accounts as stopping that would risk the privacy.

The reasons why people create multiple ids could range from bounty hunting to having a different approach of thought. Every IDs have their personality and many people loves to have every side of their mind online. Sometimes the multiple IDs could be a work ID and a private ID.

[CryptoMahfuz03]

There are many reasons people are using multiple accounts.

1. Users suspended because of violating Forum rules. As a result people are creating multiple accounts and run their campaign.
2. People are scared by the strict forum rules and feel vulnerable.
3. It is quite risky to post on site like gambling, giveaway, lottery, micro-earning, ICO and airdrop promotion and other likely scam.

It don't find reason to use multiple account. Posting same message on different sites looks spammy.

Participating same project with multiple times using multiple accounts can be seen as an offense. Do your own judgement by having secondary accounts. There are sophisticated technology already available to find cheaters like ip address checking etc.

Only way to earn more by having more followers not more accounts.

[DdmrDdmr]

When I signed in I though it was weird as hell too, and even pondered why KYC was not enforced to delimit the creation of Alt accounts (newbies …).

I have another account that I use to scrape data from the forum. I do not want to use my main account for that, lest it be banned for scraping at some point, thus the Alt account. Generally speaking, people use Alt accounts to:

-   Participate in multiple campaigns on the forum. This is allowed, providing you are ethical (i.e. the accounts don’t participate in the same campaing simultaneously, thet don’t merit each other, they don’t create fake conversations amongst themselves, etc.).

-   Distinguish when they are using the main account from another one from which they participate in a less demanding manner (i.e. using a phone with fat fingers will normally lead to shorter elaborated posts, and that may differ from the style one wants on his main account).

-   Participate in a conversation without unveiling their main account, for fear of retaliation against their main account.

-   Try to bypass bans (which they are not allowed to, except for appealing on Meta).

-   Etc.

Now obviously people do create multiple accounts for the wrong reasons: trying to scam, bumping services (not really worth it now on the boards where it makes sense), creating a farm of accounts that merit each other and/or participate in the same campaign simultaneously, creating account to try to sell them off later on, etc.

[hd49728]

It is what I found with forum search. Keywords used are: alt accounts + theymos

I don't have a problem with alt accounts as long as they're not used to evade bans. Atlas is not banned.

I don't have a problem with alt accounts as long as they're not used for evading bans. If you're hesitant to say something controversial because you don't want it to be associated with your name, please create an alt account and say it.

Alt accounts are useful in some cases, and they can't be effectively banned anyway. People can always use Tor to evade detection. So banning alt accounts outright would hurt good people more than bad people.

If I happen to see someone abusing alt accounts to break forum rules or scam, I will do something about it.

Wait me for while.

[Bttzed03]

Some create alt accounts and use it to indicate whether they are in front of their computer, on mobile, or somewhere.

Examples:
Main account: theymos (Alt account: theymos_away)
Main account: LoyceV (Alt account: LoyceMobile)

[bullrun2024bro]

-   Participate in multiple campaigns on the forum. This is allowed, providing you are ethical (i.e. the accounts don’t participate in the same campaing simultaneously, thet don’t merit each other, they don’t create fake conversations amongst themselves, etc.).

-   Distinguish when they are using the main account from another one from which they participate in a less demanding manner (i.e. using a phone with fat fingers will normally lead to shorter elaborated posts, and that may differ from the style one wants on his main account).

-   Participate in a conversation without unveiling their main account, for fear of retaliation against their main account.

-   Try to bypass bans (which they are not allowed to, except for appealing on Meta).

Now obviously people do create multiple accounts for the wrong reasons: trying to scam, bumping services (not really worth it now on the boards where it makes sense), creating a farm of accounts that merit each other and/or participate in the same campaign simultaneously, creating account to try to sell them off later on, etc.

I think another important reason for an alt account is, that not everyone has a secure internet connection everywhere they go. Using an alt account can mainly have security purposes. Would you like to login with your 5 year-old legendary main account from a public wifi via a mobile phone? Sure not. Using a lower ranked alt account, could be a good alternative.

Nevertheless you are right, most spammers/scammers use alt accounts to bypass bans and to enroll in most bounty campaigns as possible.

[Kuffy]

I'm a prime culprit in this. My main account is Jet Cash, and there ase historic reasons for me starting with this, and I use this for crypto projects. I'm also active in a few other forums, and I use Kuffy on most of those. I reg'd it as an alt here to protect the identity. Talk Merit was used to support the Fit to Talk English project. Flash Cunt was used to play with TMAN, but I don't really use that much now. Baronets is my domain name holding company, and I'll probably use that to sell some crypto domain names here.

Most of the alts are of member rank or better, and Kuffy just needs a bit of activity to join that list. I like to get the accounts up to at least member rank so that I can use the signatures for various personal projects. I have never joined any signature campaigns.

[khaled0111]

The problem here is that most users are abusing this privilege that you can't find on other forums.
This forum allows the use of alts mainly for the sake of privacy. Whereas the majority of alt accounts are used to cheat bounty campaigns, scam/spam, ban evading... which is a real shame.

[Kuffy]

Quite a few other forums allow multiple accounts, but they often require the declaration of the association. I believe that this should be a rule here as well. There are several members who have one account fr use with a mobile, or when travelling, and another for use with a desktop. Another handy use relates to ignore lists. Jet Cash has got quite a few members on ignore, it is useful to have a different account to review the current posting behaviour to see if they should be removed from the ignore list.

[hilariousetc]

The main reason is freedom. Freedom is good, right? Maybe you want an account to do business with here but you also want another where you can post your own personal opinions on or discus politics without it possibly effecting your sales or business. The other reason is disallowing it is hard to police and enforce effectively. Basically anyone can evade a ban just by using a proxy unless you use other measures like browsers fingerprinting which this forum doesn't and probably never will, so accounts are allowed as long as you don't break the forum rules with them or use them to evade a ban.

Quite a few other forums allow multiple accounts, but they often require the declaration of the association. I believe that this should be a rule here as well. There are several members who have one account fr use with a mobile, or when travelling, and another for use with a desktop. Another handy use relates to ignore lists. Jet Cash has got quite a few members on ignore, it is useful to have a different account to review the current posting behaviour to see if they should be removed from the ignore list.

I don't think this should be required. Many people do self-out their alts but at the same time people should be free to have private ones for whatever reason, just as long as they're not used for abuse.

[Lucius]

I can agree with a good part of what is stated in previous posts, and it definitely makes sense to me that for some situations an alt account is quite appropriate. I'm not personally logging into this forum on my smartphone, but if I were to do that, I'd definitely make an alt account for security reasons.

I understand some other reasons for alt accounts, but I personally do not support using alt accounts and participating in signature campaigns (regardless of the fact that this is not the same campaign), because if one user takes say 3 places in 3 different sig campaigns, is it fair to someone else? From an ethical and moral standpoint it is definitely not, but the world is a cruel place, and the forum is no exception.

[Saint-loup]

Some create alt accounts and use it to indicate whether they are in front of their computer, on mobile, or somewhere.

Examples:
Main account: theymos (Alt account: theymos_away)
Main account: LoyceV (Alt account: LoyceMobile)

Are you sure it's not because they are affraid to send their password through an insecure network instead?
I thought it was for this reason. If they only want to show they're currently not in front of their computer they could indicate it in their signature or Personal Text.

[Bttzed03]

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Are you sure it's not because they are affraid to send their password through an insecure network instead?
I thought it was for this reason. If they only want to show they're currently not in front of their computer they could indicate it in their signature or Personal Text.

No, I'm not really sure of the reason (I should have added "probably" there). What you said makes more sense given that they are security freaks (I believe) or we could be both wrong. Anyway, I'm just adding another reason why some users have alt accounts.

[LoyceV]

Main account: theymos (Alt account: theymos_away)
Main account: LoyceV (Alt account: LoyceMobile)

Are you sure it's not because they are affraid to send their password through an insecure network instead?

Correct. My phone is less secure than my PC. My LoyceBot is even worse: I've used it on more than one VPS.

[taufik123]

-snip-  but I personally do not support using alt accounts and participating in signature campaigns (regardless of the fact that this is not the same campaign), because if one user takes say 3 places in 3 different sig campaigns, is it fair to someone else? From an ethical and moral standpoint it is definitely not, but the world is a cruel place, and the forum is no exception.

Alt accounts are not a problem in this forum for various reasons. But if the alt account is used to follow the signature campaign as you mean, I also disagree.
Because when a Jubilee signature campaign many alt accounts are used by others, even though the campaigns that are followed are different, one person participates in various campaigns and manages several accounts at the same time. looks unfair and tries to get as much money as possible using multiple accounts.

[hd49728]

Main account: theymos (Alt account: theymos_away)
Main account: LoyceV (Alt account: LoyceMobile)

Are you sure it's not because they are affraid to send their password through an insecure network instead?

Correct. My phone is less secure than my PC. My LoyceBot is even worse: I've used it on more than one VPS.

Moreover, we have another reason: We can not see trust and feedback and Flag (?) if we don't log in forum account. If we want to investigate trustworthy of one account, we have to log in our account but due to security and privacy protection, we don't want to log in main account on mobile. It is very useful if one user spend most of time in Scam accusation child board.

In addition, it is difficult to stay away from the forum if we are addicted to it, even when we are on bed. Alt for mobile is good.

This is another reason some reputable users have their alts for usages on mobile only.

[hilariousetc]

Some create alt accounts and use it to indicate whether they are in front of their computer, on mobile, or somewhere.

Examples:
Main account: theymos (Alt account: theymos_away)
Main account: LoyceV (Alt account: LoyceMobile)

Lol. Those accounts as with this one are the ones we use when we're on the toilet. In all seriousness, people have accounts like those when they're using unsecure wifi and connections that can't be trusted 100%. Would be pretty worrisome if theymos logged onto the ublic wifi at Starbucks and got his account compromised  .

Moreover, we have another reason: We can not see trust and feedback and Flag (?) if we don't log in forum account. If we want to investigate trustworthy of one account, we have to log in our account but due to security and privacy protection,

That's partially why I have my other hilarious* account. I don't really use it but I have it logged into another computer I use and sometimes I might PM info from one account to the other if I need it for whatever reason.

 

[Kuffy]

Heaven knows what TMAN's toilet account would be.

[NavI_027]

What is the purpose of having multiple accounts (alt/alts) on this forum?
And why is this allowed in the first place? I find it kind of weird.. at least.

Yeah it's weird but it becomes normal when the money talks already kick in lol . Like on one point of DdmrDdmr, alt accounts particularly Full Members and up are used for maximizing their earnings here in the forum. I knew some people who are like this but in all fairness I can feel they're not just only doing it for the sake of money. They still do their best on making valuable posts and healthy conversations here. In short, they are not acting bots despite of having multiple accounts. Well some might say that it sounds greedy, yes it does lol but still the decency was there .

But for me, 1 account is already enough because it's very challenging to have an alter ego.