The best Coronavirus cure of all.

[franky1]

i thought i seen many brainwashed people..
but badecker tops them all. definitely has bleach burning his braincells

[BADecker]

i thought i seen many brainwashed people..
but badecker tops them all. definitely has bleach burning his braincells

Sounds like you have a personal problem.     

[Spendulus]

topic title 'best coronavirus cure of all'

Jim is simply saying what most of medicine says, that they don't cure anything.

jim humble 'it cures nothing'
badecker 'they don't cure anything'

topic ended.. moving on

The cure is in knowing the fact that the control is as easy as MMS, and then, in using MMS. In other words, MMS is so powerful, that it is an inexpensive cure from the medical, which is trying to take control of your life just to get all the wealth out of you that they can.

So you are a faithful acolyte of humble shit?

Acolyte? Since MMS works, there isn't any acolyte about it.

Acolyte:    A devoted follower or attendant.

Like, I'm not asking about MMS, but whether you are an Acolyte of Humble.

[BADecker]

topic title 'best coronavirus cure of all'

Jim is simply saying what most of medicine says, that they don't cure anything.

jim humble 'it cures nothing'
badecker 'they don't cure anything'

topic ended.. moving on

The cure is in knowing the fact that the control is as easy as MMS, and then, in using MMS. In other words, MMS is so powerful, that it is an inexpensive cure from the medical, which is trying to take control of your life just to get all the wealth out of you that they can.

So you are a faithful acolyte of humble shit?

Acolyte? Since MMS works, there isn't any acolyte about it.

Acolyte:    A devoted follower or attendant.

Like, I'm not asking about MMS, but whether you are an Acolyte of Humble.

Take a look in my profile https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=149737.

[tvbcof]

Finally some doctor who works worked in the ICU notice that 'vents', and the protocols (i.e., the programming of said machines) that doctors have been instructed to use, are killing people.

Remember the name of the governor who "needs 30,000 ventilators for his area".

Edit:  Correction.  Governor.  The mayor is the one who is doing this:  https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/nyregion/mass-graves-nyc-parks-coronavirus.html  I think I remember some story about 5,000,000 people fleeing New York.  I wonder where they went?

[BADecker]

Finally some doctor who works worked in the ICU notice that 'vents', and the protocols (i.e., the programming of said machines) that doctors have been instructed to use, are killing people.

Remember the name of the governor who "needs 30,000 ventilators for his area".

Edit:  Correction.  Governor.  The mayor is the one who is doing this:  https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/nyregion/mass-graves-nyc-parks-coronavirus.html  I think I remember some story about 5,000,000 people fleeing New York.  I wonder where they went?

One of the greatest benefits we have from the medical is, they have fought hard over the decades, to take the responsibility of so many deaths off the rest of us, and place it on themselves. Now, the thing the rest of us need to do is bring out into the open how they are the killers by their own desire... and often their own FDA legal battle.

[franky1]

Finally some doctor who works worked in the ICU notice that 'vents', and the protocols (i.e., the programming of said machines) that doctors have been instructed to use, are killing people.

that Dr said vents are needed. but the treat everyone as ARDS protocol needs changing to only be when ARDS presents.
seems american healthcare really is messed up.

the doctors in america are following what treatment they can provide based on what the insurance company will pay them.
the insurance company wont pay for normal oxygen/Cpap. so only way to give oxygen is to sedate and intubate

from a health side that is malpractice and gross misconduct.
shame on american healthcare.
im just glad UK healthcare actually have the freedom to treat patients better

may this event be a learning experience that hospitals need more finance and support and capacity and especially in USA case ability to offer the actual treatment the patient needs and not the one the insurance companies offer to reimburse

giving ARDS protocol to a conscious comfortably talking patient. is malpractice in many countries

[Spendulus]

Finally some doctor who works worked in the ICU notice that 'vents', and the protocols (i.e., the programming of said machines) that doctors have been instructed to use, are killing people.

Remember the name of the governor who "needs 30,000 ventilators for his area".

Edit:  Correction.  Governor.  The mayor is the one who is doing this:  https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/nyregion/mass-graves-nyc-parks-coronavirus.html  I think I remember some story about 5,000,000 people fleeing New York.  I wonder where they went?

after this is over, I suspect a whole lot of people are going to be leaving NYC

[BADecker]

Finally some doctor who works worked in the ICU notice that 'vents', and the protocols (i.e., the programming of said machines) that doctors have been instructed to use, are killing people.

that Dr said vents are needed. but the treat everyone as ARDS protocol needs changing to only be when ARDS presents.
seems american healthcare really is messed up.

the doctors in america are following what treatment they can provide based on what the insurance company will pay them.
the insurance company wont pay for normal oxygen/Cpap. so only way to give oxygen is to sedate and intubate

from a health side that is malpractice and gross misconduct.
shame on american healthcare.
im just glad UK healthcare actually have the freedom to treat patients better

may this event be a learning experience that hospitals need more finance and support and capacity and especially in USA case ability to offer the actual treatment the patient needs and not the one the insurance companies offer to reimburse

giving ARDS protocol to a conscious comfortably talking patient. is malpractice in many countries

Malpractice should cover the whole medical. More people die in hospitals of malpractice than anywhere else.

The medical is so entrenched in society and the minds of people, that God - our loving God - is seeing that the medical industry comes down, just to protect His people who are crying out to Him in prayer, for relief from their diseases, day and night.

Who knows what we will get in place of the medical? But God is seeing that His people are protected and will be protected, even from their own stupidity... in this case by bringing the corrupt medical industry down.

[franky1]

i have been searching a few of the NY hospital, NY CDC, FDA, WHO and cant find any that show that a patient needs to be thrown straight onto a ventilator at admission.

so im guessing its either insurance restricting treatment payments and only reimbursing ARDS. forcing the doctors to only offer ARDS.
or it is incompetant doctor who is not intensive care trained who just went too extreme.

so instead of just forming that opinion and being stubborn about it (other people style). i then looked at what kind of equipment hospitals were stocking up on.

in the UK it is a mix of ful intubation vents and also devices for positive pressure (cpap) so it looks like the UK is doing it right.

as for america or more specifically NY where the doctor is from. there are many examples that doctors are using Cpap machines and requesting more, even before the doctor on hotwire(NOT ICU SPECIALISED) complained about protocol.

so im leaning more towards that ICU doctors do know how to treat. going up the scale from nasel canula to bipap/cpap to ards if it gets worse..

so leaning more to incompetant doctor doing protocol he is not trained for..

..
i will state that obviously when more patients come into a hospital than usual with specific symptoms that only a small group of specialised doctors are trained for(small ICU staff numbers) that they would need an extra hand from other departments.
but NY had like 2 months warning to train staff up.

..
in summary i feel the excess staff needed were not given proper training and probably thrown in the deep end. and it just goes to show how bad thing are with only ~1% infection spread. imagine the numbers of patients needing a hospital if it was full 100% people getting it.
so the self isolation lockdown is doing good because if they are struggling now. they definitely would be struggling without isolation delaying the spread

[BADecker]

^^^ Seems like you are missing the big picture entirely.

For hundreds to thousands of years China has been developing natural medical cures. These were probably based in their ancestor-worship mindset.

Look at the population of China - 1.5 billion. Just think how many more they would have if their government hadn't limited families to 1 child for a long time.

Now, look at the USA, coming in at around 330 million people. And the UK at around 68 million. Yet, the land area of the UK and the USA combined is almost the exact same size as that of China.

This little point is, China holding back on child production is way more successful at child production than America and Britain combined.


Now, consider the medical of the two countries. China had natural medicine for hundreds of years. Then, gradually, in the last 100 years, China started adopting Western Big Pharma practices. Suddenly China couldn't take it any longer. What do we get? Wuhan, where people are dropping like flies.

Why don't we have people dropping like flies in the USA? Because people naturally built up a resistance in themselves to the unnatural big Pharma practices.

So you can easily see that it is modern Western medicine that is destroying people around the whole world!

[franky1]

For hundreds to thousands of years China has been developing natural medical cures. These were probably based in their ancestor-worship mindset.

life expectancy before modern medicine in china was 35..
..oops did you not realise that.. well research would have helped you

as for population numbers
china had many births and no large adversary. china was a massive empires they populated fast even if they didnt live long

yes then one child policy hindered population growth. but the modern medicine got better to make people live longer, thus needing to slow down population growth

but it seems you lack the knowledge so your making things up about pre-modern era
thus your rebuttal becomes empty of detail

if you want to make a case for natural therapies.. try using an example of a area that doesnt have a 35yo average life expectancy

[BADecker]

Do we have any peer reviewed studies anywhere that show that quinine and zinc help people who are infected by Coronavirus and/or Covid-19... or that show that CV people aren't helped by these?

[jhayemcue08]

My fellow citizen who discovered the anti dengue injection is also doing his best to make an antiviral injection for coronavirus. He is Dr. Fabunan. However, the WHO warns everyone about the unproven drugs used in this vaccine. Well, atleast their doing their best to save mankind.

https://youtu.be/dwZNdfRTGO4

Everyone should pray and be united as one. That will the best thing everyone should do. God bless us all.

[BADecker]

Praying is what is important. But it is also important to not be united as one. Why not? Because we have seen a bunch of CV lies and half-truths already. Let's get to the stuff that organizations like the FDA are trying to hide, but that others are showing are working.


85 COVID Patients at The Center for Holistic Medicine: Zero Hospitalizations and No Deaths

There are five practitioners at CHM: Drs. Brownstein, Ng, Nusbaum, Jenny Drummond, PA, and Taylor Easson, NP. Since the start of the COVID-19 crisis, I have been asking my partners how their COVID patients are doing. As of this week, we have had 85 patients either diagnosed with COVID or suspected COVID.  I am pleased to report that our patients are doing well with this illness. (Note, since new guidelines have come out stating that any suspected COVID patient can be diagnosed with COVID, I am lumping COVID and suspected COIVD patients together for this post.)

I first reported to you about COVID on January 26, 2020. That was the first time I presented our protocol of using vitamins A, C, D, and iodine not only to support the immune system but also to treat viral infections. In that post, I also pointed out how important eating a healthy diet is.  The importance of using intravenous nutrient therapy, especially vitamin C, was mentioned. Finally, I suggested that, with coronavirus, it would be wise not to get a flu vaccine since the flu vaccine has been shown to significantly increase the risk of coronavirus and other flu-like viral infections.

[ololajulo]

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The CV cure is coming out into the open. Btw, quinine works better than hydroxychloroquine.....

Well, that's fucking nuts.

No, it's quinine, not nuts. Can't you even read?     

there is a family in your own state that will disagree. they have proof medical records and a death certificate.. its not far, maybe you should visit them and get first hand witness testimony from them. you might learn something

Are you talking about nuts or quinine?     

1 Hydroxychloroquine
2; Azithromycin
3 Zinc
Thats the combination but still under researh

[BADecker]

.....
The CV cure is coming out into the open. Btw, quinine works better than hydroxychloroquine.....

Well, that's fucking nuts.

No, it's quinine, not nuts. Can't you even read?     

there is a family in your own state that will disagree. they have proof medical records and a death certificate.. its not far, maybe you should visit them and get first hand witness testimony from them. you might learn something

Are you talking about nuts or quinine?     

1 Hydroxychloroquine
2; Azithromycin
3 Zinc
Thats the combination but still under researh

Right! But there are those medical doctors who think that quinine is way better than hydroxychloroquine.

[Spendulus]

.....
The CV cure is coming out into the open. Btw, quinine works better than hydroxychloroquine.....

Well, that's fucking nuts.

No, it's quinine, not nuts. Can't you even read?     

there is a family in your own state that will disagree. they have proof medical records and a death certificate.. its not far, maybe you should visit them and get first hand witness testimony from them. you might learn something

Are you talking about nuts or quinine?     

1 Hydroxychloroquine
2; Azithromycin
3 Zinc
Thats the combination but still under researh

Right! But there are those medical doctors who think that quinine is way better than hydroxychloroquine.

I agree completely.

There are those (one, at least) medical doctors (or pizza delivery boys paid to address up like a medical doctor) who think (or are paid to say they agree with this crazy) quinine....

[BADecker]

.....
The CV cure is coming out into the open. Btw, quinine works better than hydroxychloroquine.....

Well, that's fucking nuts.

No, it's quinine, not nuts. Can't you even read?     

there is a family in your own state that will disagree. they have proof medical records and a death certificate.. its not far, maybe you should visit them and get first hand witness testimony from them. you might learn something

Are you talking about nuts or quinine?     

1 Hydroxychloroquine
2; Azithromycin
3 Zinc
Thats the combination but still under researh

Right! But there are those medical doctors who think that quinine is way better than hydroxychloroquine.

I agree completely.

There are those (one, at least) medical doctors (or pizza delivery boys paid to address up like a medical doctor) who think (or are paid to say they agree with this crazy) quinine....

The reply is at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234656.msg54209097#msg54209097.

[sirazimuth]

i thought i seen many brainwashed people..
but badecker tops them all. definitely has bleach burning his braincells

I'm waiting for his "Bigfoot and Elvis Sightings"  thread, coming as soon as he tires of this nonsense.
Meantime you could always check out his godswill threads or various long since debunked myths and other laughably
crazy pseudo-science threads he splatters all over these boards....because,well... he can.
I think he's just a troll begging for attention.