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February 23, 2020, 12:44:24 PM
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I was shocked to see that.  Nowadays Bounty Report Post and Authentication Post are getting merit. I think @Hellcase and @yaroslav2302 are close to him or his alternate account. Thus, merit should not be wasted. I get the attention of seniors

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February 23, 2020, 01:00:40 PM
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Where there are no certain rules to send out merits but sending merits to this kind of posts means the sender is not really aware much about the way of handing it out.

I would not mark it as abuse if this is not in very big scale. It's much of ignorance I guess.

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February 23, 2020, 01:11:48 PM
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It doesn't happen often but this is not the first time that I have seen proof authentication or application posts getting merited. Even higher rank members do that in signature campaign applications. The giving merit to a bounty report is really shady though and that report was also submitted 2019. I'm guessing this is a case of trading merits.
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February 23, 2020, 01:16:37 PM
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There is a high chance for @Hellcase and @yaroslav2302 are alternate accounts of the user who has give merits to their bounty reports but giving merits is not enough to come into conclusion. If you could find any blockchain relation between those three accounts then they will be tagged for merit abuse.

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February 23, 2020, 02:40:57 PM
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If you could find any blockchain relation between those three accounts then they will be tagged for merit abuse.
Cheating bounty with alt account can be used as a reason to be tagged
but tagging someone because of merit abuse, it doesn't seem justified

If a DT member tags you for something stupid involving merit (ie. probably anything less than selling merit), then they're not going to be a DT member for much longer.

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February 23, 2020, 02:54:00 PM
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I think @Hellcase and @yaroslav2302 are close to him or his alternate account. Thus, merit should not be wasted. I get the attention of seniors
They are maybe Alternative maybe not. Again merit sender maybe merit seller maybe not. It is not clear to all. And no one can tag them without a clear documents.
But it is right that it’s a very shady works. Also it can be The user  just trying to know how merit system works Smiley but not sure.

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Last edit: April 24, 2020, 08:02:36 AM by YOSHIE
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How people from different countries can say Alt account.

From my understanding they are not Alt, maybe @ Aryanto28 is wrong in sending (sMerit) or intentional.

I saw their post Aryanto28 in local Indonesian while yaroslav2302 in Russian.

Aryanto28

Post Indonesia: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1081394;sa=showPosts;start=180

yaroslav2302

Post Rusian: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2595569;sa=showPosts;start=20

Hellkas, i don't know because i didn't find their post in the local language.
I am a little doubt they are Alt, or Hellkas could be Alt Aryanto28 and vice versa yaroslav2302 is Alt Hellkas. But that's without valid evidence.


get a closer look between the three of them.

Telegram Username: @nasutwerty222
Twitter Profile Link: https://twitter.com/nykassex

If I see from the telgram and twitter used by Hellkas it is clear he is Russian.

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closer (conclusion):

If you look deeper into this case, there is a strong suspicion that the possibility of Aryanto28 has been sold to Russia.
just woke up and the password changed.

https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Aryanto28



The reason: because in posts 1-9 pages Aryanto28 never posted Indonesian again, post in English.

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February 23, 2020, 03:52:50 PM
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If you could find any blockchain relation between those three accounts then they will be tagged for merit abuse.
Cheating bounty with alt account can be used as a reason to be tagged
but tagging someone because of merit abuse, it doesn't seem justified

If a DT member tags you for something stupid involving merit (ie. probably anything less than selling merit), then they're not going to be a DT member for much longer.
In the past, it happened and if anyone spending between their alt accounts got tagged but in this case, it happened only once so no one considers this as merit abuse.

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February 23, 2020, 05:18:24 PM
Last edit: July 19, 2023, 09:18:04 PM by logfiles
 #9

How people from different countries can say Alt account.

From my understanding they are not Alt, maybe @ Aryanto28 is wrong in sending (sMerit) or intentional.

I saw their post Aryanto28 in local Indonesian while yaroslav2302 in Russian.
They may not be alts but another reason is probably there is some merit selling/trading going on. The person may have tried to use small amounts of merit to avoid getting noticed but was still very foolish to merit proof of authentication posts

Nothing can surely be done about this... I have seen far worse clear cut merit abuse go unpunished



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April 24, 2020, 07:44:38 AM
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I got a PM from Hellkas asking why he was tagged for merit purchase (I tagged him).

He received 4 merit for this post:

I am surprised how quickly everyone changes their minds. Just yesterday, many were in the mood for short positions, but now everyone is saying that the bull cycle has begun.
Did you think that this could be a fake exit from the accumulation zone, and after it there will again be a fall?
A similar situation was a year ago, when the price dropped from 6,000 to 4,200, then there was a local increase, and then the price was dump to 3600.
The situations are very similar.

It's not the worst post in the world, but it is his first (and only) post in the WO thread. 99% of his prior posts are bounty reports or authentications, so I thought it was a bit weird. I looked into it and it turns out that the account sending him 9 of his 10 merits had been buying merits from a supposedly hacked account:

My account have been hijacked more than a week ago.
Some Merits seems to have been sold. Since today account is under my control again.
My apologizes.

Whether or not Hellkas is Pastrana or simply bought the merits from Pastrana is irrelevant -- the fact is they are still merits that come from Basorexia. Both Basorexia and Pastrana have a pattern of sending out just enough merits to accounts in order for them to rank up, which is also suspicious.

When looking through his ETH address history I noticed one transfer from Hellkas to user xXCactaurXCoreXx.

They've been applying for the same bounties:

GAIMIN
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5225201.msg53859393#msg53859393
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5225201.msg53852701#msg53852701

Hitmex
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5226883.msg53873266#msg53873266
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5226883.msg53873143#msg53873143

Bright Nuclear Token
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228558.msg53919314#msg53919314
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228558.msg53918795#msg53918795

Relictum Pro
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5222210.msg53978612#msg53978612
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5222210.msg53965481#msg53965481

Interestingly, xXCactaurXCoreXx seems to be ban evading.

#PROOF OF REGISTRATION
Bitcointalk Username: xXCactaurXCoreXx
Telegram Username: @fuckingantisocial
Campaigns:  Facebook, Twitter, GIF & STICKERS CAMPAIGN
facebook profile link : https://Facebook.com/Cr0ssfaith
twitter profile link : https://twitter.com/Marseldgd
ETH Wallet: 0xb153f24c413949bbbb1fb7be6610e3ad615b7569

2 Accounts Connected: thefever333,cr0ssfa1th   
thefever333 Aктивeн July 17, 2018
https://archive.ph/b7SxW

Proof of Authentication  
Campaign: Facebook, Twitter, Telegram
ERC-20 Wallet Address: 0xb153f24c413949bbbb1fb7be6610e3ad615b7569

cr0ssfa1th Autoban user May 06, 2018.

I joined airdrop.

Twitter account : https://twitter.com/fuuckantisocial
Telegram username: @fuckingantisocial
Cygnusnetwork username: cryptonir
ETH adress :0xB153F24C413949bbbb1Fb7BE6610e3Ad615B7569

I reported him for ban evasion. I don't think this is enough evidence to definitively link Hellkas to xXCactaurXCoreXx, however, as they only have that 1 ETH transaction between them (just wanted to use this post as reference for a feedback).

Somewhat oddly, I received another PM from another user that I tagged for buying merit within a few hours of the PM from Hellkas, even though I left my tags on April 4th (20 days ago) and hadn't heard from either user since.

My suspicion is that there are stronger links between the accounts mentioned in this thread and the ones mentioned in another thread by Rikafip. Feel free to investigate further.

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April 24, 2020, 09:02:37 AM
 #11

I got a PM from Hellkas asking why he was tagged for merit purchase (I tagged him).

He received 4 merit for this post:

I am surprised how quickly everyone changes their minds. Just yesterday, many were in the mood for short positions, but now everyone is saying that the bull cycle has begun.
Did you think that this could be a fake exit from the accumulation zone, and after it there will again be a fall?
A similar situation was a year ago, when the price dropped from 6,000 to 4,200, then there was a local increase, and then the price was dump to 3600.
The situations are very similar.

It's not the worst post in the world, but it is his first (and only) post in the WO thread. 99% of his prior posts are bounty reports or authentications, so I thought it was a bit weird. I looked into it and it turns out that the account sending him 9 of his 10 merits had been buying merits from a supposedly hacked account:

My account have been hijacked more than a week ago.
Some Merits seems to have been sold. Since today account is under my control again.
My apologizes.

Whether or not Hellkas is Pastrana or simply bought the merits from Pastrana is irrelevant -- the fact is they are still merits that come from Basorexia. Both Basorexia and Pastrana have a pattern of sending out just enough merits to accounts in order for them to rank up, which is also suspicious.

When looking through his ETH address history I noticed one transfer from Hellkas to user xXCactaurXCoreXx.

They've been applying for the same bounties:

GAIMIN
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5225201.msg53859393#msg53859393
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5225201.msg53852701#msg53852701

Hitmex
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5226883.msg53873266#msg53873266
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5226883.msg53873143#msg53873143

Bright Nuclear Token
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228558.msg53919314#msg53919314
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228558.msg53918795#msg53918795

Relictum Pro
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5222210.msg53978612#msg53978612
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5222210.msg53965481#msg53965481

Interestingly, xXCactaurXCoreXx seems to be ban evading.

#PROOF OF REGISTRATION
Bitcointalk Username: xXCactaurXCoreXx
Telegram Username: @fuckingantisocial
Campaigns:  Facebook, Twitter, GIF & STICKERS CAMPAIGN
facebook profile link : https://Facebook.com/Cr0ssfaith
twitter profile link : https://twitter.com/Marseldgd
ETH Wallet: 0xb153f24c413949bbbb1fb7be6610e3ad615b7569

2 Accounts Connected: thefever333,cr0ssfa1th   
thefever333 Aктивeн July 17, 2018
https://archive.ph/b7SxW

Proof of Authentication  
Campaign: Facebook, Twitter, Telegram
ERC-20 Wallet Address: 0xb153f24c413949bbbb1fb7be6610e3ad615b7569

cr0ssfa1th Autoban user May 06, 2018.

I joined airdrop.

Twitter account : https://twitter.com/fuuckantisocial
Telegram username: @fuckingantisocial
Cygnusnetwork username: cryptonir
ETH adress :0xB153F24C413949bbbb1Fb7BE6610e3Ad615B7569

I reported him for ban evasion. I don't think this is enough evidence to definitively link Hellkas to xXCactaurXCoreXx, however, as they only have that 1 ETH transaction between them (just wanted to use this post as reference for a feedback).

Somewhat oddly, I received another PM from another user that I tagged for buying merit within a few hours of the PM from Hellkas, even though I left my tags on April 4th (20 days ago) and hadn't heard from either user since.

My suspicion is that there are stronger links between the accounts mentioned in this thread and the ones mentioned in another thread by Rikafip. Feel free to investigate further.



You have trouble with your head, he is not me. I have a blog where I publish bounties in which I participate and the person with the nickname Hellkas is just my member and if so, then you will apologize to him and leave this forum


The fact that there is 1 transaction is yes, because we try to help each other



And why did you single out only this person? There are at least 3 more people whom I translated ETH and they are participating there.


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April 24, 2020, 09:05:54 AM
 #12

There is something very strange going on with the Basorexia account
Another thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5204109.msg54265133#msg54265133

A weird and wonderful web ?
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April 24, 2020, 09:39:13 AM
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You have trouble with your head, he is not me. I have a blog where I publish bounties in which I participate and the person with the nickname Hellkas is just my member and if so, then you will apologize to him and leave this forum

Well, as I said earlier, there isn't enough of a basis to assume you are the same person. I have to apologize to him and then leave the forum? Ok... Do I have to do it in that order?

Either way, you should be banned for ban evasion shortly, even if the subject is not directly related to this thread.

#PROOF OF REGISTRATION
Bitcointalk Username: xXCactaurXCoreXx
Telegram Username: @fuckingantisocial
Campaigns:  Facebook, Twitter, GIF & STICKERS CAMPAIGN
facebook profile link : https://Facebook.com/Cr0ssfaith
twitter profile link : https://twitter.com/Marseldgd
ETH Wallet: 0xb153f24c413949bbbb1fb7be6610e3ad615b7569

2 Accounts Connected: thefever333,cr0ssfa1th   
thefever333 Aктивeн July 17, 2018
https://archive.ph/b7SxW

Proof of Authentication  
Campaign: Facebook, Twitter, Telegram
ERC-20 Wallet Address: 0xb153f24c413949bbbb1fb7be6610e3ad615b7569

cr0ssfa1th Autoban user May 06, 2018.

I joined airdrop.

Twitter account : https://twitter.com/fuuckantisocial
Telegram username: @fuckingantisocial
Cygnusnetwork username: cryptonir
ETH adress :0xB153F24C413949bbbb1Fb7BE6610e3Ad615B7569

There is something very strange going on with the Basorexia account
Another thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5204109.msg54265133#msg54265133

A weird and wonderful web ?

The guy has been very, very busy. That's for sure. I actually liked him at one point, thought he had some real potential. He designed some interesting yu-gi-oh cards and at one point offered to make one for me. I think either

a. he didn't think he'd get caught selling merit, or
b. someone he knows took control of his account and used it for nefarious purposes, which is a bit more in line with his story.

Either way, he was too ambitious and rose too high too quickly. Happens occasionally around here.

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