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March 26, 2020, 04:37:35 PM
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Official indictment press release:

Nicolás Maduro Moros and 14 Current and Former Venezuelan Officials Charged with Narco-Terrorism, Corruption, Drug Trafficking and Other Criminal Charges

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Maduro and Other High Ranking Venezuelan Officials Allegedly Partnered With the FARC to Use Cocaine as a Weapon to “Flood” the United States

Fomer President of Venezuela Nicolás Maduro Moros, Venezuela’s vice president for the economy, Venezuela’s Minister of Defense, and Venezuela’s Chief Supreme Court Justice are among those charged in New York City; Washington, DC; and Miami, along with current and former Venezuelan government officials as well as two Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarias de Colombia (FARC) leaders, announced U.S. Attorney General William P. Barr, U.S. Attorney Geoffrey S. Berman of the Southern District of New York, U.S. Attorney Ariana Fajardo Orshan of the Southern District of Florida, Assistant Attorney General Brian A. Benczkowski of the Justice Department’s Criminal Division, Acting Administrator Uttam Dhillon of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) and Acting Executive Associate Director Alysa D. Erichs of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Homeland Security Investigations (HSI).

So if we go back to the year 1989, Manuel Noriega in Panama was accused of similar charges. This of course was followed by the invasion of Panama and the capture and extraction of the accused, who was trialed and sentenced (for life) in the USA.

Is this the prelude to a similar formula to end Maduro's regime? During the middle of COVID-19 no less... Well at least the people are conveniently isolating themselves in their homes...

The New York times also wrote an article:

Federal prosecutors accused President Nicolás Maduro of participating in a “narco-terrorism conspiracy” in a major escalation of the Trump administration’s efforts to pressure him to leave office.

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WASHINGTON — President Nicolás Maduro of Venezuela was indicted in the United States on Thursday in a narco-terrorism and cocaine trafficking conspiracy in which prosecutors said he led a violent drug cartel even as he amassed power.

The indictment of a head of state was highly unusual and served as an escalation of the Trump administration’s campaign to pressure Mr. Maduro to leave office after his widely disputed re-election in 2018. Mr. Maduro has led Venezuela’s economy into shambles and prompted an exodus of millions of people into neighboring countries.
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The State Department is offering rewards of up to $15 million for information leading to the capture or conviction of Mr. Maduro, who remains in Venezuela, said Geoffrey S. Berman, the United States attorney in Manhattan.

So... Open season to hunt the current Venezuelan regime, open to all civilian contractors worldwide? Hmmm basically they just painted a giant target symbol to my country...



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March 26, 2020, 05:17:05 PM
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Official indictment press release:

Nicolás Maduro Moros and 14 Current and Former Venezuelan Officials Charged with Narco-Terrorism, Corruption, Drug Trafficking and Other Criminal Charges

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Maduro and Other High Ranking Venezuelan Officials Allegedly Partnered With the FARC to Use Cocaine as a Weapon to “Flood” the United States

Fomer President of Venezuela Nicolás Maduro Moros, Venezuela’s vice president for the economy, Venezuela’s Minister of Defense, and Venezuela’s Chief Supreme Court Justice are among those charged in New York City; Washington, DC; and Miami, along with current and former Venezuelan government officials as well as two Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarias de Colombia (FARC) leaders, announced U.S. Attorney General William P. Barr, U.S. Attorney Geoffrey S. Berman of the Southern District of New York, U.S. Attorney Ariana Fajardo Orshan of the Southern District of Florida, Assistant Attorney General Brian A. Benczkowski of the Justice Department’s Criminal Division, Acting Administrator Uttam Dhillon of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) and Acting Executive Associate Director Alysa D. Erichs of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Homeland Security Investigations (HSI).

So if we go back to the year 1989, Manuel Noriega in Panama was accused of similar charges. This of course was followed by the invasion of Panama and the capture and extraction of the accused, who was trialed and sentenced (for life) in the USA.

Is this the prelude to a similar formula to end Maduro's regime? During the middle of COVID-19 no less... Well at least the people are conveniently isolating themselves in their homes...

The New York times also wrote an article:

Federal prosecutors accused President Nicolás Maduro of participating in a “narco-terrorism conspiracy” in a major escalation of the Trump administration’s efforts to pressure him to leave office.

Quote
WASHINGTON — President Nicolás Maduro of Venezuela was indicted in the United States on Thursday in a narco-terrorism and cocaine trafficking conspiracy in which prosecutors said he led a violent drug cartel even as he amassed power.

The indictment of a head of state was highly unusual and served as an escalation of the Trump administration’s campaign to pressure Mr. Maduro to leave office after his widely disputed re-election in 2018. Mr. Maduro has led Venezuela’s economy into shambles and prompted an exodus of millions of people into neighboring countries.
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The State Department is offering rewards of up to $15 million for information leading to the capture or conviction of Mr. Maduro, who remains in Venezuela, said Geoffrey S. Berman, the United States attorney in Manhattan.

So... Open season to hunt the current Venezuelan regime, open to all civilian contractors worldwide? Hmmm basically they just painted a giant target symbol to my country...

according to us logic you can accuse the leader of a failed state that never had any financial air to breat to pay even just 1% of the police needed of anything that suits your agenda,

third world should beg for colonialism to escape their problems

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March 26, 2020, 05:42:30 PM
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according to us logic you can accuse the leader of a failed state that never had any financial air to breat to pay even just 1% of the police needed of anything that suits your agenda,

third world should beg for colonialism to escape their problems

Right. When this is over, we should petition for a referendum to join the Union, no need to remain like Puerto Rico as a modern variant of a colony...



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March 26, 2020, 06:25:13 PM
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Not surprised to see this happen, the Trump administration and honestly most of US politicians agree that he shouldn't be the President of Venezuela and that he is an illegitimate president. The NY Times article also has some pretty great quotes that is the reason that the US is taking such strong action, and should continue to do so.

In addition to Mr. Maduro, more than a dozen others were charged, including Venezuelan government and intelligence officials and members of the largest rebel group in Colombia, the Revolutionary Armed Forces, known as FARC, which has long drawn its financing from the cocaine trade.

The chief justice of Venezuela was also charged with money laundering and the country’s minister of defense with drug trafficking, Mr. Barr said. The charges were contained in four separate indictments, two filed in New York and one each in Miami and Washington, Mr. Barr said.

and FURTHER

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Mr. Maduro helped run and ultimately led a drug trafficking organization called Cartel de Los Soles as he gained power in Venezuela, according to court papers. Under his and others’ leadership, the cartel sought to enrich its members, enhance their power and to “‘flood’ the United States with cocaine and inflict the drug’s harmful and addictive effects on users in this country,” an indictment said.

The cartel, under the leadership of Mr. Maduro and others, “prioritized using cocaine as a weapon against America and importing as much cocaine as possible into the United States,” the indictment charged.

Mr. Maduro negotiated multi-ton shipments of cocaine produced by the FARC, directed his cartel to provide military-grade weapons to the group and coordinated foreign affairs with Honduras and other countries to “facilitate large-scale drug trafficking,” according to the indictment.

AND THEN THE FAMILY CONNECTION

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And two of Mr. Maduro’s nephews are serving prison sentences in the United States following convictions on drug charges. In that case, prosecutors said the nephews — sometimes called the “narcosobrinos” in Venezuela — attempted to bring in $20 million in drug money to assist their family in staying in power.

This man shouldn't be in power, end of story.




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March 26, 2020, 06:35:06 PM
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according to us logic you can accuse the leader of a failed state that never had any financial air to breat to pay even just 1% of the police needed of anything that suits your agenda,

third world should beg for colonialism to escape their problems

Right. When this is over, we should petition for a referendum to join the Union, no need to remain like Puerto Rico as a modern variant of a colony...

you mean you want to join the usa?

mainland usa doesnt expand since decades, and they don't want to expand as long as they have open borders.

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March 26, 2020, 07:39:49 PM
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according to us logic you can accuse the leader of a failed state that never had any financial air to breat to pay even just 1% of the police needed of anything that suits your agenda,

third world should beg for colonialism to escape their problems

Right. When this is over, we should petition for a referendum to join the Union, no need to remain like Puerto Rico as a modern variant of a colony...

you mean you want to join the usa?

mainland usa doesnt expand since decades, and they don't want to expand as long as they have open borders.

Mainland USA does not belong to the US. It belongs to the States or to the people. There are only a few spots in the Constitution that are allotted to the US. Essentially it is the District of Columbia and forts that have been Ceded by the States to the Federal. It's in the 10th Amendment and the Contract Clause in the Constitution, itself. The only real rule the US government has is regarding banking and interstate/international commerce.

This is why the USA is free.

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March 27, 2020, 03:04:51 AM
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And the indictment comes with a hefty bounty. A staggering $15 million for Maduro's arrest and another $10 million for his inner circle members. I don't how necessary this is, if at all, while some ordinary people within their territory itself are getting laid off from their jobs with no salaries.

And the funny thing here is that while the US government is terribly failing on its own soil, they are trying to appear to be one which puts up good governments abroad. And they have the gall to talk of the "need an effective government that cares about the people.”[1] LOL!

[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/the-united-states-indicts-venezuelas-maduro-on-narco-terrorism-charges/2020/03/26/a5a64122-6f68-11ea-a156-0048b62cdb51_story.html

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March 27, 2020, 03:55:59 AM
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The thing that we don't see is what the real reason is. There has to be a breaking of a treaty/contract/agreement, or some other paperwork that shows he is subject to the U.S. It might all have to do with some oil contract he made with the US, and never kept up his part of the bargain. Or it could have to do with some secret agreement he made with the CIA to set him in power in the first place. You probably won't see the real thing in the news.

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And the indictment comes with a hefty bounty. A staggering $15 million for Maduro's arrest and another $10 million for his inner circle members. I don't how necessary this is, if at all, while some ordinary people within their territory itself are getting laid off from their jobs with no salaries.

And the funny thing here is that while the US government is terribly failing on its own soil, they are trying to appear to be one which puts up good governments abroad. And they have the gall to talk of the "need an effective government that cares about the people.”[1] LOL!

[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/the-united-states-indicts-venezuelas-maduro-on-narco-terrorism-charges/2020/03/26/a5a64122-6f68-11ea-a156-0048b62cdb51_story.html

I'd say offering the people of a country in a horrible financial situation that amount of money is going to lead them to help the US in taking him down. We're talking about a country with like 2 million percent inflation yearly that is in a full crisis at this point.

I wouldn't be surprised if we learned about a general in his army or someone within his inner circle that turns on him to pick up money and support from the US.




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March 28, 2020, 04:26:00 AM
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And the indictment comes with a hefty bounty. A staggering $15 million for Maduro's arrest and another $10 million for his inner circle members. I don't how necessary this is, if at all, while some ordinary people within their territory itself are getting laid off from their jobs with no salaries.

And the funny thing here is that while the US government is terribly failing on its own soil, they are trying to appear to be one which puts up good governments abroad. And they have the gall to talk of the "need an effective government that cares about the people.”[1] LOL!

I'd say offering the people of a country in a horrible financial situation that amount of money is going to lead them to help the US in taking him down. We're talking about a country with like 2 million percent inflation yearly that is in a full crisis at this point.

I wouldn't be surprised if we learned about a general in his army or someone within his inner circle that turns on him to pick up money and support from the US.

This is probably what the Trump administration expects, but they fail to realize that: Those very generals, or inner circle (not all have been indicted) are the ones getting the most money from the (corrupt) situation of the country. Its literally their wealth at the expense (misery) of the masses.

And, there is a soviet style counter-intelligence system in place within the armed forces and government officials. At the slightest suspicion (and often even without any) people are removed and extorted, imprisoned, etc, etc... US agencies have been trying for many years, and they managed to convince the 3rd highest ranking officer, but after a failed attempt (around 2018) he fled the country and nothing ever changed.



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Trump has an excuse to drop a bomb on Maduro's house now. I wouldn't be surprised if he decides to do that if no one else will bring Maduro's head to him.
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March 28, 2020, 06:45:59 AM
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But what right does US have to extract someone in their own country and jail them on their soil?

Looks very disrespectful to a president of a country. What Maduro had done its not their jurisdiction to do something about it but the people of Venezuela. Its just unfortunate that they don''t don't have a neighbor country strong enough to bond with for support.

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just another coup attempt... nothing new, since Chavez that happens every 2 or 3 months

I wonder when will they start worrying about human rights in saudi arabia, qatar...

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March 28, 2020, 07:00:22 PM
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But what right does US have to extract someone in their own country and jail them on their soil?

Looks very disrespectful to a president of a country. What Maduro had done its not their jurisdiction to do something about it but the people of Venezuela. Its just unfortunate that they don''t don't have a neighbor country strong enough to bond with for support.

Well, they have done it before, and the world didn't care. Would they care if they did that again today? Of course not.

According to the indictment, it is for crimes in American soil this time. This is exactly what happened to Manuel Noriega in Panama in 1989, and back then there were no remote controlled UAVs; the very first use of a stealth plane (the "F-117") in a (real) military operation. Desert storm, etc, would come later.

If any country objects an unilateral intervention, it would be like siding with "narco-terrorism" (the words from the indictment). Of course the "friends" of Maduro are already protesting: China, Russia, Cuba, Nicaragua, etc. But can they REALLY stop the US? Only if they moved their military to Venezuelan waters (again).

Of course this could be "yet another bluff" from Trump. He likes to push, but when it comes to action, somehow he withholds like the democrats. All the previous sanctions have done nothing but fuel Maduro's regime with more excuses for neglecting to solve any issues the Venezuelan people suffer from, all they care is to remain in power at any cost.



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And the indictment comes with a hefty bounty. A staggering $15 million for Maduro's arrest and another $10 million for his inner circle members. I don't how necessary this is, if at all, while some ordinary people within their territory itself are getting laid off from their jobs with no salaries.

And the funny thing here is that while the US government is terribly failing on its own soil, they are trying to appear to be one which puts up good governments abroad. And they have the gall to talk of the "need an effective government that cares about the people.”[1] LOL!

I'd say offering the people of a country in a horrible financial situation that amount of money is going to lead them to help the US in taking him down. We're talking about a country with like 2 million percent inflation yearly that is in a full crisis at this point.

I wouldn't be surprised if we learned about a general in his army or someone within his inner circle that turns on him to pick up money and support from the US.

This is probably what the Trump administration expects, but they fail to realize that: Those very generals, or inner circle (not all have been indicted) are the ones getting the most money from the (corrupt) situation of the country. Its literally their wealth at the expense (misery) of the masses.

And, there is a soviet style counter-intelligence system in place within the armed forces and government officials. At the slightest suspicion (and often even without any) people are removed and extorted, imprisoned, etc, etc... US agencies have been trying for many years, and they managed to convince the 3rd highest ranking officer, but after a failed attempt (around 2018) he fled the country and nothing ever changed.

That's actually a very good point, and they do realize this as well. Though it really depends on how happy everyone in their inner circle is and if they think that the US (and allies) are going to do something. The generals are going to want to leave when they think things are going to turn bad -- what's the upside to stay around as their leader is toppled and they're being hung by their people. If I was one of these generals and I was thinking that it's probably pretty likely that in the next 10 years they're toppled -- give up the guy to the US and get like 15m and some sort of deal to get you and your entire family to the US.

If you're smart about investing of that money (not in bitcoin folks, sorry) -- you'd be able to live off that money forever and not have to worry about another thing. What's better then that?




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March 29, 2020, 11:42:01 AM
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The thing that we don't see is what the real reason is. There has to be a breaking of a treaty/contract/agreement, or some other paperwork that shows he is subject to the U.S. It might all have to do with some oil contract he made with the US, and never kept up his part of the bargain. Or it could have to do with some secret agreement he made with the CIA to set him in power in the first place. You probably won't see the real thing in the news.

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March 29, 2020, 02:04:55 PM
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The thing that we don't see is what the real reason is. There has to be a breaking of a treaty/contract/agreement, or some other paperwork that shows he is subject to the U.S. It might all have to do with some oil contract he made with the US, and never kept up his part of the bargain. Or it could have to do with some secret agreement he made with the CIA to set him in power in the first place. You probably won't see the real thing in the news.

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mainland usa is the usa

The astronauts planted the US flag on the moon. Is that where USA mainland exists?

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March 29, 2020, 05:48:37 PM
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Thing are going so well in the US that we have to scour the globe for problems to try and "fix".    They know a crisis is coming with oil prices this low and are trying to exacerbate it in order to get Maduro out and Guido in.  This ultimately will make the future a lot worse for Venezuela and then we will blame the outcome solely on Maduro's policies. 
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March 29, 2020, 06:17:06 PM
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The thing that we don't see is what the real reason is. There has to be a breaking of a treaty/contract/agreement, or some other paperwork that shows he is subject to the U.S. It might all have to do with some oil contract he made with the US, and never kept up his part of the bargain. Or it could have to do with some secret agreement he made with the CIA to set him in power in the first place. You probably won't see the real thing in the news.

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mainland usa is the usa

The astronauts planted the US flag on the moon. Is that where USA mainland exists?

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no the mainland is where the core of the population with certain social memes lives (americanism, tax payer, usd currency capitalism etc.

putting an american flag somewhere doesn't has a lot of meaning for some exceptions

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March 31, 2020, 05:39:17 AM
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This pattern of neo-colonialism has been going on for a long time. Remember the Banana Republics, they were lead by company backed leaders and if things go astray then the companies asked for the help of USA, maybe this is not so different from what is happening right now because we all know that Venezuela have a very rich oil depsit and you know that superpower nations love that and they are going to do whatever it takes to get a tap on that black gold.

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