The 2017-2018 Flu Killed 80,000 Americans, But No Hysteria or Shutdown

[SaltySpitoon]

Let me help you out a little.

Bombshell revelations - WSJ (Wall Street Journal) caught running fake science coronavirus scam - https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-04-21-wall-street-journal-caught-running-fake-science-stanford-researchers-coronavirus-hoax.html.

Sorry I was curious and read this one, again while I disagree with it, did you read it and realize its saying exactly what I was saying as a joke about the Corona Virus actually being more dangerous than the media is claiming and that they're downplaying it? They're directly disagreeing with your point of view. "Its the old no worse than the flu narrative"

[BADecker]

Let me help you out a little.

Bombshell revelations - WSJ (Wall Street Journal) caught running fake science coronavirus scam - https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-04-21-wall-street-journal-caught-running-fake-science-stanford-researchers-coronavirus-hoax.html.

Sorry I was curious and read this one, again while I disagree with it, did you read it and realize its saying exactly what I was saying as a joke about the Corona Virus actually being more dangerous than the media is claiming and that they're downplaying it? They're directly disagreeing with your point of view. "Its the old no worse than the flu narrative"


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It seems like you are completely missing the point. Here's the point.

Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

Why is this the point? Because when is it okay to believe a scammer, and when is it not okay?

If they lied to you the first time, why would you think they are not lying to you now? Especially when there is all kind of evidence that they are lying to you now, as well?

It seems you are getting too deep into what somebody is saying, and not thinking about their nature.

The article might be saying that there were hoaxes about Coronavirus going on, but that is true with lots of things in life. Why isn't the main hoax Coronavirus itself? Why aren't the reports about people dying from CV in hospitals and elsewhere a hoax? Is it because:
1. Most news outlets are saying it?
2. Many governments are saying it?
3. Many doctors are saying it?
4. Because there was a courtroom debate about it with professional debaters, and expert witness, all of whom were under oath to do and tell the truth, with the penalty being 20 years to execution.

Not all news outlets are saying it.
Not all government people are saying it.
Not all doctors are saying it.
If there wasn't a professional court battle about it, there is strong evidence out there that the whole thing, including the number of deaths are a hoax. How can the deaths be a hoax? Because the testing still isn't conclusive enough to show that the deaths are due to Covid-19, and not some sister disease, including all kinds of influenza or pneumonia. And the statistics aren't even clear enough to show that deaths are more than a simply bad flu year.

Or do you have proof?

[franky1]

^
people been telling backecker that his faux news sites/blogs/videos have been lying to him..
multiple times.. many weeks

badecker still beleives the faux news

so in badeckers case, fool him 200 times shame on himself

[BADecker]

^
people been telling backecker that his faux news sites/blogs/videos have been lying to him..
multiple times.. many weeks

badecker still beleives the faux news

so in badeckers case, fool him 200 times shame on himself

Thank you for admitting by default that you still don't have any proof.

[franky1]

^
people been telling backecker that his faux news sites/blogs/videos have been lying to him..
multiple times.. many weeks

badecker still beleives the faux news

so in badeckers case, fool him 200 times shame on himself

Thank you for admitting by default that you still don't have any proof.

you wouldnt know what proof looked like if someone showed you it.
you have by your many repeated scripts on many topics shows you dont even know how to look for proof or scrutinise info to see if it is proof or not. you just blanket claim something is not proof if its not presented by a certain social influencer you are fangirling over.

get off them 5 stupid websites your frequent and actually realise there is a wealth of proof to be found. far closer than you think. even within your own state. should you dare actually go find it you will surprise yourself
but first you need to realise self isolation does not apply to websites. you are not forced to only view 5 websites.

[BADecker]

^
people been telling backecker that his faux news sites/blogs/videos have been lying to him..
multiple times.. many weeks

badecker still beleives the faux news

so in badeckers case, fool him 200 times shame on himself

Thank you for admitting by default that you still don't have any proof.

you wouldnt know what proof looked like if someone showed you it.
you have by your many repeated scripts on many topics shows you dont even know how to look for proof or scrutinise info to see if it is proof or not. you just blanket claim something is not proof if its not presented by a certain social influencer you are fangirling over.

get off them 5 stupid websites your frequent and actually realise there is a wealth of proof to be found. far closer than you think. even within your own state. should you dare actually go find it you will surprise yourself
but first you need to realise self isolation does not apply to websites. you are not forced to only view 5 websites.

You found this stuff by looking deep within yourself, right?

The proof to be found would essentially only be in a court trial by jury of Covid-19/Coronavirus.

[Spendulus]

....you are not forced to only view 5 websites.

Wait. You only got five fingers.

[Nissan-GTR]

The reason that people are dying in the flu season is because there are idiots who does not get a flu shot and there are also people who convince that flu shot is bad. Years of scientific endeavors wasted because someone posted that vaccines and flu shots are bad.

[Subbir]

The flu was bad, but it wasn't as bad because of the coronavirus The flu just hit America and didn't spread around the world and it had been a cure But there's no cure for this virus. The 2017-2018 flu has killed 80,000 Americans but not hysteria or pack up because it's not a contagion that will be confined to where it'll be and has not spread around the world I do not think any year has been ruined by the flu but it's getting to be ruined by the coronavirus.

[franky1]

The proof to be found would essentially only be in a court trial by jury of Covid-19/Coronavirus.

so many posts so many topics. you still dont learn
M&M reviews, inquests, peer reviews,

do you only know the script 'in a court' because thats all you could find on your cult website
how small minded you are. you cant even think of an original rebuttal or new script to explain your ignorance. the desire not to even find proof for yourself makes me wonder why do you even bother asking for any if your not even going to bother viewing any or accepting any.

stay ignorant if you want. but atleast admit to your lazyness and ignorance. be a man. admit to your failings and flaws
after all you keep saying you wish to say your a man

[BADecker]

The proof to be found would essentially only be in a court trial by jury of Covid-19/Coronavirus.

so many posts so many topics. you still dont learn
M&M reviews, inquests, peer reviews,

do you only know the script 'in a court' because thats all you could find on your cult website
how small minded you are. you cant even think of an original rebuttal or new script to explain your ignorance. the desire not to even find proof for yourself makes me wonder why do you even bother asking for any if your not even going to bother viewing any or accepting any.

stay ignorant if you want. but atleast admit to your lazyness and ignorance. be a man. admit to your failings and flaws
after all you keep saying you wish to say your a man

I have learned one great thing. You above many don't have any proof for CV.

I am starting to see that you are probably almost a quadriplegic. You have just enough use of your hands to type a lot. Odds are you were once a great thinker, but you had a stroke, and it messed you up entirely.

Jesus died on the cross for all people. The thing about it is, He probably had to do it this way simply to hold the universe in place. This means that my general prayers probably include you. But does Jesus pray for people in an individual way? And should I pray for you this way?... even once?

[Astargath]

Welp, USA 52k deaths already, Badecker's argument is going to shit fast lol

[BADecker]

Welp, USA 52k deaths already, Badecker's argument is going to shit fast lol

52K deaths from what?

Dr. Deborah Brix and the CDC both tell doctors to call it Covid-19 if they want, even if it isn't.

Tests for Covid-19 are inconclusive. All they show is that it is one of the Coronavirus family, which includes MERS and SARS... but can easily be mistaken for the common flu at times.

Similar tests have shown that millions of Americans are infected, but show no symptoms at all, and have a natural immune system resistance developed in themselves.

At first CV was a mistake.
Then it became a lie.
Now it's all a hoax.
Death happens, but it is not known to be CV, even though they say it is.

One of the best places to go to see that what I am saying is true... https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq6oOuhSx7ESreh6m9LGy6Q/videos.

[Astargath]

Welp, USA 52k deaths already, Badecker's argument is going to shit fast lol

52K deaths from what?

Dr. Deborah Brix and the CDC both tell doctors to call it Covid-19 if they want, even if it isn't.

Tests for Covid-19 are inconclusive. All they show is that it is one of the Coronavirus family, which includes MERS and SARS... but can easily be mistaken for the common flu at times.

Similar tests have shown that millions of Americans are infected, but show no symptoms at all, and have a natural immune system resistance developed in themselves.

At first CV was a mistake.
Then it became a lie.
Now it's all a hoax.
Death happens, but it is not known to be CV, even though they say it is.

One of the best places to go to see that what I am saying is true... https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq6oOuhSx7ESreh6m9LGy6Q/videos.

'Dr. Deborah Brix and the CDC both tell doctors to call it Covid-19 if they want, even if it isn't.' Where is your proof?

[franky1]

i have debunked badecker about this already.. but to save me typing ill just insert this

now lets actually deal with the fake stuff said about death certificates
when a patient enters a hospital with cough fever and breathing issues. they are swabbed and test is sent off
the patient is then given treatment for the symptoms they are presenting. and also given xrays and ct scans and bloo d samples to see if it has progressed to have damaged any organs.
patients are given treatment for all the things diagnosed.

if the eventually die. its not just shown as 'covid death' like some idiots think
the patient usually dies from a few complications and its these complications that are listed. such as hypoxia
the death certificate includes the details of the pneumonia and the covid test results and the other symptoms. and it all builds up a diagnoses that is a now known symptomology of covid death.

doctors dont just find a random patient in a morgue and write 'covid' on their toe tag

badecker just listened to bigtree act like a gorilla beating his chest talking about a document that hospitals received about covid..

but the stupid thing. the document was in that bigtree video. and the document did not even say what bigtree said.
the document said to list the cause of death by the final fatal symptom and then list all symptoms and all test/scan/blood results and include as much info as possible

yet badecker cant even be bothered to look for the facts even when the facts are in the video if you just mute the narrator and actually read the document

[BADecker]

Welp, USA 52k deaths already, Badecker's argument is going to shit fast lol

52K deaths from what?

Dr. Deborah Brix and the CDC both tell doctors to call it Covid-19 if they want, even if it isn't.

Tests for Covid-19 are inconclusive. All they show is that it is one of the Coronavirus family, which includes MERS and SARS... but can easily be mistaken for the common flu at times.

Similar tests have shown that millions of Americans are infected, but show no symptoms at all, and have a natural immune system resistance developed in themselves.

At first CV was a mistake.
Then it became a lie.
Now it's all a hoax.
Death happens, but it is not known to be CV, even though they say it is.

One of the best places to go to see that what I am saying is true... https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq6oOuhSx7ESreh6m9LGy6Q/videos.

'Dr. Deborah Brix and the CDC both tell doctors to call it Covid-19 if they want, even if it isn't.' Where is your proof?

Since there isn't any proof for any Covid-19 deaths that's available, I'll simply play the hearsay game for both you and franky1.

Check out The Hiwire - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq6oOuhSx7ESreh6m9LGy6Q/videos - and find the video of Dr. Deborah Brix saying what I said she said. You really need to see this stuff so that you realize that Coronavirus is just another flu, and the CV flu season isn't any more than any other bad flu season.

In the post above this one, franky1 says a bunch of stuff that isn't what is shown or said in the video.

[sirazimuth]

Wow...

Badecker's argument is going to shit fast lol

I never would have thought.

i have debunked badecker about this already..
...

You and the rest of science.

I hate to admit it, I don't even read his drivel anymore, it hurts my brain.

[franky1]

just one more time just because badecker has no clue and in future badecker cant use any excuses for his ignorance

his fangirl influencer showed a national statstics guidance for certifying covid death document
here it is
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf
ill highlight a few aspects
"This section on the death certificate is for reporting the sequence of conditions that led directly to death. The immediate cause of death,  which  is  the  disease  or  condition  that  directly  preceded  death  and  is  not  necessarily  the  underlying  cause  of  death  (UCOD), should be reported on line a. The conditions that led to the immediate cause of death should be reported in a logical sequence in terms of time and etiology below it. "

this shows that a death certificate is not just scribbled in as "covid"
it actually lists the symptoms the patient suffers from starting with the final symptom before death and going down the list of all symptoms that preceded it
EG hypoxia, pneumonia, ARDS

next
"Other significant conditions that contributed to the death, but are not a part of the sequence in Part I,  should be reported in Part II. Not all conditions present at the time of death have to be reported—only those conditions that actually contributed to death."

so..
if someone got impaled by an object during a road traffic accident. and was suffering from injuries linked to a road traffic accident. if they just had a covid test positive but not suffering from covid symptoms then this will not show covid association/mentions.. but would show blood loss/impalement/crushing injury
also if they had a fever related to covid. but it was not the fever that lead to death. but blood loss.. the fever wont be mentioned on part 2

next
"If COVID–19 played a role in the death, this condition should be  specified  on  the  death  certificate.  In  many  cases,  it  is  likely  that  it  will  be  the  UCOD,  as  it  can  lead  to  various  life-threatening conditions, such as pneumonia and acute respiratory distress  syndrome  (ARDS).  In  these  cases,  COVID–19  should  be  reported  on  the  lowest  line  used  in  Part  I  with  the  other  conditions to which it gave rise listed on the lines above it. "

no one dies from just having a test.. so just having a covid test does not play a role in the death.
however if the path of symptoms are cough,fever, ARDS,pneumonia. which is a path of symptoms of covid. and the covid test positive. then this would be a covid death
..

but hey.. badecker will never acknowledge bothering to read the actual document. he will just follow blindly the campfire stories of his religious cults and scammers and faux news influencers

oh by the way.
bigtree also mentions in 2018 59000 die from influenza, pneumonia .. and thats without drastic things to curb them numbers..
america is surpassing that number with the drastic things to curb the numbers. meaning numbers would be higher without the drastic social changes
but again give it a few hours and badecker will be ignorant and just return the the same ignorant/outdated/debunked scripts. pretending they are new/valid/fresh things..

which just makes him look more like an idiot

[Astargath]

Welp, USA 52k deaths already, Badecker's argument is going to shit fast lol

52K deaths from what?

Dr. Deborah Brix and the CDC both tell doctors to call it Covid-19 if they want, even if it isn't.

Tests for Covid-19 are inconclusive. All they show is that it is one of the Coronavirus family, which includes MERS and SARS... but can easily be mistaken for the common flu at times.

Similar tests have shown that millions of Americans are infected, but show no symptoms at all, and have a natural immune system resistance developed in themselves.

At first CV was a mistake.
Then it became a lie.
Now it's all a hoax.
Death happens, but it is not known to be CV, even though they say it is.

One of the best places to go to see that what I am saying is true... https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq6oOuhSx7ESreh6m9LGy6Q/videos.

'Dr. Deborah Brix and the CDC both tell doctors to call it Covid-19 if they want, even if it isn't.' Where is your proof?

Since there isn't any proof for any Covid-19 deaths that's available, I'll simply play the hearsay game for both you and franky1.

Check out The Hiwire - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq6oOuhSx7ESreh6m9LGy6Q/videos - and find the video of Dr. Deborah Brix saying what I said she said. You really need to see this stuff so that you realize that Coronavirus is just another flu, and the CV flu season isn't any more than any other bad flu season.

In the post above this one, franky1 says a bunch of stuff that isn't what is shown or said in the video.

But that's just a video, it's not proof. I asked for proof, not a silly video.

[franky1]

In the post above this one, franky1 says a bunch of stuff that isn't what is shown or said in the video.

But that's just a video, it's not proof. I asked for proof, not a silly video.

mhm.. badecker is known for this tactic
to want to describe a zebra as a banana. and says here watch a video talking about banana..
then he asks for proof of what a zebra looks like..
.. many people show him what a zebra actually looks like
then badecker says thats not what is shown in the videos he prefers.. dismisses real stuff and goes straight back to talking about a banana