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February 29, 2020, 06:22:59 PM
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What happened::
Please everyone should be warned here. Malubit.com is stealing money! I was also stupid one, who deposit and play there. After few deposits and losing run, I have won one bet and my balance become 1337.5 mBTC. After that I have placed a bet for 250 mBTC, which lost and I have requested withdrawal for 700 mBTC immediately. In my balance left 387.5 mBTC. My withdrawal was not processed for 2 days and after that I told Malubit.com support team named "Clint", that I will not bet until my withdrawal is processed.
Guess what is going to happens after that?
They have cancelled my withdrawal of 700 mBTC, but in History of Withdrawals change it that it was cancelled in same day, when I have requested it.
They placed a bet for whole balance of 1087.5 mBTC with odds 9.5 (Aqua Santa)!!! from Brazilian Paulista between Guarani vs. Aqua Santa.
Of course this bet lost and they credited even 23.05 mBTC bonus for the losing bet in my balance!!!

Please stay away from Malubit.com and not repeat my bad experience!!!

p.s. I have screenshots, which prove, that they manipulated Transaction history.

Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2751086

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Amount Scammed: 1.087 BTC/$9385.64
Payment Method: Bitcoins
Proof of Payment:
http://blockchain.info/tx/b80f35cebae98fcbd8eb0e2eaea6def41f90ad01086ad830ba23094ac3c3b165
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/37GAoNn3zX4zvdJ2HE5ChbrRy3JFW1kpX8
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3LckTYqaEcStvcuaxpLhg9KtYX4MzdPtWz
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3HDWkMqhVqcsgPC3zqkSC9aosPsXvLpmz8
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3265tXikxQojx3pPHRGqWQWZS3F3ZnhCXG
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/33Q947t56ZxisZaCyn81tEQrKwSXNzFew1
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3QBrRAoxtQHDKvHAcT9XqSZ3qLzqTbeDdj
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3CmPDYShh2pxHBt5vrdLAoApgeYsjbi2bt


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Additional Notes: I advise you to not deal with this user until this dispute is resolved.
I have initially start conversation also in Malubit.com thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224028.340
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March 01, 2020, 11:06:50 AM
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Nothing was manipulated. We already explained that we can not access users accounts with passwords, and also impossible to reset passwords. Users are responsible for their own actions and own passwords.
If a user resets his password, then he will receive an email to the related email address. We from Malubit have no way to watch this procedure or email.
What really happened, is that the user barbaron was not patient enough until we processed his withdrawal, then cancelled this withdrawal by himself (as you can see in his screenshots)and started to gamble again.

You are talking about manipulation, but we already explained to you in the other thread that nothing was manipulated:

Quote from: barbaron on February 29, 2020, 03:14:32 PM

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One more proof of their manipulation:

This is my communication with Malubit by email.
You can see I have ask them on 28.02.2020 15:30 CET what is going with my withdrawal of 700 mBTC and they answer me on 28.02.2020 17:53 CET, that I should be more patient as this is my first withdrawal.

So, how I can cancel my withdrawal on 27.02.2020 00:10 CET?

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There is an easy explanation for this situation.
You made the withdrawal request  27.02.2020 00:10 CET
On the moment you cancel the withdrawal, then the date/time will be displayed from the original withdrawal request, so in your situation this is  27.02.2020 00:10 CET.
So that means you have made the withdrawal  27.02.2020 00:10 CET and that this withdrawal was cancelled, it does not matter if you cancel it 1 day later, 2 week ater or 6 months later. The system will always show the date from the initial withdrawal request 30.05.2020 00:10 CET, then it will always show the date from the withdrawal:  27.02.2020 00:10 CET
You have cancelled it by yourself. And we understand why you are so angry, because you wrote that you borrowed the money and probably can not return it.
Never borrow money to gamble money, as this can effect in debts.

It has nothing to do with the date/time you cancel it, this is just showing up automatically.


The user was not able to think clear anymore, and tried to keep going and going with false accusations.

The conversation continued:

Barbaron wrote:

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OMG!

Can You shut up and disappear in the darkest black hole in the Galaxy, please!
It is unbelievable how can live persons in this world without a drop of conscience!
The biggest ever liar, who once lived! I swear!

https://imgur.com/McBuzVj
It is unbelievable, that even this scammer not checked when my initial withdrawal request is placed. It is not 27.02.2020 00:10,
It is 26.02.2020 22:10!

You think You will save Your miserable reputation with posts like this with miserable funny explanations!
SCAM - bigger than ever somebody can imagine!!!

And again we come with an easy and logical explanation for this:

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This difference in time is exactly 2 hours, which has to do with the different time zones that are used.
In our system we have a different time zone than the players on the site, which explains the time difference of exactly 2 hours. This has to do with our payment processor.
Bear responsibility for your own losses. Never borrow money from others to get out of your debts.
We have provided answers to all your questions regarding this situation. If we can still be of service to you, please contact our helpdesk. We have specialists in our company who can help you get rid of your gambling addiction and who can provide you with further information. Please stop finding excuses for your bets that were lost and take responsibility.

This matter regarding your gambling addiction is now closed on the forum.


After this, barbaron realises his last attempt was also a big fail so he decides to start an accusation thread as well.

As everybody can see, nothing strange happened. The only thing that really happened, is that this user has to deal with serious gambling probems, and decided to borrow money, trying to make a fortune.
Unfortunately, it went the other way and he lost the money. Now because he has to pay the money back from the ones he borrowed it, the problems start for him and now he is trying do everything to get hismoney back which will of course not happen since he placed his own bets.


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March 01, 2020, 11:53:10 AM
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How about manual odds manipulation , which is Malubit's bigger lure for their customers? If You can change manually the odds, You can change everything in customers accounts.

Biggest scam, which I have ever seen! Beware!
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March 01, 2020, 12:17:36 PM
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Dear barbaron, you invoke new "arguments" every time. You keep trying to project your frustration from your lost money. Wasn't your accusation that we had messed up your account? You tried it that way, and now you are trying to find new arguments each time. If you have an accusation with a bookmaker, it is logical/normal you come up with arguments. You only give false arguments, and when these are refuted by us, then you come up with new ones.
 Now you start talking about something else. Adjusting quotations is always possible, depending on the liquidity. You requested the change of odds, and have accepted these. It was in your favour, not the opposite. Stop with making yourself ridiculous.
That has nothing to do with your accusations. Nothing has been manipulated. I understand that you are full of frustration and anger because you have gambled a considerable amount, but do not respond to others and do not blame other people / companies for this. Bear your own responsibility.

You did not have patience for your payouts, you cancelled your payout when and it gambled. nobody told you to cancel your withdrawal, it was your own choice. Such situations arise a lot, the next time you request a payout, we recommend that you wait patiently, and do not hit on tilt to bet your assets. If you do deicide to cancel a withdrawal, and play with these funds, it can happen that you make wrong bets which will lose.

It is also advisable to only gamble with money that you can permit to lose.
So never borrow money from others to finance your gambling addiction.
We have answered all your questions, so we will no longer respond to these valase accusations in terms of content. Find help to work on your gambling addiction, we cannot give you any other advice.
It would also be nice if you stopped the threats via E-mail.

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March 01, 2020, 12:30:13 PM
Last edit: March 01, 2020, 01:01:27 PM by barbaron
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I have 15 Years of gambling experience and believe me - I know and I can control my betting activity. Everyone can see - from 9 bets placed at Malubit, I have 7 lost and two winning bets. And I have never say nothing about my loss.
I am not addicted, believe me - it is You who is pathetic liar - You should heal Yourself in psycho hospital!
The problem becomes, when I told You via email and via live chat, that I will not place new bets , until withdrawal of 700 mBTC is processed - do I am addicted if I refuse to bet until You pay me my winnings?
This was the key moment.
Then You cancel my withdrawal and place whole amount of 1087.5 mBTC at odds of 9.5 !!!
I have already explain, that again this is sign of manipulation!
You are so stupid!
Odds for underdog at 90 minute, when result is 0-0 will never be 9.5!  NEVER!
Every experienced gambler here can confirm my words!

Get off and shut up , please ! You are miserable pathetic liar!

BEWARE of MALUBIT SCAM!!!
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March 01, 2020, 03:24:28 PM
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@barbaron
I will just mark a quote from our "Experienced gambler" barbaron
This claims that odds are not possible from around 9.00 on the underdog when the score is a draw at the moment (0-0, 1-1, 2-2, 3,3 etc)we are sitting around the 90th minute of play. It is quite clear that he has absolutely no idea what he is talking about. Again proof that he does not know what he is doing.

"I have 15 Years of gambling experience"

and

"Odds for underdog at 90 minute, when result is 0-0 will never be 9.5!  NEVER!
Every experienced gambler here can confirm my words!"



Well, today I checked it and already refuted his statements again with the following images:



As you can see, we are around the 90th minute and odds from 10.00 for the underdog to win.

Next example for today's game:



In this example same situation, with exactly odds from 9.00 for the underdog to win.

Now of course he is going to reply that the score is not 0-0, that is true, but with the scoreline 0-0 or 1-1 the odds will be the same.
So please Barbaron, go ahead and write that the score is not 0-0, then we will wait until another game is 0-0 around 90th minute and the odds will be also around 9.00. Then we will provide you another screenshot.

But I think this does need no more explanations, and I suggest barbaron will apologise for his false accusations by trying to give us a bad image. Accept your losses, try to recover and take a break for a while before you bet again.

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March 01, 2020, 03:28:45 PM
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guys,

malu is #1 incompetent crooks and I saw many in crypto betting

their official thread is full of complaints and evidences how they cancel bets, decline withdrawals, seize money and close accounts

stay away from them
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March 01, 2020, 03:43:54 PM
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Radex, you want to make us believe you are not even a customer from Malubit. But every day keep posting negative things on Malubit, and keep hunting on Malubit every day. and that without even lost 1 usd.
It is a big miracle.
So maybe this time you can give an answer:

Why would you hunt on Malubit, and posting from day 1 that we are scammers, while you are not even a customer? And please do not tell again that you lost 5 btc from another bookmaker, because if you lost 5btc on bookmaker X then it does not make any sense to accuse malubit. Then you should accuse bookmaker X and pot in their thread.
Stop making yourself ridiculous with full of lies, please.
if you accuse somebody, then you would only do this because you have problems with him. Not because you read that somebody has problems with this bookmaker.
Your story is really full of nonsense.

By the way, we know that you have a double account in our system on Malubit, but since Malubit respects all the privacy from customers, we will not display any information/ IP addresses in here.

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March 01, 2020, 04:10:41 PM
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Just now was played English Premier League Everton v Man Utd:
Screenshot from Your own scam Malubit.com:
https://imgur.com/a/5fTV43n

Did You see odds?
29.00!!!!

Let's return to the odds. Everyone can read our communication. I bet only prematch on MAJOR leagues. I am from Europe and I love European Football and I know only European Football.
And only when this scammer offer to me huge VALUE in odds. With wise stakes 50-250 mBTC.
There is, when wise bettors bet on!
Why the hell I would bet live, without any improvement in odds offered whole my balance 1087.5 mBTC and on BRAZIL Campeonato Paulista?Huh?

This scammer offer me huge improvement in odds and only then I compare with odds comparison sites and if there is huge value  I bet on this event!
odds 9.5 is absolute garbage at injury time.

SCAMMER! STAY AWAY!
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March 01, 2020, 04:28:16 PM
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Not every match has the same odds. You as an "experienced gambler" should know that. If there is still officially 20 seconds to play, then the odds for teams will often be high. If there is an injury time of 4 minutes, then it is perfectly true that the odds are 29.00 as it is only half a minute to play.
In your example, which you have bet on and in the screenshots, the injury time is probably longer or the chance is higher that an additional goal is scored. As a result, the odds do not rise quickly. That differs per competition and team.
But if you really had been gambling for 15 years, then you should know for sure. The fact that you are now sending another screenshot and starting with the odds of 29.00 clearly indicates that you do not know how the market works.

For example, if the injury time in the example in your example (Everton - Man united) were 7 minutes, then the odds would certainly not be 29.00 but then it would probably be around 10.00.
And again that depends on which competition, odds in live events are determined by all sorts of factors. The country, the team, the game image and all sorts of other statistics and side issues.

I also advise you to view the screenshots that I have posted, in which you can clearly see that the odds can easily be around 9.00.

Next time pay attention and think better, before you post something and someone is accused of something. Because of your false accusations, Malubit is now suffering damage to its image.
The only advantage for Malubit is that you have tried to put forward such nuanced, poorly substantiated arguments that we could very easily refute. The good thing is that users here on the forum could see that you have absolutely no idea how the odds are working, and you just shout some things desperately to save your self.
So please read some information about odds, and then get back when you understand how these works.

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March 01, 2020, 04:34:06 PM
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Your garbage site have garbage odds!
Only manually You can manipulate the odds and only prematch!
I never bet live!
If I want to bet someday live - I will use Betting Exchanges, because they offer real value /probability/!

Did You offer me increasing of odds on this garbage match from BRAZIL Campeonato Paulista?

NO!

Shut up and stop scamming people!
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March 01, 2020, 04:49:00 PM
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Your garbage site have garbage odds!
Only manually You can manipulate the odds and only prematch!




And again you are wrong.

I have compared our odds from live betting with another bookmaker (I have not mentioned the name here) and ou will see the odds will be in the same scope.
So we have garbage odds?As you can see, again a false accusation.
What is the next step? That I have manipulated the screenshots? So now you are indicating all bookmakers have garbage odds? I can compare odds of 100 bookmakers, they all will have the same odds in the same scope in Live betting.



odds comparison (it is possible that odds are not always exactly the same, but it is about the scope)
So in your 15 years of experience, you never noticed this?



Case closed Smiley

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March 01, 2020, 04:51:54 PM
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https://imgur.com/a/516z7Vt

Did You see the odds from MAJOR European La Liga? Not from Your stupid examples: Spain Primera Nacional Women or Serbia League Women. Even in Flashscore there is no info about these examples. Who the hell will bet on them?

Idiot!

23.00?

From Your own garbage site. Not from Betting Exchanges, where is the real live value in odds!

Shut up and stop scamming people!
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March 01, 2020, 04:52:41 PM
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malu,

playing with fire too much

I explained my case several times and I will repeat it here
I dont have a single account on your shitty book

same thing I experienced with wbet7, they made several bets on south america football with  odds around 9 from my account
so I recognize pattern here

stay away from malubit
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March 01, 2020, 05:04:10 PM
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barbaron please stop and go read the rules if necessary, you know what it means if injury time is added, I don't think so. I have had a competition with 10 minutes of injury time, then the odds are different to bet on than there is only 2 minutes of injury time. and radex also stop pathetic under someone else's account posting malubit says they already know you have a double account go nice bother someone else I get a headache from this kind of posts lol

radex you tell you are not a customer from malubit,
 
malu,

playing with fire too much

I explained my case several times and I will repeat it here
I dont have a single account on your shitty book

same thing I experienced with wbet7, they made several bets on south america football with  odds around 9 from my account
so I recognize pattern here

stay away from malubit


That is funny to read, as you already accused malubit from day 1 on the forum without begin a customer

Nobody will buy your trashtalk that you are scammed by another bookmaker and now accusing malu if you are not a customer.
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March 01, 2020, 05:11:14 PM
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I will repeat again:

Let's return to the odds. Everyone can read our communication. I bet only prematch on MAJOR leagues. I am from Europe and I love European Football and I know only European Football.
And only when this scammer offer to me huge VALUE in odds. With wise stakes 50-250 mBTC.
There is, when wise bettors bet on!
Why the hell I would bet live, without any improvement in odds offered whole my balance 1087.5 mBTC and on BRAZIL Campeonato Paulista?Huh?

This scammer offer me huge improvement in odds and only then I compare with odds comparison sites and if there is huge value  I bet on this event!
odds 9.5 is absolute garbage at injury time.

SCAMMER! STAY AWAY!

Also all my bets was placed on Football Matches from MAJOR European Leagues! Prematch!
I will not stay until 01:58 AM to place my whole balance without any wise reason on garbage odds and garbage match BRAZIL Campeonato Paulista LIVE!!!

SCAMMER! STAY AWAY!
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March 01, 2020, 05:24:04 PM
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@barbaron
You want to return to the odds, wel let's do it 1 more time special for you.
barbaron, you have 15 years of experience?
Then you should also know that it is common in such countries that a match does not always start on time. It can easily happen that a game scheduled at 4:00 PM only starts at 4:05 PM
If we then go to 5.45 pm (normally the 90th minute) then in this case it is not the 90th minute but the 85th minute. And that is exactly what happened with your bet. I expekt it was placed somehwere in the 85th minute. The game started a few minutes later (but the game may also have been stopped for a few minutes), so your 90-minute + 15-minute break calculation  is no longer correct.

A simple example:

Competition starts at 4 pm and there is no injury time in the first half, and there is a normal break. after 2x45 minutes + 15 minutes we are then at 5.45 pm and we are exactly in the 90th minute.

But what happens if the game starts 5 minutes later or if the game is stopped 5 minutes in the first half? In both cases it takes 5 minutes longer before we start the 2nd half. The 2nd half normally starts at 5 p.m. but in this case at 5.05 p.m.

So if we approach the time of 5.45 pm, then in example 1 90 minutes would have been played, but in example 2 we are only 40 minutes in play in 2nd half so we are in playing minute 85. That explains the odds of 9. At the moment the 90th minute in the game, the odds for the winner will increase and would probably hit like 13-14, depending on the competition and team. after this, the minutes that are added as inury time, can have a big influence.

I think you are already aware of this, but trying to do anything to justify your lost bets.
But you know that all too well, because you have bet yourself in this competition.

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Last edit: March 01, 2020, 06:00:35 PM by barbaron
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You talk only for YOUR bet with my money!

You want to return to the odds, wel let's do it 1 more time special for you.
barbaron, you have 15 years of experience?
Then you should also know that it is common in such countries that a match does not always start on time. It can easily happen that a game scheduled at 4:00 PM only starts at 4:05 PM
If we then go to 5.45 pm (normally the 90th minute) then in this case it is not the 90th minute but the 85th minute. And that is exactly what happened with your bet. I expekt it was placed somehwere in the 85th minute. The game started a few minutes later (but the game may also have been stopped for a few minutes), so your 90-minute + 15-minute break calculation  is no longer correct.
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Everyone can see my betting pattern, when I bet and only when I have a deal with You for improved odds. Do we have a deal? NO
I am not betting on garbage leagues! Live!
SCAMMER! STAY AWAY!

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March 02, 2020, 10:19:18 AM
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How about manual odds manipulation , which is Malubit's bigger lure for their customers? If You can change manually the odds, You can change everything in customers accounts.

Biggest scam, which I have ever seen! Beware!

So this means that you admit that your accusation regarding your withdrawal is a lie right?  Roll Eyes

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March 02, 2020, 02:44:22 PM
 #20

@malubit

You talk only for YOUR bet with my money!

You want to return to the odds, wel let's do it 1 more time special for you.
barbaron, you have 15 years of experience?
Then you should also know that it is common in such countries that a match does not always start on time. It can easily happen that a game scheduled at 4:00 PM only starts at 4:05 PM
If we then go to 5.45 pm (normally the 90th minute) then in this case it is not the 90th minute but the 85th minute. And that is exactly what happened with your bet. I expekt it was placed somehwere in the 85th minute. The game started a few minutes later (but the game may also have been stopped for a few minutes), so your 90-minute + 15-minute break calculation  is no longer correct.

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Everyone can see my betting pattern, that I've bet only prematch and only when I have a deal with malubit for improved odds.
Everyone can compare from email communication between me and malubit, that all my bets are placed only at offered from malubit very high odds /too good to be true, right?/
In my last email, the same evening before malubit placed live bet with my money - 1087.5 mBTC I clearly stated, that until he pay off my withdrawal of 700 mBTC, I will not place further bets.  
Do we have a deal with improved odds? NO !
I am not betting on garbage leagues! Live!
SCAMMER! STAY AWAY!

Really there is no way to unveiled malubit's license? I would like to send official complaint?
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