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April 09, 2020, 12:25:45 AM |
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What happened:: I went to their topic and saw that they give 0.003 BTC for free with conditions that can be withdrawn, I decided that I could try. In general, I successfully lost the bonus by 80%, almost winning it. While playing the game, I discovered the achievement "1 free spin" in the game, I used it and got free games (lucky) and won a total of 0.004. I went to my profile and saw that I do not have active bonuses and I can safely withdraw money. I put on the withdrawal of ronl 0.004 BTC and after a while my request was canceled and the bonus that was not active became active, which did not give me the opportunity to withdraw money on the withdrawal again. Of course, I took screenshots because I knew there would be some problems. I didn't have the opportunity to withdraw again and I just lost them, not hoping that I would get them back. Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=940437    After all bonus active again. 
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Harkorede
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April 09, 2020, 12:48:52 AM
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Hi, You don't need to open a scam accusation just a second after things happens (in situations like this), first thing you should do is contact the owner, support or any corresponding body and explain what happened and give them a chance to respond. However, from what I can tell you should be entitled to the 0.004 0.003 BTC since you won it from a free spin which wasn't included wagering requirements. btw is your balance still available on the website ? EDIT: The maximum winnings that will be paid out resulting from a No Deposit Bonus will be 3 mBTC. Any winnings exceeding this amount will be forfeited.
Moreover, the most you were entitled to was 3mBTC |
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elmanchez (OP)
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April 09, 2020, 01:14:34 AM |
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Hi, You don't need to open a scam accusation just a second after things happens (in situations like this), first thing you should do is contact the owner, support or any corresponding body and explain what happened and give them a chance to respond. However, from what I can tell you should be entitled to the 0.004 0.003 BTC since you won it from a free spin which wasn't included wagering requirements. btw is your balance still available on the website ? EDIT: - The maximum winnings that will be paid out resulting from a No Deposit Bonus will be 3 mBTC. Any winnings exceeding this amount will be forfeited.
Moreover, the most you were entitled to was 3m BTCThey talking about no Deposit Bonus 0.003. Not free spins and other stuff. Why then wager was active again after canceled my withdrawal? "The maximum winnings that will be paid out resulting from a No Deposit Bonus will be 3 mBTC. Any winnings exceeding this amount will be forfeited." |
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Harkorede
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April 09, 2020, 01:18:04 AM |
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They talking about no Deposit Bonus 0.003.
Not free spins and other stuff. Why then wager was active again after cance my withdrawal?
Oh, of course, thats right! I suggest you wait for a response from them. |
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AB de Royse777
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April 09, 2020, 01:58:52 AM |
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There is an active red flag against the user. Few red tags and from my personal experience I have seen them to use two face standard. I also left them a tag but still I am not sure why users from BitcoinTalk do not see them :-D
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elmanchez (OP)
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April 09, 2020, 02:01:25 AM |
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There is an active red flag against the user. Few red tags and from my personal experience I have seen them to use two face standard. I also left them a tag but still I am not sure why users from BitcoinTalk do not see them :-D
I saw that flags and also your tag, I opened New Accusation to avoid same situation in future. Just for archive. |
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AB de Royse777
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April 09, 2020, 02:17:56 AM |
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I saw that flags and also your tag, I opened New Accusation to avoid same situation in future. Just for archive.
I did not discourage you to open this scam accusations but I was discouraging you not to play game in that platform after all these red flags. It was expected that you will have bad experience. |
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TalkStar
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April 09, 2020, 10:07:37 AM |
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I opened New Accusation to avoid same situation in future. Just for archive.
After visiting Bitgame777 trust page its quite clear that they don't like to provide fair bonuses to their users. There is serious accusation of changing rules after anyone win big amount on their platform. Undoubtedly its a clear sign of stealing winners money by applying sudden rules for users. You may have missed to check their trust page before planning to play there. In my opinion its too much risky for anyone to play there and everyone should avoid this casino forever. |
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elmanchez (OP)
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April 09, 2020, 10:49:00 AM |
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As I can see from our log system you have rejected your withdrawal manually and after this continued to play.  Why should I cancel my withdrawal? Then why was my wager bonus renewed? Yes, I started playing to pass this bonus, but the fact that I found a bug or your involvement in it. |
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elmanchez (OP)
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April 09, 2020, 10:56:01 AM |
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This is complete insanity, they gave me a chance to withdraw a free bonus that I used. But my withdrawal request was canceled. Now they blame me for canceling the request myself. (after the cancellation, withdrawal was no longer possible) because because the inactive bonus became active, I went and quickly merged everything. Knowing that they do not pay bonus winnings.
Draw conclusions. On the screenshots, everything is clearly visible.
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elmanchez (OP)
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April 09, 2020, 11:03:27 AM |
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This is complete insanity, they gave me a chance to withdraw a free bonus that I used. But my withdrawal request was canceled. Now they blame me for canceling the request myself. (after the cancellation, withdrawal was no longer possible) because because the inactive bonus became active, I went and quickly merged everything. Knowing that they do not pay bonus winnings.
Draw conclusions. On the screenshots, everything is clearly visible.
I have provided proofs from our log system that you personally have rejected your withdraw. It is true and you know this. I will create Scam Accusation against you because you are trying to blame us using lies. Do you want to blame me for canceling my withdrawal of free 0.004 BTC and losing? What a senility. Everything is visible on my screenshots, I continued the game after you canceled my withdrawal of funds and renew inactive bonus. Create what you want, you are scammers in my eyes, once and for all. I mean Bonus winnings from 15 Freespins. (from 1 freespin) |
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AB de Royse777
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April 09, 2020, 11:06:04 AM |
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This is complete insanity, they gave me a chance to withdraw a free bonus that I used. But my withdrawal request was canceled. Now they blame me for canceling the request myself. (after the cancellation, withdrawal was no longer possible) because because the inactive bonus became active, I went and quickly merged everything. Knowing that they do not pay bonus winnings.
Draw conclusions. On the screenshots, everything is clearly visible.
I have provided proofs from our log system that you personally have rejected your withdraw. It is true and you know this. I will create Scam Accusation against you because you are trying to blame us using lies.
This is interesting. Both of you are now blaming each others and showing proofs in each others favor. I do not trust words from BitGame77, he could alter the screenshot or the database since this is his system. I have not much idea about user elmanchez. He could come up with a false story after losing everything (I guess) when he himself cancelled the withdrawal. But according to his statement he did not cancel it by himself. It's hard to put a convolution here. I do not see any of you are coming with any additional proofs too and this accusation is not ending with a resolution of course. |
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April 09, 2020, 11:07:04 AM
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This guy personally have rejected withdrawal and the main evidence of this is fact that he immediately have continued to play after rejection. Please, check our logs.  1. Maybe your is choice of words but the word "Rejected" doesn't seem like he manually cancelled the withdrawal, but It was at your end, the appropriate word would have been "cancelled" which is what was shown on of one the screenshoots elmanchez shared 2. As asked already why was the player's wager bonus renewed again ? was that a bug ? If no then imho, I'd say the "withdrawal rejection" was from ended just to re-enable the wagering requirements, but if yes, I guess OP deserves a compensation for the bug. |
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elmanchez (OP)
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April 09, 2020, 11:19:37 AM |
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This guy personally have rejected withdrawal and the main evidence of this is fact that he immediately have continued to play after rejection. Please, check our logs. 1. Maybe your is choice of words but the word "Rejected" doesn't seem like he manually cancelled the withdrawal, but It was at your end, the appropriate word would have been "cancelled" which is what was shown on of one the screenshoots elmanchez shared 2. As asked already why was the player's wager bonus renewed again ? was that a bug ? If no then imho, I'd say the "withdrawal rejection" was from ended just to re-enable the wagering requirements, but if yes, I guess OP deserves for the bug. 1. Yes, you are right "cancelled" is more appropriated word, but currently we have only 3 statutes for withdrawal: Finalized, Active and Rejected. We will fix it. 2. Yes, it was a bug. But the main lie from this user is that he said that we have cancelled withdrawal, but it is not a true. Is that a reason to call me a liar? You guys are great at business. It’s good that I did not lose my personal money. Thanks for that too. I think I will not close this topic so that people know who they are dealing with. |
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