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November 21, 2011, 02:14:11 PM
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..to protect the network from trusted nodes which may be attempting malicious activity.

Damn and blast those untrustworthy trusted nodes!!  Grin

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November 21, 2011, 02:44:34 PM
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Can we still try to claim solidcoins that were deposited to mooncoin?  I'm finally getting around to thinking about that... heh  Am I too late?

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November 21, 2011, 04:05:33 PM
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Can we still try to claim solidcoins that were deposited to mooncoin?  I'm finally getting around to thinking about that... heh  Am I too late?

It really depends if you are on Coinhunter's good side or bad side.
RS Ahimoth has and will give you the Solidcoins. The money comes from the CPF fund.

Here is the thread
http://solidcointalk.org/topic/217-mooncoin-deposit-address-thread/page__hl__moonco.in__st__100

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November 21, 2011, 04:16:16 PM
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That reminds me - turned out the change RealSolid originally proposed to restrict the size of payments to the CPF from the trusted accounts doesn't actually work. He thought that there weren't any oversize payments in the block chain and that it'd be safe to reject any no matter how old, but there's actually one in Block 34384 and possibly more elsewhere. It's over by less than a SolidCoin, but that's enough to be a bit of a nuisance.

Edit: To be clear, it does stop the payments, it's just that it stops you from downloading the block chain as well. Apparently trusted nodes are running it already, and obviously they already have a copy of the blockchain so it doesn't affect them unless something else goes wrong.

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November 21, 2011, 11:56:47 PM
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what's to stop anyone adding the magic line to their conf file?  Presumably you have to ask sweetly for the information.
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November 22, 2011, 05:33:55 AM
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what's to stop anyone adding the magic line to their conf file?  Presumably you have to ask sweetly for the information.
1 million Solidcoins.

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November 22, 2011, 06:52:18 AM
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what's to stop anyone adding the magic line to their conf file?  Presumably you have to ask sweetly for the information.
1 million Solidcoins.
And then sell it to a 10 people for 200k and make a tidy profit?

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November 22, 2011, 07:01:29 AM
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what's to stop anyone adding the magic line to their conf file?  Presumably you have to ask sweetly for the information.
1 million Solidcoins.
And then sell it to a 10 people for 200k and make a tidy profit?
Well it's impossible for someone to buyout 1 million Solidcoins, without driving the price up, increasing the miner production, thus increasing supply and creating even more millionaires in the process. Right now there is under 2 mil "spendable" coins in existence. Trying to buy those 2 million coins would cause a market frenzy, increasing mining production, and increasing the inflationary rate of the coins.

I really don't think you along with many people here have a fundamental understanding of what Solidcoin aims to be, and why it's an awesome alt currency. There has been alot of stupid decisions made by RS from a marketing/public relations perspective. Me and other people in the community were very vocal about this, and many of the problems of "total RS control" are being fixed.

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November 22, 2011, 07:45:25 AM
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what's to stop anyone adding the magic line to their conf file?  Presumably you have to ask sweetly for the information.
1 million Solidcoins.
And then sell it to a 10 people for 200k and make a tidy profit?
Well it's impossible for someone to buyout 1 million Solidcoins, without driving the price up, increasing the miner production, thus increasing supply and creating even more millionaires in the process. Right now there is under 2 mil "spendable" coins in existence. Trying to buy those 2 million coins would cause a market frenzy, increasing mining production, and increasing the inflationary rate of the coins.

I really don't think you along with many people here have a fundamental understanding of what Solidcoin aims to be, and why it's an awesome alt currency. There has been alot of stupid decisions made by RS from a marketing/public relations perspective. Me and other people in the community were very vocal about this, and many of the problems of "total RS control" are being fixed.

Someone could pay RS for 1 million coins. Again.
I don't see how that would move the price up.

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November 22, 2011, 10:02:59 AM
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...if...

Just do it and buy 1M of SC and proof it, or your "guarantee" is useless Cheesy
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November 22, 2011, 10:46:57 AM
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So BitcoinExpress tells people he has 800,000 SolidCoins, that he had 400 AWS instances mining at SolidCoin 2 start and was 51% attacking it (before he knew the trusted node mechanism), that he has 2 million BTC, that he's a woman, that he can control google search engine results, that he's a programmer (but now he isn't anymore), that he knows Bill Gates, knew Steve Jobs and that he's a millionaire.

At what point does any reasonable person start to realize this guy likes to tell a fib or two? Smiley

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It has all the account info, how many transactions have gone into and from the CPF, and a variety of other information relating to your own SolidCoin addresses, created by one of many SolidCoin supporters. Everyone can see the trust accounts haven't been spent because the blockchain tells you, the code tells you how it can operate. It's not a secret, the source code is available for all to read and many already have.

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November 22, 2011, 11:45:08 AM
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CoinHunter, they hate you not because they think you may become a scammer and Solidcoin is "a personal wealth maker for RS". They don't have serious grounds to say that, maybe you're the most honest and altruistic man on Earth, who knows. They hate you for ideological reasons, because you betrayed the idea of absolutely uncontrollable cryptocurrency. So Solidcoin needs a new philosophy. It must be a step forward comparing to Bitcoin.
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November 22, 2011, 11:55:09 AM
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So BitcoinExpress tells people he has 800,000 SolidCoins, that he had 400 AWS instances mining at SolidCoin 2 start and was 51% attacking it (before he knew the trusted node mechanism), that he has 2 million BTC, that he's a woman, that he can control google search engine results, that he's a programmer (but now he isn't anymore), that he knows Bill Gates, knew Steve Jobs and that he's a millionaire.

At what point does any reasonable person start to realize this guy likes to tell a fib or two? Smiley

Check out :- http://www.solidtools.net/

It has all the account info, how many transactions have gone into and from the CPF, and a variety of other information relating to your own SolidCoin addresses, created by one of many SolidCoin supporters. Everyone can see the trust accounts haven't been spent because the blockchain tells you, the code tells you how it can operate. It's not a secret, the source code is available for all to read and many already have.


I can always tell when I hit a nerve with CH. Did you notice that in the quote by FlipPro, a Solidcoin Forum Mod and Staff member that you are called a PR mistake and it is established that a group of your inner circle isn't really pleased with your leadership and looking to ditch you?

FWIW I agree you haven't spent any of the trusted nodes funding....YET.

Maybe because it is worth next to nothing and the market depth looks like a puddle compared to the Bitcoin ocean. I noticed you simply said you haven't spent and didn't say cannot spend. No one outside your little cult believes you anyway on that.

Here's another put up or STFU moment for you. Just like the last three or four you will leave this one unanswered.

I wil put up 50,000 BTC against 2 Million of your SC 2.0 in trusted escrow. If I can't move more than 500,000 SC2 in the block explorer as well as sending to a trusted party, you can keep the 50,000 BTC. If I can, I get to keep the 2 Million supposedly unspendable SC2.

Put up or STFU. You have been called out.



There has been alot of stupid decisions made by RS from a marketing/public relations perspective. Me and other people in the community were very vocal about this, and many of the problems of "total RS control" are being fixed.

Even your own people are seeing you for what you are.

I don't see anything wrong with people criticizing me on things I've done, is that really a big deal to be criticized? Hopefully any reasonable person takes on whatever people are criticizing if it's worthwhile and grow from it. Other times the person criticizing isn't doing it from the most educated position and will grow themselves.

As much as I'd like to call you out on your "I have 800000 solidcoins" both you and I know I don't have 2 million SolidCoins to put in escrow. So how would it be done exactly? You expect me to have 80% of all SolidCoins created? Wouldn't that mean you don't have 800000 SolidCoins if that was the case? That's a big LOL up there with your "I'm going to kill SolidCoin off google" post. There's at least 50 people that have more SolidCoins than I do.

How about you just move the coins and show us, nothing is going to happen to your coins if you do have them, print this post if you're worried about it. Anyone that has legitimate coins will have no fears in SolidCoin, even if I or some other developer doesn't like you. It's a part of our constitution.

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November 22, 2011, 12:26:37 PM
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Wow a totally different tone from your usual arrogant bastard mode of operation. Your people are doing more than just disagreeing with you, they are naming you as the number one problem with Solidcoin.

I knew you wouldn't take on the challenge as you are well aware that someone, maybe me has a huge wallet of SC2. I'm telling you right now I am building up a wallet to a million SC2 and anticipate on being there in the next 2-3 months on the outside. At that time I will totally debunk the statement that anyone can be a trusted node.

After that I will use it to totally devastate the SC market for a long time. A million SC will provide a lot of market crashes LOL...

Firstly they are not "my people", we are all the same people working towards a common goal. There is a secession plan in place already for me. Unfortunately I don't have unlimited time to devote to every project that I'm interested in and I've already given 5 months of my life to SolidCoin.

I do know the largest SolidCoin holder, unfortunately it isn't you. Or I guess it could be you, provided you just move what you have to show us how rich you are.

But I'm guessing you never actually want to prove you are wealthy in SolidCoin, just imply it for some sort of social engineering reason. "OooOoo watchout or the spooky Bitcoinexpress will crash the market with his fake million coins OoOooo" . Smiley

Provided you run your trusted node in the interests of the chain you can take a place producing those blocks once you get a million coins, like anyone else can. However if you're implying you want to be malicious it's actually going to take you even longer to get the ~12 million coins needed to do that, and 50% of the network power. There is a reason people are investing in SolidCoin over other p2p currencies, it's actually much more secure. And as unlikely as it is that you do have 800000 coins, there is a reason you would have that if you're a smart businessman, you know what will be the leading online currency going forward.

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November 22, 2011, 12:34:23 PM
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... definitely NOT SC2 ...

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November 22, 2011, 12:40:34 PM
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I do know the largest SolidCoin holder, unfortunately it isn't you. Or I guess it could be you, provided you just move what you have to show us how rich you are.

But I'm guessing you never actually want to prove you are wealthy in SolidCoin, just imply it for some sort of social engineering reason. "OooOoo watchout or the spooky Bitcoinexpress will crash the market with his fake million coins OoOooo" . Smiley
Surely it'd be a huge tactical mistake for BitcoinEXpress to show her SolidCoin wealth prior to reaching well over a million coins if she is doing what she claims, because then you could take action to counter her? I generally reckon that it'd be safer for anyone intending to make themselves a trusted node in this way to present it as a fait accompli in order to deter the other trusted nodes from throwing obstacles in their way.

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November 22, 2011, 12:45:15 PM
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I do know the largest SolidCoin holder, unfortunately it isn't you. Or I guess it could be you, provided you just move what you have to show us how rich you are.

But I'm guessing you never actually want to prove you are wealthy in SolidCoin, just imply it for some sort of social engineering reason. "OooOoo watchout or the spooky Bitcoinexpress will crash the market with his fake million coins OoOooo" . Smiley
Surely it'd be a huge tactical mistake for BitcoinEXpress to show her SolidCoin wealth prior to reaching well over a million coins if she is doing what she claims, because then you could take action to counter her? I generally reckon that it'd be safer for anyone intending to make themselves a trusted node in this way to present it as a fait accompli in order to deter the other trusted nodes from throwing obstacles in their way.
... and there you see one of the MAIN reason's why anyone would be an absolute fool to risk any value in SC2 whatsoever.

There is a person there who can fuck with your money for whatever reason he feels like and has already done that in the past.

But the world is full of morons who believe all sorts of crap (take religion as the best example) and thus there will always be some sucker foolinsh enough to believe this scammer.

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November 22, 2011, 01:03:06 PM
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I knew you wouldn't take on the challenge as you are well aware that someone, maybe me has a huge wallet of SC2. I'm telling you right now I am building up a wallet to a million SC2 and anticipate on being there in the next 2-3 months on the outside. At that time I will totally debunk the statement that anyone can be a trusted node.

After that I will use it to totally devastate the SC market for a long time. A million SC will provide a lot of market crashes LOL...

We heared that multiple times in the past from you. But the promised SC2 crash or network death didn't happen. I think we all will be very disappointed (again) when your predictions predictions/promises won't happen  Cry
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November 22, 2011, 01:04:48 PM
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I do know the largest SolidCoin holder, unfortunately it isn't you. Or I guess it could be you, provided you just move what you have to show us how rich you are.

But I'm guessing you never actually want to prove you are wealthy in SolidCoin, just imply it for some sort of social engineering reason. "OooOoo watchout or the spooky Bitcoinexpress will crash the market with his fake million coins OoOooo" . Smiley
Surely it'd be a huge tactical mistake for BitcoinEXpress to show her SolidCoin wealth prior to reaching well over a million coins if she is doing what she claims, because then you could take action to counter her? I generally reckon that it'd be safer for anyone intending to make themselves a trusted node in this way to present it as a fait accompli in order to deter the other trusted nodes from throwing obstacles in their way.

Of course any excuse can be invented for why he doesn't need to "Show the SC". Anything to cover the truth which is he doesn't have them. You don't think he could upset more people by showing he has as much as he says, or getting his "coins taken off him" by the evil mastermind (ie me) ? Seriously?

But like I said, any attacker will soon need over 12 million (up from the current 1.2 million) to do anything malicious (only 2.6 million minted currently), and they will also need half of the mining power. Good luck to them.


Anyone can do a Bitcoinexpress if they want.

"I have 6 million Bitcoins I will put them in escrow, if you do <something impossible> you can have them"
"I know important people"
"I control google search engine results"
"You seriously don't know how powerful I am"
"I just PMd your friends on facebook, you got doxed bro"
"I'm so important I created this alter ego called Lanie Grace to troll fans of an unpopular TV series called Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles"
"I know SEO, it's like Karate for the internet"

What? You don't believe me? Booooo why not?

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