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March 30, 2020, 03:16:02 PM
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We have already seen it in 2008. You do realize that the whole world got screwed because some bankers wanted more money and accepted more risks right?

The crooked wall street bankers basically paid moody's and other ranking agencies to rank the mortgages at triple A or maybe at worst B's and all that for the default rate higher than 5% and they agreed, so there was crooked illegal stuff going on there but ranking agencies are private organizations, so you can give them 100% default rate all not paid mortgage bonds and they can still rank it triple A and nothing happens to them because "it is their own opinion" and you can jail someone for their opinion.

It resulted with bankers selling a lot of dog shit bonds to people, which resulted with economy bankrupting. What happened? USA got out of it fine, hell USA paid banks billions of dollars but got paid back with interest. It was other nations that got screwed. That is how much power they have.

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March 31, 2020, 12:10:18 PM
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I also allocated a small amount of money to buy some crypto assets.
The situation is now extremely ambiguous and very risky, which forces me to act with particular caution.
By minimizing my current deposit, I very much minimize my risks.

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March 31, 2020, 12:44:35 PM
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The fed are in panic mode this is the first time in history where they will print unlimited amounts of paper money out of nothing even buying bonds, stocks and corporate debts using it.
Eventually people will start to realize that the banking system is fundamentality flawed and soon realize that the banks has been exploit them.

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March 31, 2020, 12:49:36 PM
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The government would probably feel pretty stupid if they saw how the money they gave out to be used for supplies to resolve the outbreak problem be used in investment that would probably take some time before producing results.

Why would they feel stupid?
It would be great if all that money would be used for investment so that once this is over there is enough new business so the economic activity would recover far faster. Besides, it would also mean that people are not that depended on this check for survival so the situation is better than expected.

Not to mention that those that would receive the full stimulus check would be those on the lower end of financial power, which in all honesty, are probably in dire need of funds with their main source of income currently being cut off because of the current lockdowns.

And just one line later....now the people buy mainly food.

It resulted with bankers selling a lot of dog shit bonds to people, which resulted with economy bankrupting. What happened? USA got out of it fine, hell USA paid banks billions of dollars but got paid back with interest. It was other nations that got screwed. That is how much power they have.

Oh, it's again the blame everything on the US hour?
Why did the other nation got screwed? They either did the same mistake or they depended so much on the US to unload their shit for $.

I remember a discussion around here when I asked somebody why his own country entered a recession and he said one of the main reasons was the drop in tourism...Yeah, blame the US for your misery because US tourists are not spending money in our country anymore. How evil of them!


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March 31, 2020, 02:59:04 PM
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The fed are in panic mode this is the first time in history where they will print unlimited amounts of paper money out of nothing even buying bonds, stocks and corporate debts using it.
Eventually people will start to realize that the banking system is fundamentality flawed and soon realize that the banks has been exploit them.
and this is what makes save heaven for investors. we know gold is a reference for securing funds safely. and at this time the price of gold soared. which almost equaled a few decades before. by printing a lot of paper money, of course, has its own risks. Moreover, the US is the largest corona pandemic today

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April 04, 2020, 07:25:35 AM
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There will definitely be a price jump for stocks, because there will be more who will invest. But I think that this stimulus is for sustenance rather than investment so  I think we should probably think about whether this is for investments or sustenance.

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April 05, 2020, 08:38:09 AM
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There will definitely be a price jump for stocks, because there will be more who will invest. But I think that this stimulus is for sustenance rather than investment so  I think we should probably think about whether this is for investments or sustenance.

   I read article about oil prices, this is the lowest price of oil in last 18 years. Many experts are sure how the price will rise, it's impossible
for them to go lower than this and to stay at this level for longer, big oil companies and countries are losing too much money!
   Stock-market is in the same condition. Some stocks are hitting the lowest prices in last 10+ years. Corona affected all markets, crypto-market
declined too.
   Monetary power of the U.S. government is huge! We have seen what can they do. There's a catch I believe, nobody encountered with
same problems in the past, world never had shut down like we have now. We will need to wait and see what U.S. government can do with
this, I hope for the best, not for governments, but for all people who live there.



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April 05, 2020, 04:34:53 PM
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Expect a price jump when stimulus checks start rolling in. I know I'm personally buying some crypto anyone else feel the same way?

I really wonder why many crypto investors who think optimistically want to get our opinion with such a thought or argument. Yes, the FED started to issue money recently and the American government plans to distribute this money to the public. This money to be distributed will most likely be used by consumers to meet their basic needs. Of course, it is certain that there will be some money inflows to the markets due to this cash abundance, but I think only a small part of this money inflow will be transferred to the crypto money markets. For this reason, I do not expect a serious increase in prices. Finally, I would like to say that if everyone's expectations are in this direction, more money will emerge from the crypto markets and prices will reach new bottom points. The big investor never takes action towards the expectations of a community or small investor. Someone must lose money so that they can make money.
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April 05, 2020, 06:17:59 PM
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Expect a price jump when stimulus checks start rolling in. I know I'm personally buying some crypto anyone else feel the same way?
Monetary power like printing more of it? Once US was an economic giant in the world and now even them provide their basic materials for various industries from China.
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April 05, 2020, 07:17:13 PM
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We have already seen it in 2008. You do realize that the whole world got screwed because some bankers wanted more money and accepted more risks right?

The crooked wall street bankers basically paid moody's and other ranking agencies to rank the mortgages at triple A or maybe at worst B's and all that for the default rate higher than 5% and they agreed, so there was crooked illegal stuff going on there but ranking agencies are private organizations, so you can give them 100% default rate all not paid mortgage bonds and they can still rank it triple A and nothing happens to them because "it is their own opinion" and you can jail someone for their opinion.

It resulted with bankers selling a lot of dog shit bonds to people, which resulted with economy bankrupting. What happened? USA got out of it fine, hell USA paid banks billions of dollars but got paid back with interest. It was other nations that got screwed. That is how much power they have.
They got away with it that time and they are trying to do the same this time, the US is printing a massive amount of money and while some of that is going to the people most of it is going once again to banks and big businesses, but how long can this last? It is obvious that if a country depends on the US market they will have to print a lot of money as well in order for their export sector to not fall down, but this will create a huge level of inflation during the next years and it will be impossible to hide, what surprises me is that the system is still in place despite all of what they are doing but this cannot last forever and we will eventually suffer the consequences of their actions.
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