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The adoption of blockchain technology is a work in progress. There are details that have to be worked out; a fully secure and decentralized system needs to be built; scalability and performance must be optimized. Yet there is one major tension that must be resolved first: there needs to be a strong consensus mechanism.

Consensus is the basic infrastructure for all blockchain-based actions, contracts and applications — it’s blockchain’s Layer 0. In fact, the lack of a strong consensus layer has been a large contributing factor that’s inhibited Blockchain’s mainstream adoption. Proof-of-Work, currently the incumbent consensus mechanism, struggles with issues inherent to its design — energy waste, inequity, and increasingly centralized mining. If history is any guide, long-lasting systems need a stable base — MASS provides this strong basic infrastructure layer.



What is MASS?

MASS is a basic infrastructure layer that is capable of providing consensus services across any number of public chains. In order to create a sustainable and strong Layer 0, the MASS consensus engine uses MASS Proof-of-Capacity consensus protocol. Proof-of-Capacity establishes a consensus layer that is permissionless, fair, energy efficient, secure, and universal — ensuring the fundamental security of the public chain. Proof-of-Capacity is designed to preclude the use of ASICs: participants just need to have access to storage space (such as hard drive space on a basic laptop.)

MASS Net is the first public chain to make use of the MASS consensus engine (MASS is the store-of-value in circulation and the value anchor of the MASS consensus engine). The network is permissionless — with a level of security similar to the Nakamoto consensus protocol — nodes use storage capacity to run the consensus protocol. The network tends more towards decentralization compared to bitcoin, because competition for blocks does not require the use of prohibitively expensive computing resources. The MASS consensus engine is designed to enable participants to get a fair share of the value created — anyone can mine with commonplace hardware because only a small amount of computing resources is required. Furthermore, the network can support multiple blockchain instances in parallel.

MASS Net enables users to join a secure network and maintain it without the need for permission, and provides all participants a fair share of the value created.



MASS system features:

Secure : MASS Proof-of-Capacity protocol ensures the unforgeability of proofs by using the theory of Time-memory trade-off. This, along with the use of a verifiable random function, warrants that the MASS system has 51% Byzantine Fault Tolerance. Furthermore, a fork detection punishment scheme protects the main chain from Nothing-At-Stake attacks that could split the main chain.

Fair : MASS Proof-of-Capacity guarantees that a node's block generation probability is dependent only on the proof-of-effective-capacity provided by the node. In addition, the proof-of effective-capacity is storage medium independent, so that all nodes participating in the MASS network have similar marginal costs.

Energy efficient : MASS Proof-of-Capacity only requires computing resources when initializing storage capacity. When entering the block consensus phase storage capacity, data is only accessed at O(1) complexity a timetimes. Therefore, using MASS Proof-of-Capacity for block consensus does not require continuous power-input consumption. When the MASS system performs block consensus, the computing resources used are negligible, small enough to not affect the normal usage of a computer. When storage capacity is not participating in the MASS network, it can be reformatted and used for other purposes.

Universal : During the consensus process, the node only needs to perform an access query on the initialized capacity and does not perform any data operations on it. Therefore, the same storage space can provide capacity proofs for multiple blockchain consensus instances, and nodes using the MASS Proof-of-Capacity can simultaneously support multiple blockchain instances in parallel.



MASS White Paper:

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Development documents:

https://docs.massnet.org/en/


Specification

PoC algorithm: MASS consensus
Max supply: 206,438,400
Block reward: Halving
Block time: 45 seconds (3s/Slot)
Difficulty: Retargets at every block



Miners:

•   MASS miner full node macOS: https://download.massnet.org/miner/mass-miner-1.1.0-mainnet-macos.dmg
•   MASS miner full node Windows: https://download.massnet.org/miner/mass-miner-1.1.0-mainnet-windows.exe

Full Node Wallet

•   MASS full node wallet macOS: https://download.massnet.org/wallet/mass-wallet-full-node-1.1.0-mainnet-macos.dmg
•   MASS full node wallet Windows: https://download.massnet.org/wallet/mass-wallet-full-node-1.1.0-mainnet-windows.exe


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What is Proof of Capacity(PoC)

Proof-of-Capacity (PoC) is a consensus mechanism based on providing a proof of storage space. In a PoC consensus algorithm, when a node submits a block to the network it must also provide a valid proof of capacity. It is very difficult for a node to generate a valid capacity proof without having the corresponding storage size, and the proof can be verified by any node in the network. If both the block data and the proof are valid, the block will be accepted by the rest of the network. The basic principle behind how a proof is provided is as follows: during the initialisation phase, a series of data is generated according to the protocol and is saved in the storage device capacity. When the a new block is to be generated, a part of this stored data is revealed retrieved based on the value of a random number. This data part is then used to generate a proof and the node is able to compete for the next block.

The MASS PoC protocol and bitcoin’s Nakamoto consensus protocol can both be described with a unified mathematical model. F(∙) is a one-way permutation function for space |N|_x to space |N|_y. The verifier takes a value y from space |N|_y, and within a certain period of time, the prover must submit give a corresponding value x for in space |N|_x within a certain period of time so that where F(x)=y. The Nakamoto consensus protocol uses an exhaustive brute-force search method to calculate y values with F(∙) by iterating all possible x value in order to find the right x when a collision of y happens, making multiple requests on the function to find the corresponding y value and thereby confirm the value of x. On the other hand, the MASS PoC protocol uses a look-up table method, first performing an offline analysis and recording all the x values that correspond with y, and then when solving for y simply looking up the corresponding x value when finding a y. Despite the difference in methods, in terms of security the MASS and Nakamoto consensus protocols are very similar within regards to algorithm security.

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Looks like this is not meant to be used for american, european, australian and other english speaking parts of the world.
Wallet, miner and discord are in Chinese language.
EDIT> I managed to switch it in english (gear icon)

 

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The adoption of blockchain technology is a work in progress. There are details that have to be worked out; a fully secure and decentralized system needs to be built; scalability and performance must be optimized. Yet there is one major tension that must be resolved first: there needs to be a strong consensus mechanism.



You are hitting the main bottleneck of blockchain i.e. integrating scalabilty, security and decentralization in one place. So far there is always a tradeoff b/w these three features. Bringing all these at one single table will be like a revolution.
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The adoption of blockchain technology is a work in progress. There are details that have to be worked out; a fully secure and decentralized system needs to be built; scalability and performance must be optimized. Yet there is one major tension that must be resolved first: there needs to be a strong consensus mechanism.



You are hitting the main bottleneck of blockchain i.e. integrating scalabilty, security and decentralization in one place. So far there is always a tradeoff b/w these three features. Bringing all these at one single table will be like a revolution.

There is no doubt that the concept is good.

But this is just there claim, its yet to be tested by the community. Till then we cant say anything with certainty.

We have seen so many projects coming up with big claims and after a month or two they disappeared.

MASS Blockchain Consensus Engine
► Permissionless  ► Fair  ► Energy Efficient  ► Universal  ► Secure
https://massnet.org/en/
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The adoption of blockchain technology is a work in progress. There are details that have to be worked out; a fully secure and decentralized system needs to be built; scalability and performance must be optimized. Yet there is one major tension that must be resolved first: there needs to be a strong consensus mechanism.



You are hitting the main bottleneck of blockchain i.e. integrating scalabilty, security and decentralization in one place. So far there is always a tradeoff b/w these three features. Bringing all these at one single table will be like a revolution.

There is no doubt that the concept is good.

But this is just there claim, its yet to be tested by the community. Till then we cant say anything with certainty.

We have seen so many projects coming up with big claims and after a month or two they disappeared.


You mean we have to wait till the time we see real results? Those who took mining seriously in the early days are called whales these days. No risk, no gain.
Jumping in this project won't cost me that big. I can start mining on my laptop. I will keep this in my portfolio.
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I am following this project now, hoping something good comes out of this.
Just one quick question, is this project run on ICO or IEO?
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I am following this project now, hoping something good comes out of this.
Just one quick question, is this project run on ICO or IEO?
there is no ico no premined no treasury, no nothing, it will be mined from zero.
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I am following this project now, hoping something good comes out of this.
Just one quick question, is this project run on ICO or IEO?
there is no ico no premined no treasury, no nothing, it will be mined from zero.

No pre-ICO, ICO, no premined and no airdrop means all participants will get the coins at the same rate. I have seen a few projects following this strategy to make sure they generate good capital.
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I am following this project now, hoping something good comes out of this.
Just one quick question, is this project run on ICO or IEO?
there is no ico no premined no treasury, no nothing, it will be mined from zero.
Hi, the Block Height now is 387938, is it a testnet?
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you forgot the last 'e' in this link
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you forgot the last 'e' in this link
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thank you sir, fixed it. Wink
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March 05, 2020, 06:23:03 PM
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The good thing about this project is that it's open for all miners. You don't need expensive hardware to participate in the mining process. In other words, making mining purely decentralized, which is a long demand of miners. Admin, you can correct me if I am wrong.
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The good thing about this project is that it's open for all miners. You don't need expensive hardware to participate in the mining process. In other words, making mining purely decentralized, which is a long demand of miners. Admin, you can correct me if I am wrong.

Hard to digest this fact seriously. Just like this forum provides maximum benefit to senior members and nothing to newcomers like me.
It will a big hit since there are many mining enthusiastic in underdeveloped countries who only have computers and an internet connection for mining.
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I am following this project now, hoping something good comes out of this.
Just one quick question, is this project run on ICO or IEO?
there is no ico no premined no treasury, no nothing, it will be mined from zero.
Hi, the Block Height now is 387938, is it a testnet?

no sir, the mainnet is already on
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ok, so you are making mining decentralized which means anyone can participate in mining process.
can you please tell me on which exchange your tokens are listed and was the worth of these tokens which I will get after mining?
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The biggest advantage of PoC over PoW and PoS is that it lowers the entry barrier for miners and makes the mining process more decentralized, secure and reliable. I hope it will remain decentralized even after value of your coin increases?
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March 06, 2020, 12:49:59 PM
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Nodes use storage capacity to run the consensus protocol and do not require permission. The MASS consensus engine is fair and energy efficient; only a very small amount of computing resources are required, meaning everyone has the chance to participate. MASS Docs


This is very innovative.
We only need hard disk on our computer to start mining, no ASIC, no expensive graphic card.
Whoever thought that mining can be done in that way?
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Is anyone verified the softwares if it's clean? Looks like risky to install in personal computers.
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Check out their punishment mechanism, it's simple compared to PoW/PoS.

Punishment mechanism
If the miner receives two block headers containing the same proof and the same height, it proves that the miner is mining in multiple forked chains. Then the miner builds a punishment proposal in the coinbase transaction, which contains two different block headers and outputs a punished pk.
If this block is added to the main chain, then all miners extract blacklist from the main chain and add this pk to the local blacklist
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Is anyone verified the softwares if it's clean? Looks like risky to install in personal computers.

I installed it and working fine at my end. no spyware/malware.
The default language is Chinese you can change it to English.
happy mining.
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This is an interesting project. You much also try to generate funds from private investors. Don't rely on ICO crowdfunding only. The more options you have better are your chances of success. good luck

I would say those who are launching their projects right now have really strong nerves. ICO market is down and it will be very challenging to have success in the ICO market.
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are you kidding? to keep your network secure, you need more hash power and here you say you can mine using hard disk of your computer. It must be a scam type of thing I would say.
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are you kidding? to keep your network secure, you need more hash power and here you say you can mine using hard disk of your computer. It must be a scam type of thing I would say.


Every new innovation faces criticism at the start. Remember satoshi's invention was rarely welcomed by anyone in early days. It will take some time for people to understand that mining can be decentralized.
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PoW backing the BTC has some serious limitations and has reached the point where we have to think of some alternate consensus algorithm. PoC may be one good replacement for PoW/PoS,  one thing is clear that PoW cant handle massive rallies like the one witness in Dec 2017.
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It reminds me of time when bitcoin mining was done on computers and very few took it seriously. I don't know how this will perform in the future but it's also free right now. Are we missing another opportunity?
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During the initialization phase, a series of data is generated according to the protocol and is saved in the storage capacity. When a new block is to be generated, a part of this stored data is revealed based on the value of a random number. This data is then used to generate a proof, and the node is able to compete for the next block. The process consists of five stages: initialisation, block building, block reception, main chain selection, and punishment mechanism. (Source)

I can see that this consensus algorithm can solve the issues of scalability (since this all won't take much time) and security. Rest admin can you explain how this can help in achieving decentralization?
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I seriously don't have much understanding of the technical details of blockchain. The idea just clicked me that I can mine coins using my computer and hard disk. So I am getting started with this. Hope I can get some good return.
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The good thing is you can get everything at one place. https://massnet.org/en/download. The wallet, miner and mainnet code.
Can you change the default language of miner to English? it is Chinese right now.
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MASS coin is not on exchange right now. Fine.
Is there any utility of MASS coin now? like can I use it somewhere? like paying my restaurant bill or buying some stuff online.
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This looks like an interesting project. Hopefully the dev(s) will update the ANN thread with more information and details soon. The website is very vague. The Telegram channel is also small (200 members) with little to no contact from anyone except people asking questions. What is the minimum HDD space to run the wallet, miner, and node?
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Count me in since this is also supporting Linux OS for mining. I don't think anyone will risk his MAC machine for mining but anyone having an old computer can set it up for mining on Linux OS. Many Linux enthusiastic will join this .
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This looks like an interesting project. Hopefully, the dev(s) will update the ANN thread with more information and details soon. What is the minimum HDD space to run the wallet, miner, and node?

I don't think you need some massive HDD to start mining. May be this one can be useful for you if you want to start mining this coin

"For the test network, During the Testnet, users need to have a computer connected to the internet, a storage medium (e.g. a hard drive), the full-node client for MASS, and Full Node Client for Testnet running on, and a 64-bit Linux or macOS operating system that is capable of running the MASS full-node client. Other than these, there are no other specific requirements besides. For a more detailed guide, please refer to the MASS project documentation.

For the main network, follow the instructions in the MASS full node client and the full node wallet configuration manual." Source
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I  have 2 old PCs and a spare internet connection. I am thinking of setting up a mining rig for this coin. I am sure I will get a good surprise in the end, if not its not a huge investment.
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PoC is different from other consensus algorithms introduced very recently. with the lightning network not getting much success we know we need a new consensus algo. let's see who gets the contract.
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ok, so you are making mining decentralized which means anyone can participate in mining process.
can you please tell me on which exchange your tokens are listed and was the worth of these tokens which I will get after mining?
massnet is on very early stage, it haven't been listed yet, it will be soon
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This looks like an interesting project. Hopefully the dev(s) will update the ANN thread with more information and details soon. The website is very vague. The Telegram channel is also small (200 members) with little to no contact from anyone except people asking questions. What is the minimum HDD space to run the wallet, miner, and node?
thank u sir, mass is on very early stage, the economics will be pubilish soon, and also, full node wallet and miner is ready on offcial website, miner can setup their own full node rightnow. Furthermore, mass is already supported by ming pool.
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Hi, can you please give me approximate info? if I will mine for exaple with 420GB space, how often I will mine blocks?
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Miner is NOT working people, so don't waste your time with this.
One Chinese Mining Pool has all coins, and guess who owns it?

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What do you mean? 1 person own all coins?

No. I did not say that.
Explorer and ask more questions if you are interested to find out more.

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Miner is NOT working people, so don't waste your time with this.
One Chinese Mining Pool has all coins, and guess who owns it?
Massent is permssionless for everyone, from most of user, the miner is working well, it is full node miner,you have to wait for syncing finished, and then start to plot. btw, you also can building your own pool if you like to.
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Miner is NOT working people, so don't waste your time with this.
One Chinese Mining Pool has all coins, and guess who owns it?
Miner is working fine and there has been no ico, no premining. It's started from zero.
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Massent is permssionless for everyone, from most of user, the miner is working well, it is full node miner,you have to wait for syncing finished, and then start to plot. btw, you also can building your own pool if you like to.

Official miner is NOT working.
How to check it out?
- Download, wait to sync and visit Telegram chat with bunch of people who say it is not working.

Chinese mining pool have all the coins, and they have their own separate miner.
I wonder why is that...

Btw. they deleted discord chat also.
I don't know why.

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Massent is permssionless for everyone, from most of user, the miner is working well, it is full node miner,you have to wait for syncing finished, and then start to plot. btw, you also can building your own pool if you like to.

Official miner is NOT working.
How to check it out?
- Download, wait to sync and visit Telegram chat with bunch of people who say it is not working.

Chinese mining pool have all the coins, and they have their own separate miner.
I wonder why is that...

Btw. they deleted discord chat also.
I don't know why.
There was an issue with miner but is now solved. You claim that mining pool have all coins? How is that?
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Are you on GitHub? please do share the link of your GitHub, I need to see the code of your miner software.
I always check code, specially mining software before installing it.
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Github here:

https://github.com/massnetorg
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Are you on GitHub? please do share the link of your GitHub, I need to see the code of your miner software.
I always check code, specially mining software before installing it.
code of miner is open sourced, i can find on offcial web, go to download, i'll find it at the button
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It seems to me that it is necessary to disseminate the news about the appearance of open source on github more widely.
Let the developer community research it and express their opinion in full. So far I see only 6 followers on github.
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market?


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It seems to me that it is necessary to disseminate the news about the appearance of open source on github more widely.
Let the developer community research it and express their opinion in full. So far I see only 6 followers on github.


This is understandable, as project is in its early days. Whats important is the feedback of these few followers. If we have positive testing report from at least 3 followers of there mining software, we can safely say that miner has no malicious code.
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PoC is very simple to understand compared to other new consensus algorithms. The consensus is done in two parts,
1. Concent on election of block rights.  consensus of the blockchain is actually divided into two parts, one is the consensus on the election of 2. Concent on the block data structure and on-chain rules.
So its about just breaking the complexity to simplicity to achievee same good results as that of PoW.
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As you know, one of the disadvantages of PoC is its lack of popularity. In view of this, there is a high probability of the appearance of ransomware malware that can harm equipment in one way or another.
I believe marketing should be aimed primarily at promoting this method.

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As you know, one of the disadvantages of PIC is its lack of popularity. In view of this, there is a high probability of the appearance of ransomware malware that can harm equipment in one way or another.
I believe marketing should be aimed primarily at promoting this method.

you mean this consensus can become useless if there is ransomware malware on nodes?

I think ransomware malware has to compromise all nodes in order to make the consensus useless. Moreover, PoC has 51% Byzantine Fault Tolerance, so I think its robust enough to tackle that.
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any mining pool MASS has? I don't find any on the website, its a mining centric project should have mining pool.
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any mining pool MASS has? I don't find any on the website, its a mining centric project should have mining pool.

WePool. You can find more details here on the site https://masscafe.cn/

you can do local as well as cloud mining depending upon your preferences.
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PoC is very simple to understand compared to other new consensus algorithms. The consensus is done in two parts,
1. Concent on election of block rights.  consensus of the blockchain is actually divided into two parts, one is the consensus on the election of 2. Concent on the block data structure and on-chain rules.
So its about just breaking the complexity to simplicity to achievee same good results as that of PoW.



Consensus algorithms that are secure are also centralized. Achieving both decentralization and scalability in one consensus is not possible.
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PoC is very simple to understand compared to other new consensus algorithms. The consensus is done in two parts,
1. Concent on election of block rights.  consensus of the blockchain is actually divided into two parts, one is the consensus on the election of 2. Concent on the block data structure and on-chain rules.
So its about just breaking the complexity to simplicity to achievee same good results as that of PoW.



Consensus algorithms that are secure are also centralized. Achieving both decentralization and scalability in one consensus is not possible.

Mainnest is live and you can check yourself how its performing. I am mining MASS on my laptop with 400 GB. The catch is to have as many MASS coins in your wallet as possible before it gets listed on any exchange.
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You don't need dedicated PC to mine MASS, your everyday use PC can mine MASS as PoC takes very little resources to reach consensus.

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In each block generation window, the MASS Cclient only needs to perform extremely lightweight light reads and calculations, including a few hashes, a few kilobytes of bandwidth usage, and the corresponding storage and internet operations input / output operations (IO). These minor tasks have a negligible impact on the performance of modern computer systems.
https://massnet.org/en/about

I found this useful. Can anyone confirm that?

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I want to start mining MASS. Can anyone guide me how can i do that? I want to jump into it to see wts the potential in it.

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Looks interesting, that they use  two methods for processing the public key (PK):
double SHA256 and the other is to generate a transaction address according to the Bitcoin address generationprotocol (c) WP https://download.massnet.org/research/MASS-A%20Blockchain%20Consensus%20Engine.pdf
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MASS block explorer charts:
https://explorer.masscafe.cn
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This project looks good, I hope this project is far different on the other that are launched earlier, I'd like to learn how to start mining using my spare storage on my pc.
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I installed the both miners and wallet, the problem is, im not even understand it, do you have an english version of wallet? the instruction is written in chinese, i dunno what language it is.
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When you start wallet then fast click the gear icon and change language. Let the miner fully sync before start plotting.
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I installed the both miners and wallet, the problem is, im not even understand it, do you have an english version of wallet? the instruction is written in chinese, i dunno what language it is.
What instruction are you referring to in Chinese? Can you give me a link? This is the official document.https://docs.massnet.org/en/
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GI wallet not work on windows 10?  Huh Huh Huh
You mean GUI Wallet ? Of course support win10 system Grin Grin Grin
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MASS Website
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The technical documentation is rather scarce for a project of this kind. Will it be an extended version, or is this 9 pages all with which the project is going to go to investors?
I think this is normal. Most users are accustomed to lightweight material. But the strong miners will not be scared away  with excess information!
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Considering the fact that all mining will take place without the participation of large capacities, it can be assumed that the economic model will look quite acceptable, given the reduced electricity costs.
Apparently, the main question is in the popularization of this method.

How exactly will your marketing company go?

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The technical documentation is rather scarce for a project of this kind. Will it be an extended version, or is this 9 pages all with which the project is going to go to investors?
the white paper is just for people to understand what the project is trying to bring, if you wanna details, there r documentation can be found below
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How to begin to miner? I down the miner app ,but can't miner because the Capacity grade need binding requirement , but I don't have any MASS
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How to begin to miner? I down the miner app ,but can't miner because the Capacity grade need binding requirement , but I don't have any MASS
you dont need to have mass  to start mining, binding is that if you binding, you can have extra rewards. otherwise, the rewards would be given to staking users.
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Do you have wechat group in Chinese ?
havent yet, but we r trying to build our chinese community
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Let me know if you have an available wallet that has an english instruction, I'd like to start mining this coin using my spare HDD in my pc, so hope you will provide the community the appropriate wallet.
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Let me know if you have an available wallet that has an english instruction, I'd like to start mining this coin using my spare HDD in my pc, so hope you will provide the community the appropriate wallet.

Wallet has English. click the gear icon.
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Let me know if you have an available wallet that has an english instruction, I'd like to start mining this coin using my spare HDD in my pc, so hope you will provide the community the appropriate wallet.
the wallet and miner have both english and chinese
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How to begin to miner? I down the miner app ,but can't miner because the Capacity grade need binding requirement , but I don't have any MASS
you dont need to have mass  to start mining, binding is that if you binding, you can have extra rewards. otherwise, the rewards would be given to staking users.

I had down the MASS Miner ,when I configure the miner and enter the password but can‘t go on the next step ,nothing happens,the miner stop at this "enter password" interface? what wrong?
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I found a MASS miner pool , MASS can solo ?
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I found a MASS miner pool , MASS can solo ?
yes, you can, miner and full node wallet is avaliable above.
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I found a MASS miner pool , MASS can solo ?
yes, you can, miner and full node wallet is avaliable above.

Plotting is only way to use the miner APP? It's so slowly , I have a GPU ,have any way to make plot fast ?

and today the network difficulty is 9.25P,how many MASS can I get 1Tb/day ?
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Can someone please short explain the different between MASS and BURST Coin?
https://www.burst-coin.org

Thanks!

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March 15, 2020, 06:08:47 PM
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There is a new consensus algorithm in the market proof of capacity PoC.

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Based on a Proof-of-Capacity consensus protocol, the MASS consensus engine creates a consensus layer that is permissionless, fair, energy efficiency, secure, and universal, ensuring the fundamental security of the public chain.
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This is an ideal sort of consensus algorithm. I will keep an eye on this.

We will take the necessary action to rebrand it. Proof of capacity aint a good proof these days. People demand better proofs that validate the sense of life, an odd distortion of pudena when it is terrorized by louse and connection between two facts above. Nobody wants to feed nobody with lies. This evinces that we as crypto investors evolved to be at the top of a biological food chain. This adjusts our status to the status of gods.
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I sent the transaction to the site masscafe.cn in BTC but the coins were not received on the site although the transaction is confirmed, where you can write except WeChat Huh (I can not register in it) https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/144133cdda41cd5aa3d42fe05280cdfd495f8825bb3aa4bc1b7dc05cde152aff   ( 0.00159359 btc )     https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/7ef10bccea74b0d85f445a8719253ab0761a784f246cd8426103f22ae8d4ad45   ( 0,00158514 btc)

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I found another question: when I mining MASS, the polt files are storage on my PC hard disk C:, how can I change to another disk?
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I sent the transaction to the site masscafe.cn in BTC but the coins were not received on the site although the transaction is confirmed, where you can write except WeChat Huh (I can not register in it) https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/144133cdda41cd5aa3d42fe05280cdfd495f8825bb3aa4bc1b7dc05cde152aff   ( 0.00159359 btc )     https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/7ef10bccea74b0d85f445a8719253ab0761a784f246cd8426103f22ae8d4ad45   ( 0,00158514 btc)

What does this mean, you bought cloud space with btc?
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I sent the transaction to the site masscafe.cn in BTC but the coins were not received on the site although the transaction is confirmed, where you can write except WeChat Huh (I can not register in it) https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/144133cdda41cd5aa3d42fe05280cdfd495f8825bb3aa4bc1b7dc05cde152aff   ( 0.00159359 btc )     https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/7ef10bccea74b0d85f445a8719253ab0761a784f246cd8426103f22ae8d4ad45   ( 0,00158514 btc)

did u contact with support?
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Can someone please short explain the different between MASS and BURST Coin?
https://www.burst-coin.org

Thanks!
mass consensus algorithm is new buit, it is different with burst.
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I sent the transaction to the site masscafe.cn in BTC but the coins were not received on the site although the transaction is confirmed, where you can write except WeChat Huh (I can not register in it) https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/144133cdda41cd5aa3d42fe05280cdfd495f8825bb3aa4bc1b7dc05cde152aff   ( 0.00159359 btc )     https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/7ef10bccea74b0d85f445a8719253ab0761a784f246cd8426103f22ae8d4ad45   ( 0,00158514 btc)

What does this mean, you bought cloud space with btc?

Maybe because the order is delayed, it should be effective now
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I sent the transaction to the site masscafe.cn in BTC but the coins were not received on the site although the transaction is confirmed, where you can write except WeChat Huh (I can not register in it) https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/144133cdda41cd5aa3d42fe05280cdfd495f8825bb3aa4bc1b7dc05cde152aff   ( 0.00159359 btc )     https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/7ef10bccea74b0d85f445a8719253ab0761a784f246cd8426103f22ae8d4ad45   ( 0,00158514 btc)

What does this mean, you bought cloud space with btc?

Maybe because the order is delayed, it should be effective now
@Teo_Qi This is the customer service tel account, you can add  to consult
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I sent the transaction to the site masscafe.cn in BTC but the coins were not received on the site although the transaction is confirmed, where you can write except WeChat Huh (I can not register in it) https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/144133cdda41cd5aa3d42fe05280cdfd495f8825bb3aa4bc1b7dc05cde152aff   ( 0.00159359 btc )     https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/7ef10bccea74b0d85f445a8719253ab0761a784f246cd8426103f22ae8d4ad45   ( 0,00158514 btc)

What does this mean, you bought cloud space with btc?

Maybe because the order is delayed, it should be effective now
@Teo_Qi This is the customer service tel account, you can add  to consult
thank you, everything was received and space was given

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I can't even sync the blockchain, anyone else got the same problem as me? Roll Eyes
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I can't even sync the blockchain, anyone else got the same problem as me? Roll Eyes
it takes a long time to sync on your wallet, 12-18 hours

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I can't even sync the blockchain, anyone else got the same problem as me? Roll Eyes
for full node, it takes time to sync, you can also choose mining pool
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I can't even sync the blockchain, anyone else got the same problem as me? Roll Eyes
for full node, it takes time to sync, you can also choose mining pool
and with the mining pool in General something is output Huh, I just get this error  3 days, it is unknown whether I can withdraw something  Undecided
 
did u contact with support of the pool?
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what is the requirement to mine the mass?


For the test network, During the Testnet, users need to have a computer connected to the internet, a storage medium (e.g. a hard drive), the full-node client for MASS, and Full Node Client for Testnet running on, and a 64-bit Linux or macOS operating system that is capable of running the MASS full-node client. Other than these, there are no other specific requirements besides. For a more detailed guide, please refer to the MASS project documentation.

For the main network, follow the instructions in the MASS full node client and the full node wallet configuration manual.

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what is the requirement to mine the mass?


For the test network, During the Testnet, users need to have a computer connected to the internet, a storage medium (e.g. a hard drive), the full-node client for MASS, and Full Node Client for Testnet running on, and a 64-bit Linux or macOS operating system that is capable of running the MASS full-node client. Other than these, there are no other specific requirements besides. For a more detailed guide, please refer to the MASS project documentation.

For the main network, follow the instructions in the MASS full node client and the full node wallet configuration manual.



I am mining on my ubuntu OS with 500 GB HADD, 8 GB RAM. Its old laptop and in fact very much outdated but still it's doing fine for mining MASS tokens. I have kept it for so long. luckily I found some use of it.
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March 27, 2020, 05:54:29 PM
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As of now btc is giving 12.5 btc reward per block. What's the reward per block given by MASS?
or is there any different method of giving reward?
sorry for my ignorance.

initial BTC miners got a huge reward for mining BTC on their computers i.e. 50 BTC per block. You will get loads of MASS coins as it's in its very early days, who knows one days this will be on moon. just saying

Yes, who knows where this coins may end up. Not many take new coins serious in their early days. I am impressed with this project since they have complete documentation available for every thing, not just a website that is selling tokens with no info about the underlying technology.

Thats why I already set up a small farm at my home, where my home computers are mining this and interesting part is that all three never gets over loaded, I used to do routine work on these three computers apart from mining.
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Another thing that popped into my mind is that we have to bring our HDD for mining MASS tokens. How can I be sure that data on my HDD is never compromised? Thats a big concern for anyone mining cryto with his HDD.

MASS experts can answer this question. I just have advice that uses the computer that doesn't have any of your confidential data or encrypt data residing on the HDD before taking it to mining pool.
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Has anyone tried mining this coin? Please share your experience about how it was like how much time you mined and what return you get.

There are a few MASS miners here. Have you tried posting this on there Telegram community channel? I have seen many asking questions related to setting up miner and issues related to mining MASS. post your findings here.
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Has anyone tried mining this coin? Please share your experience about how it was like how much time you mined and what return you get.


You can try there mining pool https://masscafe.cn/ .
I am not advertising their pool, please DYOR before you Join that pool. It's from China and China is hub of all sorts of mining.
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Was looking forward to a new HDD coin...but...
Only pool requires your mobile number for login....can't imagine most miners being ok with that.
I managed to "plot" a few hunderd GB, but now it says "plotting" but nothing happnens, my plots have stopped growing.
Cannot withdraw coins until you reach 30, which according to the pool 1TB earns about 0.5 coins a day, so will take 60 days with 1TB.

All in all, pretty crap launch....oh, and already at block 443401 with diff 192,149,841,589,020,030, so it feels like some massive miners must be winning a huge amount of blocks.

If anyone knows how to mine this coin correctly please let me know....

Update, so i now have 0.24340604 MASS in my wallet but the pool says



3.49709169
云空间收益/pc端收益 (which translates to
Cloud space revenue / pc-side revenue
3.25368565/0.24340604

What the heck, so i am basically mining for someone else??? 3.25 MASS to the "cloud" and 0.24 MASS to me.....
What is going on.

They are in there initial stages probably that's why we are encountering such issues. Have you tried posting this on there TG t.me/massnetorg
I got my issues related to setting up miner fixed there. May be you can find a fix for this also. Or wait for moderator answer here.
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Was looking forward to a new HDD coin...but...
Only pool requires your mobile number for login....can't imagine most miners being ok with that.
I managed to "plot" a few hunderd GB, but now it says "plotting" but nothing happnens, my plots have stopped growing.
Cannot withdraw coins until you reach 30, which according to the pool 1TB earns about 0.5 coins a day, so will take 60 days with 1TB.

All in all, pretty crap launch....oh, and already at block 443401 with diff 192,149,841,589,020,030, so it feels like some massive miners must be winning a huge amount of blocks.

If anyone knows how to mine this coin correctly please let me know....

Update, so i now have 0.24340604 MASS in my wallet but the pool says



3.49709169
云空间收益/pc端收益 (which translates to
Cloud space revenue / pc-side revenue
3.25368565/0.24340604

What the heck, so i am basically mining for someone else??? 3.25 MASS to the "cloud" and 0.24 MASS to me.....
What is going on.
Hi there, mining pool service is offered by third party. You should try to contact support. From my knowledge, the pool have been given free 1T cloud space for 3 days, the reward will be yours.
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at today's price 25 coins cost about 90 cents a day

Is that true and they are offering 1 MASS a week for legendary members for wearing their avatar and signature code that's 0.27 cents a week for wearing the signature code and avatar we don't know the price but if the price you mentioned is correct then it's not worth promoting this project at 0.27 cents a week.

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Is that true and they are offering 1 MASS a week for legendary members for wearing their avatar and signature code that's 0.27 cents a week for wearing the signature code and avatar we don't know the price but if the price you mentioned is correct then it's not worth promoting this project at 0.27 cents a week.
It's better to buy coins than to have to participate in the bounty of this project, whether the team is joking or insulting the bounty hunter because they only pay 0.27 cents/week Cheesy
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at today's price 25 coins cost about 90 cents a day

Is that true and they are offering 1 MASS a week for legendary members for wearing their avatar and signature code that's 0.27 cents a week for wearing the signature code and avatar we don't know the price but if the price you mentioned is correct then it's not worth promoting this project at 0.27 cents a week.
from the messages of the telegram chat administrator, I realized that the bounty was organized not by the team, but by a pool that allegedly has nothing to do with the team

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Terrible project....
I started plotting a 2TB drive, got about 200GB plotted (which took 7 hours) when i decided to add a second 2TB drive...for some reason when i next checked it had started from scratch again...
18 hours later, it has only done about 420GB but split unequally across the 2 drives....
Why can't this plots be done like BURST. I can plot a 8TB drive a day with BURST plots, i can't even plot 1TB a day with this
Why can't i decide what plots i want, and how i want to control them?
With this it like guess work controlled by someone else....
Also no exchanges yet, so don't see where the prices are coming from...but it 8TB earns only 90 cents a day then with power costs i will be -$1.50 a day, so completely pointless.
Why are all these new POC coins so poor.....
Just a simple BURST clone would be so much cleaner...simple plotting, simple mining, clear pools....no wonder most of crypto feels like a con at the moment.

Frustrating....

Thanks for sharing your experience, now those thinking of mining this coin will have something to think about if it's worth mining this coin, and those who will participate in the bounty campaign better think twice or look around if there are other projects worth your time and effort, 28 cents a week is not the price of your worth as a bounty hunter.

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Terrible project....
I started plotting a 2TB drive, got about 200GB plotted (which took 7 hours) when i decided to add a second 2TB drive...for some reason when i next checked it had started from scratch again...
18 hours later, it has only done about 420GB but split unequally across the 2 drives....
Why can't this plots be done like BURST. I can plot a 8TB drive a day with BURST plots, i can't even plot 1TB a day with this
Why can't i decide what plots i want, and how i want to control them?
With this it like guess work controlled by someone else....
Also no exchanges yet, so don't see where the prices are coming from...but it 8TB earns only 90 cents a day then with power costs i will be -$1.50 a day, so completely pointless.
Why are all these new POC coins so poor.....
Just a simple BURST clone would be so much cleaner...simple plotting, simple mining, clear pools....no wonder most of crypto feels like a con at the moment.

Frustrating....

It's like betting I would say. You keep mining them on the hope that they may give you good price in the future once it's lifted on exchange. The same was said about bitcoin in its early days. Your choice!!!
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hi. my computer does not beckon at all, I bought 120 days for $ 60 8TB on this pool https://masscafe.cn/ and this is mining, the computer has nothing to do with it

Do you have any estimate of how many miners are in that pool? for how long you are mining on this pool?
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You only have to wear an avatar, text, and signature. Then pray for more participants to join the bounty. There is no limit of posts per week in stage 1. So I think it's not a bad deal. Still I don't qualify for that Sad
Not a bad deal?! you are getting paid 27 cents per week, you are lower than a slave if you think that way can I hire you for 27 cents a week for ten weeks posting 10 post a week let's see what will you feel , better stay a newbie if you think that way.

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You only have to wear an avatar, text, and signature. Then pray for more participants to join the bounty. There is no limit of posts per week in stage 1. So I think it's not a bad deal. Still I don't qualify for that Sad
Not a bad deal?! you are getting paid 27 cents per week, you are lower than a slave if you think that way can I hire you for 27 cents a week for ten weeks posting 10 post a week let's see what will you feel , better stay a newbie if you think that way.
i'm so confuse about the 27 cents you always mentioned around, mass havent been listed, there is no price for now, did you got scam or something? did you really trade on that price? if you did, prove it, i personally will give double price to buy it from you.Smiley
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Terrible project....
I started plotting a 2TB drive, got about 200GB plotted (which took 7 hours) when i decided to add a second 2TB drive...for some reason when i next checked it had started from scratch again...
18 hours later, it has only done about 420GB but split unequally across the 2 drives....
Why can't this plots be done like BURST. I can plot a 8TB drive a day with BURST plots, i can't even plot 1TB a day with this
Why can't i decide what plots i want, and how i want to control them?
With this it like guess work controlled by someone else....
Also no exchanges yet, so don't see where the prices are coming from...but it 8TB earns only 90 cents a day then with power costs i will be -$1.50 a day, so completely pointless.
Why are all these new POC coins so poor.....
Just a simple BURST clone would be so much cleaner...simple plotting, simple mining, clear pools....no wonder most of crypto feels like a con at the moment.

Frustrating....

It's like betting I would say. You keep mining them on the hope that they may give you good price in the future once it's lifted on exchange. The same was said about bitcoin in its early days. Your choice!!!

It's nothing like betting at all.
When BTC was first mined it was mined directly using the wallet and you saw the results in front of your eyes. It was many months before it went to external cpu, and then had nearly 2 years mined with gpus, and pools....
As for this coin it is a POC coin not a POW coin. try doing some homework and look at BURST the original POC coin, and you will learn the differences, and why this one will most likely fail.
Or....simply flip a coin to pick your coins to mine....
it is great to hear from some real miner, it is not betting or it is betting it is not important, the truth is 1. from consensus algrithm layer we used time-memory trade off, it has significantly improvement in security which is different with burst. 2. the plotting speed is depends on the usage of your cpu, if you looking to the code, whichi is opern sourced, the full node mienr still lots of space for improvement in plotting speed, we are working on it, it would be great if you can help with coding.

Anyway to get to know the team. Can't find a mention or profile anywhere
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April 07, 2020, 01:30:37 PM
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To user MASSNET

Can you please tell users what files they should download, and how to use this coin please.

I have tried several ways but find the software buggy at best.

1).. "mass-wallet-full-node-1.1.0-mainnet-windows.exe" - Takes ages to sync on any windows PC regardless of spec, and provides an "address" OK....
2).."mass-miner-1.1.0-mainnet-windows.exe" - Same as aboce takes ages to "sync" but does nothing. I put say 10GB in "Preset Capacity" and my address from the above FullNode wallet into "Address" field, and then it asks for "passphrase" which i enter...a box saying "loading" with a ring of dots flashes in the background, but never does anything...

3).."pc-miner-win-latest.exe" terrible software. I have finally managed to PLOT 3TB, which has taken 5 days on a Ryzen 1800x with SSD and 32GB ram, but when i tried to take the external 4TB HHD it was plotting to, to transfer to a low powered PC so it could mine, it wiped the plots and started from ZERO again....
Since i started this project the sum total of my wallet is 9 MASS and the withdrawl min is 30...

So i can only conclude this project is some form of scam

So user MASSNET please explain what i am doing wrong. How do i plot the drives on a fast machine to then use on a low powered machine.
Why doesn;t the "mass-miner-1.1.0-mainnet-windows.exe" file work (I am using clean install Win 10, all defaults, no AV)

Why does "pc-miner-win-latest.exe" put a copy of itself in appdata local, and roaming....why is it writing many huge files there, the plotting should be done in ram and then written directly to the location the plot files are stored.

Also, why am i seeing a massive amount of internet traffic when running your software?
Why have i had to reinstall Microsft Edge" 3 times now because your software appears to overwrite it?
Why on a seperate Win10 pc 2c/4t which has been plotting using "pc-miner-win-latest.exe" has it worked for 3 days solid (only plotting 200GB thou) but when Edge broke and i reinstalled it, the plotting has now stopped and wont restart?

I think you need to explain what is going on with your software...


Hi, there thanks for your patient, before i answer your question, may i ask you a question that have you ever ran a bitcoin full node to mine bitcoin? BR
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You only have to wear an avatar, text, and signature. Then pray for more participants to join the bounty. There is no limit of posts per week in stage 1. So I think it's not a bad deal. Still I don't qualify for that Sad
Not a bad deal?! you are getting paid 27 cents per week, you are lower than a slave if you think that way can I hire you for 27 cents a week for ten weeks posting 10 post a week let's see what will you feel , better stay a newbie if you think that way.
i'm so confuse about the 27 cents you always mentioned around, mass havent been listed, there is no price for now, did you got scam or something? did you really trade on that price? if you did, prove it, i personally will give double price to buy it from you.Smiley
hello sir, I think for your signature campaign it is very quiet or any other campaign because no one knows the total allocation of figures that can be calculated, you must act and make changes so that your supporters do not feel confused

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where to trade???
exchange yet???
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April 10, 2020, 09:06:30 AM
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Can you please tell users what files they should download, and how to use this coin please.

I have tried several ways but find the software buggy at best.

1).. "mass-wallet-full-node-1.1.0-mainnet-windows.exe" - Takes ages to sync on any windows PC regardless of spec, and provides an "address" OK....
2).."mass-miner-1.1.0-mainnet-windows.exe" - Same as aboce takes ages to "sync" but does nothing. I put say 10GB in "Preset Capacity" and my address from the above FullNode wallet into "Address" field, and then it asks for "passphrase" which i enter...a box saying "loading" with a ring of dots flashes in the background, but never does anything...

3).."pc-miner-win-latest.exe" terrible software. I have finally managed to PLOT 3TB, which has taken 5 days on a Ryzen 1800x with SSD and 32GB ram, but when i tried to take the external 4TB HHD it was plotting to, to transfer to a low powered PC so it could mine, it wiped the plots and started from ZERO again....
Since i started this project the sum total of my wallet is 9 MASS and the withdrawl min is 30...

So i can only conclude this project is some form of scam

So user MASSNET please explain what i am doing wrong. How do i plot the drives on a fast machine to then use on a low powered machine.
Why doesn;t the "mass-miner-1.1.0-mainnet-windows.exe" file work (I am using clean install Win 10, all defaults, no AV)

Why does "pc-miner-win-latest.exe" put a copy of itself in appdata local, and roaming....why is it writing many huge files there, the plotting should be done in ram and then written directly to the location the plot files are stored.

Also, why am i seeing a massive amount of internet traffic when running your software?
Why have i had to reinstall Microsft Edge" 3 times now because your software appears to overwrite it?
Why on a seperate Win10 pc 2c/4t which has been plotting using "pc-miner-win-latest.exe" has it worked for 3 days solid (only plotting 200GB thou) but when Edge broke and i reinstalled it, the plotting has now stopped and wont restart?

I think you need to explain what is going on with your software...


Hi, there thanks for your patient, before i answer your question, may i ask you a question that have you ever ran a bitcoin full node to mine bitcoin? BR

Yes i have, many years ago before they removed that function.
I also currently solo mine over 200 coins.
ok let me answer your question.
1. full node wallet needs time to synch, same with bitcoin, the speed of synch is depends on the network enviroment, when more and more full node is setup nearby, synch would be quicker.
2. the same reason with 1.
3. the pc miner is a product from a third party mining pool, not from mass core team. i think they offer it to ensure that normal pc users who dont have much space can join in the network. it is linked to thier mining pool, so full node miner is still recommended, or you can build your own mining pool
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Hi Guys,
Is anyone using the fullnode miner? If so how much are you mining per day with how many TB please?
I'm using 1TB and and mining ZERO.

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1TB is too small to get block reward, right now the total storage is about more than 100PB
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Hi Guys,
Is anyone using the fullnode miner? If so how much are you mining per day with how many TB please?
I'm using 1TB and and mining ZERO.

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1TB is too small to get block reward, right now the total storage is about more than 100PB
Impossible,The Predicted Revenue per TB per Day is 0.499 MASS(Where you can find here:https://masscafe.cn/wepool/home).
The block reward for person who doesn't bind is 6 MASS.
So the total storage is 60*60*24/45*6/0.499 = 23086TB = 23PB.
Eventhough the 0.499 MASS is for person who binded,(Impossible,Actually,wepool doesn't support binding.),
The total storage should be 60*60*24/45*26/0.499 = 100 PB.
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@MASSMINER

I think it's time you came clean about this coin.

This is supposed to be a coin for all miners, yet one guy claims he was earning 25-30 coins a day with 8TB, yet with 1TB i cannot mine any coins (wallet) and with 4TB on wepool i am getting approx 1 - 2 coins a day.
Now you are saying that 1TB isn't enough to mine anything, and that the net capacity is over 100PB ! So how is this a coin for everyone?

It is clearly yet another POC coin designed for huge server farms.....also for the capacity to be so large so quickly, when there isnt even a place to trade the coins yet, so they are worthless, that must mean someone has a mucjh faster plotter out there.
I wanted to believe this coin was different, but seems it is a simple scam like all other POC coins......

please if i am wrong explain to all of us...
Why havent you released a stand alone plotter yet? How come the mining process still isnt very transparent?

Also, who is buying and selling these coins?
One 8TB drive in the USA costs $200, so even if the coins were $0.5 it would take 400 coins to break even @ 2-4 coins a day that is 100-200 days, and thats before you add other hardware, power costs....oh, and thats IF the coins were $0.5 each, which is very unlikely.......luck to get $0.05 per coin, so that means 1000+ days to break even.....completely pointless.

Would love to know from amyone where these coins can be traded.

Thanks


Strongly agree. The project is not transparent.
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April 17, 2020, 03:48:28 PM
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Good evening guys! When you will add your coin on exchange?
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April 21, 2020, 07:24:39 AM
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Hi all, are there any contests planned in the future? Where can I find anything on this subject?
So far, there is no information, but perhaps in the future they will decide to hold a bounty company, because the platform anyway, as it needs to be advertised.
So far, I have seen that the masses have run their bounty program, do you not know about the bounty program they are currently running?
you can see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5237394.0 iluti what you want to follow, there are several sections of the campaign, happy joining friends, hopefully what you want according to your expectations

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So far, I have seen that the masses have run their bounty program, do you not know about the bounty program they are currently running?
you can see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5237394.0 iluti what you want to follow, there are several sections of the campaign, happy joining friends, hopefully what you want according to your expectations
I think newcomers in any case join the bounty, you can earn a lot of coins.
Yes of course if they are interested to follow it, of course they can get a lot of coins for free, and remember the bad thing that is often done by bounty participants is to throw their tokens carelessly, it's best to avoid things like that we we we have got our payment according to work what we do, monitor the project first if the mass project has the potential in the future, as well as saving it for longer, saving can make us double the benefit, hopefully  Smiley

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Hi, are newcomers accepted to the bounty company? I want to participate, can I carry your signature?
You need to grow up a little to the rank of Jr. Member, then you will be able to participate in most bounty companies. Grin Grin
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April 22, 2020, 10:49:36 AM
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It is clear that the project is well developed technically, explain to the novice what latest technologies MASS contains. What developments are planned in the future?
Look at their plans displayed here. https://massnet.org/en/develop
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Are there some news about mining this coin or has anybody already left the (mining) building?

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April 24, 2020, 04:11:05 PM
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Obviously that your PoC tech looks fine. But I don't understand who organised this company. Can I get an answer please
hey there, MASScore  is in charge of coding, Dr. Renling from MIT is our chief sicientist. What can i do for you.
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What about mining? Does mining MASS take up system resources? How much?
As they claim, only a few kilobytes of your resources, but is it true?
Plotting actually need to take cpu and bandwidth, but once plotting finished, it would only need to scan the hash in the hard drive for every block. And internet still would be needed.
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I would also like to get profit by doing POS mining. Do you have instructions?
Study their white paper, there is a lot of information. POS mining is very easy. Cheesy
To clearfy that mass is based on PoC, not POS, all coin is from block reward. There are binding miner and stakcing miner.
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Hello, people. Help the newcomer, I'm completely confused. Do you have instructions on how to create your own wallet?
Detailed instructions here. https://docs.massnet.org/en/getting-started/how-to-create-a-wallet
Made especially for beginners Grin
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Yes of course if they are interested to follow it, of course they can get a lot of coins for free, and remember the bad thing that is often done by bounty participants is to throw their tokens carelessly, it's best to avoid things like that we we we have got our payment according to work what we do, monitor the project first if the mass project has the potential in the future, as well as saving it for longer, saving can make us double the benefit, hopefully  Smiley
Many bounty participants sell the received coins on the first day, this is not quite the correct action.
what do you mean, can MASS be traded on the exchange so that participants can sell their coins, please provide detailed information because I want to review exchanges and want to trade, I don't know any information that mass coins can be traded, that's because I want to monitor it, I have missed a lot of information from the mass project

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Yes of course if they are interested to follow it, of course they can get a lot of coins for free, and remember the bad thing that is often done by bounty participants is to throw their tokens carelessly, it's best to avoid things like that we we we have got our payment according to work what we do, monitor the project first if the mass project has the potential in the future, as well as saving it for longer, saving can make us double the benefit, hopefully  Smiley
Many bounty participants sell the received coins on the first day, this is not quite the correct action.
what do you mean, can MASS be traded on the exchange so that participants can sell their coins, please provide detailed information because I want to review exchanges and want to trade, I don't know any information that mass coins can be traded, that's because I want to monitor it, I have missed a lot of information from the mass project
mass has been listed on 4 exchanges
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we have post on official twitter and telegram group immediately when we were noted mass would be listed on exchanges.
Right now, it has been listed on mxc, bkex, hotbit, and hoo.
Of all these exchanges, hotbit looks decent, the other exchanges are extremely weak. Kiss
Hard choice, but Yes, the Hotbit exchange has good daily trading volumes Cheesy
according to cmc adjusted volume, mxc and bkex is better than hotbit, but who knows:)
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Yes of course if they are interested to follow it, of course they can get a lot of coins for free, and remember the bad thing that is often done by bounty participants is to throw their tokens carelessly, it's best to avoid things like that we we we have got our payment according to work what we do, monitor the project first if the mass project has the potential in the future, as well as saving it for longer, saving can make us double the benefit, hopefully  Smiley
Many bounty participants sell the received coins on the first day, this is not quite the correct action.
what do you mean, can MASS be traded on the exchange so that participants can sell their coins, please provide detailed information because I want to review exchanges and want to trade, I don't know any information that mass coins can be traded, that's because I want to monitor it, I have missed a lot of information from the mass project
mass has been listed on 4 exchanges
please give details sir I want to see it in the four exchanges you mentioned I have missed a lot of information from the MASS project, I want to see MASS coin trading volumes, if I see a good volume, of course I also want to save coins and make an inventory tool I, even though not with big capital, at least I showed myself as a supporter of the MASS project

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April 27, 2020, 08:22:18 AM
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Yes of course if they are interested to follow it, of course they can get a lot of coins for free, and remember the bad thing that is often done by bounty participants is to throw their tokens carelessly, it's best to avoid things like that we we we have got our payment according to work what we do, monitor the project first if the mass project has the potential in the future, as well as saving it for longer, saving can make us double the benefit, hopefully  Smiley
Many bounty participants sell the received coins on the first day, this is not quite the correct action.
what do you mean, can MASS be traded on the exchange so that participants can sell their coins, please provide detailed information because I want to review exchanges and want to trade, I don't know any information that mass coins can be traded, that's because I want to monitor it, I have missed a lot of information from the mass project
mass has been listed on 4 exchanges
please give details sir I want to see it in the four exchanges you mentioned I have missed a lot of information from the MASS project, I want to see MASS coin trading volumes, if I see a good volume, of course I also want to save coins and make an inventory tool I, even though not with big capital, at least I showed myself as a supporter of the MASS project
you can check on coingecko, we have applied for cmc, will be there soon.
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April 28, 2020, 02:59:51 PM
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Where can I learn more about POC mining? How does the network support work?
You can study their white paper, there is a lot of information about PoC mining. Or just use Google. Grin
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May 01, 2020, 08:16:56 AM
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I heard somewhere that mass will be trading on hotbit, very soon.
They only applied for a listing, because it is possible that this application may be rejected. Angry
Usually, applications for listing coins are considered within 2-3 weeks. Do you have any information about when the applications were submitted?
that's very strange, mass has been listed on hotbit for almost 2 weeks, coreteam didnt applied for listing, hotbit did it by themselves.
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I'll tell you a secret, very soon the hotbit exchange will break out in the top 10. They develop very quickly.
Please provide a direct link to the auction. What pairs does MASS trade with?
There must be some mistake. There are no MASS coins on Hotbit.
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What are your strengths? And how to run a Mainnet wallet node
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Excuse me, but I am interested in one question: is the project running on ICO or IEO right now?
The token is already on the exchanges, I do not see the need to conduct an ICO.
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What do I need to start mining? I want to earn as much MASS as possible.
You only need a hard drive on our computer to start mining, no ASIC, no expensive graphics card. Mining is available to everyone.
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Do you have instructions for PoC mining for beginners? Huh
Bro study their white paper, you'll be surprised how much information there is. https://download.massnet.org/research/MASS-A%20Blockchain%20Consensus%20Engine.pdf

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PoC mining looks attractive, but in my opinion POS mining is even easier.
When generating new coins by the PoC method, the algorithm uses free space on the hard disk of the computer. This principle has no analogues in the market and allows us to add more MASS coin mining miners, thanks to which the MASS crypto currency network is maximally decentralized. Cool
You only need to take a few minutes of your time to make your computer earn money.

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Whats this Proof of Capacity PoC consensus algorithm? We already have PoW then why we need new consensus algorithm. Do we actually need new consensus algorithm?


MASS uses Proof of Capacity PoC. When generating new coins by the PoC method, the algorithm uses free space on the hard disk of the computer. This principle has no analogues in the market and allows us to add more MASS coin mining miners, thanks to which the MASS crypto currency network is maximally decentralized. Another plus of this type of mining is low power consumption.


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https://www.hotbit.io/exchange?symbol=MASS_BTC. the current price is 0.00006663, or $0.$0.6530 a coin.

I would like to sell 10 coins for 0.0006 BTC approx $5.87
Will save someone a little bit of exchange commision....
Please PM me if serious.

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The coin is just enlisted at two popular exchange MXC and HOTBIT and has taken value of 0.66 $ that's a huge price for new coin.

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Another milestone for MASS, its on coinmarketcap also https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/massnet/ . Way more to go MASS.
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Its good to see MASS coming up with great value after its enlistment at 2 different exchanges. The PoC consensus algo is fair and provides equal opportunity to all miners. Those who mined it in early days are the winners and I dont think it's late to grab MASS either via mining or through exchange.

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May 23, 2020, 09:12:33 AM
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This is a great initiative to make mining decentralized once again. PoC is a great consensus algorithm where miners only stake there storage space for securing the network. PoC is used by many coins apart from MASS, which shows the robustness of this consensus algorithm. The journey just started, I am sure the coins will do good in future too. 

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May 24, 2020, 05:50:50 PM
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For the ones who are mining this coin

Which way are you using to mine? The own wallet or Wepool?

It's a little confusing for me, I'm using Wepool and only added 250Gb of Space, and there's that "cloud mining" option too

Is it reliable to use this service? I'm always skeptical about new projects and I'm trying to understand first

Thanks

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May 25, 2020, 03:49:09 AM
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For the ones who are mining this coin

Which way are you using to mine? The own wallet or Wepool?

It's a little confusing for me, I'm using Wepool and only added 250Gb of Space, and there's that "cloud mining" option too

Is it reliable to use this service? I'm always skeptical about new projects and I'm trying to understand first

Thanks

The coin is already on following two exchanges. So its perfectly a legitimate project. You can join there Telegram group to learn who is mining this and what profits they are getting. I am not in mining but buying it at exchnage.

https://www.mxc.com/trade/easy#MASS_USDT
https://www.hotbit.io/exchange?symbol=MASS_BTC
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May 25, 2020, 03:55:36 AM
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For the ones who are mining this coin

Which way are you using to mine? The own wallet or Wepool?

It's a little confusing for me, I'm using Wepool and only added 250Gb of Space, and there's that "cloud mining" option too

Is it reliable to use this service? I'm always skeptical about new projects and I'm trying to understand first

Thanks

This is 100% real coin not a fake one. you can check there site to know more about wts the reward against storage capacity.
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May 31, 2020, 06:31:25 AM
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I think its now better to buy this coin on exchange. As complexity to mine this token has increased, after it got big hit on HITBIT and MXC exchange. There are many miners behind this token and they already have already availed the opportunity to mine this token when its complexity was low.   

I suggest trying mining at this pool https://masscafe.cn/ . There are many who are mining MASS here. You can get more info about that on MASS telegram channel https://t.me/massnetorg
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I think its now better to buy this coin on exchange. As complexity to mine this token has increased, after it got big hit on HITBIT and MXC exchange. There are many miners behind this token and they already have already availed the opportunity to mine this token when its complexity was low.   

I suggest trying mining at this pool https://masscafe.cn/ . There are many who are mining MASS here. You can get more info about that on MASS telegram channel https://t.me/massnetorg

What's the exact relation of Mass with Masscafe?
Is it the official pool of the coin?

I'm mining with them, but that M-cloud that offers mining in the cloud, without any prove that they are really mining, and now they have a Promotion Ambassadors where you can gain a percentage of the ammount your invited friends purchase...
That's not a good indicator for me

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Hi, Im running the windows mining client and have set 100gb but its using my main HDD. How do I use my secondary HDD please? I cant seem to find any way to make changes through the wallet/miner. Thanks.
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Hi, Im running the windows mining client and have set 100gb but its using my main HDD. How do I use my secondary HDD please? I cant seem to find any way to make changes through the wallet/miner. Thanks.

Are you using the Wepool miner?
If yes, you have a button to Add or Modify, you just have to click on Add, choose the path of your HDD and put on many GBs you want to plot

Here you can find more info and the tutorial: https://masscafe.cn/wepool/doc




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June 07, 2020, 06:57:59 AM
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Hi, Im running the windows mining client and have set 100gb but its using my main HDD. How do I use my secondary HDD please? I cant seem to find any way to make changes through the wallet/miner. Thanks.

TBH not worth mining anymore... solomining forget it, and pool mining getting less than 0.1MASS per TB (was 0.6 MASS / TB few days ago)
That because 0.5 is the block reward with binding, 0.1 is the reward without binding. thanks
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0.07/Tb Bad Mining to miner???

Good Mining to Cloud

retrun 50-50% for unbanding & banding
is good job for miner
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June 17, 2020, 06:08:51 AM
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0.07/Tb Bad Mining to miner???

Good Mining to Cloud

retrun 50-50% for unbanding & banding
is good job for miner

I really don't get what you mean but I think you are referring that its good to mine this on cloud? Are you mining this on Wepool or at your own farm?

Yes i am mining in wepool
Dont Work mining in wepool for miner
0.07/Tb for mining hardware
Good mining for Clund  mining
0.3/Tb for Cloud mining
More than it really is 0.3/Tb>>>1.8/Tb/day
https://www.img.in.th/images/78b2c9319782d01bc0cd9145233cca82.jpg

No fair for mining hardware
Should be adjusted to be equal 50-50% Cloud&Mining Hardware
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June 27, 2020, 04:21:40 PM
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So far the coin is doing good on exchange despite bearish altcoin season. Can someone guide we wts the reward to storage ratio? Like how much MASS I will get if I stake 5TB of my storage.

You may join their telegram group to find more details about mining this coin. There is lots of discussions going on regarding mining reward on the telegram group.
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July 02, 2020, 04:35:04 PM
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Do you have guys any recommended mining pool that offer low fees but stable reward? I just want to setup my 7TB HDD to mine this coin, I hope it's not too late and my 7TB HDD is profitable.
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Do you have guys any recommended mining pool that offer low fees but stable reward? I just want to setup my 7TB HDD to mine this coin, I hope it's not too late and my 7TB HDD is profitable.

Try this MASS mining pool https://masscafe.cn/
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Do you have guys any recommended mining pool that offer low fees but stable reward? I just want to setup my 7TB HDD to mine this coin, I hope it's not too late and my 7TB HDD is profitable.

Try this MASS mining pool https://masscafe.cn/

Thanks, I hope HDD mining will bring profit, If i see that this is good and might be profitable in the future definitely i will add more terabytes to mine MASS, good luck to us!
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Do you have guys any recommended mining pool that offer low fees but stable reward? I just want to setup my 7TB HDD to mine this coin, I hope it's not too late and my 7TB HDD is profitable.

Try this MASS mining pool https://masscafe.cn/

Thanks, I hope HDD mining will bring profit, If i see that this is good and might be profitable in the future definitely i will add more terabytes to mine MASS, good luck to us!

Good Luck. Please do share your experience of working with https://masscafe.cn/ here. So that others may also be benefitted. That's how we develop a community, where everyone helps the community members.
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There is breaking new in MASS Project

We propose that MASS Net undergoes a hard fork and upgrade at the block height of 694,000. Below are detailed notes for the most recent update to MASS Net:   Source

Those who missed the early party, its right time to join the party.
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MASS overview in Russian


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Thanks dude, I think i need to explore more and learn more on how to be better to mine and earn MASS, I hope the price soon climb in a good spot, I will start a little and watch for the price goes high.

Buy now if you really wanna get benefited with this coin. Price is down these days and thats the ideal time to invest in any coin. Not many of us avail the opportunity when coins are at there bottom.

I tried several days but seems that mining this coin is not fair enough to get profit or to get good amount of coin, yeah you are right buying this coin is the best option for now and wait for the ath and sure win for the profit.
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I have got a couple of spare external hard drive would it be possible to mine MASS using those hard drives? If yes, can some please tell me how can I mine using my external HDD?
Thank you
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Is there some mining profitability calculator for this?

I don't think there is any such calculator but you can get idea of how much tokens you will get against amount of HDD you bring in there Telegram group. There admin at telegram is very active.
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My 4TB HDD needs approx 7 days to fill and 1) the chain isn't updating while plotting and 2) I'm mining nothing while it plots, despite many 2GiB chunks say they're mining.

I guess this coin already has become unprofitable for solo? What a shame, it isn't even listed on big exchanges.
Following this thread, seems that even pool mining is bad nowadays (plus, I won't provide my phone number for pool mining Angry )

Might aswell look into STORJ with my capacity, but there you'll need good internet bandwith
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I have an issue with the miner apps, It never detect by windows as severe virus, but when I tried to install it, there's a popup shows that the apps is not aithorize to install even I run it as an administrator.



Do you have any solution for this?

Thanks
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I have an issue with the miner apps, It never detect by windows as severe virus, but when I tried to install it, there's a popup shows that the apps is not aithorize to install even I run it as an administrator.

https://i.postimg.cc/Z5KYZdfm/mass-miner.png

Do you have any solution for this?

Thanks

You can post this query on there Telegram group. There are many MASS miners there and you can surely find solution there. You can join there telegram at t.me/massnetorg.
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I have an issue with the miner apps, It never detect by windows as severe virus, but when I tried to install it, there's a popup shows that the apps is not aithorize to install even I run it as an administrator.



Do you have any solution for this?

Thanks

You can post this query on there Telegram group. There are many MASS miners there and you can surely find solution there. You can join there telegram at t.me/massnetorg.

I just thought that there are people here who are mining this coin right now, that's why the team is creating this topic is just to aware everyone and also to give some answers, why you send us in telegram and other 3rd party platform? It's better to give your answer here because we are using Bitcointalk so we don't need to bring every inquiries in other 3rd party platform.

just saying.
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I have an issue with the miner apps, It never detect by windows as severe virus, but when I tried to install it, there's a popup shows that the apps is not aithorize to install even I run it as an administrator.

https://i.postimg.cc/Z5KYZdfm/mass-miner.png

Do you have any solution for this?

Thanks

You can post this query on there Telegram group. There are many MASS miners there and you can surely find solution there. You can join there telegram at t.me/massnetorg.

I just thought that there are people here who are mining this coin right now, that's why the team is creating this topic is just to aware everyone and also to give some answers, why you send us in telegram and other 3rd party platform? It's better to give your answer here because we are using Bitcointalk so we don't need to bring every inquiries in other 3rd party platform.

just saying.

I would love to answer if i know the solution of this problem. I am not mining MASS rather I am investing in MASS. Of course there are miners here too but you have to wait for them to come and answer. On TG one can get immediate response thats why I was just suggesting that, rest is your choice.
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I have an issue with the miner apps, It never detect by windows as severe virus, but when I tried to install it, there's a popup shows that the apps is not aithorize to install even I run it as an administrator.


Do you have any solution for this?

Thanks

You can post this query on there Telegram group. There are many MASS miners there and you can surely find solution there. You can join there telegram at t.me/massnetorg.

I just thought that there are people here who are mining this coin right now, that's why the team is creating this topic is just to aware everyone and also to give some answers, why you send us in telegram and other 3rd party platform? It's better to give your answer here because we are using Bitcointalk so we don't need to bring every inquiries in other 3rd party platform.

just saying.

This problem is due to the fact that Windows can't verify the publisher certificate. I tried adding it manually to trusted certificates but it didn't work. In addition, according to the information in the certificate itself, it was revoked by the publisher (massnet.org), its validity expired on 14.06.2020.

Upd. In the new version of the miner 2.0, the certificate is updated, valid until August 2021, but it is also revoked by the certificate authority that issued it.

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You can only hear good things about MASS on every platform. One has to give full marks to dev team of this project they have performed exceptionally good in taking MASS to mainstream adoption. Not many altcoins have achieved what MASS has in very short span of time.

Can't confirm that unfortunately. At least the windows miner is incredibly buggy and slow.

Buggy:
- Try to plot a drive with more than 1TB. It will hang/freeze. Tried on a recent Ryzen CPU with 32GB RAM, EDIT: and on another PC with 8th Gen Intel, > 24h.
- If you manage to start plotting < 1TB space, your already plotted 2GB chunks "mine" according to their status, but nothing comes to your wallet. Tried 3 days with increasing chunks.
- You can't "delete" chunks or stop the plotting process and start in a new directory / drive unless you delete the config folder somewhere in AppData.

Slow:
- Plotting the drive is slow af. I'd need a whole week to fill 4TB.


Additionally, I heard mining is not even profitable anymore, even with a fair amount of TB. Maybe few cents in a month.
AFAIK, there are other PoC coins which look more interesting, for me at least.

I don't want to take a cr*p on MASS here, the concept is not bad. However, I wasted time on this project and if you don't like what I've described, you might not.
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I have an issue with the miner apps, It never detect by windows as severe virus, but when I tried to install it, there's a popup shows that the apps is not aithorize to install even I run it as an administrator.

Do you have any solution for this?

Thanks

You can post this query on there Telegram group. There are many MASS miners there and you can surely find solution there. You can join there telegram at t.me/massnetorg.

In the telegram channel, everyone is busy with airdrop issues and other issues that are not related to the technical part of the MASS.

You can only hear good things about MASS on every platform. One has to give full marks to dev team of this project they have performed exceptionally good in taking MASS to mainstream adoption. Not many altcoins have achieved what MASS has in very short span of time.

Can't confirm that unfortunately. At least the windows miner is incredibly buggy and slow.


Which version of miners (v1 or v2) do you use and when did you install it? Did the above issue occur with the publisher's certificate?

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Which version of miners (v1 or v2) do you use and when did you install it? Did the above issue occur with the publisher's certificate?

Version 2, just about a month ago. I used it in a disposable environment (aka: I planned to wipe the windows installation anyway, so I tried MASS before it),
so I didn't have program execution problems, because I just didn't care about security and had all checks disabled in the environment in the first place..

AFAIK, there are other PoC coins which look more interesting, for me at least.
Will you give some examples please?

Sorry, my mistake. I didn't mean PoC specifically (like Burstcoin), but mining with hard drive.  Examples are DENET, StorJ and Filecoin.

But I don't know if they're sh!tcoins, so do your own research. For example, I think StorJ is already not profitable anymore, like MASS.

I for my part am curious about the DENET launch this month.
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I for my part am curious about the DENET launch this month.

Ok. Thank you! But this coin is not listed on any exchange... Do you know anything about their plans to list this coin?

It is listed on exchanges

https://www.mxc.com/trade/easy#MASS_USDT

https://www.hotbit.io/exchange?symbol=MASS_USDT
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Thank you but I speak about DENET Smiley

It is planned to be placed on Uniswap and 1inch.exchange from October 30 to November 15. Denet.pro you're talking about this project, right?

Version 2, just about a month ago. I used it in a disposable environment (aka: I planned to wipe the windows installation anyway, so I tried MASS before it),
so I didn't have program execution problems, because I just didn't care about security and had all checks disabled in the environment in the first place..


Sandbox, I didn't think of that. But for the sake of experiment, there is no desire to launch a VM.

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Thank you but I speak about DENET Smiley

It is planned to be placed on Uniswap and 1inch.exchange from October 30 to November 15. Denet.pro you're talking about this project, right?

Yes, it is. Thank you.
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I will give it a chance if this token has a big chance later, but I better analyze it first to make sure this project group.

Its recommended to DYOR before you invest in any coin. AFAIK, MASS consensus engine i.e. PoC is one of the main reason why its so successful till date. Not many coins have seen price of 0.7$ in there first month of launch.

Take your time but make sure you don't consume so much time so that it becomes too late. When MASS was in it early days and it was able to mine MASS using less storage capacity, at that time people were thinking whether to mine this coin or not. Today its on exchnage with value of 0.3$
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Which version of miners (v1 or v2) do you use and when did you install it? Did the above issue occur with the publisher's certificate?

Version 2, just about a month ago. I used it in a disposable environment (aka: I planned to wipe the windows installation anyway, so I tried MASS before it),
so I didn't have program execution problems, because I just didn't care about security and had all checks disabled in the environment in the first place..

AFAIK, there are other PoC coins which look more interesting, for me at least.
Will you give some examples please?

Sorry, my mistake. I didn't mean PoC specifically (like Burstcoin), but mining with hard drive.  Examples are DENET, StorJ and Filecoin.

But I don't know if they're sh!tcoins, so do your own research. For example, I think StorJ is already not profitable anymore, like MASS.

I for my part am curious about the DENET launch this month.

Have you mined MASS? Can you please share guide of how to setup MASS miner on my computer. I am trying to mine MASS.
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I have a small data center where most of storage goes useless. Can someone guide me how to use that free space to mine MASS or any other profitable crypto? will be grateful for the favour.
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