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April 27, 2020, 01:14:18 AM
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DISCLOSURE: I don't believe any of these people to be Satoshi.



Debo Jurgen Etienne Guido - Belgium - (Copyrighted whitepaper)
Ronald Keala Kua Maria - Hawaii - Claims to be Satoshi but curiously trademarked "Bitcoin Cash"
Jörg Molt - Germany
Craig Steven Wright - Australia / United Kingdom (Copyrighted whitepaper & claims copyright over the bitcoin database)
Bilal Khalid(AKA James Caan ) - Pakistan / United Kingdom
Phil Wilson (aka Scronty) - New Zealand
Peter Benjamin -Benjamin Capital Management Group - USA (TeamSatoshi - Unsuccessfully Sued Craig Wright in the UK)
"Satoshi Nakamoto" represented by Robert
 Meyring - Meyring Law - USA (Current lawsuit in the US)
Panda Batterham - USA ?
"Satoshi Nakamoto Real" - Russia (Corresponded with "Hell Finny" <sic>)
Lance the Bali "Satoshi" (originally from Texas).

These are people that have publicly stated that they are Satoshi Nakamoto. Other than Phil Wilson who claims to have worked with Craig Wright all of them claim to have worked independent of each other.

This all started on twitter where a conversation between Arthur van Pelt, Pete Myers and Adam Back came up with a brilliant suggestion:

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They have all called each other frauds.

I would love to see a head to head debate between them chaired by
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Have I left off any notable claimants from my list ?

Any suggestions on who should be hosting the event ?
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Jörg Molt was quickly called out by his ex wife and Andreas Antonopoulos


Craig Steven Wright is discussed here

Debo Jurgen Etienne Guido discussed here

Bilal Khalid(AKA James Caan ) discussed here

Phil Wilson discussed here

Ronald Keala Kua Maria discussed here
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Love the idea of this thread, an all in on collation of faketoshis  Smiley
I don’t want to spam  up your thread , but I’ve been interested in this myself and found the US copyright website

https://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?Search_Arg=Bitcoin%3A+A+Peer-to-Peer+Electronic+Cash+System&Search_Code=TALL&PID=oyefnTa_Nuq7akCTyLQ_8zn7xtCh&SEQ=20200106132453&CNT=25&HIST=1



There appears to be 6 applications in for the whitepaper, so I can only assume that these people of claiming to be Satoshi ?

2 - applications are from Guido
1 - from CSW
1- appears to be from Ronald Keala Kua Maria
1 - from Wei Liu ?
1 - from Arthur van Pelt ?

All details are on the website and apologies if I am spamming  Smiley

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Love the idea of this thread, an all in on collation of faketoshis  Smiley
I don’t want to spam  up your thread , but I’ve been interested in this myself and found the US copyright website

https://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?Search_Arg=Bitcoin%3A+A+Peer-to-Peer+Electronic+Cash+System&Search_Code=TALL&PID=oyefnTa_Nuq7akCTyLQ_8zn7xtCh&SEQ=20200106132453&CNT=25&HIST=1



There appears to be 6 applications in for the whitepaper, so I can only assume that these people of claiming to be Satoshi ?

2 - applications are from Guido
1 - from CSW
1- appears to be from Ronald Keala Kua Maria
1 - from Wei Liu ?
1 - from Arthur van Pelt ?

All details are on the website and apologies if I am spamming  Smiley



Wei Liu and Arthur Van Pelt both registered the copyright to demonstrate how easy it is to lodge a copyright. They both claim "we are all Satoshi" rather than that they wrote the whitepaper.

https://www.coindesk.com/everyone-can-be-satoshi-wei-liu-on-contesting-craig-wrights-copyright

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Liu is a crypto entrepreneur from China and said his goal in registering the document was to point out that copyright is technically meaningless in this context. To be clear, Liu chose not to answer whether or not he is Satoshi Nakamoto when asked by CoinDesk.

He said:

“I filed it just to let people know anyone can register a copyright. Everyone can be Satoshi Nakamoto.”









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Thanks for clearing that up for me !
Wow, you are really down this rabbit hole and kudos to you  Smiley
I’m currently down a different rabbit hole at the moment , but once I’m out of it , I’ll follow you down this one and see if I can find any more relevant info for you. I’ll spam out for now and please keep investigating . I’ll watch this thread closely  Smiley
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August 21, 2020, 01:35:21 PM
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Latest amusement in the Faketoshi dramas:



Jurgen Debo battling it out with James Caan.
https://twitter.com/CaanKhalid/status/1296422143618617344


Looks like Satoshi needs $50

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August 25, 2020, 11:56:21 AM
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What do these people gain by ruining their own reputation? Roll Eyes
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What do these people gain by ruining their own reputation? Roll Eyes

Narcissistic personality disorder
Delusions of grandeur
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December 11, 2020, 06:19:33 AM
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Another Faketoshi for the list.

Lance the Bali "Satoshi" (originally from Texas).

https://news.bitcoin.com/next-satoshi-nakamoto-revealed-himself-bali/
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Jorg Molt was arrested recently so you might want to update the OP with that information.
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Might want to add Charles Hoskinson to the list:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Hoskinson

Quote below from this article, on Laura Shin's book: https://www.coindesk.com/layer2/2022/04/18/ethereums-dark-underbelly-shows-that-even-in-crypto-trust-matters/

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“The Cryptopians” puts real substance behind the crypto community’s longstanding antipathy for Charles Hoskinson, CEO of IOHK and founder of Cardano and Ethereum who was voted out of the Ethereum founding team at the same time as Chetrit. Hoskinson is convincingly depicted as a liar and manipulator of staggering boldness, bordering on sociopathy. This has allegedly included various false claims about his education and, according to Shin’s sources including Joe Lubin himself, claiming to be Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto. In crypto, sins don’t come much more cardinal than that one.

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“The Cryptopians” puts real substance behind the crypto community’s longstanding antipathy for Charles Hoskinson, CEO of IOHK and founder of Cardano and Ethereum who was voted out of the Ethereum founding team at the same time as Chetrit. Hoskinson is convincingly depicted as a liar and manipulator of staggering boldness, bordering on sociopathy. This has allegedly included various false claims about his education and, according to Shin’s sources including Joe Lubin himself, claiming to be Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto. In crypto, sins don’t come much more cardinal than that one.

You are citing an article about a book that says that Joe Lubin says that Charles Hoskinson claims to be Satoshi. I have never heard him claim to be Satoshi.  I think that is a little bit of a stretch.
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August 24, 2022, 11:20:43 AM
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More people claiming to be Satoshi :
Team Satoshi (Peter Benjamin)




"Satoshi Nakamoto" represented by Robert Meyring https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/60780822/nakamoto-v-the-united-states/


Russian Satoshi



Panda Batterham


Lance the Bali Satoshi
https://news.bitcoin.com/next-satoshi-nakamoto-revealed-himself-bali/






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