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April 30, 2020, 02:46:53 PM
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Edit: I have withdrawn the flag and no longer support it; see here for details.

MicroGuy is a long-time member of the forum (since 2013) who has primarily promoted Goldcoin (GLC) through the history of his years at the forum. He hasn't been active much this year, but came back in mid April to start promoting an update to Goldcoin.

On April 23rd, he made this post, which is now deleted, but this is an archived copy of the post:

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Risking life and limb here to get the truth out. I hope the moderators will have the bravery and courage to let this post stand.

YouTube Video: The Killing of Satoshi Nakamoto

YouTube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgXrsqiUKMc&t

Thank you one and all and ESPECIALLY Cobra!

The YouTube video is now deleted, but in it he basically riffed on how Satoshi Nakamoto was a "friend" of his, as they are listed as "friends" on the P2P Foundation website. Without mentioning the name of Craig Wright business partner Dave Kleiman, he basically asserts that Satoshi was Dave Kleiman, and that Satoshi died under mysterious circumstances, "covered in feces." Kleiman did die a horrible death in April 2013, but there is zero evidence that he was Satoshi -- just some documents backdated and signed using a font by Craig Wright. He even went so far as to say the judge in the Kleiman v. Wright case ruled that the duo comprised "Satoshi," which is categorically false:



He's since deleted all posts he's made on the forum about him being a "friend" of Satoshi, but here is an quoted version of such a post:

Satoshi who friended me years ago on P2P Foundation was actually a group.

He repeated this claim in a few different posts - including one in the Goldcoin thread - and deleted all of them, but he continues to post about it on Twitter; in this example he is defending himself from the negative trusts recently placed on his account:



I notice he's also mentioned it in various other Goldcoin groups to his followers, which makes it all the more obvious that he is using his supposed "connection" to Satoshi in order to promote Goldcoin (which he has been heavily invested in for a number of years - here is a good background story on the matter).

So, is there a chance that the real Satoshi actually added MicroGuy (Greg Matthews) on P2P Foundation?

The answer is no. We know:

1. Greg Matthews wasn't "added" by Satoshi until sometime between Oct. 22nd and Dec. 23rd 2014, which can be verified by looking at the linked web archives of this page, when Satoshi's friend count jumps from 2 to 12.

2. This is years after Satoshi had gone totally silent. The last communication from Satoshi was in 2011 when he famously communicated to Mike Hearn that he "had moved on to other things."

3. Satoshi's P2P Foundation account was hacked* in early September 2014, and on September 9th the hacker posted a message using Satoshi's account on the P2P Foundation forum:

https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/satoshi-nakamotos-account-hacked/2014/09/09
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It appears that Satoshi Nakamoto’s GMX email account, which he originally used to announce Bitcoin in the P2P Foundation’s Ning forum, has been hacked. The hacker has used the account to post a warning to Satoshi in our forum...

“Dear Satoshi. Your dox, passwords and IP addresses are being sold on the darknet. Apparently you didn’t configure Tor properly and your IP leaked when you used your email account sometime in 2010. You are not safe. You need to get out of where you are as soon as possible before these people harm you. Thank you for inventing Bitcoin.”

The hacker then left a Pastebin post saying he would release his data on Satoshi if 25 BTC was sent to his address, and even threatened theymos on the same day.

Given the contents of the P2P Foundation post, it is quite obvious that it was not the Satoshi who was in control of the account in September 2014, and therefore it was not the Satoshi who added Greg Matthews (MicroGuy) in October-December 2014.

TL;DR: MicroGuy made a false claim that he was friends with Satoshi Nakamoto, who he says "friended" him on the P2P Foundation forum, in order to attempt to pump Goldcoin.

Because this behavior is highly untrustworthy, I think people should be warned against investing in Goldcoin on a false premise that he was actually acquaintances with Satoshi (he was not). I have opened a flag on MicroGuy which is here.


*it could very well be that the satoshin@gmx.com address had simply expired and the "hacker" re-registered it, performed a password reset on Satoshi's P2P Foundation account, and logged into it - in which case technically nothing was "hacked" - somebody will have to correct me if this is wrong... This might have originally taken place before March 7, 2014, as that was the date that the "I am not Dorian Nakamoto" message was also left by whoever was in control of Satoshi's account at the time. What is clear is that whoever had it by September 2014 was NOT Satoshi.

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April 30, 2020, 03:11:53 PM
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Yeah, never trusted the guy after seeing the amount of censorship on his shitty altcoin thread - currently 661 posts by 22 users deleted.

China has less censorship. Syscoin not though.....lol

PIA went evil: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203968.msg53160131#msg53160131 Unofficial & Uncensored SYSCOIN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4748031.0    Do not trust Yobit/HitBTC/BiteBTC/coinsbit/p2pb2b/Mercatox/C-cex/Poloniex/WEX/KuCoin/LiveCoin/TheRockTrading/Bitfinex/ADAB/Okex/TradeSatoshi/Gate.io/Changelly/Freewallet.org/crex24 scam exchanges or ICO's by known scammers like HashCoins/Ambisafe/Bountyhive - they WILL scam you! Use diligence & research. Buy coins, sell coins - don't invest in stupid shit. If your questions aren't answered - don't touch it.
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April 30, 2020, 03:50:52 PM
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in order to promote Goldcoin (which he has been heavily invested in for a number of years - here is a good background story on the matter).

I knew goldcoin was scammy, but dammmnnnn. I didn't previously know the full scope of it.
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April 30, 2020, 04:15:54 PM
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It's true I was claiming to be friends with Satoshi on the P2P Foundation website.

However, after spending a few hours today researching the hacking episode that occurred in 2014, I've learned that most likely his account was hacked several months before he added me as a friend later that same year.



https://p2pfoundation.ning.com/friends/SatoshiNakamoto

In light of these facts, I have unfriended Satoshi Nakamoto on the P2P Foundation website and stand corrected.

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April 30, 2020, 04:22:36 PM
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Yeah, never trusted the guy after seeing the amount of censorship on his shitty altcoin thread - currently 661 posts by 22 users deleted.

China has less censorship. Syscoin not though.....lol
Damn! And the stats shown in the deletions are only from the time Theymos Announced self-moderated topic statistics. The number of deleted replies must be way more than that provided the thread has been over 6 years old  Grin

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April 30, 2020, 04:24:50 PM
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Yeah, never trusted the guy after seeing the amount of censorship on his shitty altcoin thread - currently 661 posts by 22 users deleted.

China has less censorship. Syscoin not though.....lol
Damn! And the stats shown in the deletions are only from the time Theymos Announced self-moderated topic statistics. The number of deleted replies must be way more than that provided the thread has been over 6 years old  Grin

If you have ever moderated a thread in that sub-forum, you'd understand. No one in the community is being censored. Would love to have the staff here review the deletions and make them available. Most of them were from a character calling himself GreatOrchid and creating multiple accounts.

(fyi, I've had three of my posts deleted on this forum this week. and none of them were warranted.)
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It's true I was claiming to be friends with Satoshi on the P2P Foundation website.

However, after spending a few hours today researching the hacking episode that occurred in 2014, I've learned that most likely his account was hacked several months before he added me as a friend later that same year.

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In light of these facts, I have unfriended Satoshi Nakamoto on the P2P Foundation website and stand corrected.

Thanks for your honesty and quick resolution. Because you have demonstrated a willingness to be reasonable I am removing support for the flag as it was based on this claim.

(fyi, I've had three of my posts deleted on this forum this week. and none of them were warranted.)

I tried to tell you in the other thread that posting two posts in a row isn't allowed. Simply edit your last post with your new thoughts to avoid them being deleted.

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April 30, 2020, 04:29:38 PM
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It's true I was claiming to be friends with Satoshi on the P2P Foundation website.

However, after spending a few hours today researching the hacking episode that occurred in 2014, I've learned that most likely his account was hacked several months before he added me as a friend later that same year.

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In light of these facts, I have unfriended Satoshi Nakamoto on the P2P Foundation website and stand corrected.

Thanks for your honesty and quick resolution. Because you have demonstrated a willingness to be reasonable I am removing support for the flag as it was based on this claim.

Thank you. I apologize for my error and will work on better researching future statements.
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April 30, 2020, 05:12:40 PM
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In light of these facts, I have unfriended Satoshi Nakamoto on the P2P Foundation website and stand corrected.

And what about the issues raised here?  I'll be willing to edit my trust rating regarding your withdrawn claims about satoshi, but I'll need to see some very convincing evidence that your altcoin is not a scam before I can consider removing the negative trust.

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April 30, 2020, 06:46:57 PM
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In light of these facts, I have unfriended Satoshi Nakamoto on the P2P Foundation website and stand corrected.

And what about the issues raised here?  I'll be willing to edit my trust rating regarding your withdrawn claims about satoshi, but I'll need to see some very convincing evidence that your altcoin is not a scam before I can consider removing the negative trust.

This blog post was addressed in 2013 by our then lead developer in the following thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=231834.msg3289325#msg3289325

The blog author was a serial coin creator who made coins in direct competition with Goldcoin.
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In light of these facts, I have unfriended Satoshi Nakamoto on the P2P Foundation website and stand corrected.

And what about the issues raised here?  I'll be willing to edit my trust rating regarding your withdrawn claims about satoshi, but I'll need to see some very convincing evidence that your altcoin is not a scam before I can consider removing the negative trust.

This blog post was addressed in 2013 by our then lead developer in the following thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=231834.msg3289325#msg3289325

The blog author was a serial coin creator who made coins in direct competition with Goldcoin.

Having considered it carefully for the last few hours, I'm going to replace the negative feedback with a neutral one.  I'm still deeply suspicious and don't find your recent behaviour in any way trustworthy, but with regard to the author of that blog post, it does appear to be a case of your word versus theirs. 

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In light of these facts, I have unfriended Satoshi Nakamoto on the P2P Foundation website and stand corrected.

And what about the issues raised here?  I'll be willing to edit my trust rating regarding your withdrawn claims about satoshi, but I'll need to see some very convincing evidence that your altcoin is not a scam before I can consider removing the negative trust.

This blog post was addressed in 2013 by our then lead developer in the following thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=231834.msg3289325#msg3289325

The blog author was a serial coin creator who made coins in direct competition with Goldcoin.

Having considered it carefully for the last few hours, I'm going to replace the negative feedback with a neutral one.  I'm still deeply suspicious and don't find your recent behaviour in any way trustworthy, but with regard to the author of that blog post, it does appear to be a case of your word versus theirs.  


Thanks. I've never made any knowingly false claims on this forum and I've never scammed anyone in this industry. Nice to see flags and feedback being updated after due diligence is done.

A good bulk of my work in cryptocurrency has been educating and helping others. One example was our Cryptsy Community Relief Project where we returned billions of coins to communities who lost funds after the exchange hack.

https://www.goldcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3789.0

And of course, my opinions are just that. But I see no reason to begin each sentence with "In my opinion." That should be assumed by the reader.
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A good bulk of my work in cryptocurrency has been educating and helping others

Just be aware of the fine line between education and indoctrination.  You are welcome to your opinions, however nutty I might find them, but be careful about how you express them.  Particularly when it comes to topics around satoshi.

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Edit: I have withdrawn the flag and no longer support it; see here for details.

You really are an idiot, nutildah. 
(...and to think @suchmoon gifted you seven merits for withdrawing your flag, or was it to because you created the flag?)




Thank you. I apologize for my error and will work on better researching future statements.

Hi @MicroGuy - How're they hanging?  Stayin' Safe during the Covid Lockdown?

Flag Opposed.

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Edit: I have withdrawn the flag and no longer support it; see here for details.

You really are an idiot, nutildah. 
(...and to think @suchmoon gifted you seven merits for withdrawing your flag, or was it to because you created the flag?)




Thank you. I apologize for my error and will work on better researching future statements.

Hi @MicroGuy - How're they hanging?  Stayin' Safe during the Covid Lockdown?

Flag Opposed.

So far so good! Great to hear from you, hope you are well old friend.
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May 02, 2020, 04:25:12 AM
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You really are an idiot, nutildah. 

Care to expand on this? I'd be happy to help correct your misunderstanding(s).

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May 05, 2020, 02:57:16 AM
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Isn't this the same guy that got a ton of alts from cryptsy and gave them back for free to their communities?

Doesn't strike me as a scammer or untrustworthy at all.

Gold coin is less of a scam than 99.99% of alts. Not that I would waste any bitcoin on it but still was never scam.
Guy is a crypto enthusiast 100% more than the chipmixer spammers here to milk the board pushing double standards.  

Probably done more for crypto and is more known in crypto than everyone else on DT with a couple of exceptions


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May 05, 2020, 09:16:15 AM
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Before we look at the one being accused/attacked, perhaps it would be better if we look at who the accusers are:




Isn't this the same guy that got a ton of alts from cryptsy and gave them back for free to their communities?

Doesn't strike me as a scammer or untrustworthy at all.

Gold coin is less of a scam than 99.99% of alts. Not that I would waste any bitcoin on it but still was never scam.
Guy is a crypto enthusiast 100% more than the chipmixer spammers here to milk the board pushing double standards.  

Probably done more for crypto and is more known in crypto than everyone else on DT with a couple of exceptions

MicroGuy doesn't appear to be one to carry issues against others:

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Trust list for: MicroGuy (Trust: +0 / =1 / -3) (11 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-05-02_Sat_05.02h)
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MicroGuy Trusts these users' judgement:
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MicroGuy Distrusts these users' judgement:
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MicroGuy's judgement is Trusted by:
1. AZIZ1977 (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

~MicroGuy's judgement is Distrusted by:
1. DooMAD (Trust: neutral) (547 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. IconFirm (Trust: +2 / =2 / -0) (58 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. NEW NotATether (Trust: neutral) (123 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)


Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
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while interestingly enough "notatether" seems to have cranked up their trust DT trust list just to game MicroGuy (and a few others):

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Trust list for: NotATether (Trust: neutral) (123 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-05-02_Sat_05.02h)
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NotATether Trusts these users' judgement:
1. theymos (Trust: +28 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (56) 6792 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. gmaxwell (Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (17) 2552 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. OgNasty (Trust: +87 / =3 / -4) (DT1! (12) 846 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. NEW Vod (Trust: +26 / =2 / -5) (1524 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. DannyHamilton (Trust: +16 / =0 / -0) (725 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. philipma1957 (Trust: +25 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (17) 1301 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. NEW ibminer (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 773 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. Lauda (Trust: +35 / =5 / -3) (1580 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. NEW hilariousandco (Trust: +18 / =3 / -0) (DT1! (33) 781 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. NEW Avirunes (Trust: +11 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 331 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
11. suchmoon (Trust: +14 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (29) 4069 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. nutildah (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 2184 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. NEW Zepher (Trust: +34 / =4 / -0) (96 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
14. NEW mocacinno (Trust: neutral) (1271 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
15. NEW SyGambler (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 594 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
16. LoyceV (Trust: +27 / =2 / -0) (5209 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
17. NEW DarkStar_ (Trust: +49 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (28) 1331 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
18. NEW Lutpin (Trust: +33 / =2 / -1) (853 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
19. marlboroza (Trust: +14 / =2 / -0) (1471 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
20. Lafu (Trust: +9 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (9) 954 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
21. JollyGood (Trust: +12 / =1 / -1) (DT1! (0) 616 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
22. NEW o_e_l_e_o (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (13) 4037 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
23. NEW iasenko (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (14) 1893 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
24. NEW coinlocket$ (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (18) 1217 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
25. NEW morvillz7z (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 1247 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
26. DireWolfM14 (Trust: +20 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (Cool 1648 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
27. NEW YOSHIE (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (534 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

NotATether Distrusts these users' judgement:
1. ~TECSHARE (Trust: +49 / =6 / -2) (DT1! (2) 847 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. NEW ~tvbcof (Trust: neutral) (98 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. ~Tomatocage (Trust: +18 / =4 / -0) (208 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. NEW ~QuiveringGibbage (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (15 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. NEW ~MicroGuy (Trust: +0 / =1 / -3) (11 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. ~Timelord2067 (Trust: +8 / =6 / -0) (DT1 (-16) 416 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. NEW ~aTriz (Trust: +10 / =2 / -5) (167 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. NEW ~BADecker (Trust: neutral) (171 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. NEW ~mindrust (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (979 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. NEW ~RawDog (Trust: awaiting update) (20 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
11. ~andulolika (Trust: #  +1 / =1 / -3) (22 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. ~Quickseller (Trust: #  +18 / =6 / -17) (890 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. Removed ~TwitchySeal (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (601 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. ~digaran (Trust: +0 / =1 / -3) (113 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
14. ~aliashraf (Trust: neutral) (592 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
15. NEW ~nullius (Trust: +4 / =2 / -1) (1574 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
16. ~hacker1001101001 (Trust: #  +4 / =4 / -3) (276 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
17. Removed ~Zin-Zang (Trust: +0 / =1 / -5) (11 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
17. ~Khaos77 (Trust: +0 / =0 / -3) (72 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)


NotATether's judgement is Trusted by:
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~NotATether's judgement is Distrusted by:
1. andulolika (Trust: #  +1 / =1 / -3) (22 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)



Trust list: backscratchers: users agree, they trust or distrust each other.
Trust list: backstabbers: users disagree, one user trust the other, while the other distrust him.


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May 05, 2020, 10:41:42 AM
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while interestingly enough "notatether" seems to have cranked up their trust DT trust list just to game MicroGuy (and a few others):

More interestingly NotATether's trust list looks totally based on some conspiracy too me and aimed towards having DT Crawling up motives. It even seems odd to see just 5 months of journey here taught NotATether too much about creating a biased trust list. Looks like an alt of somebody here who likes walls of text !

Intresting !

NotATether Distrusts these users' judgement:

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15. NEW ~nullius (Trust: +4 / =2 / -1) (1574 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
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May 05, 2020, 11:04:28 AM
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The issue has already been resolved in the most positive way possible.

If you guys want to drone on about conspiracy theories, do it in your own thread(s).

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