Toilet paper hoarding

[tvbcof]

Can't relate that much since here in PH locals don't seem to use TP, especially in provinces-side or even in urban, it just...

PH is where I first discovered this trick.  It actually shouldn't have been that difficult to figure out, but some things just don't occur to people consumed with 'first world problems.'

Actually to be fair, my first experience with this technology was many years ago in Japan where they have incredibly complex butthole cleaning technology (with dryers, perfume sprayers, etc.)  It still never occurred to me that the same basic effect could be achieved with nothing more than a water dipper until I spent some time in The Philippines.

It actually makes a lot more sense in practice to wash one's butthole than to smear shit all over with toilet paper

Well, yeah.

Just prepared canned goods, stocks, good for at least 3 weeks.

I suggest a 50 kg bag of rice and a big bag of charcoal so that well water or ditch water can be consumed with some modicum of safety.  I would expect power, water, and internet to go down in most cities.  Cell phone too perhaps.  I would also expect most of the local security in gated communities to disappear.  Maybe they'll show up again to guide the first enterprising looters to the most promising houses.  Hopefully in the gated communities enough people have enough firearms to form their own effective security details.

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[Spendulus]

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WHY hoard toilet paper? It's from Canada. I can't imagine there would be actual shortages of trucks bringing it into the US.

On the other hand, there are a great many things from China that may be in short supply.

Bringing what?  There are already shortages in some stores in Canada.

Wait when schools are closed and people will be asked to 'work' from home.  Canadians will be buying everything.
There will be nothing to ship when factories close in Canada and farms are under quarantine in Mexico.

Fuck, I never thought I would have to live through this 'end of the world' scenario.

We need a vaccine or this thing will go south fast.

I do not think the foresting industries in Canada will shut down. They can operate with all people staying a few meters apart, and driving cars and trucks to the worksites. Same with farming.

[squatz1]

I hate buying shit, so I always get a costco sized case of toilet paper. It lasts me the better part of the year.

I also have 500 toilet paper tablets, probably enough for 6 months for me. I didn't buy any because of the coronavirus. Just happened to have it that's all.


I honestly don't get the panic over it. There's an infinite amount of things you could wipe with, when I was a kid, we used certain kinds of leaves when we were out and really had to go. (Obviously it was outside the US).

I hear people used to use newspaper a long long time ago. That seems like it'd be awful and leave ink behind. Also I doubt newspaper flushes well. If you choose to use stuff that doesn't flush you can keep a little trashcan in the bathroom with a supermarket plastic bag.

While this does sound very nice, I'm also assuming that you live somewhere where this is possible. Going to need a GOOD deal of space to be buying in bulk like that. Wouldn't be possible in someplace like Manhatten (or any big city with too high of property costs tbh)

Kinda wish I stocked up on a ton of stuff at this point. But a bidet works too

[Cnut237]

I suspect there will be some fundamental changes to the way we conduct business, travel, everyday activities after this
'test' is over.

 'Sterilization chambers' before you board planes, anyone?

I agree. There will definitely be changes after this. There have to be. Imagine something that combines the death rate of say MERS or SARS with the transmissibility of this coronavirus.

Sterilisation chambers for air travel are not so unlikely.

[Artemis3]

Boy, I didn't realize that toilet paper is such a coveted item. Tried to order some this weekend with my grocery store delivery, no dice. Waited to get some today, store shelf empty. Called one store, nope. Called another store, got lucky. However, I only bought one package of 12. The clerk asked me if I wanted more. I hope that I didn't make a crucial error. Although, I am sure cloth rags and frequent showers will work. Or is running water going to be in short supply soon, too? How long, exactly, are people expecting to be holed up? We only have like 33 presumptive cases in the state that I am in at the moment, and I live in a rather large state.(area wise)

Hmm Finally you are feeling what my country felt when in 2014 the government ordered prices to be "regulated" and "controlled" by them (because the market is an imperialist attack, yadda.).

You will probably not have to endure this for two or three years like we did, due to the stubborn politicians (with way too much power) that call themselves socialists. But let me give you an advise, don't stop with Toilet paper, pay attention to all other essentials and stock in advance, anything non perishable that you could not live without. Soap for example. Scarcity comes in waves, first its one item, then its another item, you have to plan ahead.

They might order people to stay at home, so having an ample stock now that you can still go out to buy, could be an asset.

Someone can carry the virus for 11 days (on average) without symptoms, spreading it to others. This is why you must pay serious attention to it, it simply "lags" giving people a false security, act now because by the time it becomes evident, it will be too late.

Just like inflation, it hits just like that. Don't keep all your money in fiat...

[bL4nkcode]

I suggest a 50 kg bag of rice and a big bag of charcoal so that well water or ditch water can be consumed with some modicum of safety.  I would expect power, water, and internet to go down in most cities.  Cell phone too perhaps.  I would also expect most of the local security in gated communities to disappear.  Maybe they'll show up again to guide the first enterprising looters to the most promising houses.  Hopefully in the gated communities enough people have enough firearms to form their own effective security details.

But shutting down of electricity, water and/or internet is far I could imagine but yeah much better if prepared.

I live in a gated subdivision where there is tight security from people entering, considering they have families to go home and to stay with, for sure the gate will leave wide open at least for few days.

Anyways, instead of TP, people here hoard alcohol instead.

[Spendulus]

I suggest a 50 kg bag of rice and a big bag of charcoal so that well water or ditch water can be consumed with some modicum of safety.  I would expect power, water, and internet to go down in most cities.  Cell phone too perhaps.  I would also expect most of the local security in gated communities to disappear.  Maybe they'll show up again to guide the first enterprising looters to the most promising houses.  Hopefully in the gated communities enough people have enough firearms to form their own effective security details.

But shutting down of electricity, water and/or internet is far I could imagine but yeah much better if prepared.

I live in a gated subdivision where there is tight security from people entering, considering they have families to go home and to stay with, for sure the gate will leave wide open at least for few days.

Anyways, instead of TP, people here hoard alcohol instead.

Like city storm sewer systems, gated subdivisions work in two ways,

1) to prevent the influx of negative factors when conditions are normal, within a normal range
2) to accelerate the influx of negative factors when conditions are outside that normal range

[BADecker]

I hear people are selling it on eBay for jacked up prices.     

[Artemis3]

I hear people are selling it on eBay for jacked up prices.     

Here people are doing that with masks and oranges and lemons (yes those fruits since they have vitamin c).

We are already used to live without toilet paper so meh. Soap and water is more important anyway...

[franky1]

wuhan had population of 11m
wuhan only had ~100k infections (under 1%)

of those affected runny poo was only a symptom of 5% of those infected

inshort
in a popular city, only 0.05% of people will need extra toilet roll compared to normal use

..
also over the 2 month period. the infection rate in wuhan is bottoming out,
meaning for one location its not like a year round problem. but something that can pass in a coupe months

individually people get over it usually in a week-1month depending on severity
yep those that got it early january and severe enough to need hospital, recovered and released by february

so in short
CALM THE HELL DOWN

[Spendulus]

wuhan had population of 11m
wuhan only had ~100k infections (under 1%)

of those affected runny poo was only a symptom of 5% of those infected

inshort
in a popular city, only 0.05% of people will need extra toilet roll compared to normal use

..
also over the 2 month period. the infection rate in wuhan is bottoming out,
meaning for one location its not like a year round problem. but something that can pass in a coupe months

individually people get over it usually in a week-1month depending on severity
yep those that got it early january and severe enough to need hospital, recovered and released by february

so in short
CALM THE HELL DOWN

Dude, if we did that....the news media would have nothing to go back to but Biden....

[BADecker]

wuhan had population of 11m
wuhan only had ~100k infections (under 1%)

of those affected runny poo was only a symptom of 5% of those infected

inshort
in a popular city, only 0.05% of people will need extra toilet roll compared to normal use

..
also over the 2 month period. the infection rate in wuhan is bottoming out,
meaning for one location its not like a year round problem. but something that can pass in a coupe months

individually people get over it usually in a week-1month depending on severity
yep those that got it early january and severe enough to need hospital, recovered and released by february

so in short
CALM THE HELL DOWN

Right! In the USA, the paper mills are firing up to manufacture tons more TP. They are working overtime. After the scare is over, people will be all stocked up with TP for a long time. The paper mills will have to lay off people for several months. The laid-off workers will collect unemployment checks from government. Government will have to borrow more money just to pay the unemployment. Since borrowing money is actually creating money rather than borrowing it - Crash of Wall Street Banks and Insurers this Week Blamed on the Coronavirus, but the Real Cause... - the money supply will grow. We will come closer to the big devaluation of cash, and the eventual hyper-inflation.

So, "CALM THE H*** DOWN." All that is happening is destruction of the world money system all on account of toilet paper.

[MysteryMiner]

Guys, did You tried to wash the ass after shitting instead of toilet paper? As a owner of manly, hairy asshole and a fan of spicy food, I will tell that no amount of toilet paper can reduce the burning sensation and shit smear in pubic hairs as good as washing the ass. Also one of my former girlfriends teached what to do to reduce smells and get a dick sucking every time and give no unpleasant sensations to girls while performing the duties.

As a bonus, as a God worshiping terrorist, the clean washed ass is a must. While kneeling before God in prayer, God sees everything trough the clothes. So taking in account God's obsession with hemorrhoids and all things anal (in book of Samuel 5:1), I guess the clean ass pleases God.

[tvbcof]

Guys, did You tried to wash the ass after shitting instead of toilet paper? As a owner of manly, hairy asshole and a fan of spicy food, I will tell that no amount of toilet paper can reduce the burning sensation and shit smear in pubic hairs as good as washing the ass. Also one of my former girlfriends teached what to do to reduce smells and get a dick sucking every time and give no unpleasant sensations to girls while performing the duties.

As a bonus, as a God worshiping terrorist, the clean washed ass is a must. While kneeling before God in prayer, God sees everything trough the clothes. So taking in account God's obsession with hemorrhoids and all things anal (in book of Samuel 5:1), I guess the clean ass pleases God.

Nice to see you again MM!  I trust that you have been busy doing God's work?

[BADecker]

Guys, did You tried to wash the ass after shitting instead of toilet paper? As a owner of manly, hairy asshole and a fan of spicy food, I will tell that no amount of toilet paper can reduce the burning sensation and shit smear in pubic hairs as good as washing the ass. Also one of my former girlfriends teached what to do to reduce smells and get a dick sucking every time and give no unpleasant sensations to girls while performing the duties.

As a bonus, as a God worshiping terrorist, the clean washed ass is a must. While kneeling before God in prayer, God sees everything trough the clothes. So taking in account God's obsession with hemorrhoids and all things anal (in book of Samuel 5:1), I guess the clean ass pleases God.

Nice to see you again MM!  I trust that you have been busy doing God's work?

There are two books of Samuel, and neither of them has anything to do with what MM says.

[tvbcof]

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As a bonus, as a God worshiping terrorist, the clean washed ass is a must. While kneeling before God in prayer, God sees everything trough the clothes. So taking in account God's obsession with hemorrhoids and all things anal (in book of Samuel 5:1), I guess the clean ass pleases God.

Nice to see you again MM!  I trust that you have been busy doing God's work?

There are two books of Samuel, and neither of them has anything to do with what MM says.

I'm hardly a bible scholar, but do have access to the internets.  it does seem like MM has something of a point and that you are somewhat incorrect in your blanket assertion:

  https://www.quotescosmos.com/bible/bible-verses/Hemorrhoids.html

[techbill]

It's a sign that people are scared but don't really know why? They buy things as if a meteor was going to hit the earth and all the stores were going to be closed.

[BADecker]

It's a sign that people are scared but don't really know why? They buy things as if a meteor was going to hit the earth and all the stores were going to be closed.

Good practice for when the financial system goes belly up in the next couple of years or so. Even if the financial gurus have something in place to make the transition work more smoothly, there will still be a lot of people who are going to get hurt. But, the financial leaders don't seem to have a clear alternative. The financial system is going down.

[franky1]

badecker. again try researching before assuming

firstly the toilet roll industry is not even a 1% dent of the whole economy
secondly the next financial crash will relate to the lack of pension funds due to the 'boomer' era that happened after WW2 who are now in retirement age

the inflation over the last half century vs the amount of pension funds put aside vs the sheer number of people reaching retirement age is not healthy numbers for the pension industry.
also the healthcare industry would be more affected than toilet paper industry

however getting back to the topic of toilet paper
there will not be significant impact on unemployment numbers because the industry is small compared to the thousands of other products in retail stores. and toilet rolls are not individually rolled by hand. so even in that industry the number of employees are low

[Jet Cash]

I had quite a long chat with the security guard at a major English supermarket, and he made an interesting comment. He had been talking to a customer who had bought two large trolleys full of loo rolls ( he bought the rolls not the trolleys of course ). The customer explained that he would take the lot to a market and sell them there for a profit. There are always some people who want to exploit a crisis for financial gain.

The supermarket didn't seem to mind, as it is always fully stocked with loo rolls when it opens at 8am, and sold out when it closes at 10pm.