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[Little Mouse]

I can't access the clearnet from my country. Any particular reason why it's blocked in my/some countries?
Edit- Just have seen an explanation, I can't believe why my country is counted as a threat/high-risk country. Maybe your algorithm has some bugs which can't identify high-risk countries 



Anyway, I tried to visit the site with onion address and finally, I was able to access the site. While I was looking at the different features, I found the fee system a bit weird. Well, I'm not talking about the 1.5% minimum fee which is of course a thing. It's a bit high I think.

You have a Mixing Strength bar when we/users input different data. That's great. But why it changes only when we increase the fee but it doesn't change when we change the transfer delay, it barely changes (very little in terms of changes in fee). How a higher service fee is going to ensure a higher level of privacy while a higher delay in the transaction will provide a lower level of privacy? Is it an attempt to influence the users to pay a higher amount of fees? Or it's part of the mechanism which I'm missing? You can put an explanation right above the bar so people can understand how a higher fee is going to increase the privacy level.

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[Coinomize.biz]

Best VPNs for privacy: https://www.privacytools.io/privacy-vpn

NordVPN sells or gives I think data to authorities.

I noticed that [banned mixer] ranked up to Full Member, so is it time for you to wear an avatar of the company?

Oh thank you, we didn't realize it, changed

I can't access the clearnet from my country. Any particular reason why it's blocked in my/some countries?
Edit- Just have seen an explanation, I can't believe why my country is counted as a threat/high-risk country. Maybe your algorithm has some bugs which can't identify high-risk countries 

High risk means a variety of attacks such as DDOS. No Bugs
What is your country? Or you can send it to us via PM if you like.

Anyway, I tried to visit the site with onion address and finally, I was able to access the site. While I was looking at the different features, I found the fee system a bit weird. Well, I'm not talking about the 1.5% minimum fee which is of course a thing. It's a bit high I think.

The fees are in the lower normal range when you look at other mixers. Which exactly do you mean if not the minimum fee?

You have a Mixing Strength bar when we/users input different data. That's great. But why it changes only when we increase the fee but it doesn't change when we change the transfer delay, it barely changes (very little in terms of changes in fee). How a higher service fee is going to ensure a higher level of privacy while a higher delay in the transaction will provide a lower level of privacy? Is it an attempt to influence the users to pay a higher amount of fees? Or it's part of the mechanism which I'm missing? You can put an explanation right above the bar so people can understand how a higher fee is going to increase the privacy level.

The slider bar shows only an approximate result but the fees are decisive. Different nodes are used depending on the fees. We are working since 2 days on a new cool option, we will probably revise this with it. The time delay also increases the slider bar but not as much as the fees.

[Coinomize.biz]

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[LoyceV]

It would be stupid to store user data over a long period of time, as this could also incriminate us.

How would this incriminate you?

[PX-Z]

It would be stupid to store user data over a long period of time, as this could also incriminate us.

How would this incriminate you?

You know, mixers are expected not to log its user data for long period of time, doing so is considered as illicit, scam, not to be trusted, etc. although people ^{(depends on their ethics)} could consider mixers is illicit itself.

[Coinomize.biz]

It would be stupid to store user data over a long period of time, as this could also incriminate us.

How would this incriminate you?

It is well known that authorities do not like mixer services.
Let's assume, for example, that a mixer stores all user data from the beginning.
The government seizes its servers and arrests the owner.
All the stored data now serve as evidence.
The penalty would be higher if the owner had laundered $100 million than if the government had found only the last three days' worth of data containing, say, $20,000.

[Little Mouse]

What is your country? Or you can send it to us via PM if you like.

I'm from Bangladesh. It's not a secret so I can share it publicly. However, I tried clearnet with VPN too and the result was also the same. I couldn't visit the site.

The time delay also increases the slider bar but not as much as the fees.

Yeah but as the way you show it, it seems higher fee = higher degree of privacy while higher delay in transaction doesn't provide that level of privacy. It's good to know you are working on a cool option.

The penalty would be higher if the owner had laundered $100 million than if the government had found only the last three days' worth of data containing, say, $20,000.

Will they count all the txs as laundered? Or they will only take care of txs from criminals? This has always been my interest because a lot of people uses mixer just to make sure no one can track their financial activities.

[Coinomize.biz]

What is your country? Or you can send it to us via PM if you like.

I'm from Bangladesh. It's not a secret so I can share it publicly. However, I tried clearnet with VPN too and the result was also the same. I couldn't visit the site.

But in VPN not Bangladesh as a country right?

Yeah but as the way you show it, it seems higher fee = higher degree of privacy while higher delay in transaction doesn't provide that level of privacy. It's good to know you are working on a cool option.

Yeah sure, both are factored in.

Will they count all the txs as laundered? Or they will only take care of txs from criminals? This has always been my interest because a lot of people uses mixer just to make sure no one can track their financial activities.

This was just one example.
According to statistics, Bitcoin mixers are only used for illegal transactions in about 5% - 10% of cases.
The government does not like them because they do not earn anything from them. And they want to control everything and everyone.
They can only check what is available. Due to lack of time probably only high sums.
They certainly use blockchain analytics companies to compare data. And probably also read everything here in the forum to collect info

[LeGaulois]

Will they count all the txs as laundered? Or they will only take care of txs from criminals? This has always been my interest because a lot of people uses mixer just to make sure no one can track their financial activities.

Nah... And I can give you an exemple with Bestmixer. They didn't considered every TXs laundered but they have done it with a criminal who used their service. (story: the guy was arrested with gold, luxury watches, BTC wallet, cash,...)

If you're not suspected of something, they won't track you.
And they were able to do it with bestmixer....since they had acess to the server during many months... (IPs, logs, chats,...)

They certainly use blockchain analytics companies to compare data. And probably also read everything here in the forum to collect info

I confirm

[LoyceV]

It is well known that authorities do not like mixer services.
Let's assume, for example, that a mixer stores all user data from the beginning.
The government seizes its servers and arrests the owner.
All the stored data now serve as evidence.
The penalty would be higher if the owner had laundered $100 million than if the government had found only the last three days' worth of data containing, say, $20,000.

Interesting choice of words, why would you say "laundered" instead of "obfuscated"?

One could also argue the other way: "the penalty could be lower if the owner cooperates and provides accurate details on all processed transactions, thereby effectively nullifying the obfuscation". One way or another, I wouldn't use this as an argument to convince users there is no logging.

[Coinomize.biz]

I'm from Bangladesh. It's not a secret so I can share it publicly. However, I tried clearnet with VPN too and the result was also the same. I couldn't visit the site.

Bangladesh can be used now.

Will they count all the txs as laundered? Or they will only take care of txs from criminals? This has always been my interest because a lot of people uses mixer just to make sure no one can track their financial activities.

Nah... And I can give you an exemple with Bestmixer. They didn't considered every TXs laundered but they have done it with a criminal who used their service. (story: the guy was arrested with gold, luxury watches, BTC wallet, cash,...)

If you're not suspected of something, they won't track you.
And they were able to do it with bestmixer....since they had acess to the server during many months... (IPs, logs, chats,...)

They certainly use blockchain analytics companies to compare data. And probably also read everything here in the forum to collect info

I confirm

Probably yes, thanks for your explanation.

It is well known that authorities do not like mixer services.
Let's assume, for example, that a mixer stores all user data from the beginning.
The government seizes its servers and arrests the owner.
All the stored data now serve as evidence.
The penalty would be higher if the owner had laundered $100 million than if the government had found only the last three days' worth of data containing, say, $20,000.

Interesting choice of words, why would you say "laundered" instead of "obfuscated"?

In the example, I was talking about the government  They see it as laundering money, we don't. For us, privacy is a human right and neither illegal nor anything else.

One could also argue the other way: "the penalty could be lower if the owner cooperates and provides accurate details on all processed transactions, thereby effectively nullifying the obfuscation". One way or another, I wouldn't use this as an argument to convince users there is no logging.

Maybe.
We did not use it as a direct argument. We wrote: "It would be stupid to store user data over a long period of time, as this could also incriminate us." This is a statement.

[xLays]

You guys have been in the service since 2019. Do you have any plans to change your website's domain? I'm not gonna lie; I'm concerned that the current one might make people think it's a scam in my own opinion (or because it's  not common domain e.g com, net, io). What do you think about changing it to make your website seem more like trustworthy?

[tbct_mt2]

You guys have been in the service since 2019. Do you have any plans to change your website's domain? I'm not gonna lie; I'm concerned that the current one might make people think it's a scam in my own opinion (or because it's  not common domain e.g com, net, io). What do you think about changing it to make your website seem more like trustworthy?

Official domains are below.

It does not make sense to spend millions of dollar to buy a domain, if [banned mixer]m has such expensive value. A domain can be either dot com, net, io but it does not mean that domain name is an official one of a service.

A famous scam site is bitcoin.com that is owned by Roger Ver and Bitcoin Cash team. It does not represent the unique Bitcoin. If you want to get information and download Bitcoin Core wallet, you must go to either
https://bitcoin.org/ or https://bitcoincore.org/

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[Coinomize.biz]

You guys have been in the service since 2019. Do you have any plans to change your website's domain? I'm not gonna lie; I'm concerned that the current one might make people think it's a scam in my own opinion (or because it's  not common domain e.g com, net, io). What do you think about changing it to make your website seem more like trustworthy?

In the mixer area, secure and anonymous domains are the most important. The normal standard ICANN domains can be taken offline more easily.
That is why .com, .net etc domains are mostly not used in this area.

[tbct_mt2]

In the mixer area, secure and anonymous domains are the most important. The normal standard ICANN domains can be taken offline more easily.
That is why .com, .net etc domains are mostly not used in this area.

In addition, for mixer users, Tor domain is most recommended by any mixing service.

The clearnet domain is not too important for mixing service but the Tor Onion domain is.

[banned mixer] has its onion domain is

Our Tor Domain (Recommend to use):

New V3: http://[banned mixer]
Old one: http://coinomthajerbtq7.onion

[Coinomize.biz]

In the mixer area, secure and anonymous domains are the most important. The normal standard ICANN domains can be taken offline more easily.
That is why .com, .net etc domains are mostly not used in this area.

In addition, for mixer users, Tor domain is most recommended by any mixing service.

The clearnet domain is not too important for mixing service but the Tor Onion domain is.

[banned mixer] has its onion domain is

Our Tor Domain (Recommend to use):

New V3: http://[banned mixer]
Old one: http://coinomthajerbtq7.onion

Yes, you are right. To achieve a higher anonymity you should use the Onion URL of a mixer

[Eternad]

@[banned mixer], I recently experienced an error when visiting all the clearnet website available. It shows that my IP is related to bad IP so it was blocked. I use coinomize before without this issue but with differing device. I'm planning to mix my tokens that came from my paypal service payment.

The website is showing when I visit the other clearnet website then press back but it was blocked again once I click the refresh button. Is the error on your side or from my IP?

Here's how it looks like:

[Coinomize.biz]

@[banned mixer], I recently experienced an error when visiting all the clearnet website available. It shows that my IP is related to bad IP so it was blocked. I use coinomize before without this issue but with differing device. I'm planning to mix my tokens that came from my paypal service payment.

The website is showing when I visit the other clearnet website then press back but it was blocked again once I click the refresh button. Is the error on your side or from my IP?

Here's how it looks like:

This message usually appears when you use a VPN and the IP is blacklisted due to too much spam, for example, and does not have to be your fault.
Just change your IP if possible or use our Onion Domain via the Tor Browser.

[taufik123]

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Here's how it looks like:

I also experienced the same thing a few weeks ago, but now it's normal.
It may also depend on what provider you are using, because some internet providers that I use always appear IP blocked.

But now it doesn't appear any more and runs normally.
As Coinomize suggests, use Domain Onion via Tor Browser, it will be more secure than using a free VPN or another way can also change to Google DNS Cloud Flare 1.1.1.1

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Just change your IP if possible or use our Onion Domain via the Tor Browser.

[joniboini]

As Coinomize suggests, use Domain Onion via Tor Browser, it will be more secure than using a free VPN or another way can also change to Google DNS 1.1.1.1

If I'm not wrong, 1.1.1.1 is a Cloudflare product and not a Google product. You might be referring to 8.8.8.8 instead. It also doesn't solve the problem of IP blocking since it just encrypts your DNS request afaik.