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May 20, 2020, 08:42:49 AM
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Why the whales want to trade as anonymous?

If they are trading by any payment method ,that means their name are known by the payment services.

Q1: If they are trading by crypto like BTC to ETH , how to make the transcation credible?

Q2:  If they trade ETH/BTC as a large amount and the whales still keeping anonymous, how do they finish this transcation?
In fact, they don't need to buy ETH or BTC on any intermediate exchange. they all have bitcoin miners, they will use BTC there to trade and manipulate the crypto market. All their activities are anonymous and they won't let anyone know their identity. This is a market with strong manipulation and also the most anonymous billionaires. Cheesy
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May 20, 2020, 09:24:06 AM
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Why the whales want to trade as anonymous?
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In the cryptocurrency market, everyone wants to remain anonymous. Even those who have a very small turnover in trading do not want to disclose confidential information about themselves and do not pass verification on the exchange. Now imagine what these MM's have balances that can guide the market in any direction. That's why they don't want to be linked to their balance sheets.

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May 20, 2020, 09:42:11 AM
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In my opinion not only whales who want to trade as anonymous, but we all want to trade as anonymous. Because of personal data very important
and not for dissemination. Especially whales that have cryptocurrency in large numbers, would be very dangerous if not anonymous, hackers will
target whales if the data is opened to the public. Then to trade BTC to ETH so that the transactions are credible, must look for credible exchanges
as well as a trading place. Whales trading with crypto in large numbers, they must convert crypto to fiat to finish the transaction.

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May 20, 2020, 10:32:28 AM
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Why the whales want to trade as anonymous?
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In the cryptocurrency market, everyone wants to remain anonymous. Even those who have a very small turnover in trading do not want to disclose confidential information about themselves and do not pass verification on the exchange. Now imagine what these MM's have balances that can guide the market in any direction. That's why they don't want to be linked to their balance sheets.
Actually i don't find reason why need to be specific in whales when all of us(or maybe almost all) wanted to  remain anonymous so where did he get the idea asking this since it is obviously answered around the forum.

and also i believe that Yeah we can be not having true anonymity but at least respect our desires of being hidden unless there are few who will make our identity broadcast in what reason?i don't know but still i will choose tp be anonymous .

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May 20, 2020, 02:39:15 PM
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I live in Ukraine and my government has decided not to prohibit any activity related to cryptocurrency. every citizen can invest in cryptocurrency, buy or trade cryptocurrency. but at the same time, transactions that will exceed $ 1,500 will require verification and will therefore need to be taxed. Based on this, I believe that traders who work in the cryptocurrency market in my country, as well as in other countries, try to avoid the excessive attention of certain state structures and avoid taxation, as their daily cash flow exceeds the established government standards. it is possible that precisely because of this their desire to be anonymous is so strong.

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May 20, 2020, 03:08:08 PM
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I think the only way to trade anonymous is to use a descentralized exchange . If you trade high volume on centralised exchanges it could be possible to provide a KYC and also block/lose your funds . Take care

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May 20, 2020, 03:14:20 PM
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How do we trade as anonymous when we trading with a large amount?
You can't get rid of "spies" in Whale - alert. One of the signal channels in Telegram is watched by more than hundred thousand people. Your actions will be monitored if your transaction is greater than $ 1 million.
If you are trading on exchanges then you need to do KYC. If you do not conduct KYC and trade in large quantities, the exchange team will suspect you are a hacker and may freeze your account at any time.

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May 20, 2020, 04:56:18 PM
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How do we trade as anonymous when we trading with a large amount?

I don't want to trade with a large amount with someone that I don't know because that will be too risky for me. It is better that I do that with a small amount to try the services so then I can start another transaction with the people who I can trust. But if you want to trade as anonymous, I think you can try with OTC, but I am not yet trying the services because I still use the exchange and some of my friends who always help me if I want to buy bitcoin.

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May 20, 2020, 05:34:42 PM
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There are way too many bots that could help anyone with these kinds of problems. I know it is not healthy and its quite risky but they are out there. How? You could basically make bots that will trade from thousands of accounts to thousands of wallets, that way you can even trade on binance without getting too much attention.

All you have to do is 500 accounts, all maxing out 2 bitcoin without KYC, and an automatic bot that would basically all buy bitcoin or sell bitcoin and you would be doing it anonymously. Of course I am not saying it will work, there are risks involved because if you get caught you could be banned and that is a ton of money to lose in that case. But there are methods, plus if we are talking about non-whales, it is even more simple right now.
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May 20, 2020, 05:55:03 PM
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How do we trade as anonymous when we trading with a large amount?

You can trade on exchange where they don't ask kyc and use more account for the limit amount. For example if u wanna trade 10 BTC and the limit for each account is 2 BTC u need 5 account for do it. You can also use Decentralizate exchange for do it

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May 20, 2020, 07:23:02 PM
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Why the whales want to trade as anonymous?
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In the cryptocurrency market, everyone wants to remain anonymous. Even those who have a very small turnover in trading do not want to disclose confidential information about themselves and do not pass verification on the exchange. Now imagine what these MM's have balances that can guide the market in any direction. That's why they don't want to be linked to their balance sheets.
Actually i don't find reason why need to be specific in whales when all of us(or maybe almost all) wanted to  remain anonymous so where did he get the idea asking this since it is obviously answered around the forum.

and also i believe that Yeah we can be not having true anonymity but at least respect our desires of being hidden unless there are few who will make our identity broadcast in what reason?i don't know but still i will choose tp be anonymous .

When we do talk about Anonymity then it would particular cover up;

Personal Info
Taxation matters
Money laundering
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People here on this market do really prioritize anonymity thats why it become popular but due to centralization on most exchangers excluding dex ones then that
primary motive is slowly turning to the contrary path.Asking on how whales do make those big transactions? Of course they do comply out on whats asked.

DEX is there but it do still lack of liquidity and also we cant cash out or make transactions towards fiat thats why we dont have any choice to take but to trade
on those centralized platforms.Aside from p2p tx's then this would be the closest way on how to deal up with crypto to fiat or fiat to crypto.

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May 20, 2020, 08:48:22 PM
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How do we trade as anonymous when we trading with a large amount?
You can use decentralized exchange to trade completely anonymous but converting fiat into crypto or vice versa can be a hard task to do with complete anonymous, you can use p2p exchange but still that trader knows your payment details and can track your identity.
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May 20, 2020, 09:18:34 PM
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The best is to choose and exchange that does not require KYC to trade regardless the amount either small or big

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May 21, 2020, 12:06:26 AM
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How do we trade as anonymous when we trading with a large amount?
You can't get rid of "spies" in Whale - alert. One of the signal channels in Telegram is watched by more than hundred thousand people. Your actions will be monitored if your transaction is greater than $ 1 million.
If you are trading on exchanges then you need to do KYC. If you do not conduct KYC and trade in large quantities, the exchange team will suspect you are a hacker and may freeze your account at any time.

I think peopel are care about the msg about exchange transcation from Whale-alert

If you see the msg shows the transcation between 2 unkown addresses, you won't get much from this alert msg
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May 21, 2020, 04:24:59 PM
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How do we trade as anonymous when we trading with a large amount?
You can use decentralized exchange to trade completely anonymous but converting fiat into crypto or vice versa can be a hard task to do with complete anonymous, you can use p2p exchange but still that trader knows your payment details and can track your identity.
Today, many cryptocurrency exchanges are forced to follow the rules that are set by regulators to legalize their business. Nevertheless, on each exchange there is a minimum amount of funds that a trader has the right to withdraw from his account, while he does not require verification. there are a lot of bir on the cryptocurrency market, among which you can make a choice where KYC is optional. At least I use Binance and passport data I still have not provided. And you are right that this does not apply to cryptocurrency cashing.
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May 21, 2020, 04:53:04 PM
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How do we trade as anonymous when we trading with a large amount?
Well, actually there are too many ways if you are choosing a decentralized exchange, but most commonly bitcoin transactions can be traceable.
One of the reasons why most of us prefer to trade anonymously is because of security nowadays hackers are too aggressive that they will even steal all your personal information, and use it for their own goods especially if you are one of the whales then tons of bitcoins can be stolen to you if they can have access to your personal information and your account. Perhaps you want to know how we can trade anonymously is by your username and the rest of the transaction may no longer be 100% anonymous especially when you do exchanges like cashing your bitcoin. Indeed, --KYC's are now being imposed on any form of trading and as soon as it will be implemented in cryptocurrency then much likely we cannot do trading anonymously anymore.









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May 21, 2020, 05:17:41 PM
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I think the only way to trade anonymous is to use a descentralized exchange . If you trade high volume on centralised exchanges it could be possible to provide a KYC and also block/lose your funds . Take care

For high trades their would-be KYC required so does binance for that matter also require it. Only if you trade is limited or want to withdraw less amount you do not have to go with KYC. Also, if country has legally approved it and the exchange is trustworthy then one even go for KYC in such cases.

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May 21, 2020, 06:47:12 PM
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But to be honest, being completely anonymous is quite hard these, Exchanges are now imposing KYC for transactions involving amounts as little as $10,000 so, there is no way of avoiding getting verified if one wants to trade.
For sure, if they started to make huge transaction especially in some exchanges, they already know that their identity could be known and can put to risk. But what if some whales are hiding behind some another person? Could this possible? Like if you are whale and want to hide your identity, you will hire some other people to use their identity or create some random or fake identity just to hide yours.

maybe it can all happen, by using other people's identities and in various ways maybe they will use as much as possible so that their identities are not known, but every person will experience mistakes and negligence, and it will certainly endanger himself for sure to find out his identity. and will produce them in an insecure zone.

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How do we trade as anonymous when we trading with a large amount?

 Simple. It's for SECURITY.
 Everyone wanted to hide identity when trading large amount bitcoin. Safety is more important than being caught by those who have bad intentions. We do not know the thinking of other, they could be an spy to know your real identity. Afterall, bitcoin has a value now.
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How do we trade as anonymous when we trading with a large amount?
There could be multiple other methods but usually whales are making partnership with exchange operators to avoid/solve any possible future problems well in advance. Some exchanges may notice you when you trade drastically increased volume. So, you may demand them for a specialized services for some fee. Out of competition like not making you move to another exchange, I believe almost all exchanges will agree to provide a specialized services.

I have seen emails from my local exchanges for asking to contact them for selling big amount of bitcoins. They stated like do not sell on market but notifying to them for any big orders. Officially they do send mails on this.

Personally I do handle with larger amount of coins by having trading on multiple exchanges (which also provides me best prices comparatively) and sometimes I do make use of my friends' accounts for selling large volume of coins when I desperately needed to catch some price ranges.

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