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April 04, 2020, 07:15:06 PM
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Confused on what to invest in during the COVID19 crisis. The founder of Indra Crypto Capital breaks down in a simplified way how to best protect your finances and position yourself.

https://medium.com/@cryptohayek/covid-19-and-your-financial-well-being-346dc20dc64f

Considering the crypto market going down, now it is wise to preserve till the market will stop going down.
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April 05, 2020, 11:03:25 AM
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Confused on what to invest in during the COVID19 crisis. The founder of Indra Crypto Capital breaks down in a simplified way how to best protect your finances and position yourself.

https://medium.com/@cryptohayek/covid-19-and-your-financial-well-being-346dc20dc64f
It may not be deadliest but it certainly is the most infected in the recent memory and economic crisis is quite real because there are many companies who are not making any profit right now that will eventually affect the economy one way or another.

I am not saying it will affect horribly or destroy the nations and what not but to say that its a hoax would be disingenuous as well.

I can name at least 5 sectors it will affect starting from airline industry, hotel business, technology, car industry and food industry, all of these are getting hit pretty hard right now, to say that they won't be affected or it won't have an impact on it would be moronic. Considering these sectors have thousands of people and those thousands of people take care of other thousands of people, we are talking about hundreds of thousands of people being affected.

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April 17, 2020, 05:27:10 PM
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I still remain a supporter of the fact that due to problems with the global economy, and also because of the crisis around the world due to the fault of the coronavirus, I am sure that cryptocurrency is one of the best investments.  The fact is that any business today is at risk and therefore, to minimize risks, many businessmen and investors can invest in cryptocurrency, which in any case, after a while, increase their capital several times due to their volatility.  I believe that the coronavirus pandemic can positively affect the entire cryptocurrency market.

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I still remain a supporter of the fact that due to problems with the global economy, and also because of the crisis around the world due to the fault of the coronavirus, I am sure that cryptocurrency is one of the best investments.  The fact is that any business today is at risk and therefore, to minimize risks, many businessmen and investors can invest in cryptocurrency, which in any case, after a while, increase their capital several times due to their volatility.  I believe that the coronavirus pandemic can positively affect the entire cryptocurrency market.
Crypto market might be also affected by this pandemic crisis but i am confident to say that we are not affected that much. Bitcoin price is still stable and most of the investors still prefer to invest in btc rather than putting their money in gold or in usd. The profit may be less likely to happen this time but with its high volatility, once the price starts pumping, profits will also be on our way too.

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April 20, 2020, 03:19:40 AM
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In this time of crisis it is a good oppurtunity to make an earning by investing with a capital, but keep in mind that what you need for your capital is a money that you do not need and also atleast have an emergency fund because you will never know what happens next. According to the article, I agree with the investment oppurtunity in stocks right now and I hope that you will do the same too. Also, watch out for real estate because some if not many will surely sell their property at a bargain price which was also mentioned at the article.

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April 20, 2020, 06:25:09 AM
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Confused on what to invest in

Well, most businesses will have hard times and some businesses will be affected later by this since they're funded indirectly by some of those that are in trouble now.
All in all, it's very difficult to find something that worth investing in.

Then, the rule tells you should only invest what you afford to lose. And nowadays the "buffer" you should keep has to be bigger (for longer period).

I think that the ones who have funds for investing will wait and keep their eyes open. And when a business is getting into difficulty or simply the shares value drops significantly, then they buy.
So the rule would be: buy the dip or wait if there's no great opportunity now; it may come tomorrow.

For me, I think it is better if we treat this pandemic as an opportunity to manage our money and invest it to those valuable things. We need to take this chance to become ready and prepared after this quarantine, when we now want to engage in an investment. It is not that easy to handle and manage businesses as it is very complex and you really need prior knowledge and advice just to become successful.

You also need to have a goal, you need objectives and target so that you have something to look for, and you need to have a reason why you are doing business. You should take it seriously and make it as one of your priorities in your life. Capital preservation will help you get more profit unless you will work hard to become an effective investor.

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April 20, 2020, 06:39:45 AM
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I still remain a supporter of the fact that due to problems with the global economy, and also because of the crisis around the world due to the fault of the coronavirus, I am sure that cryptocurrency is one of the best investments.  The fact is that any business today is at risk and therefore, to minimize risks, many businessmen and investors can invest in cryptocurrency, which in any case, after a while, increase their capital several times due to their volatility.  I believe that the coronavirus pandemic can positively affect the entire cryptocurrency market.
Crypto market might be also affected by this pandemic crisis but i am confident to say that we are not affected that much. Bitcoin price is still stable and most of the investors still prefer to invest in btc rather than putting their money in gold or in usd. The profit may be less likely to happen this time but with its high volatility, once the price starts pumping, profits will also be on our way too.
But at the beginning it was also afraid to invest in bitcoin at the beginning of the same bitcoin decline, which was quite severe even for the current recovery is also still not declared stable because the whole 10k is the price at which bitcoin will look forward to halving this month.
For the crisis all industries also experienced the same thing because co-19 so there are still those who have survived any crisis from their finances (maybe) its huge reserves at a time like this.
If it is for small people then it is very painful where there is no more reserve to buy when prices fall.

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April 20, 2020, 10:15:26 AM
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It is sad to say that many companies are turning down today because of this COVID-19 pandemic. In fact, some of them are burning literally because they want to look for an insurance. Many companies gone their employees and the saddest part here is that they don't know what will happen after the pandemic. It is really difficult for the employers and I think they must have atleast way to secure their assets. And cryptocurrency investment will help them.

Like surfers now our country is facing the first wave of the corona pandemic, the second wave after the pandemic we can overcome and is certainty is the economic recession. While the third wave after the economic recession is the continuation of the war between China and the United States. When the pandemic began, the United States crossed 24 countries in the list of developing countries to become developed countries, the majority of which were OBOR partner countries in China. With this deletion, many countries will automatically lose the American market due to less competitive prices.

The governments of each country must be careful in developing new economic foundations after the pandemic effect. The first step is to absorb as much labor as possible to avoid chaos due to a starving stomach and the sector that can suck up labor the fastest is small and medium business enterprises. The government must focus on driving small and medium businesses, such as simple restaurants. The government can work with food delivery e-commerce companies to get the top 50 simple restaurant data to be directed to open branches in various cities or regions so that a lot of workers are absorbed and the economy starts rolling.

Let's just say one outlet needs 25 workers multiplied by 50 restaurants multiplied by the number of branches to absorb workers very quickly, not to mention other sectors that support the restaurant such as delivery raw materials are also alive. All that is left is for the government to carry out a socialization campaign to improve the people's economy.

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April 20, 2020, 10:39:15 AM
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In this time of crisis it is a good oppurtunity to make an earning by investing with a capital, but keep in mind that what you need for your capital is a money that you do not need and also atleast have an emergency fund because you will never know what happens next. According to the article, I agree with the investment oppurtunity in stocks right now and I hope that you will do the same too. Also, watch out for real estate because some if not many will surely sell their property at a bargain price which was also mentioned at the article.

thats good because we can learn something on the link given by the op  .

 this is a good tip for those who are newbie on investing scene  . indeed stocks are crashing and other offline assets  so they could be good for investing  but lets not forget cryptos too because cryptos are also crashing as well but the good part is that cryptos can recover faster than those previous assets we talk about  which make them good for those people that are itching to earn fast   . people are looking for ways to earn quick these day because they need the cash to buy food .
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this is a good tip for those who are newbie on investing scene  . indeed stocks are crashing and other offline assets  so they could be good for investing  but lets not forget cryptos too because cryptos are also crashing as well but the good part is that cryptos can recover faster than those previous assets we talk about  which make them good for those people that are itching to earn fast   . people are looking for ways to earn quick these day because they need the cash to buy food .
Do not rush for making your decisions on stock investments because the corona outbreak is not yet over which means you may end of catching a falling knife. I mean there will be no clear signal for those stocks has already bottoming out and also there is no guarantee about recovering of price levels nor about any quick bouncing back of entire markets.

I guess it would be a good idea to be sticking with crypto investments rather than looking for new opportunities from stocks. Because, we can be sure about cryptos to be resuming its bullish rally at any time soon whereas stocks are not showing any such assurances except few sectors like retail and fianance.
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April 20, 2020, 05:49:46 PM
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Whenever I see a bubble burst or a crash or anything that basically causes the banks to go down and money to be lost and governments to actually give away free money to big corporations I remember what Warren Buffet did. Dude basically bought out a HUGE part of Bank of America when it went down after 2008 but realized that they were not really an investment bank the size of others, it was more of a commercial bank at a huuuge size and they weren't doing all that horrible neither, so he bought huge sums of stocks from them and also lend them money in billions to cover up their quickly needed debts with a decent sized interest as well.

What happens is, he got his money back from the lending with interest, plus he got stocks for it as well when they couldn't and bought even more stocks. Of course with his help Bank recovered and became great again, yet that only worked out well for Warren as well Cheesy. So, I always remember to see the opportunities in crashes.

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April 20, 2020, 06:25:47 PM
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... So, I always remember to see the opportunities in crashes.

This! I'm completely agree. Also, this situation is not going to end soon and many people with savings can't wait till the raise of bitcoin when all of this ends, at least that the pandemic situation leads to an increase of working-from-home activities globally and with it the demand of bitcoin.causing an increasi in its price, which is a possible escenario but uncertain yet

What I do recomend, As mate said, is to look for the oportunities and those that benefits your current situation. If you need money return in a short period of time, then try to invest in activities that are arising with this situaion in your local comunity, with constant flow.

The profits won't be the highest, but will be constant and by the end of this crisis hopefully you'll be settled 
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April 28, 2020, 06:07:31 PM
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Yes it is affected as people are in need of cash to face this situation so more of normal retail investors might have withdrawn a portion of their investments and one of the major bullish events for the crypto community is the BTC halving which is expected in a month even with the same level of demand the supply will be reduced in half and I believe crypto is still the best option to preserve and invest now

Miners do not generate such a large number of bitcoins that it can affect the price of BTC. But I expect an increase in the value of bitcoin for the reason that the generation of BTC was not stopped. Miners should make a profit for their work and this should be understood by all participants of the crypto community.

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April 29, 2020, 05:11:02 AM
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In any case, only those who have managed to maintain their savings will be able to invest.
I believe there will not be many such people, but for the whales, the situation, in my opinion, is positive.
many discounted assets, not only cryptocurrency but also classic, a great opportunity.



In the face of an economic recession, having cash is important. CASH IS KING. During the economic contraction in the direction of slow down or tight money, the most powerful is cash. Where there will be many opportunities because many will slam prices or those who are caught in the trap of interest because interest-bearing loans will surely die slowly. And the savior is cash.

So if we can predict an economic recession, we should have started selling assets that were not productive last year. Those who can read the situation will hibernate and hold cash. For trading, a low hanging fruit business will be chosen, namely short-term business action, fruit that is easy to pick and straight out, exit.

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April 29, 2020, 08:25:48 PM
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In any case, only those who have managed to maintain their savings will be able to invest.


It goes down to whale. Savings from the poor at the time of plenty is difficult and hard now that isolation is all around and government isn't really able to take care of the need of the people. Investment now is a whale business not the poor for now.

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Confused on what to invest in during the COVID19 crisis. The founder of Indra Crypto Capital breaks down in a simplified way how to best protect your finances and position yourself.
Right from time my investment has been in Gold and Bitcoin. I started my first investment in Gold, and I invested in it for a long time before I got to know about Bitcoin. Bitcoin is the second investment I made, before I started investing money in a few altcoins that I believe are really good. These assets are really doing well at this time of Covid-19 outbreak. Imagine that I was buying oil lol Grin. I would have been regretting by now.

Savings from the poor at the time of plenty is difficult and hard now that isolation is all around and government isn't really able to take care of the need of the people. Investment now is a whale business not the poor for now.
You do have a good point there. This is a time that a lot of people are looking for money that will sustain for long, and many lost their jobs when this outbreak started. Some countries are starting to ease the lockdown, let’s see what’s going to be the outcome of it.

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Well, the money should have always gone down but the world we are living in makes the rich live with the other richer and poor live with the other poor so it becomes very difficult for the money that rich has to go to poor.

Yeah, the general increasing of economy is very important but at the same even if the general population is doing better compared to past (they are not) that wouldn't really change the shifts from the poor to rich, since the money of the rich rarely ever goes to the poor. That is why people with money increases their money, they become richer and richer, maybe some rich people get poor eventually for doing some wrong stuff, but rarely ever a poor becomes richer.

Don't get me wrong there are examples of regular folks becoming super rich, even though he and his family wasn't poor at all and they were well-off, Mark Zuckerberg became a billionaire before 30, so its still possible but we are talking about 1 in 7 billion, so not a big chance.
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Well, the money should have always gone down but the world we are living in makes the rich live with the other richer and poor live with the other poor so it becomes very difficult for the money that rich has to go to poor.

In the current economic system, we cannot force the rich to channel their money to the poor. But we can begin to break the chain of money flow from the poor to the rich (from the bottom up) through the consolidated bottom of the pyramid and stop saving and borrowing money in banks with the interest system.

Banks with debt and interest are the means of rake out of wealth by the super-rich to get richer with the majority of the middle and lower classes of money. By stopping saving at the bank, the flow of money that sustains the rich is also reduced. Through CBoP (consolidated bottom of the pyramid) the bottom of the pyramid has been used as the foundation of the business group market for independent change so that money only revolves around the bottom of the pyramid and raises the welfare of the groups at the bottom of the pyramid. A concrete example is shopping at a traditional market close to your home, not shopping at the supermarket.

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