Blockchain can help fighting corona

[Tolosi]

In order to return to some normality it is essential to track corona virus history of everybody. Not very democratic but also very un-avoidable.

What we urgently need is the vaccines and multiple repeated antibody testings.

Medical authority should develop public/private key pairs one for each person an keep the private keys.

All virus related test results should be entered in the block-chain similar to bitcoin transactions now.
In near future when the vaccine is finally developed vaccinations and subsequent antibody tests should be entered in the block chain too.

Once somebody has finally recovered or vaccinated and is medically proven not to be the virus spreading carrier that person should be issued a machine readable ID card with photo ID signed by private key kept by the medical authority.

Special network connected check block chain nodes will allow quick worldwide validation of this ID cards quickly

Only those person can be allowed to travel internationally and provide essential services for other people.

Medical community will develop better tests and hopefully a vaccine soon, but information specialists have to provide non mutable and very robust worldwide tracking system of  persons who have already acquired the corona virus immunity.

That is where block-chain could help solve this crisis sooner.

I would be interested to hear some other proposals on using block-chain in along those lines.

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[lucasholder]

That's interesting food for thought but I doubt such a product could be developed fast enough to be useful for the current coronavirus epidemic. Maybe it could be ready for the next epidemic though.

[Nadziratel]

Sorry, but we've seen a lot of blockchain projects trying to be developed about food chains. But even in a normal period, we saw that they were not successful and could not progress.

In fact, it's not just about food chains. Blockchain is a great technological development, everyone agrees. But I am not sure how accurate it is to apply to Blockchain to solve all the problems in the world. In other words, Blockchain can not cure all of our problems. Instead, it may be time to use blockchain in the right place and look for more rational solutions in other areas.

[20kevin20]

Not trying to be "that guy", but I just don't see any reason we'd have to set all of this up, even on Blockchain, just because a pandemic has been out there. Are we trying to return to normal or do we want to split the society into two: the infected ones and the non-infected ones? Because to me it doesn't sound like a "return to normality" at all.

Your idea sounds actually worse than communism. Are we really willing to go that way?

I've been in self quarantine for MONTHS already and I started weeks before my country even had a first case. Why do I have to be forced to do tests, vaccines etc if I have literally respected every single rule and have not been exposed to the virus? Why should my rights be taken away (I mean they already are, but...) because I just do not want to take the test or the vaccine?

Look, here's one thing.
 - I started the self-quarantine by wondering whether a corporation will again be the one to create the vaccine and give it to us. Obviously, not for free. Have you seen the official vaccine candidates? Since when does Bill Gates dictate my life and control my rights? How can I trust a vaccine from someone who said numerous times on TV that we need to reduce population growth?
 - When I heard the WHO say "Test, test, test!" a red alarm sounded off in my brain. I always like to think the opposite of what authorities and high-level organizations tell us. When I heard they said that, I thought "okay, something should be wrong with the tests!" and guess what - weeks later, tests are found to be contamined with the virus.

So right now I'm in this exact situation:
 1. I don't trust the tests;
 2. I don't want someone who's been in thousands of other houses to enter MINE, which was isolated from any risk of the virus infection;
 3. I don't want to take Gates'/J&J's/Moderna's vaccine;
 4. I am not going to install any app or device that permanently tracks me and/or alerts me of nearby infected. Is this a zombie apocalypse and I didn't know?

Are they going to forcefully inject me and take my test? If so and everyone agrees with that, then the future looks terrible and we have all contributed to it by letting each and every right of ours be taken away and literally ask them ourselves to do all the things they're wrongfully doing right now.

So no, using Blockchain doesn't help. It's like putting milk & honey over moulding cereals. Let's use the Blockchain to develop something good for humanity and not something worse-than-communism because I'm very sure that a lot of members out here agree with at least 2 points from the 4 above.

Sorry, but we've seen a lot of blockchain projects trying to be developed about food chains. But even in a normal period, we saw that they were not successful and could not progress.

In fact, it's not just about food chains. Blockchain is a great technological development, everyone agrees. But I am not sure how accurate it is to apply to Blockchain to solve all the problems in the world. In other words, Blockchain can not cure all of our problems. Instead, it may be time to use blockchain in the right place and look for more rational solutions in other areas.

You're the perfect example of someone who doesn't even read the OP and replies based on what the last replies say. Sad.

[davis196]

Any government can create such database without the help of a blockchain technology.
Blockchain will just make the database a little bit more secure and transparent,I don't see any other benefits of such implementation.
By the way,tests aren't 100% accurate and there are doubts about this "coronavirus immunity" theory.
There were many people that were cured from the virus,but got infected again.
Creating a totalitarian society ruled by technologies,just to fight a pandemic sounds really dangerous to me.

[Tolosi]

Are they going to forcefully inject me and take my test?

Probably not but most likely you will not be allowed to fly internationally wihout some proof of immunity.

[Assface16678]

Blockchain can help to fight the coronavirus by using this to make faster connection into the transactions made by different users also it is better if they are trying to do some projects related on this because they can now make a lot of help to the people struggling to find some foods, mask and other stuff they need to survive this kind of pandemic outbreak also be conscious and aware to the projects because not all the time those are legit one because today the scammers and hackers now use and grab this opportunity to take advantage to the people because they know it is the easiest thing to make more earnings.

[Nadziratel]

Blockchain can help to fight the coronavirus by using this to make faster connection into the transactions made by different users also it is better if they are trying to do some projects related on this because they can now make a lot of help to the people struggling to find some foods, mask and other stuff they need to survive this kind of pandemic outbreak also be conscious and aware to the projects because not all the time those are legit one because today the scammers and hackers now use and grab this opportunity to take advantage to the people because they know it is the easiest thing to make more earnings.

Come on guys, we have already fastest connections with some non blockchain platforms. There is no relation with connection or communication with corona virus recovery.
Corona virus has not recovery solutions yet. Scientist is looking for a way but there is not!
And I am sure if anyone find any solution, we all will be reach all information quickly.

So there is no blockchain need here now. Just need a cure.

[Tolosi]

Creating a totalitarian society ruled by technologies,just to fight a pandemic sounds really dangerous to me.

I would rather live in a totaltarian society compared to being dead in a utopian democratic dream.

[minairia3]

I am not sure about that. If you mean is tracking the cases, it is not necessary needes blockchain for that purpose. Blockchain goal cannot be tapped on ths one whatever we think any of help it can give. But it can help those people by using blockchain as a way to spread the help such as donation and using it as fast transaction for funds that will be used for helping affected community or hospitals. Aside from it, I cannot see elsewhere we can utilize it for fighting the corona virus. What we need here is a cure or any vaccine that can kill it totally.

[hatshepsut93]

And why would you need a blockchain to do all that instead of a good old SQL database? Blockchain is just a database shared between multiple parties that don't trust each other, and this isn't the case with the government where everyone works together. There's zero reason to go blockchain if you are the only participant of it.

And some governments already do something like what you have described without blockchain, which only proves my point.

[20kevin20]

Probably not but most likely you will not be allowed to fly internationally wihout some proof of immunity.

As soon as I have rights, let this be the only issue I'd encounter.

But your idea leads to more than just that. It implies the removal of many rights and sounds very similar to what China has started doing (Archived).

This, together with the fact that China has been chosen to serve UN's Human Rights Council (Archived) and your ideas added right next to these two make it look exactly like we're starting to move towards a China-like regime. Do we really fucking want that? Do we really want the world to go into a CCP-like leadership? If everyone does and I'm among the few who don't, then maybe it's just me going insane... 

I'll repeat myself: let's use Blockchain for the sake of our humanity. Let's not destroy ourselves and our own rights with it. Be it even the storage of all personal info on BTC's blockchain, I still would not agree with it because I know there's some shady stuff behind-the-scenes.

[camito]

In order to return to some normality it is essential to track corona virus history of everybody. Not very democratic but also very un-avoidable.

What we urgently need is the vaccines and multiple repeated antibody testings.

Medical authority should develop public/private key pairs one for each person an keep the private keys.

All virus related test results should be entered in the block-chain similar to bitcoin transactions now.
In near future when the vaccine is finally developed vaccinations and subsequent antibody tests should be entered in the block chain too.

Once somebody has finally recovered or vaccinated and is medically proven not to be the virus spreading carrier that person should be issued a machine readable ID card with photo ID signed by private key kept by the medical authority.

Special network connected check block chain nodes will allow quick worldwide validation of this ID cards quickly

Only those person can be allowed to travel internationally and provide essential services for other people.

Medical community will develop better tests and hopefully a vaccine soon, but information specialists have to provide non mutable and very robust worldwide tracking system of  persons who have already acquired the corona virus immunity.

That is where block-chain could help solve this crisis sooner.

I would be interested to hear some other proposals on using block-chain in along those lines.

The concept of using blockchain is somewhat okay due to its transparency. However, I think the major problem here is that it can't be utilized by all countries facing COVID-19. Firstly, the medical field is already in chaos due to increasing number of patients. There is also a lack of manpower so the plan for utilizing blockchain may be set aside because there is already an existing tracker on their own. Also, other powerful governments, those with resources have already come up with codes and algorithm that can be used with tracking patients.

[alexeev.tosha0109@yandex.]

It is too expensive and complicated for developers. Blockchain is a great technology, of cause, but it is unable to fix all the problems in the world. If we couldn't successfully implement blockchain for voting system, how can it be effective for beating the pandemic?

[USBitcoinServices.Com]

I know this thread is about blockchain helping corona, But Corona has alternatives and can be cured by this (sorry didn't find English version)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM229TQjusQ

Some of his publications has been blocked already.

Testimony of a cured person of covid19 (Still Spanish sorry.)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM229TQjusQ

[yazher]

It was at this moment that the early blockchains fans think how blockchain technologies can solve our problem, like for example "convenience".  If we had educated the people about it, we wouldn't have a problem right now about how we are able to manage successfully the social distancing protocols. rather those who have known blockchain can quickly use their knowledge and prevent more infections and casualties by digitalizing all their moves including when they want to go out to buy some food. in that case, there will be no problem with social distancing.  But instead of supporting it, most countries decline the idea behind it and some banned it without some proper research. it could have been a big help right now but the government wasted it.

[CHENIEN]

-Blockchain technology can help by supplying something like relief goods and etc. Aside from that unlimited transaction of digital cash is the most variable to maintain minimum to maximum volume of payment for daily basic as online source , blockchain services is suitable to use in case of emergency like this pandemic

[Sanugarid]

-Blockchain technology can help by supplying something like relief goods and etc. Aside from that unlimited transaction of digital cash is the most variable to maintain minimum to maximum volume of payment for daily basic as online source , blockchain services is suitable to use in case of emergency like this pandemic

Indeed blockchain can really help during these situation, I'm living in third world country, I know how things are being handled but I'm sure blockchain is not what we really need now. What we need now is manpower, volunteers to get the relief goods in any place in locked down cities. But I guess if we had enough time to prepare we could've utilize the every inch of blockchain to help during these days that food is limited in the market. This is a wake up call for all of us, we must look into blockchain after the pandemic ends.

[Gozie51]

I think you are talking for people who are already effected and when they are cured but what about projects on the blockchain to avoid contact at the initial stage as prevention.

[The Cryptovator]

I don't think its something to make decentralized regarding Corona patients, vaccine or related stuff. All the government have been storing data about COVID-19 epidemic. I don't see any point to use blockchain technology about it rather than help world populations especially for foods. I have no idea how to use blockchain to help but it's quite important on current circumstances. On the other hand your idea is leveling to Corona patients and his details which would be harmful for them. Because when a Corona patient released from hospital after cure then people don't wanna take him easily and try to ignore him (I have heard some story like this). Better just keep as it is, no blockchain requires store data for COVID-19.

[sureshverma]

I was sure that a way to fight the coronavirus using blockchain would be found and this happened

[turkandjaydee]

There were many people that were cured from the virus,but got infected again.

This is very interesting. Is this valid information? Could you please provide the information source?

I also don't know about this, but I also read that it's not about reinfection but its because the patient hasn't even recovered yet. And for test accuracy problem, is it because of a human error, no?

So for OP, this idea is not possible to happen in the near future because even from the medical side there are still many problems and not to mention the other things that have been mentioned before.

But that's very creative thinking tho.

[maxreish]

Correct me if i got your point wrong or not. Does this mean it will gonna determine conveniently the contact tracing? The root of the covid will be trace then?
 I somehow like your idea about that id with keys. But with this current situation we are facing it is hard to develop and implement it now. Are we just gonna give ids to those PUI, PUM and COVID POSITIVE only?

[Tolosi]

Today Germany reported that 100.000 people that were infected are healthy now. Most probably they are immune at least for a period of time. Those people should be allowed to move freely and go to work work. Those people can be very important in returning to normality because they can do many things that still non infected can not safely do now. I think some sort of written statement from a medical institution should be issued to those people. This statement must have high level of integrity and be easily confirmed. There I see the role for purpose developed block chain type global computer network. It is not good for contact tracing as I see it.

When we had the deadly variola epidemic long time ago, we were all vaccinated quickly and the spread of the infection stopped. But for months after that on every trip outside town, on every flight I had show a little booklet with data of may vaccination and a photo ID. I think the same will be required in this situation but this time rt will be an electronic verifiable record. Block chain technology would be ideal for this.
And it would help bitcoin get wider acceptance too. Imagine headlines like "Bitcoin based technology helps save the world  from corona virus pandemic".

[dersu1995]

The coronavirus crisis could still hand the world’s most volatile currency the upper hand in a global recession. In the aftermath of the World Health Organisation’s decision to officially declare Covid-19 a pandemic few month ago, pretty much every asset in the world fell in value, even supposed safe haven assets such as gold and bitcoin. While gold has since recovered and reached levels not seen since 2012, the so-called “digital gold” is still down more than 30 per cent from the year-to-date highs made back in February.

[Debonaire217]

It should be real-time because in any point in time, people could acquire the virus and it is too hard to detect it already since you need to undergo tests and wait for the result. With the application of blockchain technology, maybe what we can improve is the monitoring of active coronavirus cases that could not be changed and is good for transparency. Though, there are countries that don't want to disclose the actual number the infections, how could we implement blockchain monitoring if the test kits availability isn't enough.

[Lorence.xD]

It should be real-time because in any point in time, people could acquire the virus and it is too hard to detect it already since you need to undergo tests and wait for the result. With the application of blockchain technology, maybe what we can improve is the monitoring of active coronavirus cases that could not be changed and is good for transparency. Though, there are countries that don't want to disclose the actual number the infections, how could we implement blockchain monitoring if the test kits availability isn't enough.

I think the technology is viable for monitoring but in my opinion using block chain is useless because what we need is contact tracing not monitoring, quarantine does the work though the quality varies per country, I do not think now is the time that we should use block chain for those things and such.

[gokumarket]

It seems interesting and in any other way, blockchain will defiantly turn savior in security majors. As Blockchain can hold the data securely and technology is viable for monitoring the real-time result, it can be one of the options and if it will get collaborated with the AI it can help to show the real-time test results for the individual and can be tracked globally. 

[JohnAndersen]

Interesting thoughts, i agree with some of it, lets see how it goes