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April 08, 2020, 07:03:24 AM
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Recently, India has completed 15 days of complete lockdown and now our employers have started ciruclating the comunication where we are told that there will be cut down in the salaries according to the % slab as follows :




** The values are in $
*** The values are converted from INR to USD per annum range

Looking at the cutting figures it can be seen that no employee is gonna be happy to receieve what they are goign to get.

The fact is most of the employees are still working from the home being IT personnel.

However, this doesnt change the fact that we still have to pay our EMI's, Daily food and home expenses. The life is still breathing but the money is substantially gone down.

Now everyone has to "adjust" their life with minimal money and look for the future plannings. As we do not yet know how and what the situation be in the upcoming days, this is serious matter up front.



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April 08, 2020, 09:16:48 AM
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This is unfortunate, of course. But on a wider horizon, I guess these people who are still receiving a portion of their salaries are still very much lucky considering that a great many workers right now are totally deprived of their regular salaries. And many of the workers who are not receiving their wages anymore are mostly those who are too dependent on it for their daily needs.

Looking at the table, if the value is indeed in USD, those workers whose salaries will have a cut belong to those who have really nice paychecks. Even the lowest category with an annual income of 0.12 - 0.2 million USD per annum has a monthly salary of at least 10,000 USD. Or did I get this right?


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April 08, 2020, 09:23:46 AM
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Hi,
About this pandemic, many country is implementing about salary cutting to make the company still survive from lockdown.
It's bad news for people who still work, but get salary cutting is more good than lost a job.

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April 08, 2020, 09:30:07 AM
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Indian public officials are at least subjecting themselves to some austerity measures too. The PM, all ministers, and sitting MPs are taking a 30% pay cut for one year.

Looking at the table, if the value is indeed in USD, those workers whose salaries will have a cut belong to those who have really nice paychecks. Even the lowest category with an annual income of 0.12 - 0.2 million USD per annum has a monthly salary of at least 10,000 USD. Or did I get this right?

It does appear that way.

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April 08, 2020, 09:34:00 AM
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This is unfortunate, of course. But on a wider horizon, I guess these people who are still receiving a portion of their salaries are still very much lucky considering that a great many workers right now are totally deprived of their regular salaries. And many of the workers who are not receiving their wages anymore are mostly those who are too dependent on it for their daily needs.

Looking at the table, if the value is indeed in USD, those workers whose salaries will have a cut belong to those who have really nice paychecks. Even the lowest category with an annual income of 0.12 - 0.2 million USD per annum has a monthly salary of at least 10,000 USD. Or did I get this right?



Not necessarily. Most, if not all SMEs (Small and Medium Enterprises) are heavily affected by this turn of events and many from the bottom income group either had their paychecks cut or retrenched. Worse are the ones that quitted, recently joined and then had to be "axed".

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April 08, 2020, 01:27:42 PM
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I mean what do you want to happen in a time of economic crisis? Not everyone can be paid every single dollar of what they received before, as there is no money being circulated in the economy to support that. Businesses shouldn't be required to pay their employees when they need to lay them off. That's going to be left to unemployment insurance to handle.

Every country in the world is doing this right now. Not surprising.




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April 08, 2020, 02:30:45 PM
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Recently, India has completed 15 days of complete lockdown and now our employers have started ciruclating the comunication where we are told that there will be cut down in the salaries according to the % slab as follows :




** The values are in $
*** The values are converted from INR to USD per annum range

Looking at the cutting figures it can be seen that no employee is gonna be happy to receieve what they are goign to get.

The fact is most of the employees are still working from the home being IT personnel.

However, this doesnt change the fact that we still have to pay our EMI's, Daily food and home expenses. The life is still breathing but the money is substantially gone down.

Now everyone has to "adjust" their life with minimal money and look for the future plannings. As we do not yet know how and what the situation be in the upcoming days, this is serious matter up front.


From where did you get this news? Can you please share a credible source? Because as far as I know, not all companies are going to do that. So don't generalize things here!

I believe there will be certain companies where such kind of deductions will be seen because their businesses have received a serious hit. Especially in production or heavy engineering sector.

But I believe it is stil a blessing because these people are not thrown out of jobs. That would have been a serious problem then.

Personally I feel that, a person with 10+ years of experience, positioned at the middle management of a large company, earning more than 1.5 million "INR" per annum, with home and car loans - will be happy with this salary deduction if the job is secured. Trust me, I have seen jobless life during demonetization!

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April 08, 2020, 02:42:14 PM
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We need more information about this matter regarding if this covers all companies or just businesses with clue collar type of work since they can't just cut down salaries if some of their employees are producing work from their home. The lockdown itself cannot be the reason why their salaries would be cut not unless their financials are affected but when you are saying that even IT companies have their employees take salary cuts I couldn't imagine this from happening since their business products are mainly produced digitally so their financials won't really be affected.
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April 08, 2020, 03:14:16 PM
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Most of the people in India doesn't make anything in the lockdown days so from their views it will be okay to receive reduced pay. Smiley

But don't forget most of the companies operating in India are not from India, its overseas companies working in India on many cities and we know what is the situation around the world so just be happy if you are making something. Smiley

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April 08, 2020, 03:56:31 PM
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I did some more research just now and what I have seen is they are not forcing their employees to have salary cuts and they should agree with it first, the catch is if majority of their employees take the salary cut then the survivability of the company will be at risk when most of their businesses are not operating. This is just the reality of what they have now and if this 21 day lockdown got extended we might even see some more worst effect than salary cuts. Like what I have said lay offs during this lockdown is not far from happening and that's why their first step was to make salary cuts. The Prime Minister of India already have his salary cut and some top executives of Big Indian Corporations also have theirs so if things get anything worst I know downsizing will be the next thing to happen.
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April 08, 2020, 04:04:51 PM
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So the low end of the salary range there starts at $120,000 USD? I don't buy that. Maybe the OP may have mis-converted some numbers? 1 INR = 0.01 USD.
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So the low end of the salary range there starts at $120,000 USD? I don't buy that. Maybe the OP may have mis-converted some numbers? 1 INR = 0.01 USD.

No! The low end salary range is much lower. But what OP meant to say is that, these segment of people will face the salary reduction. But don't believe in this entire news because I don't see any credibility in that! Rather, I heard that Cognizant is going to increase the salary by 25%.

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So the low end of the salary range there starts at $120,000 USD? I don't buy that. Maybe the OP may have mis-converted some numbers? 1 INR = 0.01 USD.
If that is the real salary range i would gladly move to India  Cheesy. I wonder majority of the population are under this salary range, i understand that there are many wealthy people from India but that is a relatively small population considering the billions of people living in India. If these salary cut is real that only the ultra rich are forced to cut their salary then it is not a big deal.
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April 08, 2020, 04:52:43 PM
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I sense economic downtown due to this development in India.
A 45% slash of the salary of an employee is almost a decline of half of the salary.
Economic variables are in tandem , that is, they move in same direction. Food prices will experience an increase while the disposable income is decreased causing an inflation of almost every product.

The way out is to think outside the box. Employees  can plan learning new skills that'll help them to complement their income level.
 

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April 08, 2020, 05:31:36 PM
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So the low end of the salary range there starts at $120,000 USD? I don't buy that. Maybe the OP may have mis-converted some numbers? 1 INR = 0.01 USD.
If that is the real salary range i would gladly move to India  Cheesy. I wonder majority of the population are under this salary range, i understand that there are many wealthy people from India but that is a relatively small population considering the billions of people living in India. If these salary cut is real that only the ultra rich are forced to cut their salary then it is not a big deal.
So it seems there is a mis calculation, people who are not making in millions via salaries,maybe there are single digit figures in the whole countries and all other rich people making through business so this salary reduction doesn't make any sense.

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April 08, 2020, 05:43:56 PM
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I seriously doubt cutting the income is actually a way to deal with this coronavirus and the economical trouble it is bringing.

I am not against people who are making 1+ million to give more money, they are after all living in a nation where most people do not make that much money in a decade, so it is understandable that the rich folk should give up some, but the lower it gets the worse it gets, people who are making less money should not be the target, I think if it was only 1+ million dollars and salary cutting, and stop there, it would have been quite fine.

I am not waging a war against the rich but honestly it is needed at this time when everyone is living miserably to get some money from the rich and give it to poor robin hood style, that is what will recover the economy.

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April 08, 2020, 05:59:36 PM
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The cutting of salaries will definitely hurt the workers but it still a good decision because the fund is meant for a purpose that will benefit every individuals and i also believe that the workers who have the chance of working online are still lucky because some people don't have the chance to work at home now not to talk about receiving any salary. Besides, i dont see anything bad in it if the fund is use properly and if the government,agencies etc salaries are also cut.

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April 08, 2020, 06:28:56 PM
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Blame the hysteria from getting a simple cold.

What is happening today is a lesson on the harmful effects of hypochondria.
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If you belong to those salary brackets(which you mention are in USD), you must have been living a good life in order to take home $10000 or above per month, and knowing cost of living in India, that is definitely a lot. Don't get me wrong, I hate to get my paycheck cut by such a large percentage, but if I were receiving those in a month, I'd definitely be happy to sacrifice and do my part for at least a few months instead of seeing other people perish. Perhaps not other people are like me in terms of charity but in times like these, money not that important if there are no stocks in the shelves of supermarkets and/or other stores. Also, the ones affected by the said price cuts are on the higher-end of the working class: managers, executives, IT honchos etc and not really the middle-class or those who are in the poverty line, so it's not really hitting hard IMO.

Given the current situation of the world today, the economy is in turmoil and essentially paralyzed for the time-being. Commodity prices are being frozen on where I'm at, plus the only expenses people have to worry right now is just food, med supplies and rent, since power and other things are suspended by most governments for consideration. If an employee still lives like a king in times like these, then they should not blame the government for doing the necessary thing of cutting salaries down. Besides, it's just temporary and everyone in the whole world is affected and not just you guys on the upper-ends of the spectrum.

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There should be a minimum wage for everyone even those who are not working from home. If employers cannot afford to pay then the gov should do this. Other possibility is to cut that price from next salaries...
If someone is doing 100% of his regular job from home then he should receive 100% of his salary (i know some are receiving less ~80%), if he is doing less then he normally should receive less. There should be an agreement between the boss and employees about that if it wasn't done before!!

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April 09, 2020, 10:45:22 AM
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Blame the hysteria from getting a simple cold.

What is happening today is a lesson on the harmful effects of hypochondria.

this isn't a "simple cold" dude. i've been sick with it for 2.5 weeks and i would never wish this shit on my worst enemy. i've never felt anything like this in my lungs before. i can only imagine what it's like for someone twice my age and not physically fit. i also came down with it ~2 weeks after isolating which tells me it's insanely infectious due to incubation/shedding time.

my friend's aunt also died last week from coronavirus related cardiac arrest. i didn't know her but that shit is real enough to me. not hysteria. i'm just praying my mom doesn't get it. the people who aren't taking it seriously are either ignorant, or they are sort of sociopathic because they don't have parents/relatives who may die from it and they just don't care about the rest of society.

until there is effective treatment (and no, hydroxychloroquine is obviously not good enough), known herd immunity, or extremely tough restrictions to protect vulnerable populations, i see no way out of the current situation.

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Recently, India has completed 15 days of complete lockdown and now our employers have started ciruclating the comunication where we are told that there will be cut down in the salaries according to the % slab as follows :




** The values are in $
*** The values are converted from INR to USD per annum range

Looking at the cutting figures it can be seen that no employee is gonna be happy to receieve what they are goign to get.

The fact is most of the employees are still working from the home being IT personnel.

However, this doesnt change the fact that we still have to pay our EMI's, Daily food and home expenses. The life is still breathing but the money is substantially gone down.

Now everyone has to "adjust" their life with minimal money and look for the future plannings. As we do not yet know how and what the situation be in the upcoming days, this is serious matter up front.


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There is no news regarding the Private sectors. Being employee at pharmaceutical industry we have been circulated with internal office communication for the same.

When spoke with other friend circle in the town, they have same communication, and on an average there is sureshot same salary structure everyone is getting paid.

*This is gonna be effective from the April months paycheck.



On the other hand it has been already publicly announced regarding cutting of Government official salaries by as much 30% !

News follows here : https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/after-30-pc-salary-cut-mps-to-lose-another-rs-27000-per-month-in-allowances/articleshow/75035267.cms?from=mdr
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This is unfortunate, of course. But on a wider horizon, I guess these people who are still receiving a portion of their salaries are still very much lucky considering that a great many workers right now are totally deprived of their regular salaries. And many of the workers who are not receiving their wages anymore are mostly those who are too dependent on it for their daily needs.

Looking at the table, if the value is indeed in USD, those workers whose salaries will have a cut belong to those who have really nice paychecks. Even the lowest category with an annual income of 0.12 - 0.2 million USD per annum has a monthly salary of at least 10,000 USD. Or did I get this right?



Yes.

This one is for all the management staff who is at companies Director level or Senior most position who are taking huge take home salaries right now.

Since as you go down the line, the salaries are not affected much which is tiny portion and company can pay them easily.

But for the lord persons up there its gonna be huge cutting since it will benefit the firm most. 
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I hope this would not happen in our country.. it's really unfortunate that people has to suffer on this, and that is due to the covid-19.
I also think that the government has a big role on this, they should evaluate this actions by the employers properly if its just or not, because at the end of the day, when people are not making enough, their future will be uncertain and the economy of India will be affected in the long run.

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Do you have a specific source of this information, this is an interesting one and I'm interested to know more about the news.

Recently, India has completed 15 days of complete lockdown and now our employers have started ciruclating the comunication where we are told that there will be cut down in the salaries according to the % slab as follows :

I thought in a country there's a basic salary for employees in difference sector,  if this reduce of salary is approved by the government or already pass on the ceiling of the basic salary law?

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Recently, India has completed 15 days of complete lockdown and now our employers have started ciruclating the comunication where we are told that there will be cut down in the salaries according to the % slab as follows :

I thought in a country there's a basic salary for employees in difference sector,  if this reduce of salary is approved by the government or already pass on the ceiling of the basic salary law?
Remember all companies are also under lockdown so without any income they are not expected to pay their employees just because government said you don't have to cut anyone's salaries in the lockdown period.They didn't announced any packages for companies yet so most of they companies are already under huge loss with the stock market crash so many people will lose their job even after this corona ends.

I expect something from government not from companies.

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this isn't a "simple cold" dude. i've been sick with it for 2.5 weeks and i would never wish this shit on my worst enemy. i've never felt anything like this in my lungs before. i can only imagine what it's like for someone twice my age and not physically fit. i also came down with it ~2 weeks after isolating which tells me it's insanely infectious due to incubation/shedding time.

my friend's aunt also died last week from coronavirus related cardiac arrest. i didn't know her but that shit is real enough to me. not hysteria. i'm just praying my mom doesn't get it. the people who aren't taking it seriously are either ignorant, or they are sort of sociopathic because they don't have parents/relatives who may die from it and they just don't care about the rest of society.
I hope you are doing good, there are many users in this forum who takes these things as fun, i have seen many messages here telling that people die of other diseases annually and some claim that people are just hyping the situation, people only takes things seriously once these pandemic hits your family or known people and i know the seriousness of the diseases as it will affect your internal organs and not just the lungs, i wish everyone is safe and take the situation seriously.
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I think that cutting salary is not an option for company to survive. What company will win from it? Saving some amount of money ? But will that help if because of that work expert leaves the job and in the future campaign will spend resources to find and to teach a replacement unit?

P.S. I dont know the solution for that situation. If it is a large company, then it should have some savings, it cant just be bankrupt in a month. For a small business I think it is better to close down for some period and wait.

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Cutting of Salaries in Indian Companies

Many companies will fire their workers and many companies will totally cease to exist. World will be way different a year from now as it is right now. On other hand some businesses will flourish and even some totally new businesses will show up. Many will become millionaires and billionaires just because of covid-19.
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Due to industrialization , many jobs have already been compromised and at the same time if the government continues to use workers this way , even the private sector companies , they won't be able to do their job efficiently.

You know why Google is successful ?

Because they take good care of their employees. For a stable and good economy , one needs to understand that they need to first crater to the needs of the people working with them and then think about expanding the business.

Failed future for sure , what am more scared about is failed present in India.

I know teachers , full time being paid 50$ per month , the sad thing is they have to go because the government is not able to produce enough jobs for the people and even a little matters.

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Cutting of Salaries in Indian Companies

Many companies will fire their workers and many companies will totally cease to exist. World will be way different a year from now as it is right now. On other hand some businesses will flourish and even some totally new businesses will show up. Many will become millionaires and billionaires just because of covid-19.

In recession we have seen what has happened in 2008 and since recession is already set so we may expect some job cuts or less growth opportunities for this year . Virus has destroyed many businesses and future plans of many people . Hope to see economy starts to roll as quick as possible .

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April 12, 2020, 06:33:49 PM
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Recently, India has completed 15 days of complete lockdown and now our employers have started ciruclating the comunication where we are told that there will be cut down in the salaries according to the % slab as follows :




** The values are in $
*** The values are converted from INR to USD per annum range

Looking at the cutting figures it can be seen that no employee is gonna be happy to receieve what they are goign to get.

The fact is most of the employees are still working from the home being IT personnel.

However, this doesnt change the fact that we still have to pay our EMI's, Daily food and home expenses. The life is still breathing but the money is substantially gone down.

Now everyone has to "adjust" their life with minimal money and look for the future plannings. As we do not yet know how and what the situation be in the upcoming days, this is serious matter up front.

This are hard moments but there has to be taken such measures, how does 1 mil dollar help you if there is no passion to work the field because they died of hunger or they had no access to medical treatment? Again, this is not a normal situation and affect everybody, from Africa to North Pole. I totally agree with this politics as long as the salary remain still covers the basic needs of the family.
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