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June 06, 2020, 02:27:39 PM
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@Blacknavy was a good merit source. Psychological pressures of a person dragged him to this decision. He showed a virtuous behavior and resigned. His gap needs to be filled. Valuable messages continue to be written in Turkish section.

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June 06, 2020, 02:36:16 PM
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Wow, this is also quite subjective  Cheesy Suppose someone wants to become a source of merit, but they don't have much merit to distribute before, so their history of distributing merit seems to be empty. It means that only those who regularly receive merit can apply to become another source of merit. On the other hand, the quality of distribution is also difficult to evaluate, because according to theymos, merit is distributed according to each person's thinking, there is no real standard to evaluate it.
Well of course, its a human that's reviewing the cases, and therefore there will always be the issue of being subjective. There might be a individual reason for distributing merit, but its fairly common sense to see if someone is abusing their merit distribution or giving merit as a way of "liking" someones comment rather than giving it because its a quality post. However, the admins (or perhaps just theymos) have far more data that they can evaluate than the average user, and therefore they can piece together a strong case of why someone should be a merit source, and why they shouldn't. Plus, being subjective isn't always a bad thing. theymos probably has a good idea of how he would like merit sources to distribute their merit, as of my assumption he was the one to implement the merit system, and therefore he definitely has some sort of view of how it should work.

There quite possibly may have been cases especially in the local section where users were given the merit source title without looking at their merit spending in great details, possibly because they're one of the most active users within their local section, but I'd say that the vast majority if not all are evaluated on how much they've spent, where they spend it, as well as how much they give per post.

Its similar to how the admins select users to become staff. They look at the data that is available to them, and then approach them. Unfortunately, the fact of the matter is without gaining merit yourself, and distributing it there is no way of determining whether a user would be a good judge of quality posts, because as we all know just because a user is a good poster, doesn't mean they are a user suitable as a merit source. This doesn't necessarily mean they have a zero percent chance of becoming a merit source, it just might make it harder for them to be selected if there are other candidates with merit spending in similar sections of the forum.

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June 06, 2020, 03:52:28 PM
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there is a general idea of what quality is, and which posts were made without any thought
I got your point. But sometimes I come across posts that make me say, "how does this trash deserve merit?" But if I screamed, many people would think I was selfish, someone once said that I should not complain about how others distribute merit, so the easiest thing was to just ignore it. I still keep my point that for some people, it deserves, some people think it doesn't. A general idea is something uncertain.
Its similar to how the admins select users to become staff. They look at the data that is available to them, and then approach them. Unfortunately, the fact of the matter is without gaining merit yourself, and distributing it there is no way of determining whether a user would be a good judge of quality posts, because as we all know just because a user is a good poster, doesn't mean they are a user suitable as a merit source. This doesn't necessarily mean they have a zero percent chance of becoming a merit source, it just might make it harder for them to be selected if there are other candidates with merit spending in similar sections of the forum.
Well, I totally agree with your thoughts  Cheesy I also think if someone sends merit regularly to other people or flips through the forum posts regularly, or in other words, is a member that is active on most sections, I think it will is a criterion to select a merit source  Cheesy Anyway, it's just a curiosity   Tongue

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June 06, 2020, 05:50:19 PM
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@Blacknavy was a good merit source. Psychological pressures of a person dragged him to this decision. He showed a virtuous behavior and resigned. His gap needs to be filled. Valuable messages continue to be written in Turkish section.
I have no problem with the Turkish section getting another merit source (though it's not my decision anyway), but the current batch of applicants leaves me scratching my head as to whether they'd be the most appropriate choices.  For whatever reason, that section has some very vocal and very tribalistic members who don't seem to look at things entirely logically.

Anyway, the Turks will be fine until another merit source gets tapped for the local board (if that does in fact happen).  Given how persistent they are, my guess is that Theymos will find a replacement.

In general, we're lucky to have all the merit sources that we do.  It's not like it's a paid position, nor one that gets you any sort of thanks, praise, or even recognition.  I'm kind of surprised there haven't been more merit sources dropping out.

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June 06, 2020, 09:16:36 PM
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For now, the Turkish local board has still a few Merit sources left, I don't know all of them but at least EFS and Vispilio are active there. I don't have a complete overview but can't complain about their posting quality. In general, there is interesting content from what I've seen there when I was reading some content with Google translate a few times already.
A replacement of the previous Merit source Blacknavy would be a good idea, maybe it's also an option to split his 500 sMerit to two different users, 250 sMerit each. From what I've seen candidates could be dannybrown or Kalemder but it's only my biased point of view because I'm not a Turkish native speaker. Kalemder applied here, dannybrown didn't apply so far as I know.

Turkey is an important country for crypto and giving support to the local board is also beneficial for Bitcointalk.

I'm sure theymos will make a good decision based on posting quality, reputation and Merit distribution of each candidate.

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