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March 14, 2020, 06:24:00 PM
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No doubt that Bitcoin is a Safe Haven and not what others speculated about it being weakest  during the crash.
The price went down 50% in the last month. This is literally the worst time to say that Bitcoin isn't weak.

It also rose 40% this year and we are just 3 months in. Is an asset that rises 40$ in 3 months and then falls 50% weak? I wouldn't say so.
Shitcoins like XRP or BCH lost more than 300% from their peak values and at the same time Bitcoin is only down 70%.
It's also worth mentioning that the stock market shut down during the crash.. Bitcoin did not and kept falling.

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March 14, 2020, 06:48:35 PM
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I think it would be best to look at the circumstances carefully before concluding anything. We may see bitcoin right now as a coin that is losing its potential on being a safe haven for investors yet if we are going to look back at its history, crisis kept on occuring for bitcoin but still it was able to revive and regain all that it has lost or come back stronger than before. If we are going to be optimistic at bitcoin's current state, we should then consider it still as a safe haven. With the upcoming halving, things might change for the better so it would be best if we would stay tune and stay faithful with our investment on bitcoin.

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March 14, 2020, 07:06:44 PM
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With the upcoming halving, things might change for the better so it would be best if we would stay tune and stay faithful with our investment on bitcoin.

But really, I don't know how come some people have speculated that price will drop before halving and here we are with price down that it has been said as the effect of corona virus. Can we say perhaps that TA has a way of working with sentiment?
Anyways, I'm thinking better days are coming for bitcoin soon as we enter the halving.

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March 14, 2020, 07:40:46 PM
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With the upcoming halving, things might change for the better so it would be best if we would stay tune and stay faithful with our investment on bitcoin.

But really, I don't know how come some people have speculated that price will drop before halving and here we are with price down that it has been said as the effect of corona virus. Can we say perhaps that TA has a way of working with sentiment?
Anyways, I'm thinking better days are coming for bitcoin soon as we enter the halving.

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG...

Everyone already knows about the halving, and any benefit from that is ALREADY priced into the market.

Welcome to the NEW REALITY,  whatever you knew before is OVER.    BitCoin is crashing in an economic crisis.    I just wonder at what price level more people like you will figure it out  Grin Grin Grin

Of course, the dumbest people will be the LAST to figure it out.  Yeah, even a fool can see reality once it punches him in the face 🙉🙉🙉

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March 14, 2020, 08:13:15 PM
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Bitcoin fell some days ago and many were of the opinion that, there's no need to hold the said cryptocurrency because it was not able to stand against the coronavirus epidemy. During the crash, the percentage of the fall was more on Bitcoin than the fiats(stocks), but reasons be that, The US Fed injected into the crashed market $168bn which in percentage is more than the current investment on Bitcoin. Possibly, this was the major reason while the fall was more on Bitcoin.

“It may sound crazy, but I think it takes $700bn to over a $1tn to stabilize the markets. The last few weeks are a prime example of why digital assets, namely Bitcoin, have a place in the global markets.”  Bill Herrmann.

No doubt that Bitcoin is a Safe Haven and not what others speculated about it being weakest  during the crash.

Do you still insist that Bitcoin isn't a Safe Haven?
I am not surprised people still have doubts about the safe haven status of bitcoin, gold has been a safe haven for thousands of years and the dollar has been a safe haven for decades, bitcoin is still too young and the decrease in the price we saw was without a doubt used against bitcoin to challenge that notion, but most likely as the market cap of bitcoin becomes bigger and the governments find no other way to get out of the crisis than to print money the safe haven status of bitcoin will become clearer for everyone to see.

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March 14, 2020, 08:57:00 PM
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I am not surprised people still have doubts about the safe haven status of bitcoin, gold has been a safe haven for thousands of years and the dollar has been a safe haven for decades, bitcoin is still too young and the decrease in the price we saw was without a doubt used against bitcoin to challenge that notion, but most likely as the market cap of bitcoin becomes bigger and the governments find no other way to get out of the crisis than to print money the safe haven status of bitcoin will become clearer for everyone to see.

There are a LOT of possibilities:

1.  People will see the obvious decline, and SELL bitcoin as their stocks go down, as they get layed of from work, and need the money more than ever.

2.  People see the obvious selloff in BitCoin, and the fear feeds on itself, the bubble pops, and the price of BitCoin crashes more than you could ever imagine.

3.   Bitcoin never was a safe haven, only a bubble, and crashes along with stocks, fiat, and every other speculative asset.

ASSUMING that this is going to have a great outcome is a special kind of stupid 🙉🙉🙉

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ASSUMING that this is going to have a great outcome is a special kind of stupid 🙉🙉🙉

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It will always be a great outcome for someone. Unfortunately, not everyone can be a winner. There has to be losers. This is a zero sum game, remember? For every seller there must be a buyer on the other side. So, one of the two will profit in the end.

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March 14, 2020, 09:59:33 PM
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People shouldn't have to keep thinking that Bitcoin is gonna safe at all, that is why it is at high risk because any time of the day you can possibly be loose. We have to accept it, not all the time we think that bitcoin is safe. Just like what happens now, should we have to think like that? Of course, a feeling of a human being should have to prevail and that worries may exist knowing that we can be lost if this trend gets worse.

We don't need to hide anything, it is much better to tell someone what would possibly you will get in investing crypto rather overly thinking that it will generate money all the time.

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March 14, 2020, 10:40:18 PM
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It  could be considered as a safe haven for those who has a ton of wealth. Bitcoin could be good to hedge their wealth in this time of crisis. But for average joe, during this pandemic, perhaps they are selling to have cash to buy and stack up food and water, that's it.

Bitcoin is still in it's infancy, it's never been tested in this kind of situation, but we will have to see, so far with the recent dump, it doesn't look very good. However, people are going to realized it sooner or later, that Bitcoin can be a good leverage, IMHO.

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People shouldn't have to keep thinking that Bitcoin is gonna safe at all, that is why it is at high risk because any time of the day you can possibly be loose. We have to accept it, not all the time we think that bitcoin is safe. Just like what happens now, should we have to think like that? Of course, a feeling of a human being should have to prevail and that worries may exist knowing that we can be lost if this trend gets worse.

We don't need to hide anything, it is much better to tell someone what would possibly you will get in investing crypto rather overly thinking that it will generate money all the time.

FOR THOSE NOT AWARE:    BitCoin had a HUGE advertising campaign trying to sell BitCoin as " Digital Gold ",  a safe haven and better than gold.   That LIE is now totally exposed and debunked.   Of course, there are a bunch of people here that have " faith ", and " beleive ", that are willfully blind   that reject reality until it punches them in the face.

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It  could be considered as a safe haven for those who has a ton of wealth. Bitcoin could be good to hedge their wealth in this time of crisis. But for average joe, during this pandemic, perhaps they are selling to have cash to buy and stack up food and water, that's it.

Bitcoin is still in it's infancy, it's never been tested in this kind of situation, but we will have to see, so far with the recent dump, it doesn't look very good. However, people are going to realized it sooner or later, that Bitcoin can be a good leverage, IMHO.

NO, NO, NO

Even if you are very wealthy, losing MORE THAN HALF of your wealth in BitCoin in a few weeks is NOT, NOT, NOT a safe haven.   That is a disaster, and means you have made very poor investment choices.

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March 15, 2020, 06:34:57 AM
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People just like to see btc as a safe haven, not that this was indicated in the wp.... or maybe I miss that part, but to me, i always thought it too risky to rely on something so volatile as safe heaven, when the market is good, it is possible to earn a lot from btc but not hold your savings on it, because of this type of unforeseen situation that we are currently facing,
Btc is good investment to increase your money and cash out whenever you can, using it as safe heaven is out of the equation for me, at least not now, maybe when there is more stability.

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March 15, 2020, 08:29:29 AM
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In this whole situation, once again, metals came out with the least losses, gold lost about 8%. Bitcoin has lost about 40%, and this is a lot, especially against gold.
Still, cryptocurrencies do not yet have the weight that conservative assets possess.

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March 24, 2020, 09:14:30 PM
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Blind optimism is dangerous, and I don't think it will lead anyone to any good at this point in time. Even though bitcoin prices are tanking every day, I still see the previous prices of $4000 - $5000 as the best entry price for bitcoin, and this is only for those who are brave enough to hold their bags for quite some time. You can still play the "invest and forget" game with bitcoin if you think that it is worth it in the end, or if your wallet allows you to invest and bear the truth of seeing red streaks on graph day by day.

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March 24, 2020, 10:37:20 PM
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Well,  haters are right. This is not the best time to invest in Bitcoin,  since it's rise or call can not be predicted at this pandemic outbreak periods
Why not invest Bitcoin if you have money that you can afford to risk and either to lose. The risk is really high since from the start and we can't deny the fact that many people had suffered losses than those who gain. But this will not even bother the others because those people who lose their money are those people who don't know anything about crypto, they are quitters and panic sellers. Quite possible that they usually end up losing because they doesn't actually what they doing and they just think that investing crypto is giving them profit assurance which is not in a real scenario.
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ASSUMING that this is going to have a great outcome is a special kind of stupid 🙉🙉🙉

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It will always be a great outcome for someone. Unfortunately, not everyone can be a winner. There has to be losers. This is a zero sum game, remember? For every seller there must be a buyer on the other side. So, one of the two will profit in the end.

That should be right because some investors are panicking and they can be a loser if they sold at a loss price. Bitcoin still a good investment only if you believe on it but if not then probably bitcoin is not a safe haven at all. Having a positive mindset and a positive goal with bitcoin is a must, and if you see a cheaper price then its another opportunity for you to buy.

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March 24, 2020, 11:20:10 PM
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In my opinion, the safest shelter is gold under the pillow. Namely, so that it is in your possession, and not in the bank, or in storage with third parties.
Cryptocurrencies suffered too much from the fall, I did not even think that this could happen.

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March 25, 2020, 02:04:37 AM
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I think that almost all investments are safe haven, like when you invest in stocks you can hold your stock to make sure that you get the dividends. In currency investment however, we shouldwait for a time to sell what we are holding and buy back when the price goes low.

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March 25, 2020, 02:37:59 PM
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I think that almost all investments are safe haven, like when you invest in stocks you can hold your stock to make sure that you get the dividends. In currency investment however, we shouldwait for a time to sell what we are holding and buy back when the price goes low.

What a DUMB and IGNORANT statement.   Stocks are going down the fastest in history.  Those that own typical stocks will lose MOST of their wealth in this downturn.

Why would anyone give such bad advice Huh

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March 26, 2020, 12:49:00 PM
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Bitcoin fell some days ago and many were of the opinion that, there's no need to hold the said cryptocurrency because it was not able to stand against the coronavirus epidemy.
Well, Bitcoin's price is based on the sentiments of the investors and its fundamentals so if the investors felt panic because of a pandemic like COVID-19 they will immediately sell their holdings causing the price to go down. There are no asset right now that survived the down. Even the Gold who remained on the rise at the middle of the pandemic went down too days after.

“It may sound crazy, but I think it takes $700bn to over a $1tn to stabilize the markets. The last few weeks are a prime example of why digital assets, namely Bitcoin, have a place in the global markets.”  Bill Herrmann.
We don't know TBH but it can and it cannot. Bitcoin and the crypto market already have a place in the global markets already because it already has a huge market cap but not as huge as the other stock markets out there who has at around a billion to even trillion dollars Cheesy.


No doubt that Bitcoin is a Safe Haven and not what others speculated about it being weakest  during the crash.
They've said that it is the weakest one during the crash but they forgot its main feature which is the volatility. They know already that Bitcoin and crypto market is volatile so it is normal already that it will go down more than the stock market which is less volatile.

Do you still insist that Bitcoin isn't a Safe Haven?
I'm not insisting but at the same time, I'm not agreeing that Bitcoin is a safe haven.

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March 26, 2020, 01:47:59 PM
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I think that almost all investments are safe haven, like when you invest in stocks you can hold your stock to make sure that you get the dividends. In currency investment however, we shouldwait for a time to sell what we are holding and buy back when the price goes low.
Yeah, maybe all of the investments are really a safe haven especially if the thing that you are gonna invest is legit and after a time there is an assurance that you will be able to get or earn your profit of eaiting because of the investments that you have been done. Just like for what you have been said that the investing on stocks is good, yes definitely it is really good because we all know that stocks is more likely here in the cryptocurrency.

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