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February 25, 2020, 01:51:57 PM
Last edit: February 25, 2020, 02:16:07 PM by pilosopotasyo
Merited by Royse777 (2), Saisher (1), 1miau (1), badykvik (1)
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This forum is RACIST staring today they not paying posters coming from
Nigeria, Pakistan, India or Indonesia Egypt and Venezuela, they should have treated every poster individually and not based on their nationality
I'm not from any of those countries but I feel this is a Racist move and should not be taken lightly

I have a member account here  but definitely not going to go back on this forum because of this issue

I hate RACIST

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Correction the ID could be Indonesia or India I have to clarify that I just got it from one posts coming from one member

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February 25, 2020, 01:57:48 PM
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India or Indonesia?

It's not racist, it's just lazy. Instead of moderating the forum they took the easy route and decided to ban certain countries. Spammers will use VPNs and will continue to spam.

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February 25, 2020, 01:59:52 PM
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Nigeria, Pakistan, India Egypt and Venezuela, they should have treated every poster individually and not based on their nationality
This is truly unacceptable and not a good move for a forum who are giving an impression that they are here to promote crypto project. This move means their admin team is really poor to manage the forum.

Controlling spam is a challenge for any community but instead of doing their job they are just denying users from some territory! There are a lot of users from these countries who have good knowledge about crypto and has contributed a lot to the crypto community. You can not call them spammers just because there are spammers in those country. Spammers are everywhere.  

India or Indonesia?
This must be Indonesia. India would be IND.

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February 25, 2020, 02:10:37 PM
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India or Indonesia?

That's Indonesia exactly. IN is for India.

@OP, it's not about racism but they stopped users from these countries possibly based on the stats they've got on their dashboard which would have shown that most of the comments are coming from those countries as well as a lot of them (after being moderated) are considered to be low-quality or spam as shown in their message. They belong to Russia, at least you should thank that they have allowed other countries too instead of keeping it limited to RU only. But yeah, to what I've seen and known about Yobit and cryptotalk, I think they'll definitely allow these countries some time later (maybe) or the best option was already told by suchmoon - VPNs.

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February 25, 2020, 02:11:46 PM
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I think the problem is that people expect too much from Yobit. It has been an exchange that didn't ever care about any of their users, nor their reputation that went south as result of their shady actions. I can see why people get upset about this since it's very easy money they are missing out on now, but there isn't much that you can do but to move on.

It's safe to say that their campaign will either be paying like 10-100 satoshis per post, or stop entirely. Even Yobit will come to the conclusion that their forum doesn't stand a chance against any other crypto forum.
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February 25, 2020, 02:21:14 PM
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They mentioned 95% what about those 5% that will suffer from their action, they should have treated it in a case to case basis, they just want to cut their payout, because they cannot keep up anymore with the growing number of new member, I will not be surprised if they lower the rate to 500 satoshis or they will only credit 10 to 20 posts, this is going to be a dying forum.

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February 25, 2020, 02:22:12 PM
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India or Indonesia?

It's not racist, it's just lazy. Instead of moderating the forum they took the easy route and decided to ban certain countries. Spammers will use VPNs and will continue to spam.

That's what I thought too. They didn't solve any issue at all but they instead encourage more spamming from all over the world because of VPN. Yobit signature is done and from the looks of it, I don't think it will last. Once they stop incentivising posters, spams will die down eventually. It sucks that they won't get their payment though.

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February 25, 2020, 02:33:49 PM
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This forum is RACIST staring today they not paying posters coming from
Nigeria, Pakistan, India or Indonesia Egypt and Venezuela, they should have treated every poster individually and not based on their nationality
I'm not from any of those countries but I feel this is a Racist move and should not be taken lightly

I have a member account here  but definitely not going to go back on this forum because of this issue

I hate RACIST


Correction the ID could be Indonesia or India I have to clarify that I just got it from one posts coming from one member

How will they make sure that the posts from these regions are not being paid ? If they only check the IP then they can be deceived by the VPNs. For sure, the spammers are wise enough to use the VPN and keep doing what they are doing  or they will start KYC on their forums. This method (KYC) can be more appropriate if they want to stop some specific countries people to get paid.

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February 25, 2020, 03:09:50 PM
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This forum is RACIST staring today they not paying posters coming from
Nigeria, Pakistan, India or Indonesia Egypt and Venezuela, they should have treated every poster individually and not based on their nationality
I'm not from any of those countries but I feel this is a Racist move and should not be taken lightly

I have a member account here  but definitely not going to go back on this forum because of this issue

I hate RACIST


Correction the ID could be Indonesia or India I have to clarify that I just got it from one posts coming from one member

Cryptotalk is always been a controversial forums and they keep on doing the cheap things which they think will improve the post quality but steps like these won't help. And mind it not all the the posters from these countries produces spam.  
All the mods on that forum are from the Russians and in future they may admit only Russians to post.  Cheesy

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February 25, 2020, 03:19:10 PM
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This forum is RACIST staring today they not paying posters coming from
Nigeria, Pakistan, India or Indonesia Egypt and Venezuela, they should have treated every poster individually and not based on their nationality
I'm not from any of those countries but I feel this is a Racist move and should not be taken lightly

I have a member account here  but definitely not going to go back on this forum because of this issue

I hate RACIST


Correction the ID could be Indonesia or India I have to clarify that I just got it from one posts coming from one member

Cryptotalk is always been a controversial forums and they keep on doing the cheap things which they think will improve the post quality but steps like these won't help. And mind it not all the the posters from these countries produces spam.  
All the mods on that forum are from the Russians and in future they may admit only Russians to post.  Cheesy

Well isnt cryptotalk just yobit and their foray into forum waters.
Yobit is known to be owned and operated by russians.
Just look at the picture used as their avatar.
It is a photo of stalin which was a tyrant so what were you expecting from them really? Embarrassed

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February 25, 2020, 03:51:55 PM
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It's silly to say that this is racist  Roll Eyes They stated a very clear reason, they stopped paying because of the everlasting spammer  Smiley What do you think this is racist? They did not mention the issue of race here, the people who post in those languages are pathogens. If I'm not mistaken, there is a language (here) that is also locked in this forum, the cause is by the spammers (they abuse it for continuity posting). The same goes for Cryptotalk, they reserves the right to cancel payment instead of moderating with spammers

It's not racist, it's just lazy. Instead of moderating the forum they took the easy route and decided to ban certain countries. Spammers will use VPNs and will continue to spam.
The notice says no payment, it does not mean they ban these languages  Wink

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February 25, 2020, 04:08:26 PM
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This forum is RACIST staring today they not paying posters coming from
Nigeria, Pakistan, India or Indonesia Egypt and Venezuela, they should have treated every poster individually and not based on their nationality
I'm not from any of those countries but I feel this is a Racist move and should not be taken lightly

I have a member account here  but definitely not going to go back on this forum because of this issue

I hate RACIST


Correction the ID could be Indonesia or India I have to clarify that I just got it from one posts coming from one member

Cryptotalk is always been a controversial forums and they keep on doing the cheap things which they think will improve the post quality but steps like these won't help. And mind it not all the the posters from these countries produces spam.  
All the mods on that forum are from the Russians and in future they may admit only Russians to post.  Cheesy


This goes down to moderators not doing their job properly if they are doing it, they will send a warning to spammers not to spam but they are not banning people, they are only banning multiple accounts, spamming has no nationality it goes on individual character, they should just stop this pay per posts and just make themselves an ordinary forum, and add more category and local boards.

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after reading your post and looking at the cryptotalk forum, I realize that they may have their reasons in this case. look at the people who create topics, post a lot to the point of doing 30 posts a day and also see who are the people who have a lot of likes and high reputation who will realize that there are a lot of people with multiple accounts and who don't know what they are talking about when do some post


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February 25, 2020, 04:23:39 PM
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Looks like they generalize it all. If the rules are just going to be applied like banning the low quality posters after a warning they may not have to ban a whole posters from a country. There are certainly great users from different countries, I have to say my friends from India and Pakistan contributes a lot to develop websites content. Its their forum though, but probably some suggestions should be considered by the admin of cryptotalk.

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February 25, 2020, 04:54:08 PM
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I'm not from any of those countries but I feel this is a Racist move and should not be taken lightly
What did people expect from a forum ran by YoBit? YoBit is a scam. They are quite happy to steal bitcoin from anybody who they can lure to their scam exchange with Ponzi schemes and made up tokens which don't exist. Why is anybody at all surprised that a company which shows absolutely zero decency is willing to ban entire countries? They don't care about their users, only about fleecing them for their bitcoin.

This is truly unacceptable and not a good move for a forum who are giving an impression that they are here to promote crypto project. This move means their admin team is really poor to manage the forum.
The only thing they are here to promote is themselves. Given that everything they do is about maximizing their own profits at the direct expense of their users, it is no surprise that instead of paying for moderators to actually deal with the problem, they just take it out on the users instead.

Why is anybody still using YoBit?

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after reading your post and looking at the cryptotalk forum, I realize that they may have their reasons in this case. look at the people who create topics, post a lot to the point of doing 30 posts a day and also see who are the people who have a lot of likes and high reputation who will realize that there are a lot of people with multiple accounts and who don't know what they are talking about when do some post

They are the reason themselves to attract spammers to their ground if you're considering this 30 posts thing, because they are allowing their users themselves to make that amount of posts and also get paid for it (even though a buck, $1 is still something in developing countries which is why people will do anything - from making alt accounts to making unnecessary content and posting there and now they are complaining about spam - they were the ones who tried their best to convert this forum into a spam garden until a manager was assigned to manage the users.

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February 25, 2020, 05:26:00 PM
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after reading your post and looking at the cryptotalk forum, I realize that they may have their reasons in this case. look at the people who create topics, post a lot to the point of doing 30 posts a day and also see who are the people who have a lot of likes and high reputation who will realize that there are a lot of people with multiple accounts and who don't know what they are talking about when do some post

They are the reason themselves to attract spammers to their ground if you're considering this 30 posts thing, because they are allowing their users themselves to make that amount of posts and also get paid for it (even though a buck, $1 is still something in developing countries which is why people will do anything - from making alt accounts to making unnecessary content and posting there and now they are complaining about spam - they were the ones who tried their best to convert this forum into a spam garden until a manager was assigned to manage the users.

Spam is not the fault of yobit, it is the fault of people who abuse the opportunity that yobit is giving them. from what I searched, in cryptotalk it is allowed to do a maximum of 30 post per day, this does not mean that people must do 30 post per day.... But unfortunately many people are creating alt accounts and make 30 post per day. yobit would have to do something to end these abuses


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February 25, 2020, 05:32:26 PM
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They invited a bunch of locusts to come and stay and now the locusts have stripped the joint bare they seem surprised that they're no longer welcome.

I'm sure there are plenty of decent posters from those locations. I'm also sure there are many more shit ones.

They're not giving them the boot for fun. They weighed up the stats and acted accordingly. 
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Spam is not the fault of yobit, it is the fault of people who abuse the opportunity that yobit is giving them. from what I searched, in cryptotalk it is allowed to do a maximum of 30 post per day, this does not mean that people must do 30 post per day.... But unfortunately many people are creating alt accounts and make 30 post per day. yobit would have to do something to end these abuses

Sure it isn't their fault, but they've done least efforts to figure and fight it out, the first was the trailer that was seen on this forum when they allowed 20 posts a day to the users without anyone moderating them (2 times in a row if I'm not wrong when they did it without any manager and still paid their users for posting shit) and third time, when they were highly pressurized by Yahoo here to put it down to (first) 10 and then 5 posts max per day to be counted, they decided to stop the campaign here and shift everything at cryptotalk. Don't get me wrong, but what's the need of allowing 30 paid posts daily when they know they'll definitely fail in preventing spam? Why can't they lower the paid posts to 5 or 10 itself? That'll definitely let those users not post above 10 posts because they (spammers specifically) solely post for pennies and nothing all they want, they don't give a fuck to the forum's reputation nor theirs, they just need money and that's it. Why are cryptotalk people allowing this number at the very first point? Think.

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February 25, 2020, 06:39:09 PM
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I think the problem is that people expect too much from Yobit. It has been an exchange that didn't ever care about any of their users, nor their reputation that went south as result of their shady actions. I can see why people get upset about this since it's very easy money they are missing out on now, but there isn't much that you can do but to move on.

It's safe to say that their campaign will either be paying like 10-100 satoshis per post, or stop entirely. Even Yobit will come to the conclusion that their forum doesn't stand a chance against any other crypto forum.
Theyre trying to build up a forum which would really be similar to this place but i would say that it wont really be that easy no matter how generous they are when paying up people just to lurk in into their forum.

I heavily agree into that point above that this action would be either totally a RACIST move or just simply a LAZY one yet they do want to get rid of spammers out of all of those places.
This act does really shows how centralized this place is which is totally contradictory if we do talk about the true essence of crypto.

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