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April 11, 2020, 04:17:21 AM
Last edit: June 16, 2020, 01:09:02 PM by tranthidung
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Hi,

I am from Vietnam. Nice to meet you here.

  • I am thankful to anyone from Vietnam who read the thread, that is written in English. I am sorry for the inconvenience because we can't discuss in Vietnamese, our mother tongue, for now. I will give you reasons later.
  • Let's talk about rules in my thread.
  • Please don't spam, and obey my local rules as well as forum rules. Stick with rules. I said please.

Local rules of the thread
  • All posts in the thread must be written in English to be eligible.
  • Spam, zero-value, troll posts will be deleted by me. I may or maynot report such 'bad' posts to moderators.
  • The thread is opened for everyone because there are good users no matter which ranks they are currently staying at.
  • I reserve any rights to delete your posts or lock the thread whenever I want.
  • Candidates of good Vietnamese users will be applied via following form (at the bottom of the thread). Applications will only be accepted (by me) if applicants satisfy three criteria:
    • Have earned 100 merits and above
    • Surpassing my investigation on your quality
    • No restrictions on ranks



    Table of contents



    Contents

    Vietnamese local thread's history
    The Vietnamese local thread was created on January 18, 2012, at Việt (Vietnamese), by baby_ghost. It is one of the earliest born local threads according to History of local boards

    When and why the Vietnamese local thread was locked ?
    When?
    The local thread was locked on November 08, 2017, by hilariousandco.

    Why?
    Due to constant abuse according to the last message by a global moderator, who locked it. The message is below.
    Locked due to constant abuse. This is why we can't have nice things. Anyone creating Vietnamese threads outside of here will be banned.

    Why I open the thread ?
    As I stated in local rules of the thread, I believe there are good people in any nations, any locations and at any forum ranks. I started here from zero, and now I have nearly reached the Legendary rank. I earned my 1304 merits from my contributions to the forum. I strongly believe that if you are good users, you can do the same like me. Starting from zero, and become Hero, then Legendary.

    On the other hand, I also believe that don't have a local thread or a local board for our Vietnamese is a kind of disadvantage for all of us, especially newbies. Newbies mostly struggle with their beginnings on the forum as I used to. So I want to help.

    But we have to do it together. The reasons of lock is abuse, massive and constant abuse. Honestly, over my time on the forum so far I have not yet seen significant contributions of Vietnamese users to the forum. I could be wrong sure because I probably don't know valuable Vietnamese users. It is one of reasons I made the thread.

    Odds to see Vietnamese local threads will be re-allowed
    The odds to get acceptance from the head admin, theymos to re-allow Vietnamese threads is extremely low. But as always don't give up. Let's change our destiny, begin with our contributions, not abuses. Let's change the way you use the forum first and see what will happen next months or even years. Please don't expect any changes instantly, it won't be changed in a blink of eyes.

    Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ
    Now, let's spend your time to read or re-read forum rules. If you are newbies, you must do it.

    A welcome message from theymos
    Next, please read a welcome message delievered by theymos: Writing a welcome message.
    After reading it, you will understand the forum give you all warm welcome, from learning knowledge to getting income. Most important point I want to emphasize from the admin's message is you have to obey forum rules, contribute first, grow up, before thinking of getting income. It is the right way for you to use the forum. Having some sort of jobs on the forum is privilege, not rights.

    Table of potential good Vietnamese users
    Let's start off the table by my self-description and my contributions.
    • I joined the forum on November 08, 2017
    • My contributions: you can see them here and have your own assessments on what I have contributed.

    If the table can not be expanded well with good users, the odds for us is zero.

    Table format is under construction.

    Application form
    The form is under construction.(no need to hurry, you need time to think of what you will write here).

Let's discuss first, but as being said, please say nice words, in English. If you don't have nice words to say, please ignore my thread.



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April 11, 2020, 04:32:47 AM
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good attempt and hopefully a way to show that there are some good guys around who speak Vietnamese.
i will share this thread with my friends who speak the language to help you out. cheers!
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Good initiative; maybe a way to gather a couple of more serious local folks who understand what this Bitcoin thing is about.

Found it easier back in the old day (2013'ish) to connect with the "old guard"; back at that time people in Bitcoin were generally much more driven by ideals. Lots of the guys from the old days retired by now, keeping a low profile and not much involved anymore publicly. Good on them!

Since 2017 the (visible) local scene here in Vietnam unfortunately has become total dogshit, a pure cesspool. Everybody playing the China-style get rich quick schemes; launching bullshit token scams and generally it feels it has become a gathering place for low-ethics hustler scum of society... - which certainly makes many of the decent local people stay away from it; rightfully so.

Unfortunately in the (active) local scene there is at this point in time not anybody I could vouch for without reservations, but maybe they are also all just in hiding/lurking mode because they don't want to associate with the local crypto-scammer folks and dont know where else to turn to.

Therefore... - would be happy if this thread helps to find a few more local folks who are interested in Bitcoin beyond seeing it just as a way to "quick riches" and screwing over your fellow people in the process as manyfold & fast as possible.

Beyond that:

Not sure if he's on Bitcointalk, but Hugohanoi certainly one of the few Bitcoin folks of Vietnamese descent who provide very valuable contributions to the scene.

Otherwise the local Bitcoin-focused communities in Saigon, Da Nang, Vung Tau and Hanoi seem to do a decent job, but are unfortunately very Expat-skewed when it comes to the attendance rate.

 

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April 14, 2020, 10:09:42 AM
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Since 2017 the (visible) local scene here in Vietnam unfortunately has become total dogshit, a pure cesspool. Everybody playing the China-style get rich quick schemes; launching bullshit token scams and generally it feels it has become a gathering place for low-ethics hustler scum of society... - which certainly makes many of the decent local people stay away from it; rightfully so.
AFAIK, it happened over the whole forum when people got crazy with bitcoin and many scam projects, ICOs. Bounty hunters got crazy with their spams. I don't know during that period, the Vietnamese local thread is the most terrible spam place or not but the fact is it was locked. Maybe there were more spam boards but they have local moderators to handle it that we did not have for our local thread.
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Unfortunately in the (active) local scene there is at this point in time not anybody I could vouch for without reservations, but maybe they are also all just in hiding/lurking mode because they don't want to associate with the local crypto-scammer folks and dont know where else to turn to.
In general, it happened with the forum when some prestigious users left the forum that forced theymos (somewhat) to create the merit system that works well to keep the forum cleaner.
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Not sure if he's on Bitcointalk, but Hugohanoi certainly one of the few Bitcoin folks of Vietnamese descent who provide very valuable contributions to the scene.
Thank you for information on hugohanoi, that kind of looks like knowledgeable crypto enthusiast.
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Otherwise the local Bitcoin-focused communities in Saigon, Da Nang, Vung Tau and Hanoi seem to do a decent job, but are unfortunately very Expat-skewed when it comes to the attendance rate.
Helpful links too.

Generally, by now, I can see a fact that there are not much valuable members from Vietnam. Maybe they have been inactively, left the forum or have not yet seen my thread. Let's wait for a while.





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April 14, 2020, 07:30:39 PM
Last edit: April 16, 2020, 05:55:01 PM by ChuckBuck
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This topic will be crossed out, I will temporarily treat it as a removed topic, I will delete it in the future if necessary.

The Vietnamese translation of 💰Fundraising campaign-Feed the one who are affected by the COVID-19 🦠Pandemic have been moved to another forum to avoid unnecessary trouble. Due to a ban that has been happening in 2017 for the Vietnamese community, I will not keep any Vietnamese posts on this forum from today.

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April 14, 2020, 11:24:44 PM
Last edit: April 15, 2020, 02:21:39 AM by tranthidung
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You made a good translation, ChuckBuck. I wonder that post breaks what hilariousandco warned or not.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60101.msg24220987#msg24220987
Honestly, I don't know what he implied with the word 'here'. That thread was locked by him so no one can post in that thread. Did he imply that it is the other languages/ locations board? Smiley

It is unclear but I think you should delete the above post.





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April 15, 2020, 02:22:24 AM
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I was looking around for a Vietnamese local board or thread for while now and finally I found it. It is a little bit weird we use English in a thread full of Vietnamese but it is fine and somewhat help reduce spam. It is time to show that Vietnam has a huge, active and healthy cryptocurrency community.

I am still new with this forum so I barely can help you with any candidate for your good users list. However I believe someday I will name myself on that list.

P.S: Are you a girl? Grin.
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It is time to show that Vietnam has a huge, active and healthy cryptocurrency community.
I am sure Vietnamese are huge and actively on the forum but to say we have a healthy community on the forum, I don't think so. It is why the old Vietnamese local thread was locked.
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However I believe someday I will name myself on that list.
Keep up your good works, newbies are welcome here, by the admin and the community, including me, sure.
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Sometimes I am, sometimes I am not. I am bisexual.  Grin





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You made a good translation, ChuckBuck. I wonder that post breaks what hilariousandco warned or not.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60101.msg24220987#msg24220987
Honestly, I don't know what he implied with the word 'here'. That thread was locked by him so no one can post in that thread. Did he imply that it is the other languages/ locations board? Smiley

It is unclear but I think you should delete the above post.
Well, I was asked to make a Vietnamese translation, I thought I should post it here, but it's something to worry about anyway. I think I should keep this translation here a bit more, I'll text him to ask about this. I will take further action immediately after receiving a response from him. Thanks for your reminder  Kiss

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Well, I was asked to make a Vietnamese translation, I thought I should post it here, but it's something to worry about anyway. I think I should keep this translation here a bit more, I'll text him to ask about this. I will take further action immediately after receiving a response from him. Thanks for your reminder  Kiss
Did you get reply from him? What sort of answer you received? If there is no answer or the answer is "Not allow", please delete it. If you don't do this, I will do it because it breaks the local rule of the thread. Thank you and sorry for inconvenience.





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April 17, 2020, 06:50:19 AM
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on other forums like bitcoingarden you may be able to post in vietnamese.
you could also try to run your own reddit.
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good attempt and hopefully a way to show that there are some good guys around who speak Vietnamese...

Exactly, taking into consideration how many members on Bitcointalk are from Vietnam maybe they deserve to have their own local board again.

I know that there were problems in the past and Vietnamese local section was closed because of too many problems they caused but still, I think that a good moderator and a few good members could be enough to keep this board clean from scams and correct with the forum rules.

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I think this is a great way to at least do the first move to separate the bad from good and sift the spoiled grain.

Of course, a lot more work will be needed and that is why I think that a local board for Vietnam could be something good because people get to know each other a lot better when talking in their own language and they could be the best source of information about scammers and rules abusers between people from Vietnam.

I am happy to see that @Tranthidung is trying to do something about this. Good luck and I will keep my fingers crossed.

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Today I just learned about topic about my country. Unfortunately it was locked. I hope there will be a new topic opened for my country.
Ty girl Wink)
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Today I just learned about topic about my country. Unfortunately it was locked. I hope there will be a new topic opened for my country.
Ty girl Wink)
As being written in OP, the odds to see the Vietnamese local threads will be allowed again is extremely low but don't give up.

I wish that we can work together, and demonstrate that there are good members from Vietnam, and rebuild the general reputation of the Vietnamese community, we can achieve something in the far future (I guess it will take months or even years), not soon for sure. If you believe in Bitcoin, and know the fact that the forum is the biggest bitcoin forum, and have plan to be here for coming years, today is a good day to start doing something meaningful.

We need concrete attitude and plans to rebuild it as well as to protect it from potential damages from bad guys in the future (if our local threads(s) will be allowed).





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Are there any Vietnamese artists want to sell such portrait paintings like that service?
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A friendly bump to this topic. I have the intention to translate some useful, quality topics into Vietnamese but couldn't find an appropriate place to post. Really need a local board.

However I believe someday I will name myself on that list.
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Hugo Nguyen has been looking to build up some type of library of fundamental Bitcoin texts (stuff like Satoshi, Szabo etc.) under "Nakamotovillage".

Progress a bit slow there, but if you got any good stuff ready - might also be able to get it reshared there.


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I have some collective things for Vietnamese Bitcoin enthusiasts:
The latest BTM, and the first one in Tan Binh district, at the location is very close to the Tan Son Nhat internation airport.
Some might have seen it already, but we haven't been lazy during the lockdown and worked to obtain another location right next to Ho-Chi-Minh-City's Tan Son Nhat Airport  Smiley






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I have some collective things for Vietnamese Bitcoin enthusiasts:
The latest BTM, and the first one in Tan Binh district, at the location is very close to the Tan Son Nhat internation airport.
Some might have seen it already, but we haven't been lazy during the lockdown and worked to obtain another location right next to Ho-Chi-Minh-City's Tan Son Nhat Airport  Smiley


you may also add the thread for bitcoin meetups in vietnam: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146567.0
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We invite VND traders and Vietnam bitcoiners to try Bisq - the non-custodial, most decentralized and private Bitcoin to fiat and altcoins exchange!

To learn and get started:
https://bisq.network/getting-started/

The app UI can be switched to Tieng Viet in  Settings, but the translation need updating.
If you want to help update the translation and get compensated by the Bisq DAO, check in at keybase or other Bisq forums for latest instructions:
https://keybase.io/team/bisq

https://docs.bisq.network/#contributor-docs
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