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September 25, 2020, 11:47:29 AM
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So from further reading, it doesn't look like I need to change the distances, as they will be in the same range with same jumps. I would just need to redo the private keys (right side) to equal new pub being searched for. How to do?
After more reading and researching and taking samples from Etar's reconstructor, apparently all I have to do, to tame wilds, is to subtract range from wild's priv/xpub coord.  Leave distances alone, subtract range (which is odd because it will all be same range) and bam, new tamed wilds.
Edit: actually offset previous private key - start range.
Example: if previous search was for 8F400000000 and you want to tame the wilds for that search and search for a new pubkey in same range; take 8F400000000 - start range of 80000000000 = F400000000 ; now add that to previous wilds priv/pub xcoord


So are you trying to merge different ranges to the same public key? If yes did it work?
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September 25, 2020, 12:11:46 PM
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So from further reading, it doesn't look like I need to change the distances, as they will be in the same range with same jumps. I would just need to redo the private keys (right side) to equal new pub being searched for. How to do?
After more reading and researching and taking samples from Etar's reconstructor, apparently all I have to do, to tame wilds, is to subtract range from wild's priv/xpub coord.  Leave distances alone, subtract range (which is odd because it will all be same range) and bam, new tamed wilds.
Edit: actually offset previous private key - start range.
Example: if previous search was for 8F400000000 and you want to tame the wilds for that search and search for a new pubkey in same range; take 8F400000000 - start range of 80000000000 = F400000000 ; now add that to previous wilds priv/pub xcoord


So are you trying to merge different ranges to the same public key? If yes did it work?
No, I am trying to reuse every wild file (taming the wilds) for next, new key in the same search range.
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Last edit: October 17, 2020, 10:27:35 AM by alevlaslo
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please tell me the settings for the richest address with a known public key for 1060 3GB

and how many years will it take to calculate the key? Smiley

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October 17, 2020, 12:44:18 PM
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I only know the address and public key, and I want to use them to calculate the private key

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October 17, 2020, 02:05:53 PM
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I only know the address and public key, and I want to use them to calculate the private key

Run the program and you will see the calculation.
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October 19, 2020, 11:30:54 AM
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Hi,
Is there a library of y**2 = x**3 +7  working with GPU?
I don't know how to use C.
I have some functions in Python and it runs very slow compared to C.

The sage I want to do with the GPU is as follows
Code:
Pr = 115792089237316195423570985008687907853269984665640564039457584007908834671663

E = EllipticCurve (GF (P), [0,7])
N = E.order ()

G = E(55066263022277343669578718895168534326250603453777594175500187360389116729240,32670510020758816978083085130507043184471273380659243275938904335757337482424) # on E

T = E(26864879445837655118481716049217967286489564259939711339119540571911158650839,29571359081268663540055655726653840143920402820693420787986280659961264797165) # on E

numInt = 5646546546563131314723897429834729834798237429837498237498237489273948728934798237489723489723984729837489237498237498237498237498273493729847

numMod = numInt %N

numInv = pow(numMod ,N-2,N) # detail -> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/59234775/how-to-calculate-2-to-the-power-of-a-large-number-modulo-another-large-number


numMod * G
numMod * T

(T-G) * numInv



print (5*T)
print (2*G)

print (numMod * G)
print (numMod * (-G))

print (numMod * T)
print ((numMod-3) * (T-G))


Do you have any suggestions? What should I do ?
I wrote my question here because it is indirectly related to this project. Please forgive.

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I have some functions in Python and it runs very slow compared to C.

The sage I want to do with the GPU is as follows
Code:
Pr = 115792089237316195423570985008687907853269984665640564039457584007908834671663

E = EllipticCurve (GF (P), [0,7])
N = E.order ()

G = E(55066263022277343669578718895168534326250603453777594175500187360389116729240,32670510020758816978083085130507043184471273380659243275938904335757337482424) # on E

T = E(26864879445837655118481716049217967286489564259939711339119540571911158650839,29571359081268663540055655726653840143920402820693420787986280659961264797165) # on E

numInt = 5646546546563131314723897429834729834798237429837498237498237489273948728934798237489723489723984729837489237498237498237498237498273493729847

numMod = numInt %N

numInv = pow(numMod ,N-2,N) # detail -> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/59234775/how-to-calculate-2-to-the-power-of-a-large-number-modulo-another-large-number


numMod * G
numMod * T

(T-G) * numInv



print (5*T)
print (2*G)

print (numMod * G)
print (numMod * (-G))

print (numMod * T)
print ((numMod-3) * (T-G))


Do you have any suggestions? What should I do ?
I wrote my question here because it is indirectly related to this project. Please forgive.

Hi! The slowest part in your python is inverse function. Try to implement gmpy2 inverse function (included in gmpy2) - it is C-based and very fast:

https://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/#gmpy

You can find the details here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5245379.msg55214449#msg55214449

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October 19, 2020, 03:36:06 PM
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I have some functions in Python and it runs very slow compared to C.

The sage I want to do with the GPU is as follows
Code:
Pr = 115792089237316195423570985008687907853269984665640564039457584007908834671663

E = EllipticCurve (GF (P), [0,7])
N = E.order ()

G = E(55066263022277343669578718895168534326250603453777594175500187360389116729240,32670510020758816978083085130507043184471273380659243275938904335757337482424) # on E

T = E(26864879445837655118481716049217967286489564259939711339119540571911158650839,29571359081268663540055655726653840143920402820693420787986280659961264797165) # on E

numInt = 5646546546563131314723897429834729834798237429837498237498237489273948728934798237489723489723984729837489237498237498237498237498273493729847

numMod = numInt %N

numInv = pow(numMod ,N-2,N) # detail -> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/59234775/how-to-calculate-2-to-the-power-of-a-large-number-modulo-another-large-number


numMod * G
numMod * T

(T-G) * numInv



print (5*T)
print (2*G)

print (numMod * G)
print (numMod * (-G))

print (numMod * T)
print ((numMod-3) * (T-G))


Do you have any suggestions? What should I do ?
I wrote my question here because it is indirectly related to this project. Please forgive.

Hi! The slowest part in your python is inverse function. Try to implement gmpy2 inverse function (included in gmpy2) - it is C-based and very fast:

https://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/#gmpy

You can find the details here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5245379.msg55214449#msg55214449

When using Python, I use FastEcdsa(https://github.com/AntonKueltz/fastecdsa) library and mathematics similar to Sage. But can I do the math faster? I want to understand.
The FastEcdsa Library is fast, but I don't know if it uses the gmpy2 you suggested. My python script uses 17% of the CPU as a result. I wanted to write with Anaconda (for GPU), but I could not find a gpu running as fast as C or I could not.

Thank you MrFreeDragon .

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October 20, 2020, 11:37:44 AM
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I have some functions in Python and it runs very slow compared to C.

The sage I want to do with the GPU is as follows
Code:
Pr = 115792089237316195423570985008687907853269984665640564039457584007908834671663

E = EllipticCurve (GF (P), [0,7])
N = E.order ()

G = E(55066263022277343669578718895168534326250603453777594175500187360389116729240,32670510020758816978083085130507043184471273380659243275938904335757337482424) # on E

T = E(26864879445837655118481716049217967286489564259939711339119540571911158650839,29571359081268663540055655726653840143920402820693420787986280659961264797165) # on E

numInt = 5646546546563131314723897429834729834798237429837498237498237489273948728934798237489723489723984729837489237498237498237498237498273493729847

numMod = numInt %N

numInv = pow(numMod ,N-2,N) # detail -> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/59234775/how-to-calculate-2-to-the-power-of-a-large-number-modulo-another-large-number


numMod * G
numMod * T

(T-G) * numInv



print (5*T)
print (2*G)

print (numMod * G)
print (numMod * (-G))

print (numMod * T)
print ((numMod-3) * (T-G))


Do you have any suggestions? What should I do ?
I wrote my question here because it is indirectly related to this project. Please forgive.

Hi! The slowest part in your python is inverse function. Try to implement gmpy2 inverse function (included in gmpy2) - it is C-based and very fast:

https://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/#gmpy

You can find the details here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5245379.msg55214449#msg55214449

When using Python, I use FastEcdsa(https://github.com/AntonKueltz/fastecdsa) library and mathematics similar to Sage. But can I do the math faster? I want to understand.
The FastEcdsa Library is fast, but I don't know if it uses the gmpy2 you suggested. My python script uses 17% of the CPU as a result. I wanted to write with Anaconda (for GPU), but I could not find a gpu running as fast as C or I could not.

Thank you MrFreeDragon .

No. you can't be faster then GPU on your CPU.
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October 21, 2020, 11:38:18 AM
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I have some functions in Python and it runs very slow compared to C.

The sage I want to do with the GPU is as follows
Code:
Pr = 115792089237316195423570985008687907853269984665640564039457584007908834671663

E = EllipticCurve (GF (P), [0,7])
N = E.order ()

G = E(55066263022277343669578718895168534326250603453777594175500187360389116729240,32670510020758816978083085130507043184471273380659243275938904335757337482424) # on E

T = E(26864879445837655118481716049217967286489564259939711339119540571911158650839,29571359081268663540055655726653840143920402820693420787986280659961264797165) # on E

numInt = 5646546546563131314723897429834729834798237429837498237498237489273948728934798237489723489723984729837489237498237498237498237498273493729847

numMod = numInt %N

numInv = pow(numMod ,N-2,N) # detail -> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/59234775/how-to-calculate-2-to-the-power-of-a-large-number-modulo-another-large-number


numMod * G
numMod * T

(T-G) * numInv



print (5*T)
print (2*G)

print (numMod * G)
print (numMod * (-G))

print (numMod * T)
print ((numMod-3) * (T-G))


Do you have any suggestions? What should I do ?
I wrote my question here because it is indirectly related to this project. Please forgive.

Hi! The slowest part in your python is inverse function. Try to implement gmpy2 inverse function (included in gmpy2) - it is C-based and very fast:

https://www.lfd.uci.edu/~gohlke/pythonlibs/#gmpy

You can find the details here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5245379.msg55214449#msg55214449

When using Python, I use FastEcdsa(https://github.com/AntonKueltz/fastecdsa) library and mathematics similar to Sage. But can I do the math faster? I want to understand.
The FastEcdsa Library is fast, but I don't know if it uses the gmpy2 you suggested. My python script uses 17% of the CPU as a result. I wanted to write with Anaconda (for GPU), but I could not find a gpu running as fast as C or I could not.

Thank you MrFreeDragon .

No. you can't be faster then GPU on your CPU.
if i explain your word in easy example commands for new gpu based develop application/repo, by jean luc or other developer, could be develop, or if any one know already developed can post links and refferance

here are some example aspected commands
./vs-pub -c  -gpu -input in.txt -output out.txt -add 0250863AD64A87AE8A2FE83C1AF1A8403CB53F53E486D8511DAD8A04887E5B2352 #pubkey
./vs-pub -c  -gpu -input in.txt -output out.txt -mul 123456789 # its privatekey in num (not hex)
./vs-pub -c  -gpu -input in.txt -output out.txt -sub 0250863AD64A87AE8A2FE83C1AF1A8403CB53F53E486D8511DAD8A04887E5B2352 #pubkey
./vs-pub -c  -gpu -input in.txt -output out.txt -sub 0250863AD64A87AE8A2FE83C1AF1A8403CB53F53E486D8511DAD8A04887E5B2352 -r (reverse like
02508... pubkey substract to all listed pubkey inside in.txt
-c is compressed pubkey
-u is uncompressed pubkey
-input is load of compressed/uncompressed pubkeys list
-output is results output to file
-r is reverse of sub ( listed pubkey in command minus(-) in.txt (pubkeys)

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Thanks brainless

The reason I chose Jean_Luc's project
it can run its own uint_64 (own integer class) with GPU, I'm trying to understand this issue.

Source code includes AddDircet, DoubleDirect and ComputePublicKey (G * int). But EccMultipy (Point x int) does not exist.

I was just in the beginning, I guess this is not the right place to discuss. But even if I only use CPU it is much faster than python. I don't know if it is with a GPU.

I'm not sure what I'm learning, I am not aware of C or C ++ right now, for now (:

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October 23, 2020, 10:59:41 AM
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Thanks brainless

The reason I chose Jean_Luc's project
it can run its own uint_64 (own integer class) with GPU, I'm trying to understand this issue.

Source code includes AddDircet, DoubleDirect and ComputePublicKey (G * int). But EccMultipy (Point x int) does not exist.

I was just in the beginning, I guess this is not the right place to discuss. But even if I only use CPU it is much faster than python. I don't know if it is with a GPU.

I'm not sure what I'm learning, I am not aware of C or C ++ right now, for now (:

" ComputePublicKey (G * int). But EccMultipy (Point x int) does not exist. "

G = point
G * int = its eccmultiply (Point x int)

only developer need to design as per above command for easy input/output at gpu work, let see who design it for community

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October 23, 2020, 08:12:46 PM
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Thanks brainless

The reason I chose Jean_Luc's project
it can run its own uint_64 (own integer class) with GPU, I'm trying to understand this issue.

Source code includes AddDircet, DoubleDirect and ComputePublicKey (G * int). But EccMultipy (Point x int) does not exist.

I was just in the beginning, I guess this is not the right place to discuss. But even if I only use CPU it is much faster than python. I don't know if it is with a GPU.

I'm not sure what I'm learning, I am not aware of C or C ++ right now, for now (:

" ComputePublicKey (G * int) (G * int). But EccMultipy (Point x int) does not exist. "

G = point
G * int = its eccmultiply (Point x int)

only developer need to design as per above command for easy input/output at gpu work, let see who design it for community

JLuc code  

Pubkey = ComputePublicKey (int); (G in this funciton, and G has some hash algroithm)

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Is it possible to control -2**35 to 2**35  point operation in 3 seconds on CPU?

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Thanks brainless

The reason I chose Jean_Luc's project
it can run its own uint_64 (own integer class) with GPU, I'm trying to understand this issue.

Source code includes AddDircet, DoubleDirect and ComputePublicKey (G * int). But EccMultipy (Point x int) does not exist.

I was just in the beginning, I guess this is not the right place to discuss. But even if I only use CPU it is much faster than python. I don't know if it is with a GPU.

I'm not sure what I'm learning, I am not aware of C or C ++ right now, for now (:

" ComputePublicKey (G * int) (G * int). But EccMultipy (Point x int) does not exist. "

G = point
G * int = its eccmultiply (Point x int)

only developer need to design as per above command for easy input/output at gpu work, let see who design it for community

JLuc code  

Pubkey = ComputePublicKey (int); (G in this funciton, and G has some hash algroithm)

brainless

Is it possible to control -2**35 to 2**35  point operation in 3 seconds on CPU?


few sec on gpu

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Thanks brainless

The reason I chose Jean_Luc's project
it can run its own uint_64 (own integer class) with GPU, I'm trying to understand this issue.

Source code includes AddDircet, DoubleDirect and ComputePublicKey (G * int). But EccMultipy (Point x int) does not exist.

I was just in the beginning, I guess this is not the right place to discuss. But even if I only use CPU it is much faster than python. I don't know if it is with a GPU.

I'm not sure what I'm learning, I am not aware of C or C ++ right now, for now (:

" ComputePublicKey (G * int) (G * int). But EccMultipy (Point x int) does not exist. "

G = point
G * int = its eccmultiply (Point x int)

only developer need to design as per above command for easy input/output at gpu work, let see who design it for community

JLuc code  

Pubkey = ComputePublicKey (int); (G in this funciton, and G has some hash algroithm)

brainless

Is it possible to control -2**35 to 2**35  point operation in 3 seconds on CPU?


few sec on gpu

so I want to test a GPU-powered ECC operation with the GPU running at full performance. I have a few studies that I have tested with Sage,
I'm looking for a library that works with GPU where I can create functions and loops it in C or C ++.

Thanks for your interest brainless

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Thanks brainless

The reason I chose Jean_Luc's project
it can run its own uint_64 (own integer class) with GPU, I'm trying to understand this issue.

Source code includes AddDircet, DoubleDirect and ComputePublicKey (G * int). But EccMultipy (Point x int) does not exist.

I was just in the beginning, I guess this is not the right place to discuss. But even if I only use CPU it is much faster than python. I don't know if it is with a GPU.

I'm not sure what I'm learning, I am not aware of C or C ++ right now, for now (:

" ComputePublicKey (G * int) (G * int). But EccMultipy (Point x int) does not exist. "

G = point
G * int = its eccmultiply (Point x int)

only developer need to design as per above command for easy input/output at gpu work, let see who design it for community

JLuc code  

Pubkey = ComputePublicKey (int); (G in this funciton, and G has some hash algroithm)

brainless

Is it possible to control -2**35 to 2**35  point operation in 3 seconds on CPU?


few sec on gpu

so I want to test a GPU-powered ECC operation with the GPU running at full performance. I have a few studies that I have tested with Sage,
I'm looking for a library that works with GPU where I can create functions and loops it in C or C ++.

Thanks for your interest brainless

you need to wait, for Jluc , maybe he come with some free time and mood, to create repo for community, where like above command for point multiplication at GPU
btw all community members read our chats, but they know best gpu developer and understand technology is Jluc and all will wait for his reply regading this subject,
Bitcrack developer brichard also can develop GPU based Point multiplication, but i feel he is no more interested for community to help due to some reason

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October 27, 2020, 12:54:21 PM
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hello all
still no news from zeiler and Jluc, long time silent, can they confirm, what % work left from there side, and any new development, we little discus about point multiplication at gpu powered, still no comment and concern shown by Jluc and other developer, can we hear some news about level of finding puzzle 120bit

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October 28, 2020, 01:48:48 PM
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I have a CPU, does 256 bit work? I need the full range to be a small probability of finding the key in a short time if I lucky

CPU? ehhhh

Dude, you have no idea how much 'luck' you will need. On the full big range this method is almost this same like randomly picking the numbers from 1 to FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFE BAAE DCE6 AF48 A03B BFD2 5E8C D036 4140 and checking if you hit.

You think you still want to try?
Take 64bit puzzle and try to find the key - just throw 64 times coin and check if you find the key.
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November 06, 2020, 06:40:22 PM
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what does the letter B mean? Appeared a day later
It's only a text artifact because of the previously longer line [2.0/4.0MB].
Why are you searching this address?
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November 13, 2020, 02:27:21 AM
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Ok ? the best for 2080 CX ?

Code:
C:\Users\plex\Desktop\k>Kangaroo.exe -t 0 -gpu -ws -w save.work -wi 60 -o k.txt 120.txt
Kangaroo v2.2
Start:800000000000000000000000000000
Stop :FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Keys :1
Number of CPU thread: 0
Range width: 2^119
Jump Avg distance: 2^58.98
Number of kangaroos: 2^20.52
Suggested DP: 36
Expected operations: 2^60.61
Expected RAM: 990.0MB
DP size: 36 [0xFFFFFFFFF0000000]
GPU: GPU #0 GeForce RTX 2080 (46x64 cores) Grid(92x128) (122.0 MB used)
SolveKeyGPU Thread GPU#0: creating kangaroos...
SolveKeyGPU Thread GPU#0: 2^20.52 kangaroos [8.3s]
[896.72 MK/s][GPU 896.72 MK/s][Count 2^35.24][Dead 0][51s (Avg 62.2988y)][2.0/4.0MB]
SaveWork: save.work................done [140.0 MB] [01s] Thu Nov 12 23:18:05 2020
[900.67 MK/s][GPU 900.67 MK/s][Count 2^36.34][Dead 0][01:52 (Avg 62.0259y)][2.0/4.0MB]
SaveWork: save.work................done [140.0 MB] [01s] Thu Nov 12 23:19:06 2020
[899.76 MK/s][GPU 899.76 MK/s][Count 2^36.95][Dead 0][02:52 (Avg 62.0887y)][2.0/4.0MB]
SaveWork: save.work................done [140.0 MB] [01s] Thu Nov 12 23:20:06 2020
[896.86 MK/s][GPU 896.86 MK/s][Count 2^37.39][Dead 0][03:53 (Avg 62.289y)][2.0/4.0MB]
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