FORTUNEJACK REQUIRES ID PROOF - BE AWARE BEFORE YOU WIN BIG!

[andulolika]

FJ seized over 5 btc of a user that won at their site with the pretext of multi-accounting. I wouldn't touch that site anymore with a stick and i left neg rating.

You have two outcomes:

Outcome 1: The gambler loses all their funds. At this point, FJ doesn't give a shit if it's laundered or not.
Outcome 2: The gambler doesn't lose all their funds. Perhaps they win some. FJ suddenly cares if it's laundered or not.

It's dishonest behavior.

True, but majority of the world does not care about morality which is a fact. I am not a fan of FJ personally due to the issues surrounding them, but their T&C rules do defend them in this case however dishonest they may be.

Those T&C are pointless if user taken them to court, and it shows what huge cunts they are.

[Stedsm]

Whenever a user wins something big on any casino (not just FJ), there remains a higher possibility that you may be asked for a KYC or they may create some reason out of thin air so to stop you from playing there as well as withdrawing and even block your account by adjoining additional terms in their ToS while (if) nobody has noticed it already.

[joksim299]

Whenever a user wins something big on any casino (not just FJ), there remains a higher possibility that you may be asked for a KYC or they may create some reason out of thin air so to stop you from playing there as well as withdrawing and even block your account by adjoining additional terms in their ToS while (if) nobody has noticed it already.

They will try to take your money with any possible way. Even for stupid reasons like multi account, too many bets etc...

[KTChampions]

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It's nothing odd, in fact it's for the benefit of users although I can understand the need of players to protect their anonimity.

How can this clause benefit users when the only time it impacts them is when they don't lose their entire balance?If you lot are shitposting, then great. Get your post quota and get the fuck out of here.

If you're actually here to engage with the dishonest practice and try to say that it's justified, then I'd love to understand the point of even allowing people to sign up without KYC.

What do you think can solve this problem?
I think that it would be good for all casinos that have different conditions for depositing and for withdrawing money to be classified as fraudulent. Perhaps this method may seem radical, but it is quite logical.

[2double0]

What do you think can solve this problem?
I think that it would be good for all casinos that have different conditions for depositing and for withdrawing money to be classified as fraudulent. Perhaps this method may seem radical, but it is quite logical.

Then nobody will use those casinos? Do you think that will happen? I do not think it's possible because these casinos build a reputation before misinterpreting their terms and conditions once again where they add anything new they wish to. My point is, we need to be a bit more active in reading those terms and conditions before signing up for their services, so not to get cheated by them. Reading will give you an idea of what you are getting involved with and how they are going to treat your info, your preferences and the most important part, your money.

[KTChampions]

What do you think can solve this problem?
I think that it would be good for all casinos that have different conditions for depositing and for withdrawing money to be classified as fraudulent. Perhaps this method may seem radical, but it is quite logical.

Then nobody will use those casinos? Do you think that will happen? I do not think it's possible because these casinos build a reputation before misinterpreting their terms and conditions once again where they add anything new they wish to. My point is, we need to be a bit more active in reading those terms and conditions before signing up for their services, so not to get cheated by them. Reading will give you an idea of what you are getting involved with and how they are going to treat your info, your preferences and the most important part, your money.

All this can be done exclusively within the law.
For example, sue casinos/exchanges/banks that have different requirements for depositing and withdrawing money. I don’t understand why this is not officially considered fraud. Perhaps some courts will side with the applicants. And in any case, such activity will positively affect the situation. To avoid lawsuits and accusations, firms will begin to correct this themselves.

[TheAndy500]

Whenever a user wins something big on any casino (not just FJ), there remains a higher possibility that you may be asked for a KYC or they may create some reason out of thin air so to stop you from playing there as well as withdrawing and even block your account by adjoining additional terms in their ToS while (if) nobody has noticed it already.

They will try to take your money with any possible way. Even for stupid reasons like multi account, too many bets etc...

Multi accounts I understand and forbid it in their ToS, probably all gambling-related websites I know. However, I have not yet met a service that bans for too many bets. 
Anyway, I understand banning for breaking the rules. But saying everywhere that playing is anonymous and then requiring KYC verification is a big manipulation in my view, even if this is included in their rules.

[2double0]

All this can be done exclusively within the law.
For example, sue casinos/exchanges/banks that have different requirements for depositing and withdrawing money. I don’t understand why this is not officially considered fraud. Perhaps some courts will side with the applicants. And in any case, such activity will positively affect the situation. To avoid lawsuits and accusations, firms will begin to correct this themselves.

When it is officially not a fraud, applicants 'like us' will surely lose to casinos as they have enough power and money to purchase the 'decision' in their favor and this is also a fear due to which many players leave the casino empty handed and don't go for a lawsuit. There requires to be proper guidelines to the players to check with them and ask their support and keep their chat as a proof if they accept that they are not going to ask you for any KYC checks, but you also need to agree when it comes to AML checks where KYC will become a highly needed step.

[Juggy777]

All this can be done exclusively within the law.
For example, sue casinos/exchanges/banks that have different requirements for depositing and withdrawing money. I don’t understand why this is not officially considered fraud. Perhaps some courts will side with the applicants. And in any case, such activity will positively affect the situation. To avoid lawsuits and accusations, firms will begin to correct this themselves.

When it is officially not a fraud, applicants 'like us' will surely lose to casinos as they have enough power and money to purchase the 'decision' in their favor and this is also a fear due to which many players leave the casino empty handed and don't go for a lawsuit. There requires to be proper guidelines to the players to check with them and ask their support and keep their chat as a proof if they accept that they are not going to ask you for any KYC checks, but you also need to agree when it comes to AML checks where KYC will become a highly needed step.

@2double0 if you need to challenge such rules then you’ll need an experienced legal team in place, who’ll study these rules and find precedents that have ruled in victims favour, but do note that these legal teams will cost you a lot so hire them only if you feel that have a strong case. As far as KYC is concerned it’s kinda controversial as the user has every right to feel aggrieved that he’s being forced to reveal his real identity, but at the same time it’s a safeguard measure by the casino to avoid being scammed by users who have a history of breaking their site rules.

[Jollyjoe]

Please note Fortunejack asks for ID proofs and find ways to eat your winnings so please use other casinos or at least dont win big on fortunejack ..

I always dreamed of not winning big money