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May 31, 2020, 08:59:52 AM
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Would there be a high chance of match fixing due to no crowd? Just a thought.

Match fixing chances does get increased or decreased due to crowd. Even if people do not watch the match live in person, but they can watch it live on TV or later recordings on you tube, so there is not much difference.

Forget about the match fixing, it's unlikely to happen as no team would want to lose especially if we are talking of a major games here.
Though there are few people in the arena, but they will make sure the game is played live and stream live, and match fixing IMO is just a theory from bettors.

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May 31, 2020, 09:17:14 AM
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As expected this will be an empty arena for fans out there, they'll surely provide extreme security measures over this kind of event. Since Nevada state was one of the state that has less cases of the virus, my hunch tells me this will really gonna push through. Bettors? For sure they'll love it.

I think you haven't made your research. Nevada already has 7,696 confirmed cases and already 392 deaths.


And i don't think it is a good idea to force nor make an event with that current cases. Would you take the risk just to earn money and enjoy watching boxing matches? Also, even there would be security nor they maximizes preventive measures, the virus is an unseen enemy, there's no doubt that some of attendees would be asymptotic.

I am hoping and confident at the same time that this will be a successful event.
This is not the first fight, in other countries, they manage to host a successful boxing fight with crowd, this fight does not have a crowd.

What makes a boxing event earn money is because of the tickets of the crowd and as well as their in-game bets. Only minimal events supports online betting nor has an online betting platform, some are just dependent on the games yet has no connection with boxing events per se.

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May 31, 2020, 09:18:18 AM
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Would there be a high chance of match fixing due to no crowd? Just a thought.

No, match fixing is only based on the individual boxer, if boxer A and boxer B agrees to follow the script then that is a complete match fixing, also it's possible that boxer B will intentionally give the fight to boxer A as he is betting on himself to lose, that is possible every scenario.

Boxing in general is viewed as a corrupt sports for some people, so fix matching is happening, and some would not know though they are involved in the fight, sometimes its the judges who not truly score and favor a certain boxer, so that is still match fixing.

Anyway if you are a gambler,  just make sure you bet on the right side.

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May 31, 2020, 09:19:55 AM
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Would there be a high chance of match fixing due to no crowd? Just a thought.

Match fixing chances does get increased or decreased due to crowd. Even if people do not watch the match live in person, but they can watch it live on TV or later recordings on you tube, so there is not much difference.

Anything if this sort of things happens in any sport let it be will get reported irrespective of the crowd presence or not. Nowadays we have camera and will be telecasted on various platforms so anyone will get caught of wrongdoing if so tried to do it. And not many would like to take that risk and spoil their reputation for the rest of their life.


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May 31, 2020, 09:36:11 AM
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What makes a boxing event earn money is because of the tickets of the crowd and as well as their in-game bets. Only minimal events supports online betting nor has an online betting platform, some are just dependent on the games yet has no connection with boxing events per se.


They have to adjust now, they need to earn in PPV subscription since crowd is not possible due to the pandemic.
About betting, I think that is separate from gambling, the organizers does not make money from that, otherwise they will be accuse of fixing games.

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May 31, 2020, 10:01:02 AM
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As expected this will be an empty arena for fans out there, they'll surely provide extreme security measures over this kind of event. Since Nevada state was one of the state that has less cases of the virus, my hunch tells me this will really gonna push through. Bettors? For sure they'll love it.

I think you haven't made your research. Nevada already has 7,696 confirmed cases and already 392 deaths.


And i don't think it is a good idea to force nor make an event with that current cases. Would you take the risk just to earn money and enjoy watching boxing matches? Also, even there would be security nor they maximizes preventive measures, the virus is an unseen enemy, there's no doubt that some of attendees would be asymptotic.

I did and at that time the case hasn't blown up like that and by this time it even gets more to 8.5k cases and 400+ deaths they are more of a neutral unlike to other states. It isn't a forced event it will still on players and committee decision and if you haven't read the OP try to read it again and Arum stated there that they'll launch it in a secure and safer way. I think they know such risks and if they will risk the players as well as some fans (if they allow it) that will for sure not nice to them hosting such an event. It's "asymptomatic" at least research for that one too, if they don't allow fans as my reply saying "this will be an empty arena for fans out there" then I think that minimizes the risks.
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May 31, 2020, 10:13:45 AM
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Would there be a high chance of match fixing due to no crowd? Just a thought.

Match fixing chances does get increased or decreased due to crowd. Even if people do not watch the match live in person, but they can watch it live on TV or later recordings on you tube, so there is not much difference.

Forget about the match fixing, it's unlikely to happen as no team would want to lose especially if we are talking of a major games here.
Though there are few people in the arena, but they will make sure the game is played live and stream live, and match fixing IMO is just a theory from bettors.

Match fixing does exists and the matches which are of high profile , there are more chances of bigger match fixing. I am not saying that match fixing occurs in all high profile matches but it does happen in few of them.

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May 31, 2020, 11:31:42 AM
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Would there be a high chance of match fixing due to no crowd? Just a thought.

Match fixing chances does get increased or decreased due to crowd. Even if people do not watch the match live in person, but they can watch it live on TV or later recordings on you tube, so there is not much difference.

I agree, there were rumours before, but it was long time ago and I doubt that there are prevalent today, specially high profile fights. It's really hard to fix it as there are huge money involved and I doubt that everyone involved are to be willing participants because sooner or later it will come up in public and it will affect them negatively as boxers.

And boxing promoters are eager to see the boxing go to make money here, so it doesn't make sense to think about fixing the match with or without the crowd.
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May 31, 2020, 11:50:45 AM
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This could happen in june. The other games is going to happen to or going to resume the game unless the country still fighting the pandemic. I have check on a site that some country still have pandemic problems and the infected people still rising. It's not a good idea if they resume a game if still having problem with the crisis.
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May 31, 2020, 11:56:18 AM
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This could happen in june. The other games is going to happen to or going to resume the game unless the country still fighting the pandemic. I have check on a site that some country still have pandemic problems and the infected people still rising. It's not a good idea if they resume a game if still having problem with the crisis.

They have evaluated the situation already, and they are aware that the cases is still high in the area, but then the fight was approved.
It was posted 1 page back, as you can read :

Nevada Commission Approves Top Rank Dates For June 9 & June 11 In Las Vegas

so let's hope that it's going to be a success, the cases will continue to rise but if they will not do this, they won't be able to contribute on the recovery of the economy of United States.

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May 31, 2020, 09:18:36 PM
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Though not big names but still it's good to see fights being stage on this time of a pandemic. Hope all would turn out fine so we can see boxing and other sports slowly going back.

https://www.boxingscene.com/nevada-commission-approves-top-rank-dates-june-9-june-11-las-vegas--149135

I think the card is good in my opinion.

Stevenson vs Caraballo is a good non-title fight. There's a lot of hype around Stevenson as he is an Olympian. And the we have Jessie Magdaleno in the main card vs Yenifel Vicente. Magdaleno beat our own Nonito Donaire by UD in 2016. It was a good fight but Magdaleno is too much for Nonito back then.

Anyway, if you have information about Inoue vs Casimero fight, please update in this thread, I hope that fight will be scheduled this next month too.

Yes, for sure I will update this thread if I found some information about the Inoue vs Casimero, so far though there's nothing that I can report. Probably both are busy on their training in preparation of their big fight. And once we see boxing this June, it will probably a signal that they could be next in the following months.

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June 01, 2020, 02:11:12 AM
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Of course, any fight that resumes from now on is good. Because there is a good sign that we can live with the coronavirus and the economy can gradually generate some profit for the various sectors.
Boxing has shown courage and strength in this crisis, at first I saw it a bit challenging but now I see that it was a correct decision.

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June 01, 2020, 10:41:14 AM
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Though not big names but still it's good to see fights being stage on this time of a pandemic. Hope all would turn out fine so we can see boxing and other sports slowly going back.

https://www.boxingscene.com/nevada-commission-approves-top-rank-dates-june-9-june-11-las-vegas--149135

I think the card is good in my opinion.

Stevenson vs Caraballo is a good non-title fight. There's a lot of hype around Stevenson as he is an Olympian. And the we have Jessie Magdaleno in the main card vs Yenifel Vicente. Magdaleno beat our own Nonito Donaire by UD in 2016. It was a good fight but Magdaleno is too much for Nonito back then.

I also think that it's a good card too because of Jessie Magadaleno, the one who beat our own Nonita Donaire  Smiley. Some of us here are expecting championship fights but i don't think that those could happen very soon. Championship fights are dependent on the outcome of this pilot episode.

Did someone knows what sportsbook have already odds for these fights? No odds yet on my favorite online bookies. 

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June 01, 2020, 11:05:24 AM
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Though not big names but still it's good to see fights being stage on this time of a pandemic. Hope all would turn out fine so we can see boxing and other sports slowly going back.

https://www.boxingscene.com/nevada-commission-approves-top-rank-dates-june-9-june-11-las-vegas--149135

I think the card is good in my opinion.

Stevenson vs Caraballo is a good non-title fight. There's a lot of hype around Stevenson as he is an Olympian. And the we have Jessie Magdaleno in the main card vs Yenifel Vicente. Magdaleno beat our own Nonito Donaire by UD in 2016. It was a good fight but Magdaleno is too much for Nonito back then.

I also think that it's a good card too because of Jessie Magadaleno, the one who beat our own Nonita Donaire  Smiley. Some of us here are expecting championship fights but i don't think that those could happen very soon. Championship fights are dependent on the outcome of this pilot episode.

Did someone knows what sportsbook have already odds for these fights? No odds yet on my favorite online bookies. 

It's not yet about on my sportsbook too, but I search the odds for the main event.


source : https://www.boxingscene.com/nevada-commission-approves-top-rank-dates-june-9-june-11-las-vegas--149135


As we can see, he is heavily favored, so probably this is going to be an easy fight for Magdalono, I'm not gonna bet on him with the 1/20 odds.

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June 01, 2020, 09:53:26 PM
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This month of June would be an exciting one for Filipino fight fans as Mike Plania will slug it out with Joshua Greer Jr. in a 10 round fight, 120 pounds catchweight on June 17, 2020 MGM Grand, Las Vegas. Joshua Greer's name floated last month as a substitute for Inoue to fight Casimero but i guess it's scrap since Bob Arum expecting the fight between Casimero and Inoue would push through this July.





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June 01, 2020, 10:32:54 PM
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This month of June would be an exciting one for Filipino fight fans as Mike Plania will slug it out with Joshua Greer Jr. in a 10 round fight, 120 pounds catchweight on June 17, 2020 MGM Grand, Las Vegas. Joshua Greer's name floated last month as a substitute for Inoue to fight Casimero but i guess it's scrap since Bob Arum expecting the fight between Casimero and Inoue would push through this July.

Nice to see it was included on the table.

Seeing the list of upcoming matches in the first-ever no audience match, some names involved are highly familiar in the world of boxing. That's a good start for a comeback and not just that, boxing matches will be regular. For upper weight class, did they already announced some boxers that will compete here aside from those got delayed?

"You've got to make sure all the procedures are safe and so forth. Hopefully, what we're doing will serve as a template for other promoters to put on shows."

Nice encouragement by Arum to other promoters.

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June 01, 2020, 10:46:36 PM
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As expected this will be an empty arena for fans out there, they'll surely provide extreme security measures over this kind of event. Since Nevada state was one of the state that has less cases of the virus, my hunch tells me this will really gonna push through. Bettors? For sure they'll love it.

I think you haven't made your research. Nevada already has 7,696 confirmed cases and already 392 deaths.


And i don't think it is a good idea to force nor make an event with that current cases. Would you take the risk just to earn money and enjoy watching boxing matches? Also, even there would be security nor they maximizes preventive measures, the virus is an unseen enemy, there's no doubt that some of attendees would be asymptotic.

I did and at that time the case hasn't blown up like that and by this time it even gets more to 8.5k cases and 400+ deaths they are more of a neutral unlike to other states. It isn't a forced event it will still on players and committee decision and if you haven't read the OP try to read it again and Arum stated there that they'll launch it in a secure and safer way. I think they know such risks and if they will risk the players as well as some fans (if they allow it) that will for sure not nice to them hosting such an event. It's "asymptomatic" at least research for that one too, if they don't allow fans as my reply saying "this will be an empty arena for fans out there" then I think that minimizes the risks.

Arum is going to make history. If he still insists this boxing match push thru, there could be more deaths to come. Unlike other countries, its the US that isn't panicking about the numbers. 300K lives wasted while the death in Asian countries didn't rocket that high the fact that it started here. The riots might make it worse.

There were certain cases that the symptoms of Covid cases don't show to people with good lungs and if these people attend this gathering, they will spread the virus.


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June 01, 2020, 11:57:13 PM
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As expected this will be an empty arena for fans out there, they'll surely provide extreme security measures over this kind of event. Since Nevada state was one of the state that has less cases of the virus, my hunch tells me this will really gonna push through. Bettors? For sure they'll love it.

I think you haven't made your research. Nevada already has 7,696 confirmed cases and already 392 deaths.


And i don't think it is a good idea to force nor make an event with that current cases. Would you take the risk just to earn money and enjoy watching boxing matches? Also, even there would be security nor they maximizes preventive measures, the virus is an unseen enemy, there's no doubt that some of attendees would be asymptotic.

I did and at that time the case hasn't blown up like that and by this time it even gets more to 8.5k cases and 400+ deaths they are more of a neutral unlike to other states. It isn't a forced event it will still on players and committee decision and if you haven't read the OP try to read it again and Arum stated there that they'll launch it in a secure and safer way. I think they know such risks and if they will risk the players as well as some fans (if they allow it) that will for sure not nice to them hosting such an event. It's "asymptomatic" at least research for that one too, if they don't allow fans as my reply saying "this will be an empty arena for fans out there" then I think that minimizes the risks.

Arum is going to make history. If he still insists this boxing match push thru, there could be more deaths to come. Unlike other countries, its the US that isn't panicking about the numbers. 300K lives wasted while the death in Asian countries didn't rocket that high the fact that it started here. The riots might make it worse.

There were certain cases that the symptoms of Covid cases don't show to people with good lungs and if these people attend this gathering, they will spread the virus.



That's too much of a statement, I don't think this boxing event will be approve if the government sees it will risk the lives of the people.
The boxing match that Arum is promoting is a no crowd boxing, but even if there is a crowd the social distancing and strict measures will certainly be strictly implemented,  businessman would really want to make money,  but in the end it's still the government who will decide if they will approve it or not, therefore the blame is on the government if the outcome of the event would result to the increase of infections to people.

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June 02, 2020, 12:27:00 AM
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That's too much of a statement, I don't think this boxing event will be approve if the government sees it will risk the lives of the people.
The boxing match that Arum is promoting is a no crowd boxing, but even if there is a crowd the social distancing and strict measures will certainly be strictly implemented,  businessman would really want to make money,  but in the end it's still the government who will decide if they will approve it or not, therefore the blame is on the government if the outcome of the event would result to the increase of infections to people.

I agree. The event is surely strictly well-organized and health measures are on top of the concern. Top Rank Promotions is a big company and they are not just pushing into something risky without a proper plan. They spend tons of money on this and they will just do a plan without considering all the risks? That's impossible. Their plans are approved by the health department. I will not include US Government here as Trump, even during the peak of pandemic virus on their country, is always open for any business to come back lol.

Let's just hope that their protocols will be follow properly and finger-cross, will not result into another case of Covid-19 infection. I do believe that this event will be successfully done.

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June 02, 2020, 02:24:57 AM
 #120

If this new normal will strictly be implemented even Bob Arum can't take that away. Though they can have the event but to expect that a few people would come as they care about their health as well. Maybe Bob will think that he is also risking the lives of others and not just only money matters.
Well, I don't know if people are hungry for gambling because they are already exposed to online gambling these days.

This is one thing I could say, even Boxing betting is open live, but I'd rather not to visit not unless we are guaranteed safe from the virus. Better preferred to watch online and put bets on there.



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