[WARNING] Sol Noctis Bull Coin Keys Compromised / Scam

[transvestite lamb]

Hi snarfbag,

Lesbian Cow on my mobile account (view trust of this account to confirm)  If you bought this coin from me I would like to buy it back for whatever you paid me plus shipping costs to me. If you did not buy it from me I still want to buy it from you as I want to get to the bottom of this situation.  Please pm me on this account if you will sell it to me.

Cheers.  

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[andulolika]

I really loved the look of these coins, I hope the holo doesn't mean too much after someone get's to this.

[OgNasty]

I wonder if the maker purposely sweeps any overages sent to their coin’s addresses in order to keep the denomination value accurate. That would be disturbing on a few levels, but maybe it’s in the fine print somewhere. Has anyone else ever tried adding BTC to theirs? Any attempt at getting an answer from the maker?

[BitcoinPenny]

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Do you know with 100% CERTAINTY that your friend didn't sweep / replace the original .001 funds? Did anyone other than your friend have access to the peeled coin and its private key? (I'm simply trying to play the devil's advocate before we jump to the most obvious conclusion.)

Regards,
Chris

[snarfbag]

Hi snarfbag,

Lesbian Cow on my mobile account (view trust of this account to confirm)  If you bought this coin from me I would like to buy it back for whatever you paid me plus shipping costs to me. If you did not buy it from me I still want to buy it from you as I want to get to the bottom of this situation.  Please pm me on this account if you will sell it to me.

Cheers.  

I bought 3 Bull coins total from two different sellers so I can't say for certain who sold me this particular one. I'm fine with selling it back; funds will go towards a replacement coin type for the original giftee. In the meantime, I'll take some more photos / videos of it to document its state.

I can also post the private key here for my peeled Bull coin. I'll be curious to see if anyone can sweep it. If you can, great, please keep it and post here how it was done:

public key: 13NgxJBSk2bwWd2W4cr4XQqNNQTmyoCM4a
private key under hologram: EdLEZieDbChBMHJp858568iYuhcKWQNBWbBKeQMuckc9

I kept the hologram so I can take a picture of the key as well if needed.

[snarfbag]

1Lh975rtt1RwDJ1SHGX8mn1iHwe7kaVfMQ

Do you know with 100% CERTAINTY that your friend didn't sweep / replace the original .001 funds? Did anyone other than your friend have access to the peeled coin and its private key? (I'm simply trying to play the devil's advocate before we jump to the most obvious conclusion.)

Regards,
Chris

The coin is in my possession. Please see the photos I posted earlier; they are likely on part 1 of this now 2 part thread. The coin was sitting in a drawer since Christmas and the hologram is intact.

[Sat0shisGhost]

Here's the transactions.


This is weird af. I'm pretty sure it means the maker retained the private keys and somehow thought nobody would notice...

I trust OP and his photo looks legit. The only way that photo was faked is if he post-dated it with today's date, peeled it in February, and then waited until today to release the photo which would be a lot of effort to go through for nothing to gain  

Someone else shared a sol noctis private key with me and it's 44 digits which isn't a private key format I'm familiar with. I tried a few things (no, it's not 2 mini keys) and it's not missing a bunch of trailing zeroes.

I'm leaning towards this is a scam. But it's weird because the coin is real silver.

[snarfbag]

Someone else shared a sol noctis private key with me and it's 44 digits which isn't a private key format I'm familiar with. I tried a few things (no, it's not 2 mini keys) and it's not missing a bunch of trailing zeroes.

I posted my Bull coin private key above. It's garbage.

[Sat0shisGhost]

Lesbian Cow on my mobile account (view trust of this account to confirm)  If you bought this coin from me I would like to buy it back for whatever you paid me plus shipping costs to me. If you did not buy it from me I still want to buy it from you as I want to get to the bottom of this situation.  Please pm me on this account if you will sell it to me.

I bid 0.0001 btc more than transvestite lamb because I collect scam memorabilia.

[andulolika]

I'm leaning towards this is a scam. But it's weird because the coin is real silver.

Looking at the price you can get quite a bunch of silver for the price of a single one of these, and any worthy scam would surely use true silver to keep going for longer.

[wheelz1200]

Maybe sol noctis doesnt realized things can be verified on the chain 

Disappointingly watching 

[teeGUMES]

My first thoughts was that someone had a script running to sweep anything over the load amount and if swept by said script, reload with proper face value. This would be for if somebody fucked up and overloaded a coin while manufacturing.. but the fact that this "script" is still possibly running and private keys not destroyed is alarming.

[anonymousminer]

My first thoughts was that someone had a script running to sweep anything over the load amount and if swept by said script, reload with proper face value. This would be for if somebody fucked up and overloaded a coin while manufacturing.. but the fact that this "script" is still possibly running and private keys not destroyed is alarming.

Makes sense.  These were some of my favorite coins.... so sad!

[TheNewAnon135246]

My first thoughts was that someone had a script running to sweep anything over the load amount and if swept by said script, reload with proper face value. This would be for if somebody fucked up and overloaded a coin while manufacturing.. but the fact that this "script" is still possibly running and private keys not destroyed is alarming.

According to TWC no private keys are stored:

A private key, which is needed to redeem the face value, is located under the coin’s protective holographic layer. It is automatically printed and is not stored by the manufacturing company, which means only the owner of the Sol Noctis coin has access to it and thus can realize the face value of the coin at any time.

I think it would be best to contact them directly and ask for clarification.

[krogothmanhattan]

This is really a shame. I emailed them at info@topworldcoins.com
And linked this thread. Will see what they respond with.

[2stout]

I sent 0.001 BTC to my own 2019 Sol Noctis Binary Bull to see if behavior snarfbag encountered is replicated.  TX ID- 8cc1f8138c9234cfa76c9481ed6f76ba70d3f0978e9a47ca20c6e5b4f98e697d

[ZipReg]

Man that is some BULL, I hope this isn't true somehow.

[owlcatz]

Man that is some BULL, I hope this isn't true somehow.

Yeah for some reason I am not convinced it's the eagles... or the bulls (yet) for that matter. Time will tell.

[anonymousminer]

Man that is some BULL, I hope this isn't true somehow.

Yeah for some reason I am not convinced it's the eagles... or the bulls (yet) for that matter. Time will tell.

The bulls certainly have an issue.... nobody has been able to sweep one.  The private key is some 44 character garbage.

[2stout]

Man that is some BULL, I hope this isn't true somehow.

Yeah for some reason I am not convinced it's the eagles... or the bulls (yet) for that matter. Time will tell.

The bulls certainly have an issue.... nobody has been able to sweep one.  The private key is some 44 character garbage.

Doesn't a 44 character private key correspond to a private key Base64?